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S13.E04: Putting the Tiff in Tiffany's


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God, Leah is such a loser!   Nothing that she's said on the show has been clever yet.  She's no Bethenny.  For all of Bethenny's issues, which are legion, she is great at the snappy one-liner.  When I picture Leah on the show I just picture that long blonde hair swinging everywhere and her awful squawky scream.

Even LUANN... LUANN OF ALL PEOPLE had "Goodbye from the Lower Level!"  That was hilarious and clever.  And "Sorry I called you a pedafile" with her own unique spelling.   "How could you do this.  Question mark."  And Ramona's malapropisms are honestly hilarious.  I even tell people who don't watch the show and we all laugh about it.  But Leah has said nothing worthy of a t-shirt!

I DON'T want Dorinda back but she had good one liners too.  "I made it nice" is legendary.  But I am not part of the group that wants her back!  Her anger has spoiled everything IMO.

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37 minutes ago, Raiderred said:

I am not digging Garth, at all.  He seems to have zero personality.  He is not my definition of handsome, either, but then everyone has their opinion.  You can have him Lu.

 

35 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Have they even let Garth speak on camera?  LOL.  He could be a nice guy for all we know.  He's just there for the eye candy.

Exactly.   I'm not sure it's his personality that Luann is interested in, lol.  

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On 5/26/2021 at 7:34 AM, 65mickey said:

A couple of things about the show last night. LuAnn is still making a fool of herself over a man. She really thinks she is so special to have a boyfriend. Arguing with Sonja over whose man Tom was. If I were LuAnn I wouldn't want that name brought up ever. He was no prize. Being married to him for six months, going to Miami and getting black out drunk and getting arrested  and charged with a couple of felonies all because she was pining after this man.  So Sonja now has no access to Quincy's money? She said something about now that she is of age all of her accounts have been placed in Quincy't name. She is probably terrified that this source of income for her is running out.  Repeating what others have already said about Leah, she is vile and talking about sex at the table is one thing saying what Leah said is another thing altogether. She is vulgar and trashy. 

  

 

Vulgar and trashy...you summed it up quite well!

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12 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

 

Exactly.   I'm not sure it's his personality that Luann is interested in, lol.  

Garth looked like the kind of guy that bangs rich divorcees and uses "personal trainer" as a way to meet them and get what he can from them...sexually, financially, etc...in other words, he's a glorified gigolo.

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Leah: Trying too hard to be outrageous...her gross remark about a sexual act at the dinner table was an example of that. She's too thirsty and so combative about everything. It's exhausting. Very immature and needy. 

Sonja: Sloppy, angry drunk. No self awareness of her drinking problem and of her drunken, angry and very public outbursts...no ownership or apologies to anyone after these incidents. 

Ramona: Why are you apologizing to Sonja??? Why are you just brushing this off and acting like she didn't do anything? This is called enabling. Stop it. Be a true friend and stage an intervention...the sooner the better for Sonja.

Luann: Quit humble bragging about having a boyfriend during COVID. Big fucking deal...you banged a "personal trainer" who then dumped you. You are a 50 something year old woman who still goes gaa gaa over any guy that even gives you a second look... and then you seem to get some perverse pleasure out of sticking it to the other women who are not presently engaged in a relationship with a man. You seem to only value yourself or think you have any worth at all unless you are with a man. And Lu...please stop saying the women are jealous of your caberet act...no one is jealous of your shitty show and bad singing...just stop.

 

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On 5/25/2021 at 11:04 PM, BusyOctober said:

Whichever doctor did Sonja’s upper lip implant should have his/her/their license pulled.  Sonja’s upper lip needs its own zip code.  I don’t get why people want their mouths to look so awkwardly unnatural or so obviously messed with. 

And if he's the same doctor who did her breasts, he should be ridden out of town on a rail.  She absolutely cannot wear low-cut necklines; she has horrible scars on the underside of both breasts.

(I've been away from this show for years and started tuning in again when a couple of other reality shows (90 DF) got too complicated for me to watch.)

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4 hours ago, lasu said:

Life is short so climb that tall man like a tree.

This is a far better t-shirt slogan than anything Leah has come up with.

15 hours ago, Miss Bones said:

Eboni, saying (paraphrased) “What’s interesting in this group of women, is how they go at it, and then 5-10mins later, they’re hugging”  made me picture her saying it as Steve Irwin, talking about a group of crocodiles ready to snap (no LVP pun intended). 

I'd totally watch a Housewives nature special. Here we have the New York Housewife. You can tell her apart from the New Jersey Housewife by the superior quality of her pretentiousness and cosmetic procedures. Watch as she plumes herself for mating by wearing a statement necklace and appearing at the Hamptons . . .

49 minutes ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Leah: Trying too hard to be outrageous...her gross remark about a sexual act at the dinner table was an example of that. She's too thirsty and so combative about everything. It's exhausting. Very immature and needy. 

Exhausting is the perfect adjective for Leah. I'm sorry about her grandmother, but Leak is definitely the type to try to upstage the corpse at a funeral. I once described one of the SLC Housewives as someone who is trying to impress her inner 13 year old, but Leah is this even more so. She wants to make the rules as to who's in and who's out, she had to make herself the center of every conflict, and she confuses vulgarity with sexiness.

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8 hours ago, Emmeline said:

I can’t agree with you more.  It’s basic T-shirts, sweatshirts, caps, etc., with the mttm, bitch, I elevate this shit, don’t talk about my mental health or my vagina, emblazoned across the front. I can’t imagine who would want this garbage.  

Before the Pandemic, my husband and I went downtown in the village many times.  I’ve never seen those t- shirts or hoodies on anyone or anywhere around there.  I can’t imagine anyone wearing them.

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On 5/26/2021 at 11:25 AM, Pondlass1 said:

At least we see the RHONY gals warts and all. No makeup, crusty eyed, waking up, messy stringy hair and actually EATING!  We’d never see that on any other franchise (at least the ones I watch.. BH and OC). How they wake up after a night of boozing and go off on another booze soaked day trip is beyond me. Must have great constitutions, I’d need a week for my liver to recover.

 

Adderall

 

 

20 hours ago, ichbin said:

I'm there with you only I would add that Tinsley should be added back to that pack as well.  Leah and Sonja are act like two badly mannered brats, particularly the way each attack and mock the woman who has opened her home to them.  Leah is the ruin of this franchise and Sonja no longer adds any value.  The others might engage in petty squabbles but they would be able to deal with them maturely while still getting together for fun little events, excursions, dinners, etc...y'know, the stuff that put RH on the map because they are team players who actually seem like they want to have some fun and enjoyment along the way.  

 

I was trying to remember why I initially disliked Sonja and I was remembering when she was giving the main speech at the gay marriage rally and she wouldn't let Simon speak!  She called herself a "gay icon."  She's always been delusional.  It has just gotten worse.

She also didn't realize that she was at a gay marriage rally, specifically to rally for a change in the law, but she made no mention of the law that the rest of the speakers were discussing, she thought it was a "GAY PRIDE" parade.  

 

20 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I'm really glad that Eboni's "bitch" habit only seems to be restricted to Episode 1 where my theory is that she was just nervous being around a new crowd.  Now it's a lot of Babys, Honeys, etc. which I'm fine with.

If she didn't get along with Leah so well she'd be even more likeable.

 

Maybe she dislikes her but when she was on Satan Andy's show, she pretended to like her because she is no dummy and she knows that if Andy likes someone, everyone has to like them.  He's the queen bee, and for some reason he LOVES all of the worst housewives.

It's funny that it seems everyone here is coming together in their hate for Leah.  It brings us all together.

 

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Andy thought she would be a great addition to the show because she was edgy. What he got was sloppy.  Ebony must be mortified now that she befriended her.  I think she keeps throwing dow her food because of nerves being around Leah, especially after the Audrey dinner party.  A new low from Miss Edgy.  Ramona had to open her house to her also and didn’t like it I’m sure.  Leah just came in and took over.  Andy should throw off Leah and get some nice men on the scene. All these women do is bitch about each other.  They have no lives but drinking, eating and pooping.

 

 

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I would suggest that you don't ask for anything from Leah's website as a birthday gift.  Almost every t-shirt and hoodie uses the word "bitch" or other kind of trashy sayings.

https://mttmnyc.com/

Well I guess I can't buy of this. It all goes against my dress code at work:  and I work at home!

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Andy thought she would be a great addition to the show because she was edgy. What he got was sloppy.

If Andy likes Leah so much why not put her on a show that makes more sense for her age group? Like a pre-school type thing? Come to think of it, my nieces were more mature than her when they were pre-schoolers. Nevermind. 

Regardless, Leah doesn't fit in on this show at all. And honestly, if Andy keeps Leah around and offloads Ramona or Lu (or both) - I am out.

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After a few years of not watching the Jersey Housewives, I started watching again out of desperation.  At least Jersey has story lines.  Four episodes in of N.Y. and all we have is Sonja breaking down and the show getting more raunchy because of Leah.  Bravo had better go to the drawing board.  Ebony isn’t the answer, unfortunately.  They need more of something, or less of someone.

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55 minutes ago, heatherchandler said:

At least we see the RHONY gals warts and all. No makeup, crusty eyed, waking up, messy stringy hair and actually EATING!  We’d never see that on any other franchise (at least the ones I watch.. BH and OC). How they wake up after a night of boozing and go off on another booze soaked day trip is

I tried to watch BH a few times, but just can’t.  They all are too pretentious.  The clothes, makeup, jewelry .. I just cannot relate.

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1 hour ago, Hangin Out said:

Andy thought she would be a great addition to the show because she was edgy.

I hate to see people trying to be edgy.  Either you are, or you aren't.   It's like Carol trying to be edgy by talking about anal sex.   There are so many topics that just aren't shocking anymore.  Just be yourself, ladies!  I wonder what Leah is really like around her other friends.  

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3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

I hate to see people trying to be edgy.  Either you are, or you aren't.   It's like Carol trying to be edgy by talking about anal sex.   There are so many topics that just aren't shocking anymore.  Just be yourself, ladies!  I wonder what Leah is really like around her other friends.  

I doubt she has any friends.  Just her sister, and she seems ready to drop her.

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10 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Luann: Quit humble bragging about having a boyfriend during COVID. Big fucking deal...you banged a "personal trainer" who then dumped you. You are a 50 something year old woman who still goes gaa gaa over any guy that even gives you a second look... and then you seem to get some perverse pleasure out of sticking it to the other women who are not presently engaged in a relationship with a man. You seem to only value yourself or think you have any worth at all unless you are with a man. And Lu...please stop saying the women are jealous of your caberet act...no one is jealous of your shitty show and bad singing...just stop.

THE PERFECT POST.

 

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8 hours ago, Hangin Out said:

Andy should throw off Leah and get some nice men on the scene. 

Oh! You are onto something. You know how that random man told Sonja that she had an amazing body? 
I suspect production told/paid him to say that to her. Sonja practically wept with joy.

Production should hire attractive men/actors/escorts to court these women. There might be some legal snags (prostitution, etc.), but it would be entertaining to watch these women work themselves up into a tizzy. They’d need to space it out/stagger it, or it would be too much.

Also, I wish there were younger children on this show. I love Dorit’s and Crystal’s children on RHOBH.

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12 hours ago, heatherchandler said:

It's funny that it seems everyone here is coming together in their hate for Leah.  It brings us all together.

It really does give me a warm, fuzzy feeling.

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15 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

And Lu...please stop saying the women are jealous of your caberet act...no one is jealous of your shitty show and bad singing...just stop.

Okay that was hilarious though!  Of course her cabaret act wasn't relevant to the situation but of course she had to mention it.  This is why I just can't quit Lu. 

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On 5/26/2021 at 12:21 PM, Natalie68 said:

I like Eboni but she isn't going to swoop in and solve anything.  She is beautiful though.  Looks super young with no makeup. 

 

Eboni looked so fresh faced without makeup and then we see Leah looking all haggard and scary with no makeup. What a contrast!

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1 hour ago, MissFeatherbottom said:

Eboni looked so fresh faced without makeup and then we see Leah looking all haggard and scary with no makeup. What a contrast!

She really did!  Beautiful woman.  I am really surprised Eboni and Leah are friends.  Leah is A LOT.  A LOT that needs to find a different show.

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10 hours ago, izabella said:

I can't believe no one has mentioned Ramona skipping outside to work out like Molly Shannon on SNL. 

I missed this dammit!  Well, another reason to do a rewatch.  :-)

6 hours ago, ladle said:

Okay that was hilarious though!  Of course her cabaret act wasn't relevant to the situation but of course she had to mention it.  This is why I just can't quit Lu. 

It reminded me of last year (?) when Lu left to "take a walk" to find and admire her own show poster, lol.  She is her greatest fan.

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22 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Garth looked like the kind of guy that bangs rich divorcees and uses "personal trainer" as a way to meet them and get what he can from them...sexually, financially, etc...in other words, he's a glorified gigolo.

I don't think that's fair - we have no idea if Garth is like that or not. He doesn't do much for me, and obviously, the relationship with Lu wasn't that serious, but I don't think it is really fair to accuse him of being a gigolo without knowing anything other than the fact that he's a personal trainer and he dated Luann. 

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8 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I don't think that's fair - we have no idea if Garth is like that or not. He doesn't do much for me, and obviously, the relationship with Lu wasn't that serious, but I don't think it is really fair to accuse him of being a gigolo without knowing anything other than the fact that he's a personal trainer and he dated Luann. 

Any reputable personal trainer wouldn't be banging his clients...just sayin'.

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30 minutes ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Any reputable personal trainer wouldn't be banging his clients...just sayin'.

I don't think she was a client. She said they met on a dating app. But, you know, he's still allowed to lead her and her friends in a work out without being accused of prostitution... just sayin'.

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3 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I don't think she was a client. She said they met on a dating app. But, you know, he's still allowed to lead her and her friends in a work out without being accused of prostitution... just sayin'.

True, but he also got to be on TV and get exposure - there's other compensation besides money.   He's probably not an actual gigolo but I think it's a good guess that the relationship was transactional.   

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4 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I don't think she was a client. She said they met on a dating app. But, you know, he's still allowed to lead her and her friends in a work out without being accused of prostitution... just sayin'.

I got your snark...using my words. We'll just have to agree to disagree.

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19 hours ago, hypnotoad said:

Regardless, Leah doesn't fit in on this show at all. And honestly, if Andy keeps Leah around and offloads Ramona or Lu (or both) - I am out.

Unfortunately, I think this is where the show is going and these seem like "transitional seasons" where Leah will be introducing younger women to the group. I think Ramona and LuAnn know exactly what's up and that's why all of a sudden they're "friends", guaranteeing they'll have more scenes by filming together. 

I don't hate Leah but she doesn't belong here, however, I don't fault her for reading all of the things Heather had been saying about Lu and Sonja. I mean, Heather knew exactly what she was implying about the drugs' allegations and she knew that by mentioning LuAnn her little podcast would get at least a few more clicks; if she thinks there's nothing genuine about the Countess then why come back to the show? Why give her a speech about wanting to hang out more again? Let's be honest, she does want that fame/platform so she needed to kiss the ring. 

 

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41 minutes ago, Cosmocrush said:

True, but he also got to be on TV and get exposure - there's other compensation besides money.   He's probably not an actual gigolo but I think it's a good guess that the relationship was transactional.   

Sure, and it's fine to think that. Obviously it wasn't a romance for the ages. But that's still a bit far away from prostitution, which is what being a gigolo is.

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On 5/26/2021 at 7:23 AM, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

As much of Sonja that is a god awful mess all I see first is that her surgeon ruined her nose and mouth, it's  a crime. 

She looks like someone gave her a fat lip during a fight.  

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17 hours ago, izabella said:

I can't believe no one has mentioned Ramona skipping outside to work out like Molly Shannon on SNL. 

I have to admit I found Ramona very cute skipping out for the workout.  I’m pro Ramona this season more so than previous seasons.  It might be because Leah seems to have it out for her.

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50 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

I have to admit I found Ramona very cute skipping out for the workout.  I’m pro Ramona this season more so than previous seasons.  It might be because Leah seems to have it out for her.

I know that our Noodle can be a nut, and I don't always agree with how she comes across to hotel staff (and others), but I think that her happy-go-lucky attitude really helped her get through Mario's infidelity and their divorce.  I wish that Sonja would adopt that attitude.  I know it would be easier if Sonja wasn't struggling financially, but it seems like there are so many things she could do to help herself, given all of the people she knows through this show.   It's getting really sad watching her go off the rails.  

You're right, Emmeline.  The more Leah goes after Ramona (or anybody), then I will automatically take that person's side.  I hope that Eboni can distance herself from Leah long enough to make her own opinions on the ladies.  I hate that Leah is constantly whispering in her ear about them.  

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2 hours ago, ChitChat said:

I know that our Noodle can be a nut, and I don't always agree with how she comes across to hotel staff (and others), but I think that her happy-go-lucky attitude really helped her get through Mario's infidelity and their divorce.  I wish that Sonja would adopt that attitude.  I know it would be easier if Sonja wasn't struggling financially, but it seems like there are so many things she could do to help herself, given all of the people she knows through this show.   It's getting really sad watching her go off the rails.  

Sonja has had the opportunity to use the money from this show in two important ways that would help her sleep better at night.  First, she needs a really good therapist, and lots of appointments with him or her.   It would be worth every penny.

Then, she needs a good financial advisor who can tell her to cut her spending on mystical cleanses, excessive plastic surgery and going out on the town drinking.   The stock market has been doing really well, and she could have made some nice profits just investing her Bravo salary in indexed mutual funds. 

She had a golden opportunity to sign a marketing deal with some toaster oven manufacturer to slap her "Sonja with a sexy J" name on it and do exactly what she's doing with "her" lifestyle fashion brand,.  She could have had years of being a toaster oven madame, with "her" own cookbook and cute little aprons and oven mitts and things. 

Kristin's husband and Heather could have helped her and even tried,  and Ramona is no slouch at running whatever business helped her make bank, but Sonja never got a good therapist and is a mess so she couldn't take advantage of her opportunities.  She needs to get her act together because this show will end someday.

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Ramona is being such a good friend to Lu.

Sonja is such an ingrate.

Lu, the girlS are not all jealous that you have a boyfriend during COVID. Sonja, probably. Not the others. And why does that make you happy?

Oh, I just realized that the blonde woman sitting to the right of Lu in the van is Leah!! I honestly didn’t recognize her because she wasn’t flailing and gesturing wildly and demanding attention!

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They didn’t look very good, dressed as “Holly Golightly.”

No one got the dress right. Lu’s zipper was doing somersaults and made her look heavy. Ramona’s zipper was also problematic. Her dress was probably closest to paying homage to HG’s dress but was very blah.

Eboni wore the prettiest black dress.

Lu ignored the memo in order to wear a it’s-always-about-Lu statement necklace.

Sonja, as usual, was a hot mess. Her updo was the best, but she wore the wrong hair band. And were those cork or espadrille platform sandals? Lace bell sleeves. Idiot floozy.

Ramona, Eboni, and Sonja had the best hair.

None of them have the arms to pull off Holly Golightly.

I guess Ramona wore it best.

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They should’ve mixed it up. As someone posted upthread, Leah should have dressed in a man’s tuxedo shirt with eyelash eyeshade and tassel earplugs.(Reese Witherspoon wore that in BLL.) Someone should have worn the huge black hat with ivory scarf prison visit outfit. Someone should’ve worn the drenched trench coat. Red/orange spring coat shopping outfit with tiny black hat. And how did Lu overlook the chance to wear her huge black shades?

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On 5/26/2021 at 6:20 PM, biakbiak said:

Well since her husband never used it and no one recognized it as a title that would have been even more ridiculous than LuAnn and she would have been rightfully dragged.

Eh, she’s still silly. The count’s title isn’t recognized by France. None have been since they became a republic in the 1870s. 
 

and I just can’t quit Ramona. She can be so awful but then be so entertaining. I just think about people who’ve left who say she keeps in touch or was such a good friend when the cameras were off like when bethenny was sick with the uterine bleeding. She’s probably one of the more ‘full characters’ in the franchises. 
 

and co-signing to everyone who can’t stand Leah. I liked her in her first episodes but that quickly evaporated. She’s especially awful this season and I doubt she’ll improve. She really is, as others have said, the Brandi of this franchise. 

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On 5/27/2021 at 4:38 PM, Mothra said:

She absolutely cannot wear low-cut necklines; she has horrible scars on the underside of both breasts.

I've also been thinking it looks like scarring and notice it every time she does the TH in that dress.  If it were scarring from an accident or an operation for medical need I wouldn't think any thing of it, but since it appears to be a result of breast augmentation which is usually done for enhancement I'm surprised she doesn't keep it covered.  It's certainly low enough that she could still wear something cut very low down and still leave that part covered.  

On 5/27/2021 at 6:05 PM, Hangin Out said:

Andy thought she would be a great addition to the show because she was edgy. What he got was sloppy.

I suspect it had more to do with getting someone who had a social media presence and podcast audience that they were hoping would bolster a different viewer demographic for the show.  I maintain my opinion that those people are not TV viewers as a rule.  I think production at Bravo liked her being a fly in the ointment last season, but have a feeling they might be seeing her through less rose colored glasses this season.  I've noticed a definite downward trend in support for her this season judging by what I've been reading in various online forums and blogs.    

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On 5/26/2021 at 9:33 PM, Cosmocrush said:

Same and for the same reasons.  

I'll admit to going back and watching after reading here and once you know what to look for it's pretty obvious(it's in the first scene, restaurant, white jeans).  First Ramona notices it when Sonja stands up with her back to Ramona; you can tell by the look on R's face, lol.    Then, when they are all standing around Sonja's back is to the camera and she very obviously had some sort of  uh, situation going on there but seems completely oblivious to it.   She's a mess.  

I didn’t notice it on first watch either but after reading your post, I checked again and did see it. Yikes. 

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On 5/27/2021 at 10:44 PM, heatherchandler said:

I doubt she has any friends.  Just her sister, and she seems ready to drop her.

Or, maybe Andy has designs to bring her Sister and all their edgy friends into the mix.  Then, the rest might go.  It could be the start of a new younger show.  I hope not.  Like another Vanderpump Rules.  For the younger edgy types.  It seems like LuAnn and Sonja are struggling.  Ramona is keeping up the pace for now.

 

 

 

 

 

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On 5/26/2021 at 4:03 PM, Hangin Out said:

She would be an embarrassment to his uppity friends.  Plus some of them have little children.  Benjamin for instance.

She's a circus animal to Andy. That's it. She amuses his "creep". He's twisted.

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On 5/26/2021 at 10:30 AM, Carolina Girl said:

I'm this close to the DVR delete and with that goes my last Bravo show.  

You make a great point.  I have lost my taste for Bravo shows and this one is also my last one.  I am not close to leaving NYC yet but, should I, there will be nothing left on it for me.

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Leah is hella immature. She acts like a teenager begging for attention.

Sonja is nuts. And they need to stop coddling her. Lu was right to go off on her. I very much doubt the Morgan's consider Sonja family. 😐 She sounds so delusional when she goes on about her "family" 

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Rewatching I realize even Leah’s grandmother musn’t like her the mom hasn’t hasn’t tried to get her to see grandma alone like her creepy sister and brother. 

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