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6 hours ago, Ucross said:

This is apropos Natalie -- I would guess you can skirt green card rules when making YouTube vids? I don't really know, but income would come through ads, wouldn't it? Is that considered work?

Yes, it's considered work. Natalie was able to skirt this by only recently allowing ads, which means she probably just got her work permit (or green card). When she was uploading videos last fall they didn't have ads. 

The way that some of these people have been able to get around Cameo stuff is by doing the videos together and officially earning the money under the American's name. 

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1 hour ago, mamadrama said:

 

@Mrs. Hanson is right. If he's in the public school system then he has to remain in that state as long as he is using that school system's online options. I had to get surgery in another state last year and we took the kids with us for about 2 weeks. During that time they couldn't work online if it was new material, they could only finish up things they'd already started. They also couldn't attend online meetings. Because of the extenuating circumstances the school did allow them to catch up when we returned, but we had to jump through a lot of hoops just for 2 weeks. 

What Tiff *could* do is enroll him in an independent online school system that's not tied to Maryland. Or she could homeschool him, which is what we're doing when the kids and I go to Eastern Europe for 5 months next spring. 

 

I assume private schools don’t have the same rules.  My kids are in private school and 50% of the class was zooming (google-class-rooming) in from other states, one kid was in the Virgin Islands.  There are some families with summer homes in Florida, Michigan, etc and the kids were there.  This was when lockdown first happened end of last school year, my kids were not remote this last school year.  
My son was in Wisconsin at a friend’s lake house for a few weeks, zoomed-in and no one said anything.  Is this only a public school rule?

Poor Daniel, he just doesn’t want to be in S Africa.  Poor guy wants to be home with his friends and grandma.  It’s beyond time for Tiffany to give up the bullshit, and cut Ronald loose.

Kalani hates Asuelu.. why fake laugh at his stupid jokes?   Why pretend you want to bang him?  She is faking all of this interest in him, but why??  The paycheck?

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12 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

I assume private schools don’t have the same rules.  My kids are in private school and 50% of the class was zooming (google-class-rooming) in from other states, one kid was in the Virgin Islands.  There are some families with summer homes in Florida, Michigan, etc and the kids were there.  This was when lockdown first happened end of last school year, my kids were not remote this last school year.  
My son was in Wisconsin at a friend’s lake house for a few weeks, zoomed-in and no one said anything.  Is this only a public school rule?

Poor Daniel, he just doesn’t want to be in S Africa.  Poor guy wants to be home with his friends and grandma.  It’s beyond time for Tiffany to give up the bullshit, and cut Ronald loose.

Kalani hates Asuelu.. why fake laugh at his stupid jokes?   Why pretend you want to bang him?  She is faking all of this interest in him, but why??  The paycheck?

Yes, as I said in my comment, this is a public school issue. That's why I also said that they could get around it by registering with an independent school. Private schools have far more flexibility. 

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14 hours ago, Hangin Out said:

Finally, good for her.  It must be hard to be on your own.  Where do you start?  She has to find a place to go, and set herself up, unless she has friends to help.  She’s still married to him tho.  Did she get the green card yet?

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 I can’t stand his face. A real dufuss red fuck face stupid ass.

 

Mike looks exactly like Butthead from Beavis & Butthead  

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10 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

My son was in Wisconsin at a friend’s lake house for a few weeks, zoomed-in and no one said anything.  Is this only a public school rule?

Yes it is a public school rule.  Private schools take no federal funds so they can do what they want.  As a special ed teacher, I can't work in a private school as they are not required to recognize special education.  Sped is paid from a different pot of money.

As for Tiffany homeschooling Daniel:  HA HA HA HA HA! The chick can't figure out she is pregnant, does not make enough to sponsor Ronald, yeah no.....gathering materials, lining them up with state standards, pacing out lessons, assessing those lessons.....not gonna happen.  And if Daniel DOES miss a lot, he will probably not be retained.  Data has born out that retaining a student, unless they are very young (repeating kindergarten) does no help academically and hurts them socially.

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10 hours ago, mamadrama said:

Yes, as I said in my comment, this is a public school issue. That's why I also said that they could get around it by registering with an independent school. Private schools have far more flexibility. 

I’m sorry I missed that!  It’s crazy the different rules public vs private.  

If Brandon and Julia were smart they would be saving every penny right now, but it sounds like that’s not happening.

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12 hours ago, Jax7917 said:

Was a new episode on last night ? It didn’t come up on my DVR 

Yes, but Tiffany repeating herself for the hundredth time.

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Finally got to watch....

Kalani/Asuelo---I FF'd through their scenes, thanks for the heads up/tip. The whole sex shop visit was cringe worthy and not because I am a prude. I love how she was all about how she is sex positive (another now en vogue phrase I keep hearing), yet uh, you were a virgin until 28 and picked a one night stand with Baby Huey to lose it? Seriously? If you were not holding out until marriage, then why in all that is holy would you pick THAT to not just have sex with, but lose your virginity to ? I can't believe she didn't have opportunities in the States or prior to a vacay at TWENTY EIGHT. Although...just had a thought. Maybe she WASN'T a virgin and is going with that line because her family will see this show and it would be a big no no to admit she had been banging dudes for a while? Either way, she is SOOOO not into him. You got two sweet kids out of the deal, in the words of Trish, give him $5000 and send him back to Samoa. 

Trish/Natalie/Mike---yeah, cause in the words of the late Diana, there are 3 in that marriage. What a nightmare. Nats may be a bit nutty, but Mike is a gaslighting, alcoholic piece of crap and his mother isn't much better. No interest in making Natalie feel at home or part of the family. Stereotypical American who thinks ok, you are here now and this is how shit is done, like it or leave, cause of course the US does it all best. You have career hopes and dreams? Tough shit lady, you need to bring home some cash quick to by my precious boy some tomahawks. 

Brandon/Julia----I dont' blame them for being upset about the party and for calling out the parents. It was rude to walk out though....there were other guests and it would not have killed them to be social and introduce Julia. I get where Betty was coming from, because of Covid, the wedding was quick and small and she wanted to show off her new daughter in law. I think she has genuine affection for Julia and does want her to be part of the family (not like Trish), but she has boundary issues with her son. When Ron was raging about how they are not prepared, I kept thinking, he is right, but who's fault is that?? They never cared to equip their son or make him fly on his one before....

Angela----everyone smoker I know wishes they had never started and says quitting is hell. I wish her luck with the hypnosis helping. The weight is mostly water coming off (and missing breast tissue), but if it motivates her, then ......

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16 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

That hat seems like a good choice for an outdoor Sunday brunch. In the heat, I would wear either a wide brimmed closed hat or a baseball style cap.

Maybe it's because I'm from Texas and am sensitive to the stereotypes, but avoiding a literal red neck is my highest priority when it comes to sun exposure.

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1 hour ago, heatherchandler said:

If Brandon and Julia were smart they would be saving every penny right now, but it sounds like that’s not happening.

If Brandon and Julia were smart they would research where the demand for his job is high and MOVE THERE.  Somewhere with a low cost of living.  And adjust your cell phones that incoming calls from Mommy can only come in at certain times or off to voice mail you go!

 

1 hour ago, Hangin Out said:

Yes, but Tiffany repeating herself for the hundredth time.

She is unsure of what to go, right?  And nervous over Ronald's interview.  Thought I heard her say those things.......

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On 6/14/2021 at 3:57 AM, Rebky said:

You all - Andrrrrrrei was showing some serious gunnage tonight.  For the first time ever, I was thinking, "How YOU doing?" His wife looked like 10 miles of bad country road however. 

Although none of them are any great prize,  Libby definitely got more shortchanged in the looks department.  About André: he may be opinionated and obnoxious but it looks like he’ll be a hard worker and he’s smarter than the entire Chucklefuck family put together.  And he seems to be an involved Dad. Who would have thought? 

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9 minutes ago, nytonc said:

Although none of them are any great prize,  Libby definitely got more shortchanged in the looks department.  About André: he may be opinionated and obnoxious but it looks like he’ll be a hard worker and he’s smarter than the entire Chucklefuck family put together.  And he seems to be an involved Dad. Who would have thought? 

As much as I can’t stand Mike, I just cannot get on board with team Natalie. I think she’s truly nuts. I’m pretty sure see her in the headlines one day and it won’t be good. 

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On 6/14/2021 at 1:19 PM, magemaud said:

She smoked on the way in, then the hypnotist instructed her to "go outside and smoke" her last cigarette before he hypnotized her. When she came in, he had her symbolically throw out the rest of the pack. 

But did he check her bra for other packs??!!

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Is Tiffany taking three months worth of money to support them in SA? I don't think her dork loser husband saved up cash for the visit. 

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1 hour ago, lilysmom said:

But did he check her bra for other packs??!!

I wouldn't check her for anything with a ten foot pole. She is the most disgusting person to appear on 90DF, and there have been a lot of disgusting people on the show.

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On 6/14/2021 at 5:43 AM, Pepper Mostly said:

And Tania, judiciously selecting vibrators. She's a discerning consumer of adult toys! 

"visit to a sex shop" is one of Matt Sharp's half dozen plot ideas. Along with "foreign finance has shady past" ,"visit to parents to ask for blessing", "visit coffee shop to talk to sassy/skeptical friend", and of course the piece de resistance, "visit to bridal shop to try on wedding dresses".

 

Betty can't be nicer to Julia because she appears to be incapable of empathy. She kept bleating "I did something nice for you!" Even though she was told repeatedly that a party was not what they wanted. Her version of "nice" is doing what Betty wants. 

Ron is just a terrible person. What kind of father belittles and debases his son in that way? "You are an idiot! You are incapable of the most basic life skills! You are so stupid you don't even know what things cost! How dare you think that you could be able to live on you own, you pathetic, stupid loser!" With his red face and bulging eyeballs I thought he was going to stroke out. 

Ron and Betty should look in a mirror. If their son is a bumbling blithering idiot they bear some responsibility for that. 

And why the absolute panic at that thought that their 28 year old, married son might get a place of his own? 

Mike and his mother are just vomit inducing.  I agree, they make Debbie look like Donna Reed. 

And did you notice how every time he was seemingly about to explode Betty grabbed his hand to hold it and calm him down.  I can't remember if she was also stroking it or not.  It seems that she's extremely accustomed to having to defuse hot situations involving Ron.

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On 6/14/2021 at 7:58 AM, Mean Jeanne said:

Totally this. I made the mistake of trying to watch this whole episode for a change and had to run to my hidey place and smoke a little bowl (I don’t drink for medical reasons, also like the weed high more than alcohol). Pillow Talk almost always has couples that I enjoy, and they usually call the HEA peeps on all their bullshit. Favorites are Loren/Alexei, Tim/Veronica, David/Annie, Molly/Cynthia

Am embarrassed that I used to have a convertible Mustang after seeing the one in Trish’s driveway.

I used to blame Natalie for most of their troubles, but now I hate Mike, Trish and Natalie equally. And I think anyone over the age of 15 who calls their mother anything besides Mom (Mommy. Momma etc) is a little pathetic.

Family Libby are the very worst Tampa Trash I’ve ever seen. And I lived in Florida for 59 years.

Kalani/Asuelo  I just don’t watch, yuck. Same for Tiffany/Ronald.

The worst of it all is that most of these people are involving precious children in their dumpster fire lives, I dread to see how their adult lives will be affected.

And finally, just a comment - I successfully quit smoking almost 30 years ago with just one hypnosis session. One of the best things I ever did for myself

 

That's kind of a harsh statement.  I don't think that Mike should be the barometer for measuring everyone else who ever called their parents mommy/daddy, mama/papa, or whatever other nicknames there are for beloved parents.  I'm adopted.  My parents adopted me when they were both in their 50s.  No one could wish for better parents.  They were my world, especially my father (I was a total daddy's girl).  My dad passed away when I was in my young 20s, and my mom when I was in my 30s, and to the day that each of them died they were always mommy and daddy to me. 

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On 6/14/2021 at 10:12 AM, Hangin Out said:

Publicity.  Who travels across the country for surgery?  There are great surgeons in Georgia.  Plus, what doctor bullshits with their patients?  No doctor I know.  It’s in and out with some questions and answers.  Mykul looks turned off about the $25,000.  The smaller boobs too.

Angela's boobs really did look small last this episode, didn't they?  They were barely there, and certainly didn't look to me like they were double or triple Ds or whatever size Dr. Gorilla Glue claimed they would be after all was said and done.

I wonder if Angela's boob doctor, Dr. Gorilla Glue donated his time and efforts to removing the Gorilla Glue from that nitwit's head free of charge so as to try to build some good will towards himself after having been proven onscreen to be unethical and untrustworthy for having removed more boobage from Angela than she had agreed to.

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19 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

I can't imagine Tiff homeschooling Daniel unless it is short term. Where would she find that kind of time? She would have to find someone else, even if it is her mother. Guess it depends on the jurisdiction. Have no idea what the rules are here. Sad to take Daniel away and get him very behind at school and probably having to repeat a year.

I doubt I would want to be on Sharp's dime. Especially if I get a bad edit. 

Hope they can send Natalie to a nice city for her to start over.

I do not wish Natalie any form of a good life.  I hope they ALL have crappy lives, because they're ALL crappy people.  Natalie was not a nice person when the threw the ring at Mike in the Ukraine, or when she was denigrating him after moving to the U.S. pursuant to her K-1 visa approval.  All of the snide, nasty comments she made, she knew darn well she was being verbally abusive about his weight, intellect, food preferences, drinking preferences, and whatnot.  Disregarding that likely what she said is true.  He is overweight and stupid and does probably drink too much, but you don't say things like that to a loved one and expect to continue on with that person as if nothing ever happened.

Mike in turn was a huge POS for his passive-aggressiveness towards Natalie the entire time she was living with him after having gotten her K-1 visa approval.  Also for his bait-and-switch behaviors about being willing to buy her a wedding dress, then skimping out, being willing to set a wedding date, but then backing out, about not keeping the house warm enough for her or catering enough to her pescatarian needs (I refuse to call this POS a vegetarian, which I am and have been for almost 32 years, because that's NOT what she is).

Trash is a POS for having tried to get Mike's neighbor to stop the wedding.  Also for her non-stop relentless surreptitious attacks on Natalie from the time she and Mike arrived in Oklahoma.

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18 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

I assume private schools don’t have the same rules.  My kids are in private school and 50% of the class was zooming (google-class-rooming) in from other states, one kid was in the Virgin Islands.  There are some families with summer homes in Florida, Michigan, etc and the kids were there.  This was when lockdown first happened end of last school year, my kids were not remote this last school year.  
My son was in Wisconsin at a friend’s lake house for a few weeks, zoomed-in and no one said anything.  Is this only a public school rule?

Poor Daniel, he just doesn’t want to be in S Africa.  Poor guy wants to be home with his friends and grandma.  It’s beyond time for Tiffany to give up the bullshit, and cut Ronald loose.

Kalani hates Asuelu.. why fake laugh at his stupid jokes?   Why pretend you want to bang him?  She is faking all of this interest in him, but why??  The paycheck?

I wonder if her motivation in next week's episode to confess to him about having gone to see a divorce lawyer behind his back is actually her sneaky way of trying to trigger him into behaving like his usual Assholo self so that she will be justified in actually following through on that, and not because she feels guilty about doing it.  If she keeps Assholo as the bad guy in the relationship, she will always be justified in her complaints to her sister, mother, father about him.

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5 hours ago, nytonc said:

Although none of them are any great prize,  Libby definitely got more shortchanged in the looks department.  About André: he may be opinionated and obnoxious but it looks like he’ll be a hard worker and he’s smarter than the entire Chucklefuck family put together.  And he seems to be an involved Dad. Who would have thought? 

Agreed that he definitely seems like a hard worker, when he finally does get around to actually working (how many years has it been now?).  Unfortunately, he has zero ability or desire to get along with other people, so he will have to work for Chuck forever, unless his and Libby's adult porn income (OnlyFans) earns them enough that he will be able to work for himself, because his shitty personality will definitely be a detriment to his ever finding employment wherein he will be able to work hard.

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9 hours ago, nytonc said:

As much as I can’t stand Mike, I just cannot get on board with team Natalie. I think she’s truly nuts. I’m pretty sure see her in the headlines one day and it won’t be good. 

I used to like Natalie, but then I saw a side of her that I found rather off putting.  She lost me after she asked Mike’s friend if all American women are whores, like her. When she told Trish being a single mom is hard and that she ought to know, she had a smirk on her face.  I take it her mother is a widow. I don’t particularly care for Mike and Trish, but Natalie has a sharp tongue and a superior attitude. 

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Just want to say that Brandon and Julia not walking out and talking to his mom later, won't, in my opinion, work.  They already talked to her and she didn't listen.  She won't listen later, either.  In her head, if they stayed at the party, all she'll hear is, "I won!" And feel justified to do what she wants.  I think it comes down to motive.  If I really believed Betty did it from the goodness of her heart, then maybe stay at the party and talk later, but I think her motive was purely self-centered .  Yes, the kids need to grow up, but Mom and Dad didn't raise Brandon to be an adult.

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1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

  I take it her mother is a widow

She’s divorced from Mike’s Dad 

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2 hours ago, Johann said:

Just want to say that Brandon and Julia not walking out and talking to his mom later, won't, in my opinion, work.  They already talked to her and she didn't listen.  She won't listen later, either.  In her head, if they stayed at the party, all she'll hear is, "I won!" And feel justified to do what she wants.  I think it comes down to motive.  If I really believed Betty did it from the goodness of her heart, then maybe stay at the party and talk later, but I think her motive was purely self-centered .  Yes, the kids need to grow up, but Mom and Dad didn't raise Brandon to be an adult.

   I feel like there might have been some producer shenanigans involved here.  I can just hear someone whispering to Betty that Julia and Brandon deep down really want this and they’ll secretly be thrilled and feel soooo special if she were to go ahead with her plan.  

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13 hours ago, Stuckathome said:

you were a virgin until 28 and picked a one night stand with Baby Huey to lose it? Seriously? If you were not holding out until marriage, then why in all that is holy would you pick THAT to not just have sex with, but lose your virginity to ? I can't believe she didn't have opportunities in the States or prior to a vacay at TWENTY EIGHT.

Ehhhh you think so?  I don’t think she could GIVE it away.  I doubt anyone was hitting on that before Asuelu.  

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Ehhhh you think so?  I don’t think she could GIVE it away.  I doubt anyone was hitting on that before Asuelu.  

Do you say this because she is overweight? She is, but, in the US, that is  more and more common. I think she is beautiful, just needs a few lessons on how to dress ;) 

Even if no one in the states hit on her, she went to Samoa for vacay----where big is beautiful, big equals health and wealth (Baby Huey even said that when he saw her size he knew her family must have $$ to take such good care of her)....I can't believe there wasn't a guy with smoother moves than Asuelo. The man seems barely verbal at times. 

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I am sure this has been mentioned before, but what is it with the only child of divorced/widowed/still married women?  Brandon, Colt, Mike, I am sure there are others.  Brandon has sibs from his dad but said he had never lived with them.  I know PLENTY of solo moms (my sister is one) and I assure you, they have a very healthy relationship.  

1 hour ago, Stuckathome said:

I think she is beautiful, just needs a few lessons on how to dress ;) 

I agree - the dresses/tops with her breasts out on display are not flattering.  At all.

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I’ve been getting really heavy Kardashian vibes from Libby and her family now. They are so clearly trying to get a spinoff with some of these storylines. I was laughing so hard at Libby coming out with her black robe and going “Hey Daddy!” to Andrei. I just think that sounded so fake.

Libby’s siblings remind me of the three ugly stepsisters in Cinderella. First of all, they are all UGLY inside and out. Secondly, they are entitled, rude, and spoiled. And Charlie should have been bodily removed from the yacht they were on. Chuck has obviously allowed a very toxic environment where they all vie for his attention and approval, and are just handed jobs. The best thing Libby and Andrei can do is move away from that horrid family!

Psycho Betty is a total narcissist for behaving as she does. The birthday reaction was over the top. Brandon and Julia specifically told his parents they didn’t want anything at the party and she reacted like a classic victim. But Brandon and his father have allowed her to ride roughshod for years and have enabled the problem.

I still cannot stop thinking about how angry Ron got. Dude definitely has rage issues. Way to go in making Brandon feel like he is too stupid/poor/inexperienced to live out on his own! His parents totally erode their son’s confidence and self esteem by telling him he can’t do normal adult life, and all because they want him to stay with them FOREVER! If your 27-year-old is completely unprepared to live on their own, YOU are the problem. YOU were the one who didn’t prepare them.

Watching Kalani and Asuelu discuss sex really made me sick. I would simply pass away if my mom accompanied me on a sex trip. I mean, wouldn’t Kalani and Asuelu have saved money by having her mom watch the kids AT HOME?!

Also, Kalani is SO not into Asuelu. She is over the relationship. She says she’s sex positive, but she really isn’t at all.

She was kind of awful about the trip Asuelu planned. I actually felt bad for him. Why was she shitting all over his destination of choice? Asuelu planned this surprise, so give him credit. It may look like Bible camp, but he tried.

When Trish was like, “I’m the big bad mommy!” and laughed creepily I wanted to punch her in the face.

It really bugged me that Mike’s voice went to such a high octave when he got angry at Natalie. Also, the “we” he used to talk to Natalie was so gross.

“What did I ever do to you, Natalie?”

Let’s see, Trish:

1. You tried to talk your son out of marrying her.

2. You tried to have your son’s neighbor object at their wedding.

3. You implied she was getting too old to have kids.

4. You dragged her to the butcher to insult her vegetarian beliefs.

5. You counted on never getting called out on your bullshit because it’s hard for an ESL person to describe the passive-aggressive campaign you’ve been waging.

How can Trish say that she has no idea why Natalie would be upset with her? She’s been so nasty and not understanding with Natalie at all (not that Natalie has made the whole situation easy).

The way Trish kept on suggesting Mike should send Natalie “back to f***ing Ukraine” was really giving xenophobic vibes. I really dislike how some of the people on this show talk about the foreign fiances like they’re objects that you buy or something. Trish said “Send her back to f***ing Ukraine” like Natalie is a thing you can bring back to a store and you can return. The fact that Mike can’t see a problem with his mom’s behavior is disgusting.

I felt the deepest rage when Mike told Natalie to “get your head out of your ass” at the airport.

Finally, WHY IS MIKE NOT STANDING UP FOR NATALIE?!? If you marry somebody, you should defend them! You are a team! Even if you don’t agree with them, you never attack them and side with anybody else. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM?!?!?!

I know Natalie is off, but she’s not insidious like Mike and Trish. They’re just bad people.

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2 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I am sure this has been mentioned before, but what is it with the only child of divorced/widowed/still married women?  Brandon, Colt, Mike, I am sure there are others.  Brandon has sibs from his dad but said he had never lived with them.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Betty has more offspring. When she cried about not being worshipped on Mother’s Day weekend, she made a point of saying “you’re my only son.”  Not only child.  I certainly could be wrong about the significance of that.

When Angela was wearing that bank-robbin’ mask, she said it was because she had an abscess on her mouth or something.  Ugh, she seems so dirty to me that I imagine an infection somehow related to all of the medical shenanigans.

 

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Trish did not know how to react to Natalie simply refusing to engage. No matter what Natalie said Trish would find something to bitch about. I know Natalie appeared petulant but I think she realized she was outnumbered and would not get a fair shake from her husband or mother in law and in that moment chose to shut down . 
I am not a Natalie fan and think in many ways she is toxic but she was stuck with Trish for days who may have been laughing at her for days when the cameras weren’t around.

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Mike is proof that there was a man that was desperate enough to copulate with Treesh. There was so much beeping going on that my roommate asked, "What in the hell are you watching?" I said HBO because I was too embarrassed to admit the truth.

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I'm in the Not Watching Camp this season, but I enjoy the comments here and watch some reviews on YouTube. Why can't Sharp round up some new couples, don't they realize we bore easily and have short attention spans?

On 6/14/2021 at 7:35 AM, Gobi said:

She acted on some crime shows in Ukraine (at least three). You can find clips from them on YouTube. 

Perfect, I totally get it - Natalie is probably cast as the scary, bug-eyed perpetrator, the jealous other woman, the mean stepmother or the crazy past-her-prime actress, awaiting her close-up, Mr. de Mille. Does she, can she, actually open her mouth when she's speaking her "acting" lines?

On 6/14/2021 at 12:56 PM, Hangin Out said:

Not that it matters.  She still has that big mouth, and the stupid giggles after each sentence.  Very classy.

IMO Angela does not giggle, she brays loud and deep from a coarse Marlboro throat. I guess that's considered laughing, but no one else thinks she's witty, just her. Her inappropriate dialogue with her doctors is cringy. 

On 6/14/2021 at 2:54 PM, Coltee Gal said:

 

Oops, wrong quote. I was going to comment about Natalie making money on YouTube or wherever. In the past you didn't have to claim anything under $600, but that amount may have changed. 

22 hours ago, Xebug67 said:

  Unfortunately, he has zero ability or desire to get along with other people, so he will have to work for Chuck forever, unless his and Libby's adult porn income (OnlyFans) earns them enough that he will be able to work for himself, because his shitty personality

Oh dear, have you seen Libby's FansOnly? It's so mach ol' lady and so mach acting. I hate this couple, her family, and I think something is fishy in Andre's past.

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4 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if Betty has more offspring. When she cried about not being worshipped on Mother’s Day weekend, she made a point of saying “you’re my only son.”  Not only child.  I certainly could be wrong about the significance of that.

My understanding is that Ron has more kids from one or more previous wives, but Betty only has Brandon.      I figured Betty would ignore Brandon and Julia not wanting a party and cake, and unfortunately, I was right. 

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Hotel Snarker - I came here to say essentially what you said in your final paragraph, but didn't want to quite your entire long, but good, post.

Natalie is a whack job and a petulant child and I think part of her problem is understanding and expressing herself in English.  BUT Mike and Trish are just plain mean and that makes them much worse.

Julia said something very telling on the way to the party.  One reason she hoped there wouldn't be a lot of people there is that it was so hard and tiring to interpret and speak English all day.  I never really thought about it, but I can understand how, until you've fully integrated the language, it could be exhausting just trying to hold a conversation.

 

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7 hours ago, Shelbie said:

Trish did not know how to react to Natalie simply refusing to engage. No matter what Natalie said Trish would find something to bitch about. I know Natalie appeared petulant but I think she realized she was outnumbered and would not get a fair shake from her husband or mother in law and in that moment chose to shut down . 
I am not a Natalie fan and think in many ways she is toxic but she was stuck with Trish for days who may have been laughing at her for days when the cameras weren’t around.

Well said.

I don't think it is incumbent upon *anyone* to engage with people who have been controlling and dismissive, especially when they are trying to gaslight you by stating they've done nothing wrong. When you know people are using the show and cameras to exact their revenge upon you, all bets are off.

I definitely think Mike and Trish's plan for this year was to take in TLC dough while humiliating and gaslighting Natalie at every opportunity.

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8 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

When Angela was wearing that bank-robbin’ mask, she said it was because she had an abscess on her mouth or something.  Ugh, she seems so dirty to me that I imagine an infection somehow related to all of the medical shenanigans.

That was also her excuse for wearing the mask at the Tell All which was where she dropped  the weight loss surgery bombshell on Michael. She does appear to be missing some upper right side teeth in her THs. 

19 minutes ago, renatae said:

Clever redditor!

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I will never believe that Trish has her hair cut professionally.. 

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If so, she is wasting - what - $10 tops

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That was also her excuse for wearing the mask at the Tell All which was where she dropped  the weight loss surgery bombshell on Michael. 

I remember that as well....but I didnt' see the mask or hear that excuse at the start of the season, when she sprung the news on Michael. So....was the breaking news at the tell all a fake out reinactment (he already knew cause they had filmed these eps)??? 

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9 hours ago, magemaud said:

I will never believe that Trish has her hair cut professionally.. 

I posted previously that I could see Trish standing in front of her bathroom mirror with scissors in hand muttering about how Super Cuts wanted $6 for a bang trim and that she would chuckle to herself about how she would show them!

Now I want to add we hear a flush in the background and we see Roommate Ron walk past her and exit the bathroom.

 

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My cousin’s daughter cuts the family hair. Probably took a hair course in high school. Doubt any of them, except her, have been to a salon in years.

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On 6/15/2021 at 4:19 PM, Xebug67 said:

That's kind of a harsh statement.  I don't think that Mike should be the barometer for measuring everyone else who ever called their parents mommy/daddy, mama/papa, or whatever other nicknames there are for beloved parents.  I'm adopted.  My parents adopted me when they were both in their 50s.  No one could wish for better parents.  They were my world, especially my father (I was a total daddy's girl).  My dad passed away when I was in my young 20s, and my mom when I was in my 30s, and to the day that each of them died they were always mommy and daddy to me. 

What a wonderful story!  ❤️❤️❤️

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Brandon's parents are manipulative assholes.

Mother Brandon [summoning fake tears]: I can't believe you're mad at me for doing the thing you asked me not to do!

Father Brandon [red as a tomato] I'M GOING TO YELL UNTIL YOU DO WHAT I WANT!

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