S11.E05: The Divided States Of Erika

[WhatAmIWatching]

2 minutes ago, dmeets said:

I don't understand anything about Sutton, but wouldn't the price of a car at a dealership need to be known? When she goes grocery shopping does she avert her eyes at the price tags and demand the cashier not say the total? Does she need her roller whenever The Price is Right comes on TV?

It's the old "Honey, if you have to ask, you can't afford it" stuff. 

I'm pretty sure Sutton never does her own grocery shopping. Probs because she can't force them to close down and let only her wander the isles. 😂 (Though I'd really like to see it happen. I'm imagining her using her face roller and weird pageant wave anxiety copes as she tries to decide between wheel or elbow macaroni for her mac n cheese)

I wonder if she even owns a tv. Does Dolce & Gabbana make them? 😂 

[SnarkAttack]

11 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I like Kathy.

DO you need this desk here?

 

 

I finally noticed how much she looks like Caitlyn Jenner.

[Feech]

1 hour ago, Boo Boo said:

I think it's hilarious that Erika (on the previews) states "I thought I was going to be holding that man's hands until the day he died."  Most people would simply say "I thought we would be together forever."   "Until the day he died" sounds like gold digger projecting her end goal.  His death. 

Actually she was misquoted. Erika actually said “I thought I was going to be holding that pillow over his face on the day he died.”

[BloggerAloud]

Erika showing up in the end in that dress like she's going to say "I'm Mrs. Norman Maine" into a microphone is hilarious to me.

[SnarkAttack]

Sutton's legs are really, really REALLY thin.  She is very apple shaped.

Did PK just lose weight, or was he thinner last season, I can't remember.  He looked good.

Crystal decided before joining the show what role she was going to play; she's trying pretty hard.

 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

Unlike many here, I like Kyle and am at best lukewarm about Dorit. I don't have a problem with Kyle setting boundaries about the what she'll accept from a "friend" speaking to her.  

I like that Kyle likes to confront these things before they become big deals. That being said, the confrontation at a party is all about the cameras, so I will ding Kyle for that.

[Hangin Out]

15 hours ago, JD5166 said:

I have a thousand purses most of which are Coach. My choo was a gift from my NY boss to bring  a little of my New York back to Iowa...and like my NY, it sits in the dark closet being mean never seeing the light of day. Lol

I have about five Coach bags from the Outlet. Too heavy hardware.  Now they sit in the closet .. my two girls don’t want them.  They buy in Target.  Now I wear am inexpensive Vera crossbody.  Small and light.

[Hangin Out]

13 minutes ago, BloggerAloud said:

Erika showing up in the end in that dress like she's going to say "I'm Mrs. Norman Maine" into a microphone is hilarious to me.

She was walking like the Queen of England.  Divorce?  I think her and Tom cooked something up to keep her out of things.  They probably will get together after everything is over, IF he’s not guilty.

[SemiCharmedLife]

4 hours ago, Maximona said:

Well.  It could have been a passionate love match when it first happened.

I mean—here's what they looked like early on in their relationship.  (I've never tried to upload a photo here before!  Fingers crossed it works.)

He has that vigerous look to him.  She's almost unrecognizeable.  

If I'm remembering correctly, her father walked out on her when she was one year old, so, you know.  Daddy issues.

She's unrecognizable because she is SMILING!

[Cosmocrush]

14 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Sutton is always so aghast when people ask or talk about how much things cost but she just so gauchely dropped to Kyle and Kathy that she spent $35k on that party. 

I was coming to say the same thing.  Plus, she was HORRIFIED that that jewelry was displayed with price tags but it didn't bother her to display them to sell.  

So apparently it's okay to invite your friends to ostensibly come to lunch but really it's a high end tupperware sale.   Sorry Sutton you are tacky, which would be okay except you go out of your way to tell us how untacky you are, lol.  

Edited June 17, 2021 by Cosmocrush

[nosedive]

1 hour ago, Hangin Out said:

Harry.  How old is he now?  Do you all think Harry is interested in sex and bj’s at this time in his life?  Between those lips of Rinnas and Bj’s, she’s disgusting.  Unless he uses Viagra.  I think he would rather do gardening instead of Rinna.

He's 69.  Yes, he more than likely is interested in sex.  No, he likely doesn't need Viagra unless he has a physical condition that interferes with normal sexual function.  He probably enjoys both gardening and sex with his wife.  Even at 69, a person can garden and enjoy sex, though not at the same time. 

[Hangin Out]

1 hour ago, Boo Boo said:

LOL, right?

I'm going to be 54 soon.  in my late 40s and up until about 52, my hormones made me ready for sex any time.  My BF was a happy man.

Now I'm hoping that he gets irreversible erectile dysfunction anytime now that I'm done with menapause and have zero interest.

[edit:  @Mr. Miner hopefully your wife doesn't hold the same thoughts lol]

Right.  Plus the romance is gone.  Now I get “what’s for dinner”.

[TattleTeeny]

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 Even at 69, a person can garden and enjoy sex, though not at the same time. 

I am sure there's a "hoe" joke in here somewhere?

[hoodooznoodooz]

13 hours ago, Miss Bones said:

Kyle and Rinna are both so basic, they would show up in the same dress.  I like how Rinna says “Who knows, there could be another!”  I’m sure the dress is high-end and not cheap, but to me it looks like a dress you would wear after you found it by typing “Parisian theme dress” on Amazon Prime.

 

And I wonder if Kim is going to be mad at Kyle for mentioning the “goddamn house”.

🤷🏻‍♀️

You all are on fire regarding this episode. I’m laughing big time.

I liked this episode a lot. My DVR cut off. So, the end was just Erika making her big, soap opera/daytime drama entrance in an overpriced fugly outfit? No dialogue?

[Miss Bones]

4 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

You all are on fire regarding this episode. I’m laughing big time.

I liked this episode a lot. My DVR cut off. So, the end was just Erika making her big, soap opera/daytime drama entrance in an overpriced fugly outfit? No dialogue?

Yes, that is all we saw of Erika at the end.  I found that disappointing, what with her name being in the title!

[Raiderred]

44 minutes ago, SnarkAttack said:

Sutton's legs are really, really REALLY thin.  She is very apple shaped.

Right?  An apple on two toothpicks. She has no waist at all.

[hoodooznoodooz]

14 hours ago, WaltersHair said:

"Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy night."

Except Erika has a thimbleful of Betty Davis' talent.

That’s generous. Not even a molecule, in my opinion. 😉

[Hangin Out]

1 minute ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

That’s generous. Not even a molecule, in my opinion. 😉

OMG .. She came out like she was going to kill someone.  What kind of face was that?

[eelpout]

17 hours ago, Julyolo said:

Sutton's actually displaying her jewelry from her store to entice her friends to buy it at her party? Shades of High Rent Tupperware.

every time we see Sutton's store I'm reminded of the early 1990's movie The New Age, with Judy Davis and Peter Weller. Except that Sutton can afford it. 

[Cosmocrush]

13 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Who wore it better Kyle or Rinna? Loathe as I am to admit it - Kyle.  I love that sorta 80s rich bitch dynasty vibe so that dress was serving to me, but was Kyle's bra showing in the back?

Yep, that's the first thing I noticed and when Rinna came in without it I knew.   By the way I think Kyle wore it better too.   The only reason I can think of why Rinna and Kyle (anyone else) would show up in the same outfit is they must shop at the same shop and the sales person  has a sense of humour. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

5 hours ago, Maximona said:

I mean—here's what they looked like early on in their relationship. 

I’m confused. In a few old photos Erika has hooded eyelids. She was already glamming. Did a cosmetic surgeon alter her eyelids and then eventually switch her back? 

[RealHousewife]

2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

I enjoyed Dorit's response to Kyle.  Kyle was the wrong one in that discussion.  Someone talks to me like Kyle did to Dorit and we are going to have a different type of relationship.

Yep. We would just be coworkers, or as Yolanda would say, Hollywood friends. Kyle doesn't genuinely like Dorit. IDK if it's due to jealousy or a clash in personality types or what. Kyle goes back and forth between being this aggressive, screaming, cursing mean girl and a cry baby. She's been this way for many years. Dorit is even-keeled. I'd rather have friends who show up late than ones who have all the outbursts. 

Edited June 17, 2021 by RealHousewife

[Hangin Out]

17 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Next season Harry files for divorce lol 

Isn’t he in Canada most of the time anyway?  Doing something?

[Cosmocrush]

1 hour ago, Hangin Out said:

She was walking like the Queen of England.  Divorce?  I think her and Tom cooked something up to keep her out of things.  They probably will get together after everything is over, IF he’s not guilty.

And more importantly, IF there is any money left. 

[CSunshine76]

26 minutes ago, Hangin Out said:

Isn’t he in Canada most of the time anyway?  Doing something?

Or someONE? 

[Boo Boo]

18 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Love bean 🙄

Don't kill me for saying this guys, but PK looks cute with glasses. 

Dorit's look reminds me of Cher Horowitz.  

I'm starting to find PK oddly attractive too.

And I wasn't stoned watching!

[Boo Boo]

18 hours ago, JD5166 said:

That bag is ugly AF.

Do the rich ever ask themselves why they would spend that kind of money on an ugly purse?

$95K could do so much for an animal shelter.

[Hangin Out]

24 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

And more importantly, IF there is any money left. 

Probably not.  Does anyone think there might be jail time?  I’m sure this all will take a very long time.

[Kiss my mutt]

Between this and the Josh Duggar case, it’s going to be a long summer  

[Hangin Out]

1 minute ago, Boo Boo said:

Do the rich ever ask themselves why they would spend that kind of money on an ugly purse?

$95K could do so much for an animal shelter.

So much money wasted.  Who dresses up like Kyle and the others to go to someone’s house?  That hat on Kyle too.  So pretentious.

[Starlight925]

Hated the way Sutton kept snapping at her Event Planner team.  

Note to Sutton:  Class is speaking kindly to all.

Crystal shows vulnerability, opening up about her bulimia, and Rinna thinks that's a great opportunity to make it all about Amelia.  

Not once did she show a gram of compassion towards Crystal; she just ran around the party turning Crystal's openness about Amelia's struggles.  Horrid woman, that Rinna.

[Feech]

34 minutes ago, Starlight925 said:

Crystal shows vulnerability, opening up about her bulimia, and Rinna thinks that's a great opportunity to make it all about Amelia.  

Not once did she show a gram of compassion towards Crystal; she just ran around the party turning Crystal's openness about Amelia's struggles.  Horrid woman, that Rinna.

They are all fame whores. That’s why they are on the show.

I wonder what story Crystal will come up with next to put the focus on her. 

She will have to come up with something good with all the Erika stuff.

Edited June 17, 2021 by Feech

[Boo Boo]

30 minutes ago, Starlight925 said:

Hated the way Sutton kept snapping at her Event Planner team.  

Note to Sutton:  Class is speaking kindly to all.

Crystal shows vulnerability, opening up about her bulimia, and Rinna thinks that's a great opportunity to make it all about Amelia.  

Not once did she show a gram of compassion towards Crystal; she just ran around the party turning Crystal's openness about Amelia's struggles.  Horrid woman, that Rinna.

No fan of Rinna, but isn't it pretty normal to share a struggle you're intimately familiar with since your kid just went through it?

[Hangin Out]

15 minutes ago, Feech said:

They are all game whores. That’s why they are on the show.

I wonder what story Crystal will come up with next to put the focus on her. 

She will have to come up with something good with all the Erika stuff.

What could Erika possibly say?  I knew nothing?  But she took and took and took and didn’t care where it was coming from.  If I were her, I’d be scared shit.  I have to read the whole Tom story, when, what, from who, etc.

[Feech]

Just now, Hangin Out said:

What could Erika possibly say?  I knew nothing?  But she took and took and took and didn’t care where it was coming from.  If I were her, I’d be scared shit.  I have to read the whole Tom story, when, what, from who, etc.

She could say about the burn victims bilked out of their settlements: “I have zero fucks to give.”

Because that’s the impression she gives us by her behavior.

[WhatAmIWatching]

1 hour ago, RealHousewife said:

Yep. We would just be coworkers, or as Yolanda would say, Hollywood friends. Kyle doesn't genuinely like Dorit. IDK if it's due to jealousy or a clash in personality types or what. Kyle goes back and forth between being this aggressive, screaming, cursing mean girl and a cry baby. She's been this way for many years. Dorit is even-keeled. I'd rather have friends who show up late than ones who have all the outbursts. 

I think Kyle is still pissed at Dorit for 'ruining' her friendship with LVP. After all, she was defending Dorit when it ended. 

8 minutes ago, Boo Boo said:

No fan of Rinna, but isn't it pretty normal to share a struggle you're intimately familiar with since your kid just went through it?

If it's Rinna, because I loathe her, absolutely not. If it's anyone else in the world, absolutely yes! 😆 

[Maximona]

45 minutes ago, Boo Boo said:

That bag is ugly AF.

(In the interests of responsible referencing, Boo Boo is quoting someone else here.)

I really liked the bag.

Should I be embarrassed or ashamed?  😊

[Boo Boo]

25 minutes ago, Maximona said:

(In the interests of responsible referencing, Boo Boo is quoting someone else here.)

I really liked the bag.

Should I be embarrassed or ashamed?  😊

Different strokes!

But I do think $95k for any bag automatically makes it ugly AF just 'cause it's $95K! To me, it's just an ungodly amount to spend on a handbag.

What it really means is:  "I'm so wealthy I can throw out 95k on this bag"

Edited June 17, 2021 by Boo Boo

[MissFeatherbottom]

14 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

Rinna and her stupid BJ comment,

 

Ughh....when she made that comment I had a gross flashback to the scene last week brushing her teeth with greasy lips...Yuck!!

[Mar]

19 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

Don’t let the door hit you in your dog dumping ass! 🖕🏻

I thought it was so funny the LVP’s new show, Vanderpump Dogs, started the second that the housewives show was finished. Rinna probably felt like needles were stabbing her in her eyeballs

[Mar]

Sutton doesn’t have her own thread so I will post this here. It is somewhat related to this episode discussion because of the party she gave. I was curious about her and googled her.

Edited June 17, 2021 by Mar

[charliesan]

I can buy that both Sutton and her ex-husband are worth $2 million each, but I can also buy that at least one of them comes from family money, so that's why Sutton can live so lavishly. From what I've seen her store still managed to survive the pandemic despite being closed (that's what I understood from the episode) and she's still managing monthly payments to Kyle, so clearly she has been able to support her lifestyle. 

I can see professional athletes being able to lose 5 pounds, or maybe someone who is overweight can achieve that feat during a couple of days, but someone as thin as Crystal? Sorry, not buying it. At least from my experience, for someone who is naturally thin it's harder to lose weight, unless, like some of you mentioned before, she took laxatives or did something extreme. I honestly felt like she was baiting Sutton but as soon as the entire group starting joking about it then it was all "oh but you guys, I had an eating disorder".

Kyle & Dorit. I think Kyle likes to have control and with LVP gone she thought she was going to be revered like LVP was, but unfortunately for Kyle, Dorit has a backbone. While I don't think the "Fuckup Up Five" get together and plan out who is going to be the target for each season I do think they have an understanding about not going after each other, I don't believe for one second they have a strong bond like the NYC Ladies (Ramona, Sonja and LuAnn). They're just co-workers and Kyle thinks she's the CEO, so she expects to go unopposed so any menial disagreement will send her to the edge. I don't think Kyle sees Dorit as a threat of becoming the fan favorite but she does expect Dorit to be under her thumb. 

Dorit's speech about how "Erika is reserved and when she's ready she will talk" was bullshit, then why didn't they give Denise such grace? Especially since last season it was all about an alleged hook-up and this is about (as of now) a divorce that apparently came out of nowhere. 

 

[chlban]

3 hours ago, Hangin Out said:

She was walking like the Queen of England.  Divorce?  I think her and Tom cooked something up to keep her out of things.  They probably will get together after everything is over, IF he’s not guilty.

Even if he's found not guilty, there are civil suits so he will still be broke. 

[Mar]

19 hours ago, goofygirl said:

You know, with over the top flowers, the good china, the chef, the bar, the candles, the FIREWORKS!!!

LVP is gone🥺

[chlban]

1 hour ago, Boo Boo said:

Do the rich ever ask themselves why they would spend that kind of money on an ugly purse?

$95K could do so much for an animal shelter.

Yep. I volunteer at one and I cannot tell you what a difference half that amount would make. 

[bichonblitz]

Crystal is a bit of a drama queen. 

Kathy needs to cool it with the bossy comments to Sutton about her store. She may be able to treat her sisters like that but it's not ok with other people. I think most of the time Kathy lives in a Beverly Hills bubble not relatable to the rest of mankind. Can't wait to see what kind of a party she throws and what her house looks like. 

[Hiyo]

“Crystal shows vulnerability, opening up about her bulimia”

I hope we get to see more of Crystal and her life as the season goes on. I find her interesting so far.

[amarante]

1 hour ago, Hangin Out said:

So much money wasted.  Who dresses up like Kyle and the others to go to someone’s house?  That hat on Kyle too.  So pretentious.

They aren't dressing up to visit friends. They are dressing up as cast members of a television show. 

In real life Beverly Hills people don't dress like this unless it is a real event. 

Normally it wouldn't be so ridiculous because without COVID they would be gong to actual events where normal women dress up but because of COVID they are forced to have "events" in private homes because of COVID regulations in California. 

However I am really astounded by how much interaction and hugging there was. Yes I know they are all theoretically tested but theoretically there was testing at the White House during that period and there were huge outbreaks even with some outdoors events like the swearing in of the Supreme Court Justice

[Boo Boo]

11 minutes ago, charliesan said:

I can see professional athletes being able to lose 5 pounds, or maybe someone who is overweight can achieve that feat during a couple of days, but someone as thin as Crystal? Sorry, not buying it. At least from my experience, for someone who is naturally thin it's harder to lose weight, unless, like some of you mentioned before, she took laxatives or did something extreme. I honestly felt like she was baiting Sutton but as soon as the entire group starting joking about it then it was all "oh but you guys, I had an eating disorder".

 

 

The whole discussion was strange. I paraphrase:  "I lost 5 pounds due to stress from the trip."  [everyone looks at Sutton and laughs].  Then "no, that's bad -- I had a eating disorder.  But it's under control now."

To lose 5 pounds during that short trip, she would've had to severely restrict her calories, or she sweated it out and shat it out.  Did they notice her not eating? 

The only way that convo comes up organically and not with the intent to punish Sutton is if someone pulled her aside about "Hey, you seem upset and you haven't touched your food."  

But that didn't happen.  They were only concerned she missed one dinner because, as they found out later, Sutton rudely barged in and almost saw her naked.

Or...maybe she was worried Sutton saw her trying to get rid of the calories she ate and her eating disorder isn't really under control as she said.  

 

[amarante]

1 hour ago, Maximona said:

(In the interests of responsible referencing, Boo Boo is quoting someone else here.)

I really liked the bag.

Should I be embarrassed or ashamed?  😊

The bag is a collector's item. It will be able to be sold for more than the amount she paid for it because there are that many Hermes fanatics with deep pockets.

It isn't going to depreciate in value because it is never going to get worn for any significant amount of time - it's a ladies who lunch purse. I doubt it would even go on the floor - some of the women I know carry purse hooks for the table so that they can hook their bags when they are sitting because you can't put a hand held purse slung over your chair.

Whether people like it or not, it's no more ridiculous than any other non-functional item wealthy people or even people with any amount of discretionary spending use. Why are stamps, coins or even jewelry a more valid use of money than collectible purses. 

Edited June 17, 2021 by amarante