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S12.E08: Face To Face

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Wow, what a POS Chris is! He was so disrespectful to his pastor. So rude! Looking at his phone and saying he was done with the conversation as soon as the conversation didn't go his way! The nerve of his pastor to tell him that he needed to honor his marriage vows! 

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Why? Why? Why? Did you agree to meet with them, Paige?  I think POS Chris wanted two women to fight over him.  And, it seems, it backfired.  "I don't want to play with emotions and feelings" Bullshit.  That's his MO.  And now he wants to READ HIS BIBLE?!?  After he told his pastor to more of less go to hell?!?  Hilarious.  

Just a last comment on the champagne, Vince and Brianna.  It didn't spill.  It wasn't chilled properly and that's why it foamed up out of the bottle.  No one's fault.  Would have happened to anyone.  

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6 hours ago, Gator Stud said:

I am on team Vincent.  What does “totally Vincent” mean?  I took that to mean he is usually a bumbling idiot.  It was meant to be kidding on the square. I think she now knows that she cannot say things like this anymore.  When a woman is more educated than a man, it causes these types of problems. 

Vincent lost me after last week's hissy fit. I don't know why Briana jokingly said "That's so Vinny", but it didn't seem to be malicious. For all we know Vinny MAY be a klutz and we haven't seen it. I saw no disrespect on her part. And even if he were feeling disrespected, he needed to use his words. Briana is not a mind reader.

Storming out was childish; as Bri said, there's a second bedroom.

Vinny initially appeared all calm, sweet and loving, but feeling threatened or disrespected, flipped a switch. Apparently his cousin was right when she told Briana that Vinny has a temper.

From that moment on, I was over him. He was exhibiting that male machismo. I WILL NOT BE DISRESPECTED!!  Get over yourself, Vincent. Respect is a 2 way street.

In both his TH and chat with his wise friend Jalen (Jaden?), He said that Briana should have offered to get paper towels and clean his shirt. Wtf? Clean your own damn shirt you fool! You made the mess. Instead he goes to bed sulking. Briana had no clue what she did to cause him to feel disrespected, but Vinny wouldn't give her an example. Poor thing was on the verge of tears when he left.

 

If they stay together she's going to be walking around on eggshells, trying not to set him off. He's extremely insecure and pairing him with a much more educated and accomplished partner isn't doing him any favors.

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1 hour ago, Cammi said:

I honestly think if Erik was put with someone more mature like Haley, we would not see his controlling side this much. Maybe Erik is afraid if he doesn’t check in with her often, she’ll fall down dead drunk somewhere, or drive drunk? I know if she was my friend I’d be texting her all damn day every day to make sure she hadn’t killed herself by alcohol poisoning. I have no idea how that bitch made it through infancy! I cannot believe she’s made it this far as an adult. I honestly have no idea how she holds a job, she seems so immature and in a state of “sorority girl arrested development”. 

I was thinking the exact same thing!  If I knew my SO was plastered all the time, I'd want very frequent check-ins too.  I'd be worried she may step in front of a bus, drive drunk, was on the floor choking on her own puke, etc.  There's no way I could live like that, and I don't see Erik staying with her. 

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39 minutes ago, Devvie said:

Why? Why? Why? Did you agree to meet with them, Paige?  I think POS Chris wanted two women to fight over him.  And, it seems, it backfired.

Ha Ha that was delicious! Chris is batshit crazy. Dude needs therapy. Deep, intensive therapy. 

I like ALL of the friends and families. None of the couples. 

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If Haley's issue is really about the bad one night sex, I totally get it. Back when I was single about 1,000 years ago I dated some really great looking guys that turned out to be sooooooo bad in bed. Total turn off. We will never really know if that is the crux of her problem, though. 

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5 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Oh good lord this pastor thinks Chris should stay married! I’m not watching this train wreck story line anymore, I feel my blood pressure go up every time Chris’s scenes come up. 

OMG I thought the same thing. They gave HORRIBLE advice!! He just told them he’s not attracted to her and has a pregnant ex fiancé he wants to get back with and they are telling him to stay with Paige because she’s legally his wife and it’s biblical or what not. Ughhhh get a grip! They are literally tossing Paige under the bus with that advice. There is zero empathy or thought as to how his staying with her would ultimately effect her in the long run. Who wants to be married to a man who isn’t attracted to them and has kids with other people? Also, what kind of “man of God” applies to get married at first sight yet has a fiancé who is pregnant??? She was impregnated during the process. He’s pure scum. RUN PAIGE!!!

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52 minutes ago, Devvie said:

Why? Why? Why? Did you agree to meet with them, Paige?  I think POS Chris wanted two women to fight over him.  And, it seems, it backfired.  "I don't want to play with emotions and feelings" Bullshit.  That's his MO.  And now he wants to READ HIS BIBLE?!?  After he told his pastor to more of less go to hell?!?  Hilarious.  

Just a last comment on the champagne, Vince and Brianna.  It didn't spill.  It wasn't chilled properly and that's why it foamed up out of the bottle.  No one's fault.  Would have happened to anyone.  

I’m wondering if this is all an act that Chris set up with his ex. Maybe she’s not an ex (or she is) and he just wanted fame and exposure on this show and he had a plan to bring this “ex fiancé pregnancy” scenario into play if he was truly not into her. Maybe they planned the whole situation as a way to kind of both remain relevant on tv and also get out of a marriage to someone he has zero attraction to? I’m just brainstorming cause it feels so staged to me. 

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Unfiltered: Briana, Jake, Paige, and JamieO 

More sad music for Paige moving into the apartment alone. Jake and Bri think PO$ made a dick move to go to Chicago.

Like that Paige had Haley’s back and Jake admitted to being too vicious in expressing his feelings about being left out.

Briana’s laugh....heh heh heh reminds me of Bevis and Butthead laughing

Haley doesn’t want to hug Jake to give him any hope of sack time.

These Unfiltereds are so boring but I watch so you all don’t have to.....they are nothing burgers with nothing fries and a nothing drink.

Unfiltereds used to showcase the cast off script, showing their personalities but they are just scripted yadda yadda yaddas....

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Po$ Chris mispronounces “feelings” as fillings...as in dental fillings.

Was he expecting Mercedes and Paige to cat fight over him...he’s just a egotistical jack hole.

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On 3/3/2021 at 6:54 PM, humbleopinion said:

Haley is wound tight and perhaps Jake was too quick to jettison his bombs before the mission was completed ...if you get my drift....

Old Jake didn't get a mulligan or whatever you kids are calling bjs and OTPHJs these days.

 

Do women even expect an orgasm? Especially during the first time? Why would you hold that against a guy? It's not a definite for women. It's not even a definite for men. Trust me.

Also, I just can't with the term traumatizing constantly being lobbied at whatever sex Jake and Haley had. I don't know where this hyperbole is coming. We have zero idea what actually went down or even if the sex is the problem or is the fact that she does not dig him on any level. It just rubs me the wrong way. 

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14 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Even if Virginia was a bridesmaid, I don't understand why she had to be gone for four days.  Erik does come off as controlling though.

Virginia's friend talking to Erik looks like a drunk.

At this point, she has already spent the better part of a week gone and two nights where she fucked off and partied with her friends. These people have a month and  a half to figure this out and she's just insisting on not changing her life in any way. I don't get it. She shouldn't be married.

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No comments on Chris and Paige because I am now just fast forwarding through them. Enough already. And f$ck this show for this.

I think Ryan is holding back because he knows they have some major fundamental differences and he hasn’t decided if he can live with it. But screw Clara for judging a GROWN MAN for declining the peer pressure to do a stupid Jell-O shot. I mean, seriously, how old is she? Fifteen??? She hit the jackpot with Ryan bc it seems like she’s kissed a lot of toads. Not sure she can do better for herself. They are kind of opposites though - she’s a party girl and he’s a serious person. I hope she gives him a chance and a haircut.

Haley is a big nothing to me. She just sit there and nods and smiles. There is nothing there - just glazed over eyes and red matte lipstick. Jake might be a little odd but he seems comfortable in his own skin and friendly with everyone. He might have been perfect for someone else, but not this ice queen. She is my second least favorite this season after the POS at the top of my post.

What a bunch of nothing with Vinny and Bri - he didn’t even leave! Good one, show - ya got me! 

Erick is correct to question why VA wanted to get married. She doesn’t seem like she really wants to be married. She is an alcoholic. Someone needs to ask this chick why she needs to drink ALL.THE.TIME. Erick needs to run. Even if they say yes on decision day I will be shocked if they last a year.

All the friends tonight were on fire. My favs were Vincent’s friend and Haley’s friend. More wisdom from those two people in five minutes of screen time than the experts combined all season. 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Soup333 said:

I couldn’t deal with Erik. On top of Virginia needing to check in every other hour he didn’t believe she had platonic relationships with her male friends until they confirmed it to him. How long will it take for him to trust her to be off the leash for four hours? Who would put up with that shit?

Unpopular opinion on sure but why should he? Maybe not be as extreme as he has been but why should he just believe her? She's living her life like she's still single. Who's to say it stops at partying? Who's to say there was never a friend's with benefits situation with these guys? Obviously Virginia is that person but I don't mind his reservations. She's a walking reservation. 

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These dogs are driving me nuts on this show. Everytime I watch these pets jumping over or on any and everything I get a headache just looking at it. I will never ever understand this need for damn near everyone to have a pet. It's all unappealing to me. Which is fine. It's their life. People love their pets like family, etc. I just can't deal though. 

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5 hours ago, Suzy Rhapsody said:

I bet Haley is tearing Jake to shreds with her friends behind his back.  It makes me kind of sad for him.  I don’t think he’s a bad guy.  Maybe just an acquired taste and not for everyone, but a decent person if he’s given a chance to get comfortable. 

 

3 hours ago, Cammi said:

I agree. I think production is giving him a bad edit on purpose because he’s a nice guy and they can’t find anything else to use as a plot point. I’m quite introverted, and I really love his calm, thoughtful way of speaking. It is very soothing and relaxing. He would make a really good fitness instructor or a teacher

There had been much debate about Jake’s attractiveness. I noticed that now that his hair is growing back, he is a pretty decent looking guy. He is a good height and his bodybuilding physique does not hurt. I really think he chose the worst possible haircut for his facial features right before the wedding. He might have actually looked better with a shaved head.

2 hours ago, Soup333 said:

I think he was dismissing the conversation. Whatever his intentions were, that discussion didn’t go as he planned and he was pissed. He pulled up his phone when done with his friend and pastor. That was another way of dismissing the conversation. 

 

2 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

Wow, what a POS Chris is! He was so disrespectful to his pastor. So rude! Looking at his phone and saying he was done with the conversation as soon as the conversation didn't go his way! The nerve of his pastor to tell him that he needed to honor his marriage vows! 

 

2 hours ago, After7Only said:

I see Paige so differently than a lot of people.  She went into that meeting with Chris and  Mercedes on a mission to blow his spot up.   The calm demeanor and smiling was because she was being very deliberate to let Mercedes know exactly what Chris had done and said while letting her know she wasn’t bothered by her at all.  Chris was hoping for drama and for the ladies to fight over him.   Kudos to both for not giving him the satisfaction.   

  If you listen to Paige on all of her unfiltered appearances it’s pretty obvious she’s been done with  Chris even though she is edited differently on the show.

 

 

1 hour ago, Devvie said:

Why? Why? Why? Did you agree to meet with them, Paige?  I think POS Chris wanted two women to fight over him.  And, it seems, it backfired.  "I don't want to play with emotions and feelings" Bullshit.  That's his MO.  And now he wants to READ HIS BIBLE?!?  After he told his pastor to more of less go to hell?!?  Hilarious.  

Just a last comment on the champagne, Vince and Brianna.  It didn't spill.  It wasn't chilled properly and that's why it foamed up out of the bottle.  No one's fault.  Would have happened to anyone.  

I think Chris is such a pig that he was probably hoping the night would end in ménage a trois...afterwards he would then read his Bible, of course.

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Jake needs to get over his need to be right and justified about perceived slights, inflating situations like his invitation getting lost in the mail to the cocktail party downstairs at the casino on the last night in Las Vegas.

He thinks he is holding his tongue, thinking before speaking in measured tones but it comes off as hostile.

Haley to switched airplane seating because who wants to listen his poor, poor pitiful me grievances the whole flight home.

If Jake would just lay down his sword, he and Haley could just friend zone and stop stressing us out.

 

 

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Unfiltered

WTH with the terrible camera work on Jamie?  She was out of focus most of the time and the bookshelves behind her were in HD.  Who knows?  Maybe she reads this board, knows everyone can't stand her, and did that on purpose...?  I don't hate you, Jamie.  You keep collecting your coin and popping out children as long as you can!  Very awkward for Jacob.  It seemed obvious that Paige and Brianna are totally Team Haley.  I liked how he didn't pull any punches about his thoughts on Chris. 

Briana and Vincent

Briana seemed to understand where Vincent was coming from, but he needs to ar·tic·u·late in the moment instead of holding things in.  It's unfair to expect Briana to be a mind reader.  His friend gave amazing advice.  Like many others have said, the friends are doing far better than the (absentee) experts this season.  I thought the family get-together was nice.  They kind of remind me of AJ and Steph.  AJ was always tense and snapping at production, but Steph was AMAZING and patient.  I never thought they would make it, but now they are one of my favorite couples to watch on Couples Cam. If Elizabeth and Jamie can survive and turn things around, I still have hope for Briana and Vincent. 

Clara and Ryan

Meh.  I don't really have much to say on them.  They don't seem to have any chemistry.  They seem...cold...?  They may be having fun, but it must be off-camera.  Thanks, Show.

Haley and Jacob

All I hear is a lonely bugler playing "Taps" in my head every time they are onscreen. 

Virginia and Erik

You know, at first I wasn't ready to jump on the "Virginia has a serious problem with alcohol" train, but I am firmly buckled in after this episode.  At her age, she should be past the college campus constantly drunk stage, but she isn't.  I wonder if she smells like alcohol when she wakes up every morning.  I will say the dogs cracked me up.  When Erik said his dog was like him and her dog was like her, I could completely see it. lol  Her dog is cute but HYPER!  I wonder if Erik was cheated on and that's why he is so paranoid.  Anyway, I want to like them, but I hope that she can mature and he can let go.  His friend gave really good advice as well.  +1 for friends this episode.

Paige, Mercedes, and PunkA$$Child

Definitely agree with others that Mercedes and PunkA$$Child seem to be lying.  I can only HOPE Paige is in on this farce because otherwise...I just don't know.  His behavior with his (YES FIIIIIINE) friends was awful and disrespectful.  He has the maturity of a two year old.  I did appreciate his one friend telling him that Paige was a DIAMOND.  I just wish Paige thought of herself that way.  WhereTH are the experts?  Was there no intervention?  Did they have nothing to say (aside from the lame Pastor Cal discussion last week)?  Where are Dr. Pepper and Viviana?? Why are we not getting their thoughts on the situation?  I have BEEN done with this couple.  At the end of the episode, I was like, "Yes. This HAS to be the last we see of this burning dumpster of a match," but then?  The previews. *sigh*

ETA: Because I forgot all about Virginia and Erik.

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8 hours ago, me5671 said:

I agree about Virginia.  At this point I am concerned about her relationship with alcohol.  Did you catch the part where she said her friends won't let her force them to have more than 3 shots with her when they go out... so then she GOES HOME AND TAKES SHOTS BY HERSELF?!  That is a textbook sign of having a problematic relationship with alcohol.  And the way she said it too.  It wasn't said jokingly, but matter-of-factly IMO.  Very concerning.

You are absolutely right, I forgot she said that! When people drink alone like that, it is VERY worrying. Doing shots alone? Really??? Shots? 😳 This is being made light of on the show, but the signs are all there, She needs an intervention, and I am not joking. If she says these things ON camera, I can't imagine how she is in private. 

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8 hours ago, After7Only said:

I see Paige so differently than a lot of people.  She went into that meeting with Chris and  Mercedes on a mission to blow his spot up.   The calm demeanor and smiling was because she was being very deliberate to let Mercedes know exactly what Chris had done and said while letting her know she wasn’t bothered by her at all.  Chris was hoping for drama and for the ladies to fight over him.   Kudos to both for not giving him the satisfaction.   

  If you listen to Paige on all of her unfiltered appearances it’s pretty obvious she’s been done with  Chris even though she is edited differently on the show.

 

I agree with you, the sit down/show down was handled very well by the women. But at this point, for me at least- it was too little too late from Paige. She decided to grow a spine after HE dumped HER. And so yeah... still questioning her emotional intelligence. I'll continue to side eye her. Sex with him unprotected, almost every DAY? With HIM? After he faked a panic attack cuz he thought she was ugly! Effing no. Not converting to a Paige fan. The damage is done imo 

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11 hours ago, CSunshine76 said:

This Chris/Paige/ex is a shit show of epic proportions! Is this for real?

That bastard just sits there staring into space? Why is Paige even sitting down with them? No thank you...block his number and move on sister.

I mean really.  Is this the Chris & Paige Show now?  WTF?  Between both of them talking soooo slowly I’d driving me nuts.  They both are interesting.  He’s a blowhard, and she’s a door mat.  Get them off.  The most uninteresting couple EVER !   This WAS my favorite show, but no more.  It’s garbage.  I meant uninteresting up there.  I’m so mad .. waste of time, and the commercials.  Ugh.   

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13 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

Oh good lord this pastor thinks Chris should stay married! I’m not watching this train wreck story line anymore, I feel my blood pressure go up every time Chris’s scenes come up. 

Me too.  Why are these two getting so much air time?  I’m fast forwarding every minute.  Paige always lookin down and talking so slowly irks me to no end.  And the creepy music when she’s on, and telling us God is guiding her to stay with that creep.  It’s too much.

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11 hours ago, Cammi said:

DONE WITH VIRGINIA. OFFICIALLY TRIGGERED. Alcoholic dumbass immature little girl. “If you don’t do shots with me, we can’t be friends”. Gtf outta here with your alcoholic self Virginia. I grew up with alcoholic parents and I purposely don’t drink. There is nothing wrong with that! Absolutely nothing. I have never been drunk a day in my life, because I was so worried I would be like my addict parents. People don’t always have to drink and they don’t always have to give a reason either! I couldn’t stand it when I’d be a party and girls (sorry it was always girls) would be forcing the drinking issue, and asking “but why, why, why? Why don’t you want to drink, why?” Because I don’t like it! Smokers never do that. If someone asks you for a cigarette and you say I don’t smoke, they don’t say but WHY? Grow the hell up Virginia. If Eric stays with her, he’s a damn fool. She’s a bottom barrel lush IMO and no “decent” man in his right mind would intentionally wife her. And she is NOT attractive. She actually has jerky head movements like she’s going through withdrawals when she doesn’t have a drink. This is not a dig, I’m seriously wondering if she’s addicted to something other than alcohol.

I think Chris and Mercedes planned this. Merced’s had that same dumb smile like she was enjoying it, but played it off better than him. And he is a textbook narcissist. He is LITERALLY hitting every single narcissistic red flag, it’s almost like he’s following a playbook. I’ve never seen a narcissist THIS obvious before on my TV. I’m baffled how he’s not been called out yet. I literally have no words, his narcissism is absolutely INSANE  

 

I sympathize. I lived with an alcoholic stepmother.  I’ve always been triggered by others’ alcoholic behavior.  I do drink, but I don’t like to be anything beyond slightly tipsy.  I am older so I skipped the binge drinking that goes on today.   It’s dangerous on many levels.  Virginia seems to have many enablers who allow her to escape the natural consequence of her behavior.  My amateur armchair psychologist self thinks she has a lot of anxiety  and numbs herself with alcohol.  Her girlfriends who won’t do more than 3 shots with her have begun to back out of excess drinking and may know Virginia is looking for more than a good time.

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9 hours ago, Devvie said:

Just a last comment on the champagne, Vince and Brianna.  It didn't spill.  It wasn't chilled properly and that's why it foamed up out of the bottle.  No one's fault.  Would have happened to anyone.  

Champagne takes revenge when it’s not treated with respect and delicacy.

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Show, put Haley out of her misery.  Call it a day with them.  She can’t stand the guy and it’s written all over her face.  If she’s trying to act for a part, she failed.  They should put Caroline, Haley’s friend with Jake.  They both have big noses.  Caroline says Haily is tough.  Tough and always in pain when with Jake.

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9 hours ago, Meowwww said:

First, I think that saying Haley looks traumatized by the sex is....reaching.  I’m a rape survivor and I don’t take this lightly.  There’s been no mention of sex or rape here by Haley.  

I don't think anyone's suggesting Haley was raped, and Haley certainly didn't, it's just that she might not have liked the sex.  One can look traumatized, disgusted, or whatever you want to call it after bad sex.

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8 hours ago, Racj82 said:

At this point, she has already spent the better part of week gone and two nights where she fucked off and partied with her friends. These people have a week and half to figure this out and she's just insisting on not changing her life in anyway. I don't get it. She shouldn't be married.

Supposidely Erik is a smart guy.  Can’t he see Virginia is a child who is an alcoholic?  Is he blinded by love?  She is so figgity, she can’t be still without twirling her hair, jumping around, laughing at nothing.  Maybe she’s on other stuff too.  Four days gone. Yeah, she loves him.  My ass.

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When Chris was rushing to leave the confrontation when it didn't go his way (deprived him of drama and attention), and he said "I can't wait to go eat"- I woulda hit him with "YOU asked ME to be here, you colossal asshole!" What a Mr Fuckerton fucking fuckface,  Fuckboi posterchild

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8 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Supposidely Erik is a smart guy.  Can’t he see Virginia is a child who is an alcoholic?  Is he blinded by love?  She is so figgity, she can’t be still without twirling her hair, jumping around, laughing at nothing.  Maybe she’s on other stuff too.  Four days gone. Yeah, she loves him.  My ass.

He has some rose colored glasses on when it comes to her. She seemed to make her own poor dog fidgety and nervous.

I think she will stay with him mostly because of his bank roll and because he is a pilot, she won't have to deal with him as much as a husband with a regular 9-5 job. This will give her plenty of time to go out and party.

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In the tease for next week we see Haley bringing Jake some big blue bags that we all hope are filled with new, well fitted clothes for him...

Grampy Jake needs to hop into the Hot Tub Time Machine and wear clothes that human males are wearing in 2021...

Predicting Jake will return in kind with a tacky 80's outfit fresh from the Goodwill for Haley that she will have to burn then fumigate the condo.....

What the hell...Why why why do we have to see PO$ and Paige sitting in the same camera shot...they must be filming to fulfill their contract.

I'd rather see Mercedes and Paige hang out with the brides and trash talking Po$.....Ginny will be the bartender.

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I don't usually watch Unfiltered because I don't like the host. But, is Paige on every single time???? I am so sick of both of them sucking up so much air time. I do, at this point, think that all three of them are in on this. Otherwise, there is no way Paige would have been allowed to go to a meeting with there being no intermediary from the show there to facilitate that mess. 

If Chris is playing a part of a script, he is doing a great job. I happen to think that he is just being Chris. I don't know what Paige's game is, but she cannot be that desperate and clinging to a "marriage" less than 2 weeks old.

I really am done with Ginny and Erik. She came home still drunk and just seemed so distracted and uninterested in being there. So, she chose to ONLY invite her male friends and no female ones? I bet she was in her glory - all men and her. Erick is a fool and she isn't even very pretty. And he was totally right that her dog feeds into her energy and gets hyper when she does.S ave the dog!!!

I was surprised when Clara announced to everyone that she hadn't even seen Ryan without a shirt and hope that she was just joking. I still like him and hope she gets some action soon or she will explode. And not in a good way.

I really need Brianna to stop the laughing at every single thing she says.

Oh, the other reason I don't like the Unfiltered show is that the purpose is to get other people to gossip about people who aren't there. How junior high school. And, as someone said, who are any of these people to give marriage advice to anyone else? I was disgusted hearing Paige saying how it takes time to grow the marriage - she is the LAST person to give advice. The only thing she needs to grow is a spine.

It seemed like the show could have been about 12 minutes without the commercials. I still fell asleep and need to watch the end and the previews for next week. As long as Chris snd Paige are on, I will probably just record and watch the next day to fast forward. Terrible season. I might actually be able to mean it when I say (as I do every year) that I am done.

 

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8 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Do women even expect an orgasm? Especially during the first time? Why would you hold that against a guy? It's not a definite for women. It's not even a definite for men. Trust me.

Also, I just can't with the term traumatizing constantly being lobbied at whatever sex Jake and Haley had. I don't know where this hyperbole is coming. We have zero idea what actually went down or even if the sex is the problem or is the fact that she had she's not digging him on any level. It just rubs me the wrong way. 

After a certain point with the same partner, yes, everybody should expect orgasms because by then everybody should know what everybody likes. But the first time with a new partner, especially a person you don’t know, is often not mind-blowing.

I would hold it against a guy if I’d showed and told him what I liked and he didn’t do it (I would just end it), but I definitely wouldn’t hold it against him if the first time were just OK. That’s not unusual.

I don’t think Haley is traumatized either; I think she’s not into him and as everyone in her life has pointed out, including her, she rejects men quickly and for superficial reasons, and that’s what she’s doing. She’s not used to not being able to cut and run, and I think that’s what’s freaking her out.

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20 minutes ago, Cammi said:

When Chris was rushing to leave the confrontation when it didn't go his way (deprived him of drama and attention), and he said "I can't wait to go eat"- I woulda hit him with "YOU asked ME to be here, you colossal asshole!" What a Mr Fuckerton fucking fuckface,  Fuckboi posterchild

I saw that and thought it was the end of them.  Then, I see them on next weeks teaser.  Are they over or what?  They both are like boils that don’t go away.

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3 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

After a certain point with the same partner, yes, everybody should expect orgasms because by then everybody should know what everybody likes. But the first time with a new partner, especially a person you don’t know, is often not mind-blowing.

I would hold it against a guy if I’d showed and told him what I liked and he didn’t do it (I would just end it), but I definitely wouldn’t hold it against him if the first time were just OK. That’s not unusual.

I don’t think Haley is traumatized either; I think she’s not into him and as everyone in her life has pointed out, including her, she rejects men quickly and for superficial reasons, and that’s what she’s doing. She’s not used to not being able to cut and run, and I think that’s what’s freaking her out.

So why did she come on this show?  It’s taking a big gamble. Looks like they are done and just playing the part.  I don’t think any one of them will stay married.

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1 minute ago, Silver Bells said:

I saw that and thought it was the end of them.  Then, I see them on next weeks teaser.  Are they over or what?  They both are like boils that don’t go away.

I think they'll stay on the show. Every time a marriage has ended early that I can think of, both people have stayed on the show. Mindy and Zach, Olivia and Brett (although that technically wasn't early because the show prolonged the time to decision day), and the Miami couple that didn't make it past the honeymoon - the show made them do stupid exercises like writing letters to each other and dragged out them telling friends and family that they were getting divorced.

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12 minutes ago, suzeecat said:

Chris:  Paige, I want you to meet my ex so you (and all of America) can see how FINE she is and why I am not attracted to you.  You just don't meet my very high standards.

Paige:  Oh, that's fine Chris.  I'm over all this and wish you the best.  Seeya.

Ex: Wait just a minute, I'm over Chris, too!  I don't want him!

Emptyhanded Chris:  This did not go the way I planned. 

SOOOO SATISFYING TO WATCH!!!

Paige is as attractive as Chris’s ex. They have very different features but are on the same level of attractiveness. He’s acting like Paige is ugly. Chris doesn’t like dark skinned girls and equates light skin with attractiveness. That is the real reason why he thinks Paige is not attractive. 

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8 hours ago, Racj82 said:

Unpopular opinion on sure but why should he? Maybe not be as extreme as he has been but why should he just believe her? She's living her life like she's still single. Who's to say it stops at partying? Who's to say there was never a friend's with benefits situation with these guys? Obviously Virginia is that person but I don't mind his reservations. She's a walking reservation. 

Again, my problem with Erik is that he told Virginia on their honeymoon that he didn't believe in platonic relationships between men and women. After he made this statement, she said something about how she had a lot of male friends. She even related the story back to Clara later and she was crying over it. Erik's control issues are his issues and have nothing to do with Virginia. It's being excused because she seems to have a problem with alcohol and his control is masking itself as concern for her wellbeing but if he was with any other woman there would be an issue. 

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6 minutes ago, Soup333 said:

Again, my problem with Erik is that he told Virginia on their honeymoon that he didn't believe in platonic relationships between men and women. After he made this statement, she said something about how she had a lot of male friends. She even related the story back to Clara later and she was crying over it. Erik's control issues are his issues and have nothing to do with Virginia. It's being excused because she seems to have a problem with alcohol and his control is masking itself as concern for her wellbeing but if he was with any other woman there would be an issue. 

I think my problem with him is that he seems to be acting like her father rather than her husband. That seems to be the worst thing you can do with someone like her.

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Unless Haley says she was in some way traumatized by having sex with Jake, I don't believe it and that is saying Jake is harming her in some way which isn't fair. Having sex which is not fulfilling is not trauma for heaven's sake! I think she regrets having sex with him because she thinks she is better than him. Her friends suggested she is usually alone which means she thinks no is good enough for her. I have a good friend that is now over 50 and is still hoping to find someone she thinks "deserves her". She is a great person but has passed  by so many nice, good looking men because all she could see were flaws. I do think Jake is quirky and not to everyone tastes, but Haley isn't giving him a chance.

I like both Clara and Ryan but he seems way too intense and serious for a 29 year old. I hope they can work things out. Virginia always looks wasted and although I don't really like Erik, I just don't see him putting up with her constant drinking. How could they ever have a family? The experts really needed to place someone closer to his age with him. Vincent and Brianna will be fine, they just have to get used to each other,

I don't understand the whole Chris and Paige thing. What was his purpose in getting them together? I do think the women handled the meeting with class, while Chris was upset because he wanted some kind of cat fight over him.  

 

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1 hour ago, Retired at last said:

I don't usually watch Unfiltered because I don't like the host. But, is Paige on every single time???? I am so sick of both of them sucking up so much air time. I do, at this point, think that all three of them are in on this.

HUMBO: Chri$ is in some one sided feud with JOtis so Paige is fulfilling her contract reliving her worst nightmare and must be taking PO$' turn also.

I was surprised when Clara announced to everyone that she hadn't even seen Ryan without a shirt and hope that she was just joking. 

HUMBO: Clara is so horny for Ry Ry that she will start eating everything in her fridge and pantry to have something to do with her hands and mouth....

I really need Brianna to stop the laughing at every single thing she says.

HUMBO: you can't unhear Bevis and Butthead can you....

Terrible season. I might actually be able to mean it when I say (as I do every year) that I am done.

HUMBO: Tradition! (say it like they sing in Fiddler on the Roof)

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10 minutes ago, Coltee Gal said:

Paige is as attractive as Chris’s ex. They have very different features but are on the same level of attractiveness. He’s acting like Paige is ugly. Chris doesn’t like dark skinned girls and equates light skin with attractiveness. That is the real reason why he thinks Paige is not attractive. 

Yep. I actually wouldn't call the ex light-skinned, but she's lighter than Paige and has more Eurocentric features.

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3 minutes ago, Madding crowd said:

Unless Haley says she was in some way traumatized by having sex with Jake, I don't believe it and that is saying Jake is harming her in some way which isn't fair. Having sex which is not fulfilling is not trauma for heaven's sake! I think she regrets having sex with him because she thinks she is better than him. Her friends suggested she is usually alone which means she thinks no is good enough for her. I have a good friend that is now over 50 and is still hoping to find someone she thinks "deserves her". She is a great person but has passed  by so many nice, good looking men because all she could see were flaws. I do think Jake is quirky and not to everyone tastes, but Haley isn't giving him a chance.

I like both Clara and Ryan but he seems way too intense and serious for a 29 year old. I hope they can work things out. Virginia always looks wasted and although I don't really like Erik, I just don't see him putting up with her constant drinking. How could they ever have a family? The experts really needed to place someone closer to his age with him. Vincent and Brianna will be fine, they just have to get used to each other,

I don't understand the whole Chris and Paige thing. What was his purpose in getting them together? I do think the women handled the meeting with class, while Chris was upset because he wanted some kind of cat fight over him.  

 

One thing I have learned from this show is that if someone likes someone they will ignore several red flags that are horribly obvious to everyone else. This has happened with Eric/Virginia and much worse, Paige/Chris.

The inverse is if someone is not into the stranger they married then nothing seems to change their minds. A lot of the vloggers think Jake is quite the catch but Haley has already put him in the NO category.

This was true for Dave/Amber, Brandon/Taylor, Molly/Jon, etc...

The only two exceptions were Jamie O/Doug and Jephte/Shawniece. 

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34 minutes ago, Coltee Gal said:

Paige is as attractive as Chris’s ex

Nah. Hard disagree.

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45 minutes ago, Empress1 said:

After a certain point with the same partner, yes, everybody should expect orgasms because by then everybody should know what everybody likes. But the first time with a new partner, especially a person you don’t know, is often not mind-blowing.

I would hold it against a guy if I’d showed and told him what I liked and he didn’t do it (I would just end it), but I definitely wouldn’t hold it against him if the first time were just OK. That’s not unusual.

I don’t think Haley is traumatized either; I think she’s not into him and as everyone in her life has pointed out, including her, she rejects men quickly and for superficial reasons, and that’s what she’s doing. She’s not used to not being able to cut and run, and I think that’s what’s freaking her out.

There are a lot of women that go years without an orgasm. Even with steady partners. That's why I made my statement. I don't see holding it against a guy. Even if you know your partner really well, it's just not an automatic thing. Everyone always WANTS an orgasm but sometimes that might not be the case or a host of different reasons.

But, if Haley really is the type to often look for the exit, something as common as that could be enough of deal breaker. First time or no.

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Erik should ask Virginia if it is OK if he spends the night on the couch of the female flight attendants when he is away for work.

I wonder what both Erik and Virginia's families think when watching Virginia and her heavy drinking on the show.

I think Jacob will be fine when this is over.  All the 80s loving females will be getting in touch with him after the show.  

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