FBI: International

[JPPT1974]

Hope she is not leaving and love Jaeger. And really her boss just really had it in for her no matter how many times she solved cases, it seems nothing was ever good for him. And he targeted her for little to no reason without backing it up with substance.

[NeenerNeener]

Finally got time to watch this and had a 'Hey, it's that guy!" moment. The actor who played the lead scientist played Lionel the a*hole in the "Restricted Intelligence" videos we had to watch at work as part of cybersecurity training.

[MerBearHou]

Two Dick Wolf shows dealing with oxy cases in one week.  Important story for sure, but the repetition was noticeable to me (same with his 2 con woman Inventing Anna episodes in one week).  This was just sad to watch.  Definitely figured out the bad guy pretty early on.  But a good episode. And I liked the ending with the douchey guy getting fired and Katrin stays on.  

[Xeliou66]

Good episode - the case was a bit dull in parts but the satisfying ending made up for it, I loved seeing Katrin get her job back while her douche of a boss was fired, and the case wrapped up in a satisfying way as well - I knew the security head would be a bad guy but it was still a good case. This show has improved as it has gone on I think, I wasn’t so high on it at first but I’m enjoying it now.

[MerBearHou]

12 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

Good episode - the case was a bit dull in parts but the satisfying ending made up for it, I loved seeing Katrin get her job back while her douche of a boss was fired, and the case wrapped up in a satisfying way as well - I knew the security head would be a bad guy but it was still a good case. This show has improved as it has gone on I think, I wasn’t so high on it at first but I’m enjoying it now.

Ditto here.  I just couldn’t get into FBI:International for quite awhile - something about it seemed low-energy and a little boring.  I’ve enjoyed the last few episodes much more.

[JPPT1974]

Glad Jaeger kept her job. She is the only one that Scott and the team seem to respect and in the interagency cooperation there. That can outtalk the team as well as bring calm to the FBI Fly Team! As she firmly but yet motherly calls out Scott at times, on his arrogance. She is like the mother figure there.

But anyway can't wait for next week the finale. A Scott centered episode.

[theschnauzers]

I just noticed this, but the show was renewed for both seasons 2 and 3, per the Futon Critic.

[CheshireCat]

On 3/30/2022 at 1:27 AM, preeya said:

Does every person in these FBI foreign venues speak almost perfect English? There's never a language barrier.

I had the same thought. Sure, a lot of Europeans speak English but they don't all speak it that well.

On 4/27/2022 at 7:40 AM, shrewd.buddha said:

Scott (Forrester?) has some serious boundary issues.  He is having an on/off affair with his subordinate,  then he is on the verge of starting an affair with his language tutor.  
The tutor made the right call to put an end to his drama (tho the writers made her as suspicious as possible, so his reaction was not completely out of line).

I got suspicious of her, too, because usually characters like her are either love interests or they have an agenda. But when that turned out not to be the case and she ended the relationship, I wondered what the purpose of introducing her was. She wasn't a bad guy and she was a maybe-love-interest for two episodes. Why?

On 5/18/2022 at 12:12 AM, Xeliou66 said:

Good episode - the case was a bit dull in parts but the satisfying ending made up for it, I loved seeing Katrin get her job back while her douche of a boss was fired,

I'm glad she's staying because I like her but I wish they wouldn't have fired her boss. If I understood correctly, he wasn't dirty, just an opportunist, so why did he get fired? Was that part of Scott's request? If so, then I think it's a bit too vindictive. Sure, the guy was a pain in the butt (to put it nicely) but I would have found it more satisfying if he had been fired because he screwed up rather than because someone powerful owed Scott a favor.

 

I'm glad the show was renewed but I really hope they're going to do better research next season. The second Germany/Berlin episode was as badly researched as the first. A private and foreign security firm that's allowed to carry guns in Germany? Yeah, I don't think so. And they completely ignored the Berlin police when they are much more present than the federal police. (The federal police gets mentioned so rarely that I keep forgetting Germany has one).
The sirens on the police cars also sounded wrong and if you talk about drug crimes in Berlin, you have to talk about the "clans". They're basically, the East European and Turkish versions of the mafia which have been establishing themselves in Berlin for the past couple of years.

I guess, they have to stick to a certain investigative formula since the target audience is American but I'd still like it if they emphasized a bit more the differences between how investigations are run in European countries and in the US. I think there's also potential there for storytelling, if there's an exchange of investigative methods and also laws that they come up against that they're not used to in the US, for example. It could give them a new perspective as well, might force them to think outside the box and help them grow as investigators.

I still like the characters and the pace of the show.

[WendyCR72]

The finale for this show and FBI: Most Wanted will air as scheduled, but the original FBI has had its finale pulled tonight due to today's Texas school shooting. No word from CBS as to when it will air.

A repeat will air, and then the other two finales.

[Xeliou66]

So is Jaeger leaving the show? I’ll really miss her if she is, she’s my favorite character. I hope this isn’t the last we see of her.

This was an intense episode, but it was much more spy thriller than crime procedural and action scenes took precedent over detective work, and those kinds of episodes are not my favorite. So I guess the start of next season will deal with the remaining brother who was seen spying on the team at the end? What exactly does he want with them?

I don’t give a rat’s ass about Forrester’s mom or his backstory.

Nice to see Tank make an appearance at the end.

[theschnauzers]

There was only the one line, but it was appropriate to hear a reference to the war in Ukraine.

The fact  that the defector was doing so because of the war was at least timely.

Even if Tank isn’t otherwise involved with the episode, he should always be in the last scene. You know, like the Reagan Sunday dinner.

[JPPT1974]

So far have not read her leaving the show and really the main reason I watch is she is awesome Jaeger that is!

[jabRI]

On 5/24/2022 at 11:21 PM, Xeliou66 said:

I don’t give a rat’s ass about Forrester’s mom or his backstory.

I love the actress, but it's a really crappy role for her. Like if she knew she wasn't going to leave with that guy, why start the whole chain of events that could have ended up with her son in danger? In general, I don't like the vibe from these people, hard to get invested in what happens to them.

[illdoc]

FBI: I Fall Premiere Sep 20: https://tvline.com/2022/06/23/cbs-fall-premiere-dates-2022-list-ghosts-ncis-young-sheldon/

[WendyCR72]

A cast member exits ahead of Season 2.

[Xeliou66]

4 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

A cast member exits ahead of Season 2.

I will miss Jaeger, she was my favorite character on this show. I just can’t connect with the main characters on this show as much as on the other 2 FBI’s for some reason, the show got better as season 1 went on, but I just can’t connect with the main characters as much, and Jaeger was my favorite. 

[Kemper]

I saw the picture of the actress who will (sadly) be replacing Jaeger. She seems younger, so I suspect she will become a love interest; and will have more camera time than her predecessor. Jaeger was one of the best parts of the show; I wonder why she left.

[JPPT1974]

Hope that this woman can replace Jaeger and do her justice. I think that the actress, Christine Paul did not want to be tied to a show for in the long run. Hope that the new Europol agent will not be a love interest. Jaeger was like a mother figure and one of the very few that was not intimidated by Scott and his team. And one of the very few who could outtalk the team when their arrogance gets out of control. 

[CheshireCat]

Solid premiere. I like that Scott knows the new liason. That makes it easier because the team is not suspicious of her and she doesn't have to prove herself.

I appreciated that the French were welcoming and not territorial or hostile as many of the foreign police tend to be on that show. That was a nice change.

[Xeliou66]

Yeah this was a decent premiere, interesting enough case, and I also liked how the French authorities weren’t hostile and there wasn’t a territorial pissing match between Forrester’s team and the locals. I’m not sure about the new liaison, I miss Jaeger, I hope they don’t try to make the new liaison a love interest for Forrester, I’m afraid they’ll do that.

[CheshireCat]

1 hour ago, Xeliou66 said:

 I’m not sure about the new liaison, I miss Jaeger, I hope they don’t try to make the new liaison a love interest for Forrester, I’m afraid they’ll do that.

Either that or they're going the love-triangle route with Jamie. I liked the way the conversations were written and acted here, there seemed more interest than jealousy and the fact that Scott knows her makes it easier to introduce her to us. But just because there's no jealousy now doesn't mean there won't be later.

I also wish they would have kept Jaeger. Was it me or was Jaeger not as much in the field and more in the background, doing the actual liasing between the FBI and the locals?

[SnazzyDaisy]

Am giving this show another chance as am so sick of watching Dylan McDermott in FMW. I’d rather watch Scott Forrester than Remy Scott.

An interesting premiere with great stunts by Luke Kleintank.

The name Smitty reminds me of the lazy cop from The Rookie. 

Jamie is so predictable, asking Scott about Smitty and asking Smitty about Scott. We know what you’re doing girl…😆

And the best part is… the adorable TANK!

😍😍😍

[CheshireCat]

4 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Am giving this show another chance as am so sick of watching Dylan McDermott in FMW. I’d rather watch Scott Forrester than Remy Scott.

Most Wanted is the only FBI I don't watch. It's a bit too gruesome/violent for my taste. At least the episodes that I watched were that way.

International could tone down the shootings, too, if you ask me but it's still less brutal.

[Maverick]

 I liked Jaeger as well and don't understand why they did that whole plot about her being fired, only to swoop in and have her turn the tables on her boss if they were just going to write her off anyway.  Seeing her replacement, I have to wonder if they changed the character so they could drop in someone with an English accent vs. a German one.

 What was the deal with Scott's mom at the beginning?  The last I remember Scott was supposed to lure her into a trap but he warned off.   At least some of the scenes in that montage were new so was this supposed to be ending that plot thread?

[JPPT1974]

Really think that Jaeger was meant for just one season but really kind of warmed up to the new Europol agent. As really what I like about Jaeger is she would call the team in particular Scott out on his arrogance at times. Not be afraid to do so when others would. Hope that the new agent will do just that and not make her a love interest.

[SnazzyDaisy]

On 9/23/2022 at 11:03 AM, CheshireCat said:

Most Wanted is the only FBI I don't watch. It's a bit too gruesome/violent for my taste. At least the episodes that I watched were that way.

Started watching FMW because of Julian McMahon and I like its darker tone. Its high casts turnover rate and the new lead that really turn me off. “Leaving for creative reasons” sounds fishy when there’s no new project in line.

Other than Katrin and Tank, I really like Vo in F/International, hope she stays.

Edited September 24, 2022 by SnazzyDaisy

[CheshireCat]

23 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Started watching FMW because of Julian McMahon and I like it’s darker tone.

Yeah, he's why I had a look :-)

23 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Its high casts turnover rate and the new lead that really turn me off. “Leaving for creative reasons” sounds fishy when there’s no new project in line.

I always took "creative reasons" to mean that the actor and showrunners had a different vision of where the character was going and/or the show in general.

[threebluestars]

I was so sure we were going to get some kind of reveal that the teen girl was in on something and the mom was right in some way, so colour me surprised that they didn't go there. A twist that wasn't surprised me lol.

[mythoughtis]

Given the fact that the new Interpol  agent is now aware of the relationship between Forrester and Jamie and still wants to be apartment mates with her, I think there’s not going to be a love triangle.  Thank goodness!  
There is  something different about Forrester  this season? Thinner?  Beard is different?  

[Maverick]

 His hair is longer.

[MerBearHou]

12 hours ago, Maverick said:

 His hair is longer.

I think he looks better with this little longer hair.

[Maverick]

I agree. 

[Xeliou66]

This was a good episode - I didn’t see it coming that Brian would be the perp, I figured the victim’s in-laws did it. Interesting case and good investigation. I still miss Jaeger though, and I missed Vo as well tonight. And Smitty just isn’t that compelling to me, and I’m still worried about the possibility of a love triangle between Smitty/Forrester and Kellett.

I didn’t see last week’s episode because of hurricane coverage here in Florida, so who were the people with Forrester and Tank at the beginning and end? I was puzzled about that. Always nice to see Tank though.

[SnazzyDaisy]

S02•E03 - Money Is Meaningless

The accountant did it? 😱

I really thought the father in-law (or his goon) is the killer.

Nice take down Jamie Kellett. So much better than Kristin’s on FMW.

Tank doing the high five is the cutest thing ever! 😍

Is this the guy who’s hiding in the dog sitter’s house - Vladislav the Russian assassin? 🤨

Edited October 12, 2022 by SnazzyDaisy

[CheshireCat]

3 hours ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

I really thought the father in-law (or his goon) is the killer.

21 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

This was a good episode - I didn’t see it coming that Brian would be the perp, I figured the victim’s in-laws did it.

I thought the father-in-law was way too obvious. It was going to be either the husband or the accountant; the moment they introduced the accountant I wondered if it was him. He seemed way too unsuspicious and it was kind of a random character they introduced.

Nice twist though that it turned out to be Jamie who ended up being in real danger.

I thought that was a weird phone call between Smitty and Vo. Why did Smitty call her in the first place and especially during her time off and what was all this about it being all Smitty's fault? I felt like there was a huge chunk of backstory missing that would explain the entire call.

Solid case otherwise and I liked the ambiguity of how the agents viewed the actions of the Spanish police. They may have said one thing but it seemed more benefit of the doubt than being convinced of what they were saying.

[Maverick]

 The Smitty call to Vo made no sense.  Is Vo her therapist now?   Also didn't get who the kid and mom were.  Were they introduced last season?   It's about as confusing as that montage with Scott's mom in the premiere that I still haven't figured out what it was supposed to be about.   

[JPPT1974]

Think that they are going to involve Smitty more than Jaeger was involved as really still missed the latter but love the former as well.

[Xeliou66]

This episode was another one that was more of spy thriller than a crime story, and those episodes are not my favorites. I just found myself not caring at all about the whole plot to get the spy out of Turkey. And I’m still lost on who was with Forrester playing with Tank at the start of the episode - I missed episode 2 and I guess that’s when that plot was introduced. 

[SnazzyDaisy]

S02•E04 - Copper Pots and Daggers

The Fly Team is risking it all to rescue that spy but she doesn’t seem to be very grateful of it.

With all that happened, what if they need to work with Turkish police again in the near future?

Scott is suspicious of Zsolt’s dad and asks Jamie to run a full background check on him. What will Jamie discover? 🤨

[shrewd.buddha]

Happened to catch this past one - no longer watching regularly - and I felt sort of lost.

Is the US on bad terms with Turkey? Would any of the FBI team (or any FBI agent) not be arrested if they returned to the country?
I thought they were planning to use spy-like espionage tactics to get the woman out of jail.  Bu they were caught red-handed and ended up on the verge of a shoot-out ... but apparently the Turkish police don't have guns. 

They woman the FBI-I team rescued was an actual spy who, despite loving her 'adopted' family, had been lying to them.  And Forrester, who has major spy-mommy issues,  wants the boyfriend/partner to forgive and forget?!?

They did not exactly seem like the good guys in this one..  .. but I suppose the Turkish police were worse since they were corrupt and maybe Turkey needs to be spied on ...(?)

Edited October 12, 2022 by shrewd.buddha
grammar

[CheshireCat]

3 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

Is the US on bad terms with Turkey?

They're not on bad terms per se but the relationship is such that they'd arrest a spy, throw them in jail on false charges and the US would have to make serious concessions to get them back, if Turkey would give them back at all.

3 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

 Bu they were caught red-handed and ended up on the verge of a shoot-out ... but apparently the Turkish police don't have guns.

Most British police officers don't carry guns, so it's possible not everyone with the Turkish police is carrying guns.

3 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:

They did not exactly seem like the good guys in this one..  .. but I suppose the Turkish police were worse since they were corrupt and maybe Turkey needs to be spied on ...(?)

If I were the US (or any European country), I'd definitely spy on Turkey.

[CheshireCat]

Overall, it was a good episode but there were a lot of plot holes in it/they took a lot of liberties.

At every airport I've been to, I was able to see my suitcase as soon as it came out of the x-ray tunnel and on the security footage you can see the partner watch the suitcases. So why didn't they see the officer remove it and/or get suspicious when he did and check the suitcase? And how was the security officer able to be sure that it was really her suitcase? She could just as well have had her partner's for whatever reason or they could have had two shared suitcases, like my parents always do.

I'm pretty sure the Turkish, just like many other Europeans, build stone homes. Don't ask me what the walls are made out of/how they're built, I just know they're not built out of wood and dry-wall.

Why is Forester briefing the partner in a public hotel space about a "need to know" subject and not in a secure room at the embassy? He could and should be fired for this. (Why aren't the partner and daughter at the embassy anyway? There is no guarantee that the police would not pick them up and use them as leverage. It's stupid to leave them at a hotel where they are exposed and not keep them at the embassy where they're out of reach for the Turkish authorities).

Emily can't be a very good spy if she meets her source in a public space with security cameras... That aside, why did Forester not think it necessary to inform Jamie that the police was likely moving in on the source?

Why did they not use embassy cars/cars with diplomatic plates to escape? I believe they'd be off-limits to Turkish law enforcement. At least, they wouldn't have been stopped for a traffic violation. 

Not a plot hole but still a question I have: who moves in with someone else and clears out the cupboard to put in their own stuff without discussing it with the other person first? Smitty didn't even ask what it was or if Jamie used it, she just moved Jamie's stuff out to put in hers. She's lucky she's not moving in with me because I would not have stood by without a word and let her do it. (Also, Smitty went straight to that cupboard and didn't open a wrong door first).

Jamie remarked about the many things Smitty had... didn't they talk about that beforehand?

[mythoughtis]

I didn’t like the episode.  Not at all realistic.  Pretty sure the FBI doesn’t get involved in breaking spies from foreign jails.  Wouldn’t that be the CIA?  
 

As to the partner- I would  turn my back on this woman in a heartbeat.  She brought him and his child to Turkey to spy.  She used them as cover  She put them both in danger.  It wasn’t just that she lied to him about everything ( he knew only her cover study, not her real one). For all he knows, she has a husband and a child in her ‘real’ life.  As in Joelle on NCIS:LA. 

If you want to be a spy, fine, be one.  Don’t intertwine that with being a step-mother to an innocent child in your cover persona. 

Edited October 14, 2022 by mythoughtis

[CheshireCat]

4 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

I didn’t like the episode.  Not at all realistic.  Pretty sure the FBI doesn’t get involved in breaking spies from foreign jails.  Wouldn’t that be the CIA?  

I wondered about that, too, but figured, maybe they didn't want to involve the CIA so that the authorities don't get suspicious?

The FBI team didn't know she was a spy, so I think they went there believing they'd be able to get her out the legal way.

4 hours ago, mythoughtis said:

If you want to be a spy, fine, be one.  Don’t intertwine that with being a step-mother to an innocent child in your cover persona. 

They said they had been in a relationship for 6 years. I don't know how long she's worked as a spy but I wasn't under the impression that she entered the relationship so she'd have a cover family and she said herself that one had nothing to do with the other.

That said, I do agree that she should not have taken her family to go on such a trip. If she wanted to make a family trip out of it, they should have gone to one of the neighboring countries and she should have met with the source somewhere along the border or in a town close to the border and it should have been a day trip.

[mythoughtis]

20 minutes ago, CheshireCat said:

I wondered about that, too, but figured, maybe they didn't want to involve the CIA so that the authorities don't get suspicious?

The FBI team didn't know she was a spy, so I think they went there believing they'd be able to get her out the legal way.

They said they had been in a relationship for 6 years. I don't know how long she's worked as a spy but I wasn't under the impression that she entered the relationship so she'd have a cover family and she said herself that one had nothing to do with the other.

That said, I do agree that she should not have taken her family to go on such a trip. If she wanted to make a family trip out of it, they should have gone to one of the neighboring countries and she should have met with the source somewhere along the border or in a town close to the border and it should have been a day trip.

Her partner knew her as the identity she was using as a spy, not her real identity.  In addition, she told Forrester she had been working to turn her contact for over 5 years.  Those two facts mean she was a spy before she started the relationship  with  the man and his child.   The character may think her personal and professional life have nothing to do with each other. Because she thinks that means her partner is innocent.  Her partner is innocent, but that doesn’t mean it was okay to develop a long term relationship  with a small child under false pretenses.  

Edited October 15, 2022 by mythoughtis

[cameron]

On 10/5/2022 at 5:09 PM, SnazzyDaisy said:

S02•E03 - Money Is Meaningless

The accountant did it? 😱

I really thought the father in-law (or his goon) is the killer.

Nice take down Jamie Kellett. So much better than Kristin’s on FMW.

Tank doing the high five is the cutest thing ever! 😍

Is this the guy who’s hiding in the dog sitter’s house - Vladislav the Russian assassin? 🤨

Who are those people with Tank?  Has he been retired from the FBI.

[SnazzyDaisy]

1 hour ago, cameron said:

Who are those people with Tank?  Has he been retired from the FBI.

Tank is still an active member of the Fly Team.

That boy, Zsolt the dog sitter and his mom, am guessing they are Scott's neighbour.

[cameron]

47 minutes ago, SnazzyDaisy said:

Tank is still an active member of the Fly Team.

That boy, Zsolt the dog sitter and his mom, am guessing they are Scott's neighbour.

Thanks.

[JPPT1974]

Yeah as really wished they would use Tank more often but that is just me. Really they are not letting Tank being active there. Need more Tank!

[Rickster]

On 10/14/2022 at 3:54 AM, CheshireCat said:

I'm pretty sure the Turkish, just like many other Europeans, build stone homes. Don't ask me what the walls are made out of/how they're built, I just know they're not built out of wood and dry-wall.

 Most homes in Europe are not made of solid stone, in fact a lot of people live in apartment buildings. I’d be pretty sure drywall and the older style plaster and lathe walls are common.