S15.E08: Can I Light You Up?

[Scarlett45]

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 Kody finally returns to Janelle's house, but the larger family conflict over COVID-19 rules continues to grow; it's Kody and Meri's 30th anniversary, and Kody shows no interest in rekindling a romance, despite Meri's intense interest.

 

Air Date: April 4, 2021

[NotinKansasanymore]

Kody: I have no desire to be you.
 

Meri: So you’re saying there’s a chance. 

Kody: You’re cruel and I don’t love you. 
 

Meri: I want to kiss you so bad. 

[iwantcookies]

https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-kody-brown-has-no-sexual-relationship-with-meri-brown/

Meri has no pride. Leave him alone. Move on!

[eskimo]

So Kody's faith and conscience won't allow him to tell Meri she needs to leave, but it WILL allow him to treat her like worthless garbage until she leaves on her own.  That's an interesting faith and conscience you got there, Kody...  

Edited April 5, 2021 by eskimo

[Just Wondering]

When Kody explained that Meri was not “courting” him, I understood him to mean there was something Meri was failing at rather than that he wanted her to chase him so he could say no. Was he telegraphing that Meri acts like a butt and a brat or something and she must stop doing that before he feels she’s serious? Also, he said Meri was bullying the other wives to convince him to reconcile with her. Polygamy is a swirling vortex of sewage. Kody is resentful and the “wives” are resentful.  But when Kody says he is not interested in meeting their needs and they are free to leave, they won’t. They just hang around crying and asking for sex. From Kody. A man who  admitted he just pretends to care (about Christine). I’ve never seen women so desperate to live a lie. I’ve never seen women so clueless that the earth is full of other self-respecting monogamist males who don’t have to be asked twice for some lovin. (Hmph! And Kody calls himself a polygamist!)

Or has it all become so twisted and foul that no one leaves because they know it would make the others happy? For once. 

 

Edited April 5, 2021 by Just Wondering

[deirdra]

1 minute ago, eskimo said:

So Kody's faith and conscience won't allow him to tell Meri she needs to leave, but it WILL allow him to treat her like worthless garbage until she leaves on her own.  That's an interesting faith and conscience you got there, Kody...  

and he said he is never cruel to people

[eskimo]

7 minutes ago, Just Wondering said:

 Polygamy is a swirling vortex of sewage. 

While I agree with this, I also have a feeling the problem here isn't just polygamy.   From what Kody has shown us, he'd probably be a pretty horrible monogamous partner as well.  

Edited April 5, 2021 by eskimo

[Just Wondering]

I’m back. I’m just floored because though I realized polygamous women had to do without their fair share of sex, I didn’t realize polygamous men were turning down so much of it.

1 minute ago, eskimo said:

While I agree with this, I also have a feeling the problem here isn't just polygamy.   From what Kody has shown us, he'd probably be a pretty horrible monogamist partner as well.  

Lol!  But it looks like he’s doing his best by Robyn. 😜

[chuckity]

Kody is a piece of shit.

He doesn't want to be married to Christine.  He doesn't want to be married to Meri.  He wants to be friends with Janelle.  

He just wants to be married to Robyn.  He also doesn't like his boy children.  And the boys despise him.

Also, how in all these years is there not a set schedule of what days Kody is where?  Christine said she never knows until the last minute when he's going to come over.  That's a bunch of bullshit right there.

The only good thing to come out of covid is that without the camera crew in their faces, these nitwits have completely dropped their masks (lol!  hahahahahaha!) and are being real for the first time.

 

Edited April 5, 2021 by chuckity

[deirdra]

16 minutes ago, chuckity said:

Also, how in all these years is there not a set schedule of what days Kody is where?  Christine said she never knows until the last minute when he's going to come over.  That's a bunch of bullshit right there.

Then Robyn says polygamist wives need to learn to just go with the flow.  Though apparently not her.

Edited April 5, 2021 by deirdra

[Tuxcat]

Meri and Kody must have agreed to continue this little charade of a marriage for the sake of television. Otherwise none of this makes sense. He is repulsed by her. There is no chance they reconcile. 

He is annoyed by Christine continuously. He despises her anti-onehouse mantra. 

Janelle doesn't seem to matter at all and that's why her boys hate their dad. Their mom deserves better.

Kody, the issue is not whether or not these women want to live in plural marriage. The issue is you. You have failed. Stop preaching to your wives to take responsibility. Until you do, they can't.

[endure]

1 hour ago, eskimo said:

While I agree with this, I also have a feeling the problem here isn't just polygamy.   From what Kody has shown us, he'd probably be a pretty horrible monogamous partner as well.  

Kody is like a politician talking in circles but never saying anything, he just always has a useless opinion.

1 hour ago, Just Wondering said:

I’m back. I’m just floored because though I realized polygamous women had to do without their fair share of sex, I didn’t realize polygamous men were turning down so much of it.

Lol!  But it looks like he’s doing his best by Robyn. 😜

But Robyn doesn’t seem to be jumping for joy either.

[suev3333]

Cmon....Kodork (lmao) and Meri are on an anniversary date. So Meri wanted to kiss him so bad.   Kody is an ass.  He cant even kiss her a bit and snuggle a bit!?  Or hug her at the very least.   To see what happens!?  If i was Meri, I'd be like, eff you kody if you won't even try.  Who knows, maybe the spark will ignite something.    Maybe it won't.   Kodork, you chose to have 4 wives.....you wanted it, now do your part.  So what if you're not all totally romantically in love with all of them.   Go be with Robyn.   If he's not gonna budge, Meri needs to get out as fast as she can.  What's she going to do now, beg him for some affection?  Eff that🙄   

 and for what it's worth, I thought Meri looked (unusually)  quite pretty in the car ride and blanket sitting scene for their anniversary date 🤷

Edited April 5, 2021 by suev3333
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[MsTree]

3 hours ago, Just Wondering said:

Or has it all become so twisted and foul that no one leaves because they know it would make the others happy?

It all boils down to this:  Money talks, Nobody walks 🥱

Edited April 5, 2021 by MsTree

[Rabbit Hutch]

4 hours ago, iwantcookies said:

https://people.com/tv/sister-wives-kody-brown-has-no-sexual-relationship-with-meri-brown/

Meri has no pride. Leave him alone. Move on!

This is so sad, and quite hard for me to even read.  I can't believe Meri won't let go, as there's nothing there for her.   Kootie is so done with her.

Gosh, Meri, take a hint, already.  Go find someone who will really want you.  😪

[Jeanne222]

I always believed all these sister wives are playing a role and now I'm sure of it!  Meri has been lead several seasons!

We had two seasons of catfishing, one season of Mariah and her big news and now we have Meri looking refreshed and really made up wooing the irresistible Kody.

Not sure where they come up with these plots but they sure are able to sway the audience and line Kody and wives pockets with gold!

We hated Meri but now we think she's looking good, funny, lovable and a woman wronged.

Lol they playing with us!

[Rabbit Hutch]

52 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I always believed all these sister wives are playing a role and now I'm sure of it!  Meri has been lead several seasons!

We had two seasons of catfishing, one season of Mariah and her big news and now we have Meri looking refreshed and really made up wooing the irresistible Kody.

Not sure where they come up with these plots but they sure are able to sway the audience and line Kody and wives pockets with gold!

We hated Meri but now we think she's looking good, funny, lovable and a woman wronged.

Lol they playing with us!

Could be, could be...  🤔

However, if the next season is all about Mariah, I'm out!  I'm guessing Meri is expecting huge payback for the princess and her weddingk, after sitting through all the others. I remember when she told Aspyn that she wanted her to have the wedding that she wanted.  Aspyn turned her down flat, and I thought "good on you, for surely  there's strings attached!"

Mykelti and Tony's wedding childishness and myopia was enough to last me for a lifetime, I can't imagine how bad Mariah is gonna behave.  👀

[Soaper410]

The whole 2nd half of the episode was so uncomfortable.  Kody saying he had never been cruel...while being cruel was special.  

I do think the fact that Meri doesn't go see Janelle and Christine or their kids speaks volumes.  The wet bar and Mariah being put up on this pedestal always rubbed me wrong as did the B&B mess but...I can't help but feel sorry for her. 

She's pathetic and lonely and is being punished not just for her 5+ year old sins but seemingly for all of Kody's frustrations. 

[ginger90]

Some tweets from last night. Meri and Christine did not participate.

[65mickey]

4 hours ago, MsTree said:

It all boils down to this:  Money talks, Nobody walks 🥱

Truer words have never been spoken and you have done it with just 4 words. I don't blame Meri one bit for not walking. I'm sure the others want her out so that they can split her share of the money. My problem with Meri is why humiliate yourself by begging for a scrap of affection from Kody?  Just keep spilling the dirt on Kody and Robyn. No one in the family likes you or cares about you so you don't need to worry about them. Promise that you'll write another "best seller" when the show ends. I'll buy it!

[ginger90]

Math is hard for Kody. Love should be multiplied, not divided. 🤦‍♀️

He doesn’t understand/admit he’s the common denominator in their woes.
 

Edited April 5, 2021 by ginger90

[Marshmallow Mollie]

I had a lightbulb moment. Given how terribly he treats the original three, and his inability (or interest) in working through issues, when he is with Robyn, likely he is also a terrible father and husband. I always thought he was the bumbling lovesick puppy at Robyn’s house and magically a better human there, but Robyn looks miserable, and we have a lot of data on how he treats the other wives. I bet he is Neanderthal beady eyed anger whenever his needs don’t come before the five children in Robyn’s house. She may truly want him to visit someone else for a change. 

[iwantcookies]

Meri made him 30 rice krispy treats.

Why Meri? Your treats looks awful. Did she want Kody to get food poisoning?

[SuzWhat]

Kody: you don’t court me.

Meri : <tries to flirt>

Kody: 🤮
 

[Twopper]

8 hours ago, deirdra said:

and he said he is never cruel to people

When I re-watched all those episodes about the IVF possibility with Meri, I decided he was cruel and toying with her like a cat with a mouse.  I think she must have the polyg version of Stockholm syndrome.   She is indecisive, because her history is either making the wrong decision or realizing whatever she decides will annoy Kody.  He is self-centered and insufferable.   I could almost feel sorry for Robyn being stuck with him for 5 weeks during the pandemic. Almost.

 

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

Some tweets from last night. Meri and Christine did not participate.

Meri just buried her mom last week so I doubt she felt like tweeting, and Christine is busy in St George waiting for Mykelti to give birth.   Kody's tweet is a joke and would be offensive to me, but I don't get offended easily.   If he doesn't want people to take sides or have opinions, DO NOT have a tv show that puts your whole family on display for 15 seasons and stay off of SM.   

[ginger90]

I wasn’t expecting Meri to be on Twitter during the show.

Christine hasn’t tweeted during the show since last year.

[winsomeone]

Janelle sure hung onto Kody when he hugged and kissed her. Didn't think she would ever turn him loose. She wants to be much more than just a friend.

[laurakaye]

4 hours ago, Rabbit Hutch said:

Mykelti and Tony's wedding childishness and myopia was enough to last me for a lifetime, I can't imagine how bad Mariah is gonna behave.  👀

I must be a glutton for punishment because I am 100% here for the Royal Wedding of Pudge and Audge.  I want to see the dynamics between Mariah, Meri and Kody on full display.  Will Mariah get everything she wants because she always has?  Or does Kody's loathing of Meri trickle down to Mariah?  If Mariah can't get married in a castle and hire a carriage drawn by 12 horses to deliver her to her wedding, will she have one of her patented meltdowns?  How will Meri and Kody interact, considering Kody sees Meri as worse than dog poo on the bottom of his shoe?  Will Meri get Kody drunk and have her way with him in a turret?  Pass the popcorn and the cheap wine and bring on Season 16!

 

3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

My problem with Meri is why humiliate yourself by begging for a scrap of affection from Kody?  Just keep spilling the dirt on Kody and Robyn. 

THIS.  Except for the brief tear-wiping Meri did in the car on the way to the anniversary picnic from hell, she was quite feisty and has been telling us like it rilly is, no sugarcoating anymore.  THIS is the tea I have been patiently waiting for.  Give us all the dirt, Meri!

And raise your hand if you're shocked that Janelle neither A. makes her bed or B. cooks edible food.  I'll wait........

OH and raise the other hand if you're stunned that Robyn is teasing the idea of having another baby.  Still waiting............

Edited April 5, 2021 by laurakaye

[Onecattoo]

“I don’t want to do anything, I just want to complain about it”.  Kody just perfectly summed up his entire life as a husband, father and person in general. 

[islandgal140]

The only interesting part of this show was Meri and Kody. Kody was just utterly brutal during that segment and so much stuff came to light. They haven't been out on a date since their 29th anniversary. He doesn't love her, doesn't have any romantic feelings for her. They don't have sex because that is for married people who are in love and romantic.  He thinks she is cruel. Kody is pretty much a brick wall with her and makes it his job to let her know in a myriad of ways that: "We are never, ever, ever getting back together" but wants to be courted?!?! 

One of the most telling moments was Kody fumbling and calling their anniversary Meri's anniversary before correcting himself and saying 'our anniversary.' Why even celebrate a marriage that ain't a marriage?

Meri needs to find some pride. That was painful to watch. 

Really, was anyone in any doubt that the miserable wife Kody is alluding to is Christine?

No surprise that Janelle doesn't make her bed and cooks barely edible meals - who can forget the grayish plates of slop from last week.  I've long held the belief that Janelle chose the plyg life mainly because she is lazy. Part time husband suits her since she doesn't have to put much, if any effort, into taking care of him and seeing to his needs on a full time basis. 1 to 2 nights a week is more than enough, maybe even too much. Other women provide child care and child rearing services and she can get out of the house to 'work'.  PLUS, Older kids raise the smaller ones and do chores.  She benefitted the most from one house living, which is why she is a big proponent of it. Meanwhile, basement wife Christine, got the worst end of the stick and refuses to ever live that way again. 

[Yeah No]

I know I'm probably just stating the obvious at this point, but Kody only visits Janelle and Kristine out of obligation to his kids.  He wouldn't be visiting either of them in the pandemic if not for that.  Meri doesn't see anyone?  Then why the $@%! is she even LIVING near the rest of them?  I truly believe that if not for the cameras Kody wouldn't have anything to do with her at all.  As time goes on it becomes increasingly and painfully obvious that his divorce from her was a REAL one, not just the dissolution of a legal piece of paper to adopt Robin's kids like they tried to sell us.  I never bought that.  They must think we all just fell off the turnip truck.

It's annoying to watch Janelle's sons whine about having to social distance when they're the reason their household is less safe.  Shouldn't they understand that that's a function of their occupations, etc?  I also don't get how Janelle doesn't see that they put HER at risk.  Why is it all about Kody?  She's the poster child for severe Covid, not him.  Gabe and Garrison think the whole thing is a joke.  Kind of hard to see that attitude after over 500,000 people (including my Dad) have died from it.  I sure hope they have changed in time about that.

I don't understand why all of them couldn't have met in one place and they all just sit outside distanced?  It makes absolutely NO sense.  Did they not get that part of the equation?  It's better than not getting together at all.  Sometimes I think these people have such rigid ideas about their relationships that they can't think outside their little box.

Meri needs to make an effort?  At this point the ball is in HIS court.  How FOS and condescending to even suggest that after HE's the one that dumped HER and continues to avoid her.  She has to make herself "more loveable"?  GTFO, what a narcissist.  Just stick a fork in these two, they're done.  They're in the same place they were years ago and nothing's changed.  So why belabor it?  Because they need fodder for the TV show?  His faith doesn't allow him to divorce?  I have news for him, they are in every sense of the word DIVORCED and Kody trying to invent a new reality where that isn't the case to stick to some kind of religious obligation isn't going to make it true.  Besides, it's only for the cameras that they are even in the same scene together much less "married".  If these people would just stop acting (and I do mean "acting") like there is anything left to talk about between them they'd be a lot better off.  They're just resurrecting a dead issue for the show.  I really don't believe Meri still holds the torch for him.  She has to have moved on by now or she would be crying and upset.  It's mostly about the show for her now, that's obvious because she literally has no other reason to still be there.

[Kellyee]

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It's annoying to watch Janelle's sons whine about having to social distance when they're the reason their household is less safe.  Shouldn't they understand that that's a function of their occupations, etc?  I also don't get how Janelle doesn't see that they put HER at risk.  Why is it all about Kody?  She's the poster child for severe Covid, not him.  Gabe and Garrison think the whole thing is a joke.  Kind of hard to see that attitude after over 500,000 people (including my Dad) have died from it.  I sure hope they have changed in time about that.

I'm starting to realize this season that Janelle is a very passive parent who can't control her kids. And Kody probably stops by once a week. So the older boys are running the show. Christine once admitted on camera that Aspyn was basically the second parent in her house. I don't think Kody really does much parenting at all. Except with Robyn, who can't seem to get any of her kids to grow up and needs constant assistance.

 

 

 

 

[t7686]

From personal experience, if a guy says “love is conditional” and that sometimes he “feels like he has to meet the emotional needs of someone he doesn’t want to” then run the F away. Yikes! What a terrible husband and father. I do think Meri can be cruel and Christine is a nag but neither women deserve to be emotionally abused. Janelle is just a sad sack (not even fun like Eeyore) and is now tied with Robyn as my least favorite wife. This whole show is messed up. I’d like to see Kody sincerely hang out with his kids without their respective mothers because he seems to dislike most of them and most seem to dislike him in turn. What a family. 

[MollyBrown]

Kody raging to himself when he was alone in the car was window into his personality.   There is a lot of negative feelings going on behind his beady eyes.   

[itsadryheat]

10 hours ago, Just Wondering said:

Polygamy is a swirling vortex of sewage.

Kody Brown's new tagline: Love should be multiplied not divided 

Polygamy is a swirling vortex of sewage.

[LilyD]

TweetQuote from Kodouche: “This isn’t a fight or situation that people should take sides or even give opinions. It is our problem and we will work it out as we should. This happens in marriage, so what you think of me is none of my business.”

• If we are not allowed to take sides or give opinions, then don’t be on a blood reality show!
• We will work it out as we should: Meaning what exactly?? You’re the perfect (best) example of how NOT to work things out!
• This happens in marriage: No it doesn’t. People divorce when they no longer love each other and when the respect has flown out of the window. Oh wait....you already divorced one and are not married to the other two...

Has this idiot ever considered hoe much damage he does to his kids by appearing as this massive douche-bag and trashing their mums on (inter)national tv??

 

[Art Of Noiz]

20 minutes ago, MollyBrown said:

Kody raging to himself when he was alone in the car was window into his personality.   There is a lot of negative feelings going on behind his beady eyes.   

He's scary.

[Just Wondering]

I am vacillating on whether Kody and Meri’s bit this season is fake or naw. If it’s indeed fake, I’m truly appalled at Meri portraying herself this way to a younger generation of ladies. 

If Kody doesn’t love Meri, he just doesn’t. It no longer matters how that came to be, whether because of Robyn or the catfish or both, Kody done moved on, child.

I feel like, “Y’all might be tryna trick us, but ya’ll ain’t trickin God”, so why keep bringing it up that they’re technically keeping their (loop-hole) faith. Not buying that for sure. 

So I guess I’m back to - they’re faking this. And if they’re making enough money to fund four, I mean three, households, I guess I shouldn’t blame them. BUT if the shows are going to be this painful and uncomfortable and contradictory and socially irresponsible, why not just own the original truth in the first place? I guess because no one saw all this coming. Otherwise... 

10 minutes ago, LilyDutch said:

TweetQuote from Kodouche: “This isn’t a fight or situation that people should take sides or even give opinions. It is our problem and we will work it out as we should. This happens in marriage, so what you think of me is none of my business.”

• If we are not allowed to take sides or give opinions, then don’t be on a blood reality show!
• We will work it out as we should: Meaning what exactly?? You’re the perfect (best) example of how NOT to work things out!
• This happens in marriage: No it doesn’t. People divorce when they no longer love each other and when the respect has flown out of the window. Oh wait....you already divorced one and are not married to the other two...

Has this idiot ever considered hoe much damage he does to his kids by appearing as this massive douche-bag and trashing their mums on (inter)national tv??

 

THIS!!!! ❤️

[Just Wondering]

Furthermore! Meri bullying someone to convince Kody to throw her some love is wincingly reminiscent of Leah trading Rachel some fresh mandrakes for a night with Jacob. What fruit does Robyn like?

Edited April 5, 2021 by Just Wondering

[Cetacean]

To what does the episode title refer?  I can't stomach watching or listening so am just here for the snark.  What's "lighting up" all about?

[Art Of Noiz]

One thing that struck me last night...during the Roadside Anniversary Celebration, Meri tries to engage Kody in a conversation about them. About her. He ducks his head, pretends to blush (ffs!). Somehow, Kody extrapolated Meri needing him to talk about her to him ranting about another wife or wives' unhappiness. 

He veers it to "Family", not unlike Christine's sucky Pirate Anniversary. 

I can't be sure if this was all editing. Editing aside, Kody is a skilled deflector. 

A conversational terrorist.

[ginger90]

4 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

To what does the episode title refer?  I can't stomach watching or listening so am just here for the snark.  What's "lighting up" all about?

Perhaps it’s from the use of the word, rekindling?

[NoWhammies]

6 minutes ago, Cetacean said:

To what does the episode title refer?  I can't stomach watching or listening so am just here for the snark.  What's "lighting up" all about?

I suspect it refers to the fact that, as they recorded one another on their nonniversary, they had their phone flashlights on as it got dark outside.

[laurakaye]

3 hours ago, Yeah No said:

It's annoying to watch Janelle's sons whine about having to social distance when they're the reason their household is less safe.  Shouldn't they understand that that's a function of their occupations, etc?  I also don't get how Janelle doesn't see that they put HER at risk.  Why is it all about Kody?  She's the poster child for severe Covid, not him.  Gabe and Garrison think the whole thing is a joke.  Kind of hard to see that attitude after over 500,000 people (including my Dad) have died from it.  I sure hope they have changed in time about that.

 

3 hours ago, Kellyee said:

I'm starting to realize this season that Janelle is a very passive parent who can't control her kids. And Kody probably stops by once a week. So the older boys are running the show. 

I have such mixed feelings about all of this.  If this footage was actually filmed at the beginning of Covid (March/April), then I partially understand the boys' point of view because I also remember the massive confusion about what we were supposed to do and not do, and how everything I heard or read contradicted what I'd read before, etc.  It was a time of profound anxiety, with each passing month far worse than the one before.  So when Gabe and Garrison act like it's no big deal, I feel like what they're really saying is that their dad doesn't give a sh!t about coming to see them anyway, so why should they change their lives for him when he certainly hasn't been doing it for them - and I think Kody not seeing his kids with Janelle goes back much further than Covid.  At the same time, Janelle is a passive Eeyore who needs to make a decision and stick with it....and while I hate sympathizing for one second with her, she is stuck trying to protect Kody just in case he ever decides to stop by, at the expense of her sons' lives, who she has to deal with every day.  Meanwhile, Savanah makes a good point to her brothers that their lack of concern means that she can't see her siblings, and in fact, she's over it.  She no longer cares.  That's sad, but it's also a way to deal with things you can't control - just check out.   She learned it from her mother.  Janelle is in a no-win situation in a horribly confusing time, and her sons are trying to tell her that it doesn't matter what they do or don't do, it's not going to make Kody come over and be their dad.  Janelle needed to tell them to follow the guidelines for her and Savanah's sake and leave Kody right out of the family equation because he really doesn't count.  But she's so damn torn on suddenly not being able to see him (when she probably wasn't anyway) that she AND Kody keep throwing those two boys under the bus over and over and over.  It must suck for them to watch these episodes.  Kody is going to lose all of his sons, except Sol, and he deserves to.

Also, Janelle can STFU about going on a blocking spree with her followers.  They all do this when negative comments come their way.  I bet Janelle was doing a gleeful jig when Meri was constantly blocking the haters too - now it must be Janelle's turn.  If you don't like the scrutiny, get a real job and get off our tv.

Edited April 5, 2021 by laurakaye

[itsadryheat]

2 hours ago, Onecattoo said:

“I don’t want to do anything, I just want to complain about it”

And another Kody Brown tag line! 

My have things changed since Season 1 when he took offense to Natalie Morales when she mentioned his reputation as liking the ladies and questioned his choice to live the lifestyle for this reason not "faith".  I was choking at his aggressive response, that he has done the emotional work to support this lifestyle. And plyg cheerleader Christine had an audible gasp. He is incapable of of grasping the concept of emotional work much less doing it. Kody's go to is blame the other person. To much use of I ,Me. "If you want to be loved, make yourself lovable"

After watching him devolve, I do not believe he even likes women but his drug of choice is being adored, idealized, worshipped. A low level, mainstream cult leader. Most cult leaders are very charismatic.  Cult leaders' charisma also helps them set up a power imbalance between them and their followers. They'll create crisis situations. They thrive on chaos. Their unpredictable nature and charisma allows cult leaders to be in control — which is by design. Example: inability to have create a family schedule, but choosing pop ins.

Kody Brown is a bottomless pit of ego need. Meri, Christine and now Covid are pushing back on Kody's need for chaos and control. I think what we are seeing is the real Kody Brown. They are all such poor communicators, passive-aggressive and immature, I want to believe Meri is poking the bear on purpose. Her couch snark and non anniversary conversation was so calm. 

Wonder where does this guy goes after the show. The AUB doesn't want him back, who would hire him?

 

 

Edited April 5, 2021 by itsadryheat

[NoWhammies]

7 minutes ago, itsadryheat said:

 

Wonder where does this guy goes after the show. The AUB doesn't want him back, who would hire him?

 

 

One can only hope ignominy.

[Teafortwo]

3 hours ago, laurakaye said:

OH and raise the other hand if you're stunned that Robyn is teasing the idea of having another baby.  Still waiting............

I wouldn't be stunned if she did have another. But I was stunned at the idea that she would have another. My jaw literally dropped at that teaser.

[bichonblitz]

Let's be real. Meri is hanging on for the TV exposure so she can continue to collect the paycheck. If Mr. Right comes along after the show is over, she will be over, too. 

Gabe gives no shits about showing his contempt for Kody right in front of his face. I like Gabe because he's always been a straight shooter and doesn't care if the camera is rolling. 

Christines house is ugly. 

1 hour ago, Teafortwo said:

I wouldn't be stunned if she did have another. But I was stunned at the idea that she would have another. My jaw literally dropped at that teaser.

She's 42. It won't be so easy to get preg again. Unless she's fertile myrtle. 

Edited April 5, 2021 by bichonblitz
Wrong names. Gabe not Caleb.

[NotinKansasanymore]

Kody: "I want wives that get along with each other, and like each other, and who don't sit there and say snotty little *bleep* things to each other that breaks the other's heart."

There has to be so much going on in this family that they are not airing. So if you guys had to guess which wives are saying snotty things to the other and about what?

I think some of it was Meri/Maddie blowup, which I think pissed off Janelle and Kody. I mean had Meri even met Maddie's daughter yet?

I think Meri is talking crap about the other three.

I think Christine has said things to Robyn, and Robyn has gone crying to Kody, that what is being said, "breaks her heart."

I really think Robyn claims to the peacemaker, but then goes back and tells Kody that she is feeling bullied by Meri, or tells Kody something Christine said about why she doesn't want to live in one house, and she just stirs the pot, by playing victim, and gets Kody riled up so that he is angry at the other wives.

[bichonblitz]

7 minutes ago, NotinKansasanymore said:

I really think Robyn claims to the peacemaker, but then goes back and tells Kody that she is feeling bullied by Meri, or tells Kody something Christine said about why she doesn't want to live in one house, and she just stirs the pot, by playing victim, and gets Kody riled up so that he is angry at the other wives.

💯! Robyn plays Kody like a fiddle. He has no idea how she plays him.