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I was a regular reader of Celebritology back when it existed (RIP, sniff, sniff).   Britney was covered on the regular, until she went into full on meltdown.   Then it was deemed cruel to cover her mental health issues in a fluff column where we (gently) snarked on celebs.   

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Repuposed from somewhere else, the case against Justin Timerberlake in regards to Britney (Janet Jackson deserves this same treatment - this covers (or uncovers, heh) it as best as I've seen it):

How long has Justin Timberlake furthered his own career at the expense of Britney Spears?

Early 2002 - BS and JT break up.
September 2002 - JT's first solo song debuts and doesn't perform as expected
September 2002 - PR narrative of Britney cheated, Justin's heartbroken begins in earnest.  Justin appears on many magazine covers, including Details with the headline "...at least he got in Britney's pants." He also called her "clueless" for doing the movie Crossroads
September 2002 - When asked if he performed oral sex with BS, he says, “I did it. I’m dirty,”
October 2002 - Single peaks at 11, a disappointing showing.
November 2002 - (JT is dating Alyssa Milano) Barbara Walters interviews JT. He sings Horrible Woman:
So you had your chance to be my lover
And there's really something more undercover
And you know that ain't cool
So I said in an hour call your momma and tell her she better just come get you
Cause frankly, baby, you ain't worth the gas in my BMW
Thought our love was so strong
I guess I was dead wrong
But to look at it positively
Hey girl
At least you gave me another song about a horrible woman
And that's you, but its true
In the same interview, when asked if Britney kept to her desire to wait until marriage for sex, he scoffs and says, "sure."
November 2002 - Radio interview, "Did you fuck Britney Spears?"  [laughs] "YEAH I HIT IT."
December 2002 - releases Cry Me a River, with BS lookalike in video, gets him his first solo #1 and  1st grammy
2003- BS releases her album with Everytime, considered to be a public apology to JT
2003 - on Ellen, when asked if Cry Me a River is about Britney, JT literally sips tea
August 2003 - (JT is dating Cameron Diaz)  BS kisses Madonna at VMAs. JT goes on Sharon Osbourne and says he wasn't "upset," just not "impressed" with it. "If you're gonna do it, do it," he added. "I would have liked to see some tongue. Lick her face. That's hot lesbian action."
2006 - During his Man of the Year interview with GQ he says, "I felt like she had a couple of opportunities to just sort of stick up for me, and she didn't. Which is fine. But at that time, you know, I fought back, and that's the way I fought back. I used my mind. I came up with a song."
2006 - Britney is being destroyed in tabloids for erratic behavior, being accused of being a bad mother, accusations her marriage is on the rocks
December 2006 - JT releases What Goes Around...Comes Around
January 2007 - Britney files for divorce, kicking off extreme public meltdown and media feeding frenzy.
2007 - Justin perhaps cheats on Cameron Diaz with Jessica Biel
2007 - Makes a very thinly veiled reference to tell Britney (pointing to the camera - you know who you are) to stop drinking and don't get sloppy
2007 -  (JT is dating Jessica Biel) starts adding "I think she's crazy" multiple times to the beginning of Cry Me A River at concerts
2008 - when introducing Madonna's induction to hall of fame, JT makes fun of "Madonna wannabees" some of whom he may have dated.
2009 - Jokes on SNL about being pop stars pretending to be virgins, but "privately? He hit it." Also says, "sometimes in your life, you think you've found the one. But then you find out, she's just a bitch," before playing Cry Me A River
2011 - JT supposedly cheats on his wife with Oliva Munn
2013 - Continues to start Cry Me A River with the "you find out she's a bitch" line
2014 - makes fun of Britney's Vegas residency, saying it's scary to him, that's for retirement (I wish I could make $58MM a year in retirement, but ok)
2016 - brings up Britney hurting him in reference to writing Cry Me a River, saying it was "written in a time of pain, like everyone knows…”
2019 - JT supposed cheats on wife with Alisha Wainwright

I only threw in his own cheating allegations, because IMO that should make him retroactively more sympathetic if she did cheat (and cheat first).

I'm not blaming him for what happened to her singlehandedly.  I also think, at least at the beginning, he was himself very young and likely had a LOT of people telling him this was the path to take. But at some point, it's just like ENOUGH DUDE.  He didn't just passively benefit from a sexist system, he courted it and used it to his benefit.  What Goes Around came out at time it was clear to anyone, even if we were all making fun of it, that her life was falling apart and he's putting out lyrics implying he was on the verge of marrying her and this shit:  

heard you found out
That he's doing to you what you did to me
Ain't that the way it goes
When you cheated, girl
My heart bleeded, girl
So it goes without saying that you left me feeling hurt
Just a classic case scenario
Tale as old as time girl, you got what you deserved

That's FOUR years after they broke up. He's been dating Cameron Diaz for like 3 years at that point - longer than he dated Britney.  And he's seemingly and publicly gleeful she's getting what she "deserves." Looking back, it's clear he was punching down and he profited monetarily and in the public's good image of him.  He has painted himself still as the victim as late as (that I know of) 2016, over a decade after they broke up and well past the point anyone thought BS deserved anything but our sympathies.  Again, I'm not blaming him singlehandedly.  Not at all.  I think especially when it came to Janet Jackson, Les Moonves is CLEARLY the villain. But I don't think it's too much to ask JT to look over a timeline like the one above and come up with more than an apology for "missteps." But I do think he took advantage of a system designed to prop him up at her expense. Her career and her life were damaged by his actions.  He needs to take more accountability for his part in all that, that's all.

And holy shit, the things I will do rather than do my actual job, lol.

 

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Popples

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50 minutes ago, lasu said:

I think especially when it came to Janet Jackson, Les Moonves is CLEARLY the villain. But I don't think it's too much to ask JT to look over a timeline like the one above and come up with more than an apology for "missteps."

And yet he will always have the time and energy to capitalize from it.

Maybe I'm an asshole
Oops, did I take it too far?
Super Bowl!

 

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On 2/14/2021 at 10:47 PM, Kromm said:

Re: the whole revived "Free Britney" thing, and the accompanying reexamination of how she was treated in the first place... 

People were reminded at least one comedian tried to make this point back in 2007:

 

That was a great speech. Great insight.

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6 hours ago, andromeda331 said:

That was a great speech. Great insight.

It needs to be repeated  he did this at the height of her public breakdown  and was asking for grace for someone that a lot of people didn’t. 
Parts of the free Britney movement gets on Qanon levels, Craig does not.

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1 hour ago, Robert Lynch said:

Gina Carano says Disney pulled her Madolorian press after refusing to post apology

What a baby!

Hahahaaa! I refused to post a statement that my employer,  who notoriously fires people for less inflammatory behavior, and then I was randomly fired for continuing to post anti-Semitic nonsense.

In news that was overshadowed by her bigotry her costar who unlike her is a decent  actor, Pedro Pascal celebrated his sister coming out as trans.

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Whenever someone complains about “cancel culture”, I respond with “That’s how a free market economy works.” Employment at will, non-unionization, well that means people can get fired from their jobs for no damn reason at all, or a reason with which they don’t agree.

I will use “don’t like, don’t watch/hire” against people as a cudgel. 

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1 hour ago, BlackberryJam said:

Whenever someone complains about “cancel culture”, I respond with “That’s how a free market economy works.” Employment at will, non-unionization, well that means people can get fired from their jobs for no damn reason at all, or a reason with which they don’t agree.

Yep. 

I also love how all these people who say they've been "cancelled" keep going out there and talking about it all over the place. Maybe I have a different definition of "cancelled", but if you're able to go out there and still keep talking about what happened, and found a new job rather quickly besides, that doesn't sound like you've been all that "cancelled" to me. But what do I know? 

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biakbiak

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17 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

and found a new job rather quickly besides, that doesn't sound like you've been all that "cancelled" to me. But what do I know? 

I mean in this case her new job is making a yet to be written movie by Ben Shapiro so haaaahhaaAAhhhhhaahhhaHH! But accurate!

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3 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:

Whenever someone complains about “cancel culture”, I respond with “That’s how a free market economy works.” Employment at will, non-unionization, well that means people can get fired from their jobs for no damn reason at all, or a reason with which they don’t agree.

Yes.  If you say or do something that offends someone they have every right to not support your TV shows/movies/music/political career or whatever.  Nobody is under any obligation to blindly support someone and overlook/forgive/agree with anything they find offensive.  People are always confusing freedom of speech with freedom of consequences.

1 hour ago, Annber03 said:

I also love how all these people who say they've been "cancelled" keep going out there and talking about it all over the place. Maybe I have a different definition of "cancelled", but if you're able to go out there and still keep talking about what happened, and found a new job rather quickly besides, that doesn't sound like you've been all that "cancelled" to me. But what do I know? 

Very few people are really cancelled.  Although Stephen Collins seems to be permanently cancelled.

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3 hours ago, BlackberryJam said:

Whenever someone complains about “cancel culture”, I respond with “That’s how a free market economy works.”

I quote Kathleen Madigan and say, "No, there's no such thing as cancel culture.  It's just consequence culture."

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I have my own Freedom of Speech rant. Freedom of speech, as protected by the First Amendment, states Congress shall make no law... The First Amendment relates to government prohibiting speech. That means any website not owned by or run by any form of US government can kick you off at any point in time. That's why they have user agreements and Terms of Service available for you to read and most platforms stick to the ToS to ensure fair use and to attract people to the site.

 

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47 minutes ago, lurkerbee said:

The Tennessee legislature was considering a bill to erect a statue of Dolly Parton on the state's Capitol grounds. She has asked them to remove the bill. 

 

Dolly Parton is a gem.

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4 hours ago, lurkerbee said:

The Tennessee legislature was considering a bill to erect a statue of Dolly Parton on the state's Capitol grounds. She has asked them to remove the bill. 

 

Dolly has to be one of the sweetest people on the planet. Country isn't even my fave, but I just adore this woman. She's such a great role model for everyone. 

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3 hours ago, Robert Lynch said:

Kim Novak: The stupidest I could I have done

What a shame! She went full Joker.

I think she'd look fine if she didn't have that line across her face (giving the "Joker" look).

 

3 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

Dolly has to be one of the sweetest people on the planet. Country isn't even my fave, but I just adore this woman. She's such a great role model for everyone. 

I don't like country and don't even like Dolly's corny humor - but I'm certainly a fan of Dolly as a person!

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Dolly Parton’s nonprofit Imagination Library has distributed over 147 million free books to children.

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Twenty-five years on, Imagination Library is more important than ever to Parton and the kids it serves, she said. That may explain the personal touch she’s been bringing to it.

“And now with people trapped in houses?” she said. “That’s why I’ve been reading books to children at night on YouTube.”

 

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Perez Hilton continues to illustrate what a piece of utter garbage he is.

On one hand. he claims he 'regrets" how he hounded Britney Spears at the height of her crisis.

Perez Hilton has ‘regret’ for his treatment of Britney Spears in the 2000s

But out of the other side of his lying mouth, his last two videos posted are... about Britney.  And four of his videos in the past week.

And listen to what he's actually saying...

 

I'm not even saying for sure he's wrong with his conclusions.  But he has SOME nerve commenting on this.  He used her as a punchingbag for years to advance his own career, so the better part of discretion, if he really was sorry for his previous behavior would be to just shut his mouth and find something else to talk about.  

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On 2/19/2021 at 12:33 AM, Kromm said:

Perez Hilton continues to illustrate what a piece of utter garbage he is.

On one hand. he claims he 'regrets" how he hounded Britney Spears at the height of her crisis.

Perez Hilton has ‘regret’ for his treatment of Britney Spears in the 2000s

But out of the other side of his lying mouth, his last two videos posted are... about Britney.  And four of his videos in the past week.

And listen to what he's actually saying...

 

I'm not even saying for sure he's wrong with his conclusions.  But he has SOME nerve commenting on this.  He used her as a punchingbag for years to advance his own career, so the better part of discretion, if he really was sorry for his previous behavior would be to just shut his mouth and find something else to talk about.  

Agree that Mr. Hilton DOES have the nerve of a canal horse to be commenting on this- considering his own past actions!

Of course it's also telling that he and his colleague are saying on the one hand that they claim that there's ZERO chance that someone could be placed under conservatorship in California due to  some very strict laws (as if there's never been any case in the history of the world of officials either ignoring said guidelines and/or having palms greased to have someone NOT fitting said guidelines to be forceably and needlessly put under them against their will) and, of course, seems to totally ignore the sad if not exploitative history 'her family and closest [alleged] friends' have had with her BUT then they say that it's wrong for folks to disbelieve her claims of 'being fine'.  OK, so WHY aren't they themselves willing to believe her OWN words when she has made the case for WHY she doesn't want to stay under this conservatorship for the rest of her life and, at the very least, if it MUST continue, she would have preferred the temporary person appointed to head it over her father ?  IOW, they themselves only want to believe her when it suits their OWN agenda (  in this case,  that she says she's okay)  but not when it contradicts their hypothesis that she MUST be under this conservatorship for the rest of her life and that there's zero chance that anyone wanting to keep her in this state  could be doing it for any reason other than for her own good) .BOO!!!!!!!!!!- to the both of them (not that I ever had any liking for  or trust in Mr. Hilton).

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On 2/18/2021 at 11:19 AM, lurkerbee said:

The Tennessee legislature was considering a bill to erect a statue of Dolly Parton on the state's Capitol grounds. She has asked them to remove the bill. 

 

Can we clone her?

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From People: Paris Hilton Engaged to Partner Carter Reum

They got engaged on her 40th birthday. He’s 40 too. She wants kids (she’s already considered a high risk pregnancy by most OB-GYNs & fertility specialists & anyone else who treats women looking to have babies) so if she wants her own I wish her luck!

This is at least the third time she’s been engaged. Anyone wanna start a pool on whether or not this 1 will last? She’s always said the same thing about her previous fiancés & none of the engagements sealed the deal.

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18 minutes ago, BW Manilowe said:

From People: Paris Hilton Engaged to Partner Carter Reum

They got engaged on her 40th birthday. He’s 40 too. She wants kids (she’s already considered a high risk pregnancy by most OB-GYNs & fertility specialists & anyone else who treats women looking to have babies) so if she wants her own I wish her luck!

This is at least the third time she’s been engaged. Anyone wanna start a pool on whether or not this 1 will last? She’s always said the same thing about her previous fiancés & none of the engagements sealed the deal.

...I'm sorry, I'm stuck on the realization that Paris Hilton is 40 now? 

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27 minutes ago, BW Manilowe said:

This is at least the third time she’s been engaged. Anyone wanna start a pool on whether or not this 1 will last?

Fourth.  It's hard to guess.  The first two happened over 15 years ago and I wouldn't necessarily hold those against her since she was quite young.  The third happened a few years ago and alone, I wouldn't really hold that against her because that happens sometimes.  But all together?  It could finally be the right time for her as a mature woman or it could be a mess of a pattern. 

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15 hours ago, Irlandesa said:

Fourth.  It's hard to guess.  The first two happened over 15 years ago and I wouldn't necessarily hold those against her since she was quite young.  The third happened a few years ago and alone, I wouldn't really hold that against her because that happens sometimes.  But all together?  It could finally be the right time for her as a mature woman or it could be a mess of a pattern. 

Hell, I give her credit for backing out of the relationships before the weddings. Three broken engagements could’ve easily been three divorces.

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34 minutes ago, kariyaki said:

Hell, I give her credit for backing out of the relationships before the weddings. Three broken engagements could’ve easily been three divorces.

I would agree with you. However, I'm not entirely sure that all three engagements were broken by Miss Hilton alone instead  by mutual agreement and/or by  one or more of the intended grooms alone -despite whatever claims she may have been stated since it's not unknown for celebs and/or their intendeds to spin events to the public  differently from what  actually transpired. 

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On 2/18/2021 at 11:19 AM, lurkerbee said:

The Tennessee legislature was considering a bill to erect a statue of Dolly Parton on the state's Capitol grounds. She has asked them to remove the bill. 

 

My whole family loves Dolly, especially my mom. When my parents recently got their first doses of the COVID-19 vaccine, she was so excited that they got Moderna because it was the vaccine her money helped fund. As a result, my mom calls it the "Dolly vaccine". 😊

Not much more to add except she is indeed a national treasure. The fact that she is so humble is very refreshing!!

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6 hours ago, Blergh said:

I would agree with you. However, I'm not entirely sure that all three engagements were broken by Miss Hilton alone instead  by mutual agreement and/or by  one or more of the intended grooms alone -despite whatever claims she may have been stated since it's not unknown for celebs and/or their intendeds to spin events to the public  differently from what  actually transpired. 

But it doesn’t matter who broke the engagement, it still means it didn’t lead to a life of multiple divorces for her. 

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Yeah, eight years is nothing when the younger party is almost 30.

Eh... I still think it's weird. As the original commenter said, not inherently skeevy. But personally, I think 30-40 is one of those time periods like 20-30 where depending on the numbers, if there's a significant age gap, you're in very different stages of your life. But I also don't care about Shailene Woodley or the sports guy.

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It wasn’t the original article I found, but it does say Josh Duhamel is replacing Armie Hammer in a film, Shotgun Wedding, co-starring Jennifer Lopez & filming in Costa Rica for 4 months.

Not that it would have been a hit with Armie Hammer but I hear Josh Duhamel and think... yeah, that movie's definitely gonna be a flop. Also, why is she making two wedding movies back to back? I was getting this confused with Marry Me. 

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1 hour ago, biakbiak said:

But it doesn’t matter who broke the engagement, it still means it didn’t lead to a life of multiple divorces for her. 

True and one didn't hear her do the 'always a bridesmaid but never a bride' lament!

 Of course, one telling sign of whether it was she or her intended/s who broke the engagements would be if she had kept the ring/s. It used to be that if the intended groom broke it, he was supposed to 'magnanimously' permanently let the would-be bride keep the ring whereas if the intended bride broke the engagement, she was supposed to return the ring to the would-be groom. 

However, not only would Miss Hilton have never needed to keep the rings to keep herself from starving, one can't say she has ever been a stickler for etiquette rules! 

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It strikes me that the bar to what we call celebritydom has been lowered in recent years. There are more people who are famous to less people and for less work.

I would push back on the "less work" part. Sure, there are some terrible people who get rewarded for being pretty and doing very little. But I'm actually not surprised at how many minor celebrities there are now because these people put in the work to engage with their audiences. Compare an old school celebrity who would, at most put out a handful of films in a year (if they happened to be released at the same time) and maybe do some red carpets and talk show appearances... with the kind of "whos" that post every day on Instagram and put out at least one video a week on youtube and reply to comments on social media and nowadays usually also have a weekly or biweekly podcast. These "amateurs" are pumping out content at a higher rate because they don't need to put out the same quality of work to get attention. And, of course, regular celebs are picking up on it. It seems like I hear about a new celeb podcast (that I refuse to listen to) every other day.

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5 hours ago, aradia22 said:

I would push back on the "less work" part. Sure, there are some terrible people who get rewarded for being pretty and doing very little. But I'm actually not surprised at how many minor celebrities there are now because these people put in the work to engage with their audiences. Compare an old school celebrity who would, at most put out a handful of films in a year (if they happened to be released at the same time) and maybe do some red carpets and talk show appearances... with the kind of "whos" that post every day on Instagram and put out at least one video a week on youtube and reply to comments on social media and nowadays usually also have a weekly or biweekly podcast. These "amateurs" are pumping out content at a higher rate because they don't need to put out the same quality of work to get attention. And, of course, regular celebs are picking up on it. It seems like I hear about a new celeb podcast (that I refuse to listen to) every other day.

You're correct. Consider Greta Garbo  who walked away from Hollywood and stardom after her last movie released in 1941 at age 35 and declared 'I want to be LEFT alone' but she was trailed by paparazzi and fake friends eager to capitalize on her enduring fame  for almost the next half-century until her death in 1990. I mean, she made all the money she needed to live comfortably the rest of her life, wasn't doing anybody any harm so it made no sense why she just wasn't left alone to go on her solitary daily exercise walks even considering that she had an unforgettable face! 

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