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I had to laugh out loud at the beginning of this episode, not due to content, but the idea of Providence selected as a 'destination wedding' location.  I live in Rhode Island, and I'd believe maybe Newport, Narragansett, Barrington.  But Providence? Odd choice.

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A mention of Talli.  But who is Luis, who is staying at Talli’s grandparents.  Did they mean Clinton?  
 
The show needs to explain a couple things.  From day 1, we were led to believe the house was Talli’s grandparents.  Then they are gone, and Jess’s dad is staying  there,  then Sarah moved in.  She and  Jess have  only been together a year, tops.   Jess is now gone. Talli is staying with her grandparents.   Jess and Sarah were not  married.  She’s still at the house with Byron.  I doubt Jess would have changed his will to leave her the house( if it was his).  I doubt he left it to Byron  either.  Presumably Talli’s uncle or grandparents  were named as  her legal guardians. 

Why is Sarah being treated as is she was a spouse and a long term one at that? 

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15 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

The show needs to explain a couple things.  From day 1, we were led to believe the house was Talli’s grandparents.  Then they are gone, and Jess’s dad is staying  there,  then Sarah moved in.  She and  Jess have  only been together a year, tops.   Jess is now gone. Talli is staying with her grandparents.   Jess and Sarah were not  married.  She’s still at the house with Byron.  I doubt Jess would have changed his will to leave her the house( if it was his).  I doubt he left it to Byron  either.  Presumably Talli’s uncle or grandparents  were named as  her legal guardians. 

My assumption is when the grandparents were written out the writers reconned it so Jess owned the house.

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9 minutes ago, illdoc said:

I think that was "Louise" (i.e. Jess' dad's (whatever his name) new wife).

No- she left him already.   I thought it might mean Jess’s  sister.   Although I don’t know why she would be  at Jess’s in-laws.  Unless she was there for extra support for Tali.  

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On 3/25/2022 at 11:17 AM, mythoughtis said:

No- she left him already.   I thought it might mean Jess’s  sister.   Although I don’t know why she would be  at Jess’s in-laws.  Unless she was there for extra support for Tali.  

Louise is Jess' sister. I expect that the reason she was there was to help Talli. I still can't believe they killed Jess if for no other reason than not making poor Talli an orphan. Why couldn't he just ride off into the sunset. I always had the impression that the house was Jess' and the in laws were there to help raise Talli. I never liked the Jess and Sarah relationship, they really had no chemistry and they are making it seem more long term than it actually was.

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3 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I actually fell asleep before the end! Lol  The last thing I recall was the lady criminal talking to her dad and him saying he was no longer in power.  

You didn't miss much!  The plot was pretty convoluted, and I stopped following halfway through. 

Last night I noticed that Alexa Davalos only has one vocal cadence and one facial expression.  She hardly reacts to anything.  Is this a purposeful method acting technique to show FBI seriousness, or can she just not act very well? I never noticed it before because Julian McMahon was so dynamic in comparison.

Looks like Dylan McDermott will be introduced next week.  I've liked him on everything except Law and Order Organized Crime.

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Well they need someone in charge. That getting locked in the cellar stunt was like a  keystone cops routine.  I mean, where was the little voice that screams “this is crazy” when they did this?  Lol

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4 hours ago, nittany cougar said:

Last night I noticed that Alexa Davalos only has one vocal cadence and one facial expression.  She hardly reacts to anything. 

She's been doing that since she first joined the show and that's why I find the character is so unappealing. I never watch her in other show so I can't compare. Her actor husband (Josh Stewart) has the same acting technique/demeanour.

I seriously hope that Sheryll taking a time off is only temporary. If she leaves, I won't be watching anymore.

FMW season finale will be aired on May 24.

 

6 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Well they need someone in charge. That getting locked in the cellar stunt was like a  keystone cops routine.  I mean, where was the little voice that screams “this is crazy” when they did this?  Lol

No worries, the "hero" will be there for them... soon! 😂

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I don’t notice the actors or expressions that much, but unfortunately, I can’t ignore the procedural errors that ruin it for me.  Before Jess left, I did notice that he seemed to be bothered physically.  He seemed to grimace at times and his posture was off. His body seemed older than he was.  I think I then read about a back problem, which makes sense.  

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14 hours ago, UnknownK said:

Why didn't they just shoot the 2x4 holding the door shut?

Because we all know, from innumerable shootouts, that small pieces of wood are impervious to bullets.

1 hour ago, SunnyBeBe said:

I can’t ignore the procedural errors that ruin it for me.

It's always a good idea, when investigating a crime scene after multiple murders have been created by the suspects, to stand in front of the doorway when you open it.  If there's anyone in the room, they won't shoot at you, will they?

Accepting that it's a plot device, I have a hard time believing that breaking a fluorescent light tube causes sparks to fly everywhere and start a fire.  Besides which, it's a grow house.  They have a water supply, I would assume.  Put the fire out.  And why, if the other agents were so close as to rescue them, did they not pursue the bad guys?  

I like a good murder mystery and chase as much as anyone, but, after one season of this violence porn, I'm out.

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I’m not sure if it’s just lazy writing or stupid writing.  If I had a job like that, I’d really deliver.  It can’t be that difficult to bounce ideas off others and to get technical support from former FBI agents. Shoot, you could get it from any law enforcement officer. Some of it is basic 101 stuff.  It’s like they wanted agents trapped in a burning structure so much, they ignored everything else.  🙄 

Oh, and the security detail they put at the house where the nanny and kid were staying…….I’d think it would get more security than one guy who thought asking questions of the strangers was a good move. Or the nanny who wants to stroll around outside with the child.  Just unreal.  So small minded.  

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What a crazy plot!  We should have realized that the professor of Slavic languages was really a Russian Mafia don!  Also the husband at the beginning was going around shooting a zillion people--so they could get out of the life of crime!

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Well, let’s hope McDermott doesn’t run into NYC officers like Stabler or he might get shot like Jess. Lol. Just kidding (He’s been playing super villain on SVU).

Its difficult to believe that McDermont is about 7 years older than McMahon!  

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6 hours ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Well, let’s hope McDermott doesn’t run into NYC officers like Stabler or he might get shot like Jess. Lol. Just kidding (He’s been playing super villain on SVU).

Two corrections: 1) it was L&O Organized Crime and 2) he was playing a super comic book villain, emphasis on comic book.

 

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The next episode, "Covenant", introduces Agent Richard Wheatley Remy Scott:

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The team’s new leader, charming but formidable Special Agent Remy Scott, takes charge as they investigate a series of homicides tied to a forbidden love between a young teen and her older boyfriend.

 

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On 3/9/2022 at 7:04 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:

Me too, I hate Richard Wheatley. That character is hauntingly annoying. On top of that, am not a fan of the actor himself.

I wanna see the closure for Jess that the showrunner mentioned but have no idea how to get thru the next 2 episodes with Kristin leading the team, with her expressionless face and whispering voice. Ugh. 😣

I don't know that I've seen him in anything since The Practice where he hasn't sucked, and I didn't even really watch the show, just caught reruns every once in a while.

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11 minutes ago, TimetoShine said:

I don't know that I've seen him in anything since The Practice where he hasn't sucked, and I didn't even really watch the show, just caught reruns every once in a while.

Most of the shows he's been cast in as a lead haven't lasted a whole season.  For American Horror Story he was only going to be in one season of that anyway. I will say he was kind of ok in the short lived FOX sitcom from a few years ago LA to Vegas where he played a captain you wouldn't want piloting a plane you were traveling on.  When I was looking him up just now to make sure I remembered the sitcom's name correctly I saw the title of a recent NY Times article about him titled "Dylan McDermott Wants to Be a Good Guy for a Change"... 🙄

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39 minutes ago, TimetoShine said:

I don't know that I've seen him in anything since The Practice where he hasn't sucked, and I didn't even really watch the show, just caught reruns every once in a while.

I didn’t watch The Practice. I think he was okay in AHS Murder House. Maybe it’s because I dislike Connie Britton more, I found him tolerable. 😅

Countdown begins…

 

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I miss Jess. I didn't love Remy's style but I didn't hate him either. Looking forward to seeing how he does with Barnes. Jess was more cerebral... Remy strikes me as more of a tough action guy although I did like the opening scenes with the baker and the doorman. 

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I miss Jess too, but it helps me to know he is never coming back.  So I know I have to move on to Remy.  Dylan McDermott is not a favorite of mine and he was still a little L&O:OC for me — a little too snarly, feels like he’s going to “blow” any minute.  Hoping he settles in to a character I don’t mind seeing every week.  Jess wasn’t perfect and I never liked the LaCroix family focus stuff so this is a perfect chance for FBI:MW to move away from that (if the writers choose to).  

The story was pretty interesting — held my attention.  Good to see most of the crew back together.  

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And the Remy Scott era has begun.

IMO, it was a bit better than I expected. However, I did see some Wheatley seeping through. He started out kinda down to earth with his initial intro to the squad, but his seemingly put-on intensity during the investigation was a bit over done for me. 

He did come out with some comical quips throughout. LeCroix he not, so I'll have to grow into the Remy era.

On another note Pastor Bob was a piece of work and should have been castrated.

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So the Remy era has begun, and it was better than I expected - I like him and think he will be a good team leader - I didn’t care for the reveal of his tragic backstory at the end, that was cliched, and there were a few times he seemed a bit over the top, but overall I liked him and thought he gelled well with the rest of the team.

The case was really good, twisted as usual, I figured there had to be more than just 2 forbidden lovers killing their parents, but I didn’t see the cult angle coming. I liked it a lot, and I felt some sympathy for Lilly in the end, she had been totally used and brainwashed by these scumbags. I’m not sure who was worse, Pat/Vivian or Bob, both were evil human waste and it was a wild plot how they hooked up to form their cult. I like when the cases are more in depth than they first seem and this one was good in that regard, it gave us good twists and investigation. 

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I liked Dylan as Remy.  I thought he fit in well.  He is different enough from Jess that I won't be comparing them.  

I also enjoyed the storyline last night.  I liked the direction it went after what I originally thought the storyline would be.  

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I don't know....the case was weird, and I like weird. But I'm not sure I like McDermott chewing the scenery when he confronts the perps. I hope he dials it back a lot in future episodes. Unless he's trying to become a silly David-Caruso-in-CSI-Miami meme, in which case, chew away, Dylan.

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On 4/6/2022 at 1:17 PM, preeya said:

More from Dylan McDermott. He addresses his Wheatley role vs. his new Remy Scott role.

‘FBI: Most Wanted’: Dylan McDermott Addresses Fans Who Can’t See Past Richard Wheatley:

“They’re Going To See Me In A Completely Different Light”

Read it here:  https://tinyurl.com/ybz2kdlp

There's some Wheatley smutz on my FBI:Most Wanted.

McDermott is like John Wayne. You can put him in different things and call him different names and make him a bad guy or a good guy but after all is said and done he is the same guy in every role.  He is the cool and hip and entitled guy who plays by his own rules. Always. And he is the same here. There is not an iota of difference between the man I saw in this episode tonight and the Richard Wheatley OTT cartoon villain from Law and Order: OC. His motives are different and he is not a villain in FBI, but his entire attitude and persona are the same. And I hate it.

That little stunt where he takes Vivian into the room and menaces her without anyone else around to see will play out great in court. I am sure the prosecution will love that he did that. She can say anything she wants about what happened in there and there is no one who can prove otherwise.  Very stupid self-indulgent police move. But we needed to see McDermott flex and pose and prove his character is super macho guy who plays by his own set of rules.

And the plot was ridiculous. Seriously ridiculous.

Replacing Jess with a McDermott comic book cop with a mysterious and dramatic history may make this unwatchable for me. If it had been anybody but McDermott.

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S03•E17 - Covenant

Unlike Jess, Remy seems edgier and street smart. He is more like a fugitive hunter rather than a profiler. I still see some of Richard Wheatley in him, the smug on his face when he does these - shakes the clergyman’s hand, whispers that he will have a hard time at the pearly gates and when he confronts Vivian in that motel room, alone. I don’t hate Remy Scott (yet).

Re COTW, the cult story that they did back in S01•E06 (Prophet) was so much better.

I still miss Jess LaCroix! 😭

Jess was a great profiler. He was so good at finding fugitives by getting into their heads, thinking about how they’d think and feel, what their next steps will be etc. He always empathized with them. He had that ability to see the human side of those monsters. These are the reasons why I like Jess. 👍🏻

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I have to agree with Andyourlittledog2. Too much smug arrogance for the Remy character. But I have to say Remy has screen presence (ie: I did not flip away from watching the show, was quite captivated) and I came close-ish to shedding a tear when he told his my-lil-bro-got-killed story at the end. Agree it's too soon to lay on his character's tear-jerker backstory.

I would love to compare & contrast Remy's entry with Gary Cole who took over from Gibbs on NCIS starting in October 2021. Online fans seem to have taken well to the Gary Cole character on NCIS character. One big difference is that Cole's character is ~15 episodes in now and we still don't know his backstory as much as we know Remy's. Anyone else a fan of NCIS as well?

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13 minutes ago, Poohpoohpooh said:

I have to agree with Andyourlittledog2. Too much smug arrogance for the Remy character. But I have to say Remy has screen presence (ie: I did not flip away from watching the show, was quite captivated) and I came close-ish to shedding a tear when he told his my-lil-bro-got-killed story at the end. Agree it's too soon to lay on his character's tear-jerker backstory.

I would love to compare & contrast Remy's entry with Gary Cole who took over from Gibbs on NCIS starting in October 2021. Online fans seem to have taken well to the Gary Cole character on NCIS character. One big difference is that Cole's character is ~15 episodes in now and we still don't know his backstory as much as we know Remy's. Anyone else a fan of NCIS as well?

Raising hand — I am!  I have been so pleasantly surprised at how much I’m enjoying Gary Cole on NCIS.  Interesting point about the difference between Dylan’s joining the team vs. Gary’s.  I’ll be back for more FBI:MW but I hope they figure out how to keep Dylan from absolutely chewing up the scenery.  That won’t work.  This team has such strengths that each one brings — we don’t need Dylan sucking the air out of the team.

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16 hours ago, MerBearHou said:
16 hours ago, Poohpoohpooh said:

I have to agree with Andyourlittledog2. Too much smug arrogance for the Remy character. But I have to say Remy has screen presence (ie: I did not flip away from watching the show, was quite captivated) and I came close-ish to shedding a tear when he told his my-lil-bro-got-killed story at the end. Agree it's too soon to lay on his character's tear-jerker backstory.

I would love to compare & contrast Remy's entry with Gary Cole who took over from Gibbs on NCIS starting in October 2021. Online fans seem to have taken well to the Gary Cole character on NCIS character. One big difference is that Cole's character is ~15 episodes in now and we still don't know his backstory as much as we know Remy's. Anyone else a fan of NCIS as well?

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Raising hand — I am!  I have been so pleasantly surprised at how much I’m enjoying Gary Cole on NCIS.  Interesting point about the difference between Dylan’s joining the team vs. Gary’s.  I’ll be back for more FBI:MW but I hope they figure out how to keep Dylan from absolutely chewing up the scenery.  That won’t work.  This team has such strengths that each one brings — we don’t need Dylan sucking the air out of the team.

Raising hand — I am too!

And I totally agree with @merbearhou 

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You guys (as NCIS & FMW fellow viewers) are fun! From this 1 first episode with Remy, it looks like this might become "the Remyremyremy" FBI show. Contrast with the new Gary Cole-led NCIS, it did not become the Colecolecole show, but it's more of an ensemble now, where even the NCIS coroner and lab tech get to sizeable screentime.

Maybe FBW figured they scored a superstar in Dylan M, so they are making it the big Remy show (based on publicity, and this first episode).

Isn't it nuts that Dylan M is 60, while Gary Cole is 66 in real life? They both look great, but Dylan M could pass for 45-50 while some online NCIS viewers have said that Cole looks too old for a field agent.

I am definitely more drawn to the Gary Cole NCIS character.

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21 hours ago, Poohpoohpooh said:

I have to agree with Andyourlittledog2. Too much smug arrogance for the Remy character. But I have to say Remy has screen presence (ie: I did not flip away from watching the show, was quite captivated) and I came close-ish to shedding a tear when he told his my-lil-bro-got-killed story at the end. Agree it's too soon to lay on his character's tear-jerker backstory.

I would love to compare & contrast Remy's entry with Gary Cole who took over from Gibbs on NCIS starting in October 2021. Online fans seem to have taken well to the Gary Cole character on NCIS character. One big difference is that Cole's character is ~15 episodes in now and we still don't know his backstory as much as we know Remy's. Anyone else a fan of NCIS as well?

NCIS bro here 😎yeah, Gary Cole didn’t open up until several episodes later whereas Remy shares his past & the end of his 1st! He’s definitely tougher & more of a bachelor than LaCroix. A lot like Gibbs! Haha

 

I’ll miss LaCroix but I look forward to watching Remy working with the FBI:MW team!

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I was so soured on Dylan McDermott from his Wheatley character on L&O: OC that I didn't know what to expect. As some others mentioned, I was pleasantly surprised. Remy can be a little off putting when he leans in and trys to be intimidating, but I overall like the character. 

I still miss Jess but I do NOT miss his family drama which to me always slowed down the story. I just want good, smart cases of the week. Hopefully we'll have more of those now!

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