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17 hours ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

FTFY.  Her behavior is egregious.  She is looking for any excuse to justify the abuse and her ill treatment of others. I absolutely agree he needs to get himself and the kids away from her.  His silence and acceptance is complicit agreement that her actions are okay.  Their children should not be taught that this is a healthy relationship. 

He’s doing what’s called topping from the bottom. He’s as toxic and twisted as Butt Wind. He uses her crazy to make himself sympathetic. He’s the more insidious one, Butt Witch puts her ugliness on front street and is too stupid to manipulate. He enjoys this shit. 

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8 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Remember that one reunion show where the women were ganging up on Lynne Curtain and she started crying and said she wasn't used to women being mean? I remember that in that moment only one woman felt badly and held her hand and tried to comfort her... I believe it was  Tamra. 

I remember that. It was a genuine moment, and I felt badly for Lynne who I liked. But man was she an awful parent. The best thing I can say about her poor kids is that didn’t go the way of Niki Catsouros.

They went to Billie Swamp Safari one year, and Lynne was all fucked up on pain pills and fell asleep in the office on a couch. I miss Lynne. 

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8 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

I remember that. It was a genuine moment, and I felt badly for Lynne who I liked. But man was she an awful parent. The best thing I can say about her poor kids is that didn’t go the way of Niki Catsouros.

They went to Billie Swamp Safari one year, and Lynne was all fucked up on pain pills and fell asleep in the office on a couch. I miss Lynne. 

I don’t know who Niki Catsouros is, but Lynn’s kids have been in and out of jail, on drugs, do porn, and are an overall mess. They never stood a chance with those idiots as parents. I swear they filmed some scenes high.

Ha, but not only was she on pain pills during that trip, she was also recovering from a face lift she had no money to pay for. The outrage about that was great. Oh, memories...

It was messy then but it was a fun messy. So awful & unwatchable now.

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23 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

We don't know that she doesn't care.  As the other ladies were sparring and the discussion got heated, you could see how uncomfortable she was.  It's a big assumption to say that someone doesn't care simply because they didn't want to jump into the fray.  BW was sitting there acting as judge, jury, and executioner over the ladies, and Kelly kept digging herself into a hole, so I can understand why she didn't want to touch that subject with a 10 foot pole.  

Someone's silence doesn't necessarily mean they're indifferent to issues and to other people.   Her daily actions towards others would mean more than anything she could say.  For example, many of us live quiet lives but we go about our day showing respect and kindness to those we meet.    I would hope that Shannon and the other HWs do the same.

 

All I’m going to say is that Shannon saying that “she’s not political” when issues like racial injustice are discussed says plenty about what she believes and where she stands. To make racism about politics is insane and a shame, bc it’s not a political issue...but people make it one and that is terribly sad. It doesn’t take much for someone to just say a simple  “I believe that everyone should be treated fairly or live their lives without fear” or whatever. It could have ended there for her. I don’t think people need to make a big deal about “supporting communities” and Brawnwyn’s performative activism and self-righteousness can take several seats, but Shannon made it very clear that she’s very much an asshole who refuses to function or think outside of her precious privileged bubble.

I also still can’t believe she went on and on about being accused of saying  Gina’s  house is “sad” but spent one minute on the Brawnwyn offering her kid her dealer’s number and nonchalantly moved on. What in the actual F.

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15 hours ago, jaybird2 said:

i really feel that kelly finally sees the 'writing on the wall'  that's she could very well be fired hence her statement that she would quit before filming with bw.  she's either been fired like dorinda or knows it is close (but that's goes against her dna!) satan andy  loves nasty train wrecks and that's why he's kept kelly on so long.   now he has bw to fill kelly's  shoes.  plus he has many people saying kelly's misinformation is dangerous.

andy was on some pod cast this morning answering someone who said bravo should cancel the oc.  he said pretty much said that wasn't going to happen but it could be revamped.  

I stumbled on one of his comments yesterday on Twitter and the Tweet was that OC should be cancelled....he commented pretty much the same thing you heard on the podcast. He said "cancelled or REBOOT".  

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45 minutes ago, DeeplyShallow said:

 

I also still can’t believe she went on and on about being accused of saying  Gina’s  house is “sad” but spent one minute on the Brawnwyn offering her kid her dealer’s number and nonchalantly moved on. What in the actual F.

My guess would be 1) it didnt happen on the show so how much time could they really spend on it 2) it involved her underage kid and drugs and could have gone sideways pretty easily

I was glad she brought it up but also cringed a bit because that could have escalated quickly against her kid.

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There are nicknames for housewives on all of these boards. But I think Braunwyn wins the prize for the most nicknames. Brown wind, brownie, brown stain, butt wind, shit stain...to name a few. I get a laugh everytime I see a new one, so thanks to the posters for my morning smile!

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45 minutes ago, HotHW said:

My guess would be 1) it didnt happen on the show so how much time could they really spend on it 2) it involved her underage kid and drugs and could have gone sideways pretty easily

I was glad she brought it up but also cringed a bit because that could have escalated quickly against her kid.

But then why bring it up?

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1 hour ago, DeeplyShallow said:

All I’m going to say is that Shannon saying that “she’s not political” when issues like racial injustice are discussed says plenty about what she believes and where she stands.

Since I don't know how Shannon feels about these things, the whole situation came across to me as her being caught in the crossfire of the other HWs argument about whether they were invited to the rally or not, then it escalated from there and she didn't want any part of that conversation, so she blurted out that she's not political.  They really should think about how they're going to answer questions that will probably come up, but most of them don't think farther than what their next cocktail will be.   I won't assume how she thinks and feels based on that one sentence. 

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9 hours ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Somebody needs to tell Shannon that Spanx and duct tape are NOT organic!  What will she do?  Does she need to have crystals embedded into her abdomen to ward off the evil? Does she see Dr. Moon after wearing them so he can use his Twister spinner to see what damage she has done to herself? 

Shannon wouldn’t need to suck in her mid-section if she’d stick to lemon water, instead of guzzling vodka and tequila - but Dr. Moon could jab her in the ear for good measure!

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2 hours ago, DeeplyShallow said:

It was messy then but it was a fun messy. So awful & unwatchable now.

I agree.

I've been watching NY, Beverly Hills, and OC franchises for about 4 years and enjoyed these narcissistic rich air heads drink and argue and scream about nothing. 

But this season all three shows have been downers... Dorinda, Denise and now the mess that is Brauny.

Its just not fun anymore... for me anyway. Plus we’re all stuck in this depressing pandemic thing.... sigh:::

 

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31 minutes ago, nexxie said:

Shannon wouldn’t need to suck in her mid-section if she’d stick to lemon water, instead of guzzling vodka and tequila - but Dr. Moon could jab her in the ear for good measure!

I'd guess that mummy-wrapping yourself would be rather uncomfortable!  

1 minute ago, Pondlass1 said:

But this season all three shows have been downers... Dorinda, Denise and now the mess that is Brauny.

I gave up on the BH's HWs, so all I've got left is the OC and NYC, which are sinking quickly in my humble opinion. 

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I think Shannon couldn't figure out how to handle Brauny's dry tears.  Brauny had that performance planned.  She was ready if anyone called her out on her behavior.  The women were right not to feed into it.  Brauny's plan was to make herself the victim.  Backing off took away her power to escalate her supposed show of great remorse.  When they didn't all rush to her side to comfort her, she had to try to amp it up to see if she could get the reaction she wanted.  

Abusers will often, when confronted, go into extreme shows of remorse, attempting to get people to comfort them, thereby minimizing the abuse in their minds and making the others question their role in the behavior.  I will again say she is dry, not sober, and a terrible person. 

Emily going back to talk to her could have been seen as caving in.  However, she didn't really comfort her as much as she told her to suck it up in a more gentle way.  

3 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

He’s doing what’s called topping from the bottom. He’s as toxic and twisted as Butt Wind. He uses her crazy to make himself sympathetic. He’s the more insidious one, Butt Witch puts her ugliness on front street and is too stupid to manipulate. He enjoys this shit. 

I can see him getting off on the humiliation.  Now I am thinking their "threesomes" were really cuckolded husband scenes where she ties him to a chair, gags him with his ridiculous statement necklace, and has sex with someone else while "forcing" him to watch.  Meanwhile he gets off on the whole scene. 

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20 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Once again, Brawny did what she does best: when confronted with her shitty behavior, she breaks down in tears and runs away,... someone follows and comforts her, and somehow, she's the victim.

 

This is not a new strategy. It's a time-honored Ho-wife tradition, and an intense form of gaslighting. Jacqueline Laurita, Brandi Glanville, and Bethenny Frankel all have this move down pat.

What's so infuriating is that it's easy to spot and call out, but few others ever do so. Or if they do, it doesn't end up on camera. And Andy often falls for it hook, line, and sinker and doesn't take the perpetrators to task for it. 

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I'm in the camp of Shannon could have easily said:  "Black lives matter.  We must do better" and ended it there.  I also do not like when people equate this to a political issue. 

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4 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

I remember that. It was a genuine moment, and I felt badly for Lynne who I liked. But man was she an awful parent. The best thing I can say about her poor kids is that didn’t go the way of Niki Catsouros.

They went to Billie Swamp Safari one year, and Lynne was all fucked up on pain pills and fell asleep in the office on a couch. I miss Lynne. 

Both Curtain girls are porn stars! The younger one has been arrested several times for DUI and drugs. Both Lynn and her ex were inept parents. They didn't have a clue. 

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7 minutes ago, BrownBear2012 said:

Both Curtain girls are porn stars! The younger one has been arrested several times for DUI and drugs. Both Lynn and her ex were inept parents. They didn't have a clue. 

Awful parents. Still have a soft spot for Lynne.

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8 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

Awful parents. Still have a soft spot for Lynne.

Me too...she was sweet and not suited for the barracudas she had to deal with.

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5 hours ago, Mu Shu said:

He’s doing what’s called topping from the bottom. He’s as toxic and twisted as Butt Wind. He uses her crazy to make himself sympathetic. He’s the more insidious one, Butt Witch puts her ugliness on front street and is too stupid to manipulate. He enjoys this shit. 

This makes sense. His whole thing is so strange. There is something dark keeping these two together. The ugliest part of their love story is that they chose to bring 7 kids into it.

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5 hours ago, HotHW said:

My guess would be 1) it didnt happen on the show so how much time could they really spend on it 2) it involved her underage kid and drugs and could have gone sideways pretty easily

I was glad she brought it up but also cringed a bit because that could have escalated quickly against her kid.

Also, Andy is the one who spent so little time on the subject of one of his howives offering her drug dealer's number to the child of another of his howives. He is the one who chose to move on rather quickly. I would imagine that Bravo was not anxious to spend too much time on the subject. So once again Brauny pretty much skated on her reprehensible behavior. 

Maybe Andy and Brauny share a drug dealer? I don't for a minute think that Andy almost fell when he went to get up at the end of the reunion, because he had been sitting for so long. When he smiled/smirked at Kelly when she was talking about the looting and burning of buildings in NYC, he looked stoned. 

I am always amazed that Andy and Anderson Cooper are such good friends. AC always strikes me as a decent person with morals. Andy, not so much. 

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5 hours ago, TV Diva Queen said:

I stumbled on one of his comments yesterday on Twitter and the Tweet was that OC should be cancelled....he commented pretty much the same thing you heard on the podcast. He said "cancelled or REBOOT".  

Andy says alot of things that never materialize...he said a few years ago that he had no interest in doing anymore new Housewives shows. Then a year later came the Dallas franchise and now the Salt Lake one...also Potomac. So much for that comment. Haven't watched any of these newer franchises but from the ads I see of Salt Lake, it looks like a mess. 

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So now we know what happened with Shari. She wanted Buttwind to leave Sean for her but Buttwind wasn't ready. More like Buttwind wasn't going to leave the person funding her lifestyle. No, she wants a girlfriend who is ok with her still being married. Gina is right, why would she divorce him?

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3 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

When he smiled/smirked at Kelly when she was talking about the looting and burning of buildings in NYC, he looked stoned. 

I wasn't sure if he was drunk, stoned or didn't believe Kelly when she made that statement (which is the truth).  That wasn't the only city that saw violence erupt at that time.

2 hours ago, Boo Boo said:

I'm in the camp of Shannon could have easily said:  "Black lives matter.  We must do better" and ended it there. 

She could've, but maybe that's not what she would've said.  She might have a lot of thoughts on the matter, but didn't feel like trying to articulate those thoughts during the reunion/shit show.  Kelly should've taken a cue from her and just stayed mum.  I'm not saying that people can't express their opinions, but there was no way Shannon could've had a civil discussion on the matter with BW over there rolling her eyes and acting like they were beneath her for not showing up at the rally.   I'd rather Shannon not say anything than say something insincere just to appease people.  

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17 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I wasn't sure if he was drunk, stoned or didn't believe Kelly when she made that statement (which is the truth).  That wasn't the only city that saw violence erupt at that time.

 

That is why I couldn't figure out the smirk. Doesn't Andy live in NYC? 

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1 hour ago, itsadryheat said:

This makes sense. His whole thing is so strange. There is something dark keeping these two together. The ugliest part of their love story is that they chose to bring 7 kids into it.

From last season, they seemed to (want to) give the impression they were the cool, young, new age couple from Miami with the hip, swinging lifestlye that was largely based around drinking large quantities of alcohol and having lots of sex. I was almost convinced they were in the porn industry. They both seemed pretty skeevy, to me. It's no surprise that one of them going sober would throw off the dynamics of their marriage. I think they have a multilayer codependent relationship. 

I hope they hired good nannies

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20 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

That is why I couldn't figure out the smirk. Doesn't Andy live in NYC? 

Me too.  I think he lives there, but maybe he was somewhere else at that time.   Either way, every city that was being looted and burned down was all over the news.  He couldn't have missed it!  

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Let's back away from the looting and burning of cities conversation. While Kelly made a comment, this is not the focus of the show and is going to bring us well off topic. 

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59 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

She could've, but maybe that's not what she would've said.  She might have a lot of thoughts on the matter, but didn't feel like trying to articulate those thoughts during the reunion/shit show.  Kelly should've taken a cue from her and just stayed mum.  I'm not saying that people can't express their opinions, but there was no way Shannon could've had a civil discussion on the matter with BW over there rolling her eyes and acting like they were beneath her for not showing up at the rally.   I'd rather Shannon not say anything than say something insincere just to appease people.  

I didn't say those were the exact words she SHOULD'VE used, but in my view, equality is not a political issue like revamping social security and Shannon could very easily have shown she is an ally.  Not to mention: since when have any of the RH's worried about having a civil conversation?  

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48 minutes ago, Boo Boo said:

I didn't say those were the exact words she SHOULD'VE used, but in my view, equality is not a political issue like revamping social security and Shannon could very easily have shown she is an ally.  

She could've, but she chose not to, and that doesn't bother me.  I don't look to these women for their opinions on such matters.  They're usually just a bunch of drunks who are lucky if they know what time of day it is.  Shannon probably couldn't think straight anyway being pulled so tight by whatever form of duct tape that was!  

I was just glad to see Gina doing so well.  Elizabeth's story keeps getting weirder and weirder.  An 18-wheeler is what her Mom drove?  Did I hear that correctly?  Hmm, okay.   Emily made it through the reunion unscathed.  BW needs to go home and figure things out.  That's one effed up situation there.  At least Jolie is doing well with Rick as her stepfather.  Maybe she has a chance at some kind of normalcy now.  

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11 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

She could've, but she chose not to, and that doesn't bother me.  I don't look to these women for their opinions on such matters.  They're usually just a bunch of drunks who are lucky if they know what time of day it is.  Shannon probably couldn't think straight anyway being pulled so tight by whatever form of duct tape that was!  

I was just glad to see Gina doing so well.  Elizabeth's story keeps getting weirder and weirder.  An 18-wheeler is what her Mom drove?  Did I hear that correctly?  Hmm, okay.   Emily made it through the reunion unscathed.  BW needs to go home and figure things out.  That's one effed up situation there.  At least Jolie is doing well with Rick as her stepfather.  Maybe she has a chance at some kind of normalcy now.  

*Dies laughing* at Shannon not being able to think straight!  I understand your point!  

Def. love me some Gina, and oddly I'm digging Elizabeth as a HW now!  Yes, at least Jolie has Rick.  I'm trying to figure out how a respectable journalist ends up with Kelly and the only thing I got is her volatility excites him.

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27 minutes ago, Boo Boo said:

I'm trying to figure out how a respectable journalist ends up with Kelly and the only thing I got is her volatility excites him.

I think she falls in love quickly.  Remember the doctor?  I thought he was her soulmate.  Rick seems like a decent guy.  I've seen a few of his news reports over the years.  Those were always informative.  They do seem like an odd couple though.  I never would've put the two of them together.  He might want to hang on to his wallet from now on.   Like most men though, he's probably thinking with his smaller head at the moment, so I can understand his lapse in judgment.  😉  

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6 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I think she falls in love quickly.  Remember the doctor?  I thought he was her soulmate.  Rick seems like a decent guy.  I've seen a few of his news reports over the years.  Those were always informative.  They do seem like an odd couple though.  I never would've put the two of them together.  He might want to hang on to his wallet from now on.   Like most men though, he's probably thinking with his smaller head at the moment, so I can understand his lapse in judgment.  😉  

According the Kelly, that small head is mighty big.  Maybe it's his dominant head.  And, I'll let myself out . . . .  😁

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3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

She could've, but she chose not to, and that doesn't bother me.  I don't look to these women for their opinions on such matters.  They're usually just a bunch of drunks who are lucky if they know what time of day it is.  Shannon probably couldn't think straight anyway being pulled so tight by whatever form of duct tape that was!  

I was just glad to see Gina doing so well.  Elizabeth's story keeps getting weirder and weirder.  An 18-wheeler is what her Mom drove?  Did I hear that correctly?  Hmm, okay.   Emily made it through the reunion unscathed.  BW needs to go home and figure things out.  That's one effed up situation there.  At least Jolie is doing well with Rick as her stepfather.  Maybe she has a chance at some kind of normalcy now.  

I gave a side eye to Elizabeth's 18 wheeler comment, too. I am pretty sure you need a special license to drive one, and did even back when Elizabeth's mom left the cult. Sometimes it seems like Elizabeth adds details to the story - whether out of nervousness or just not thinking before she talks - that makes one question the truthfulness of what she is saying. Maybe it was just a big truck and she blurted out 18 wheeler? I am still undecided on whether I like Elizabeth or not, or believe some/all of what she says, or not. 

I am glad that Jolie likes Rick, but I do wonder where Michael stands in her life? He often seemed to be the stable parent in Jolie's life, and it is odd that his name is never mentioned any longer. I do remember reading awhile back that Kelly was mad with Michael at times when he would not change custody days with her so she could be with Rick (when he was still living in NYC). I hope Jolie is still seeing Michael, and he is just not mentioned because he does not want to be. 

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3 hours ago, ChitChat said:

Me too.  I think he lives there, but maybe he was somewhere else at that time.   Either way, every city that was being looted and burned down was all over the news.  He couldn't have missed it! 

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25 minutes ago, JD5166 said:

But we care, we do!

And in case you forgot, because we care so deeply, we're better people than you!

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57 minutes ago, UsernameFatigue said:

I gave a side eye to Elizabeth's 18 wheeler comment, too. I am pretty sure you need a special license to drive one, and did even back when Elizabeth's mom left the cult. Sometimes it seems like Elizabeth adds details to the story - whether out of nervousness or just not thinking before she talks - that make one question the truthfulness of what she is saying. Maybe it was just a big truck and she blurted out 18 wheeler? I am still undecided on whether I like Elizabeth or not, or believe some/all of what she says, or not. 

Yes, I thought that sounded suspicious, how much stuff could they have anyway and an 18 wheeler would certainly stand out if they are trying to make a hasty exit from a cult.  Maybe it was just a big truck and Elizabeth has no idea how many wheels are on trucks?

I am sure the next time she tells this story it will be different.

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9 hours ago, DeeplyShallow said:

But then why bring it up?

If I were her I would have brought it up if the tone of the reunion was turning into the "poor Brawynwn the alcoholic " hour (which it was IMO). If B wasnt so high and mighty with her redemption maybe Shannon would have overlooked it. Who knows. At least that's how I would have handled it.

Once it was out I think Shannon played it right, she accepted the bullshit apology and moved on. But at least now we all know there was a very different side to B and her behavior back then. 

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22 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Yes, I thought that sounded suspicious, how much stuff could they have anyway and an 18 wheeler would certainly stand out if they are trying to make a hasty exit from a cult.  Maybe it was just a big truck and Elizabeth has no idea how many wheels are on trucks?

I am sure the next time she tells this story it will be different.

I was kind of thinking that too. Maybe, from a child's perspective (how old was she?) it was a big truck and she just assumed it was an 18 wheeler, when it was just a U-Haul.

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5 hours ago, BrownBear2012 said:

 Haven't watched any of these newer franchises but from the ads I see of Salt Lake, it looks like a mess. 

The women are a trainwreck but the change of scenery is refreshing....and quite beautiful (said the east coast girl who only travels to the beach).

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52 minutes ago, HotHW said:

If I were her I would have brought it up if the tone of the reunion was turning into the "poor Brawynwn the alcoholic " hour (which it was IMO). If B wasnt so high and mighty with her redemption maybe Shannon would have overlooked it. Who knows. At least that's how I would have handled it.

Once it was out I think Shannon played it right, she accepted the bullshit apology and moved on. But at least now we all know there was a very different side to B and her behavior back then. 

I have a different perspective. I think B was trying to turn it into the poor me, I’m an alcoholic tour (with Andy’s assistance), but she wasn’t at all successful because not one of those women were on her side. Shannon was trying to deflect off of her and get revenge - I just read something on Reality blurb and Shannon admitted that she brought it up for revenge bc B was trying to call her out as an alcoholic.

So, to me, Shannon is trash just like B and Kelly. Because she’ll “protect” her daughter by keeping quiet until she gets offended. Then let’s drop a bomb and forget about it a minute later. Meanwhile, it’s out on national tv, all over SM, and other forms of media. Shannon is a piece of crap- I couldn’t care less about B but don’t drag your child into it. If you want to hurt someone and you want revenge, find another way.

https://realityblurb.com/2021/01/29/shannon-beador-says-braunwyn-didnt-offer-drugs-to-daughter-but-rather-where-to-get-it-and-programmed-number-in-daughters-phone-as-cool-mom-plus-she-talks-elizabeths-bisexual-s/

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10 minutes ago, DeeplyShallow said:

I have a different perspective. I think B was trying to turn it into the poor me, I’m an alcoholic tour (with Andy’s assistance), but she wasn’t at all successful because not one of those women were on her side. Shannon was trying to deflect off of her and get revenge - I just read something on Reality blurb and Shannon admitted that she brought it up for revenge bc B was trying to call her out as an alcoholic.

So, to me, Shannon is trash just like B and Kelly. Because she’ll “protect” her daughter by keeping quiet until she gets offended. Then let’s drop a bomb and forget about it a minute later. Meanwhile, it’s out on national tv, all over SM, and other forms of media. Shannon is a piece of crap- I couldn’t care less about B but don’t drag your child into it. If you want to hurt someone and you want revenge, find another way.

https://realityblurb.com/2021/01/29/shannon-beador-says-braunwyn-didnt-offer-drugs-to-daughter-but-rather-where-to-get-it-and-programmed-number-in-daughters-phone-as-cool-mom-plus-she-talks-elizabeths-bisexual-s/

Ok. A few things from that article (thank you for linking):

* As you said, the Shannon using the story for revenge is beyond f’ed up. I know they all do this with dirt and it’s part of the HW playbook, but when it involves your minor child, that’s just another level. Your children shouldn’t be pawns in the HW game, Shannon. It’s bad enough that they already are pawns in the divorce, but using them like on the show to get back at a castmate? WTF?!

* Braunwyn literally put her number in Stella’s phone under “Cool Mom.” OMFG. I can’t. Was she trying to be tongue-in-cheek? I mean, I know she likely wasn’t because BW is one of the least self aware HWs, but really?! Even if I approved of her sharing her drug hookup with a 14-year-old (I don’t), calling yourself a “cool mom” is the opposite of cool, BW.

* Shannon thought the reveal about Elizabeth’s sexuality was a “shocker” because she has a boyfriend? What does that have to do with anything? Are bisexual people supposed to have both a girlfriend and a boyfriend at all times? Do they think that’s how bisexuality works? I mean, that’s how Braunwyn works, but not how most people work. These women are so clueless about the world. 
 

Even though we are unlikely to get it, this whole cast needs to go (Gina can stay, but I don’t particularly care whether she stays or goes).

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2 minutes ago, MrsWitter said:

Ok. A few things from that article (thank you for linking):

* As you said, the Shannon using the story for revenge is beyond f’ed up. I know they all do this with dirt and it’s part of the HW playbook, but when it involves your minor child, that’s just another level. Your children shouldn’t be pawns in the HW game, Shannon. It’s bad enough that they already are pawns in the divorce, but using them like on the show to get back at a castmate? WTF?!

* Braunwyn literally put her number in Stella’s phone under “Cool Mom.” OMFG. I can’t. Was she trying to be tongue-in-cheek? I mean, I know she likely wasn’t because BW is one of the least self aware HWs, but really?! Even if I approved of her sharing her drug hookup with a 14-year-old (I don’t), calling yourself a “cool mom” is the opposite of cool, BW.

* Shannon thought the reveal about Elizabeth’s sexuality was a “shocker” because she has a boyfriend? What does that have to do with anything? Are bisexual people supposed to have both a girlfriend and a boyfriend at all times? Do they think that’s how bisexuality works? I mean, that’s how Braunwyn works, but not how most people work. These women are so clueless about the world. 
 

Even though we are unlikely to get it, this whole cast needs to go (Gina can stay, but I don’t particularly care whether she stays or goes).

Yep. That entire article was a trainwreck. They need to shut this franchise down (or, keep Gina I guess and can the rest, as you said). I don’t think they need to continue trying with OC though. Put it to rest, it’s over.

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45 minutes ago, DeeplyShallow said:

I don’t think they need to continue trying with OC though. Put it to rest, it’s over.

It seems to me that all of the HWs shows are skating on thin ice these days.  They've all about run their course.  I'm down to watching just 2 of them, but I'm getting tired of the shows turning into a big 'ole drunkfest.  I wanted to give the Utah one a try, but jeez, after watching the promos I decided not to waste my time on it.  Andy Cohen sure seems to enjoy what he's created though.  I've soured on him too. 

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28 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

It seems to me that all of the HWs shows are skating on thin ice these days.  They've all about run their course.  I'm down to watching just 2 of them, but I'm getting tired of the shows turning into a big 'ole drunkfest.  I wanted to give the Utah one a try, but jeez, after watching the promos I decided not to waste my time on it.  Andy Cohen sure seems to enjoy what he's created though.  I've soured on him too. 

RHSLC is another trainwreck. One shrill, mentally unstable try-hard, one shady preacher who very likely scammed her congregation (oh, and who married her step-grandfather), another who’s trying to make her unbearably annoying son happen, another sobriety story- but a parent. Meh. The scenery is beautiful though, but everything and everyone seems contrived.

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Reboot please 🙋‍♀️
I want a whole new cast.... I am bored of these people and I’m sure they are bored of each other. Part of the fun is getting to know about the women on these shows. Now I think we possibly might know too much 😆

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Did the drug conversation between Stella and Cool Mom happen before the vow renewal? If so, Shannon isn’t any better than Brownie. She was so trashed drunk in front of her kids during the vow renewal, who knows what behavior they were exposed to from their mom.

Shannan's drug reveal at the reunion, being motivated by revenge for calling her an alcoholic rather than justice, adds to her level of pathetic. I still believe it was planned not an impulsive reaction to being called out on her drinking.

Kelly, said something to Brownie that she probably offered her own kids stuff all the time and doesn’t remember and Brownie actually said, “I probably do”, like it was nothing?!

In Elizabeth speak, would non practicing heterosexual mean celibate?

Honestly, who expects to hear commentary of depth or insight regarding current events from any of these great thinkers / communicators? They need to stay in their OC lane and keep the commentary to  judging, gossip, and bad behavior within their own bravo pod and stay away from world events that are above their pay grade. Stick to the shallow or made up stuff ladies.

Not buying anything Brownie is selling, Her high end, photographed social justice warrior, alcoholic, lesbian, addidtion counselor, vow renewal wife and mother of 7 life, belongs on a Jerry Springer reboot.

Nothing interesting or entertaining about not fun Shannon.

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4 hours ago, HotHW said:

The women are a trainwreck but the change of scenery is refreshing....and quite beautiful (said the east coast girl who only travels to the beach).

It is a beautiful part of the country...and the skiing is fantastic out there.

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I haven't watched part 2 yet. But from what I noticed shannon is treated with kid gloves. I don't know why so many people feel sorry for her. It disgusts me. She shouldn't be on reality tv. Even since her first season she has been whining about everything. I think she's so liked because a lot of women of her heritage feel like they can relate to her. She has a long term ex husband that does not want her at all and she's very average looking. She grew up with a silver spoon but acts like she was born with absolutely nothing. I can't stand her. I hope she is off the show next season. Kelly isn't even worth my time to type about her truths. As kelly wants to fit in with them so bad. Kelly has never fit in even in her first season. The only ones I care for are Emily and Braunwyn.

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I second one of the posters about Emily's little kid accidentally playing rough with one of her pets. People were acting like this innocent child was a murderer. But kelly saying racist stuff is funny to people. And they're justifying her behavior smh. A grown ass woman saying really horrible stuff because she doesn't like the color of another minority's skin. That's why America is in the shape it is in now.

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Reminder: This is not the debate Covid protocols or discuss Fox News thread.  Stick to the housewives. 

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