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6 hours ago, dccfan204 said:

Wow, thanks! I had no idea of any of this. I think veterans should 100% be able to correct rookies. K & J can't watch everyone at the same time...

I remember Natalie Wood asking (I believe) Nicole Hamilton to stay on her and correct her. I think there is nothing wrong with a vet correcting a TCC or rookies dancing and/or behavior since they know how things work...as long as they do it politely. 

Maybe VK doesn't take criticism by any means well. 

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5 hours ago, Little Eden said:

Agree.  I hope she takes her community college credits and transfers to a school far, far away from Texas.  Get some life experience & get away from this path that was laid out for her since birth to figure out what she really wants.  Maybe she truly loves DCC and will come back in a few years, on her own terms, as A++ Victoria.  Or maybe she'll take a completely different path.  I just hope she's able to explore her options outside of Dallas/DCC/TK.

Maybe tagalong with Dayton and work on a cruiseline. She'll get life experience and see the world. 

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15 minutes ago, LilyD said:

but she seemed genuinely shocked by what happened to her

I honestly don't think Kelli was shocked.  I think the whole scene was done for drama.

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1 hour ago, Teriyaki Terror said:

I remember Natalie Wood asking (I believe) Nicole Hamilton to stay on her and correct her. I think there is nothing wrong with a vet correcting a TCC or rookies dancing and/or behavior since they know how things work...as long as they do it politely. 

Maybe VK doesn't take criticism by any means well. 

I also got the feeling (not sure if it was stated on a post or I just read between lines and made up a story in my mind) that perhaps the vet giving the correction (rumored to be Jalyn) did it in a purely helpful mature way.  How Victoria handled it at the time wasn’t really ever discussed, but she probably then told her mother - either in the course of a “how was practice” type conversation or an outright complaint. And then it was Tina who actually complained to KelFine. Whether that was the actual chain of events, I have no idea. But I always got the impression that Tina’s relationship with Kelli was way more detrimental to Victoria’s relationship with other DCC than it was helpful. Whether she realizes it or not. 

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With 4 open spots on SG, I think they will go to Madeline (because she was at the top of the rankings last year), McKenzie, Dani, and Armani. Darian would be my next pick since she was farther up in the triangle. 

 

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On 6/5/2021 at 2:02 PM, chabelisaywow said:

I'm really trying not to comment on VK at all - because I’ll say it louder for the people in the back - I’m glad she’s gone. She was a distraction. 

I don’t wish hateful shit on her or anything but that whole saying you have a thyroid issue when you don’t is just bad juju.

This whole “leave of absence” stuff is BS too. She’s making  the LOL “brave, mature, unselfish” decision not to reaudition. She should have to do the same brave, mature, unselfish thing that all the other girls who chose not to reaudition any given year had to do if they wanted to make the team again.
 

not going to lie though - Lemonbus, Simplsimom - SPILL THE TEA. 

Took the words right out of my mouth. I feel the same way about her. However,  I can't help but wonder how Victoria's career with DCC would of gone if people like Kelli, Charlotte, and Melissa R didn't try so hard to make it seem like she was the next DCC messiah and just treated her like any other cheerleaders and employee. She obviously gained a bit of weight judging by that first SG performance and then was gone from further shows and social media.  I can see the fear of not  being seen as the DCC golden child/ future point. Plus, having to be part of the weight gain storyline again would send someone spiralling into a ED and breakdown. Especially so close to training camp and on a reality tv show. Victoria is only 21. She still has a long dance career ahead of her. Definitely for the best that she step away and take care of herself. Wish her all the best. 

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Not sure if this has been pointed out, but VK said she was specifically taking a break from "the sidelines" this season.  I'm wondering if she'll still be kept on in some kind of ambassador role?  I'm curious to see how (or if) this plays out in front of the cameras.

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8 hours ago, Emchammy said:

See I find this interesting because I’ve seen multiple posts from new people who say it took forever for their accounts to be activated. It make wonder if Dr M has been waiting a while (and if so, what else could they have shared during this time) or did they somehow jump the queue? 

I was one of those long time lurkers who finally wanted to open an account and I think it took 2-3 weeks for it to be activated. Not sure if that helps lol 

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I don't post often but have followed the VK saga all along. Is it just me or is everyone skirting around saying what is a likely possibility -- that she got pregnant and decided she wanted to have an abortion but was guilted into keeping/having it by others forcing their opinions and values on her, those same people who programmed DCC as the be-all end-all her entire life?

She's never had a chance to figure out her life on her own, why would a pregnancy be any different? Despite women still having choices about their own bodies in this world, guilt from external forces plays much too large a role in unexpected pregnancies, and especially for someone whose life has been driven by others' expectations all along.  

If true, its likely that she was fed the idea that she can have the baby and still get back in uniform shape by next season, despite the realities of how having a kid takes over your life in general and that getting a pre-baby body back is difficult for anyone, and especially someone who struggles with easy weight gain. No matter what anyone tells her, her body and hormones will dictate her ability to get back into DCC-standard shape. 

It would explain the weight gain, the awkward selfless, brave, etc. comment, all the support from the teammates, and her essentially disappearing from all visual media overnight. . . .

If true, once again, VK's life is being driven by others. Not a big fan of hers but at the same time, the poor woman has never stood a chance of figuring out who she is on her own and making up her own mind about her own life.  For all the grief she gets, given the familial obsession with all things DCC, she really wouldn't have turned out any other way. 

There's a LOT of reasons why I think this is a possibility but I can't add them without violating political policies. What I believe I can safely say is that if you think about the state they live in, the corporate "values" of DCC and their emphasis on the external perceptions of the women's personal choices, etc., it really isn't difficult to speculate the same scenario I did. 

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On 6/4/2021 at 4:43 PM, Agent Gully said:

1.) Who would be the most surprising/shocking veteran cut/s?

2.) Who would be the least surprising veteran cut/s?

Most shocking:  Gina, Lexie, Amber, Ashlee, or Caroline.  (I don't think they'd cut Rachel W even if she couldn't dance). 

Least Shocking: Kristin, Jalyn, Taylor, Jada (even though she's a fave she's a soft dancer), Jessica (she's a total blender)

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34 minutes ago, SailorGirl said:

I don't post often but have followed the VK saga all along. Is it just me or is everyone skirting around saying what is a likely possibility -- that she got pregnant and decided she wanted to have an abortion but was guilted into keeping/having it by others forcing their opinions and values on her, those same people who programmed DCC as the be-all end-all her entire life?

It would explain the weight gain, the awkward selfless, brave, etc. comment, all the support from the teammates, and her essentially disappearing from all visual media overnight. . . .


There's a LOT of reasons why I think this is a real possibility but I can't add them without violating political policies. What I believe I can safely say is that if you think about the state they live in, the corporate "values" of DCC and their emphasis on the external perceptions of the women's personal choices, etc., it really isn't difficult to speculate the same scenario I did. 

I think if she is pregnant, it's weird that she and all the DCC/TCC who commented on her post described her decision to step away as a difficult choice or personal sacrifice. I'm not trying to take away from how difficult the decision to keep an unexpected pregnancy can be, especially given how young Victoria is and how physically demanding DCC is. 

However, if she is pregnant, it's weird that she didn't mention "taking a break to explore new avenues in life" or something like that. Also, people she knows commenting stuff like "you're in my prayers" is not a normal thing to say to someone who's pregnant even if it's said with the best intentions. I also think if she was pregnant and talked into keeping the pregnancy, religion would have been mentioned more in her post or in her comments (like bible verses or "God is always there for you;" I still would think that saying "I'll pray for you" is a weird thing to say)

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7 minutes ago, madmax84 said:

I think that's the most outlandish theory that's out there regarding VK...

well, regardless, we'll know in 6-8 months either way! :-D 

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4 minutes ago, HitItHarder..BAM said:

I think if she is pregnant, it's weird that she and all the DCC/TCC who commented on her post described her decision to step away as a difficult choice or personal sacrifice. 

I think having a baby if you don't want to/aren't ready is a textbook definition of difficult choice and personal sacrifice. . . 

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1 minute ago, SailorGirl said:

I think having a baby if you don't want to/aren't ready is a textbook definition of difficult choice and personal sacrifice. . . 

I completely agree, but, without getting too political, I think if she were being pressured or strongly advised to keep an unwanted pregnancy, those around her would also be trying to frame the pregnancy in a more positive way. 

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On 6/6/2021 at 2:21 PM, Little Eden said:

Agree.  I hope she takes her community college credits and transfers to a school far, far away from Texas.  Get some life experience & get away from this path that was laid out for her since birth to figure out what she really wants.  Maybe she truly loves DCC and will come back in a few years, on her own terms, as A++ Victoria.  Or maybe she'll take a completely different path.  I just hope she's able to explore her options outside of Dallas/DCC/TK.

I might be remembering incorrectly but wasn't it mentioned before that she turned down a place at a performing arts/dance school in order to dance with the DCC?

I feel like if she were to get back on that path, assuming she's healthy, she would come out a stronger dancer and stronger in her sense of self and self-worth. 18 is so young to be putting yourself into this type of spot light and I honestly worry about the new TCCs who are that young as well.

Dance is clearly VKs passion so pursuing further education in dance would be great for her. I feel like it also wouldn't put as much stress on her mentally and physically as DCC & their auditions do.

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36 minutes ago, BunnyHop96 said:

that she turned down a place at a performing arts/dance school in order to dance with the DCC?

I believe she was 12 and offered a dance scholarship to New York and Tina didn't want her to go???

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1 hour ago, BunnyHop96 said:

I might be remembering incorrectly but wasn't it mentioned before that she turned down a place at a performing arts/dance school in order to dance with the DCC?

I feel like if she were to get back on that path, assuming she's healthy, she would come out a stronger dancer and stronger in her sense of self and self-worth. 18 is so young to be putting yourself into this type of spot light and I honestly worry about the new TCCs who are that young as well.

Dance is clearly VKs passion so pursuing further education in dance would be great for her. I feel like it also wouldn't put as much stress on her mentally and physically as DCC & their auditions do.

 

25 minutes ago, scorpio1031 said:

I believe she was 12 and offered a dance scholarship to New York and Tina didn't want her to go???

Thank you both for clarifying that.  This was what I was talking about earlier.  She was offered a full scholarship in New York and was all ready to go, but Tina completely nixed because SHE didn't want Victoria to go (Tina probably wasn't allowed to come and stay with her).  However, it was couched as she didn't want her baby girl so far away or something like that.  The way it was phrased made it seem like Tina wanted Victoria to focus exclusively on things that would get her to the DCC and going to New York would not only get her away from her family, but could make her "lose focus" on her "dream" of becoming a DCC and "corrupt" her in her pursuits.

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10 hours ago, SailorGirl said:

I don't post often but have followed the VK saga all along. Is it just me or is everyone skirting around saying what is a likely possibility -- that she got pregnant and decided she wanted to have an abortion but was guilted into keeping/having it by others forcing their opinions and values on her, those same people who programmed DCC as the be-all end-all her entire life?

She's never had a chance to figure out her life on her own, why would a pregnancy be any different? Despite women still having choices about their own bodies in this world, guilt from external forces plays much too large a role in unexpected pregnancies, and especially for someone whose life has been driven by others' expectations all along.  

If true, its likely that she was fed the idea that she can have the baby and still get back in uniform shape by next season, despite the realities of how having a kid takes over your life in general and that getting a pre-baby body back is difficult for anyone, and especially someone who struggles with easy weight gain. No matter what anyone tells her, her body and hormones will dictate her ability to get back into DCC-standard shape. 

It would explain the weight gain, the awkward selfless, brave, etc. comment, all the support from the teammates, and her essentially disappearing from all visual media overnight. . . .

If true, once again, VK's life is being driven by others. Not a big fan of hers but at the same time, the poor woman has never stood a chance of figuring out who she is on her own and making up her own mind about her own life.  For all the grief she gets, given the familial obsession with all things DCC, she really wouldn't have turned out any other way. 

There's a LOT of reasons why I think this is a possibility but I can't add them without violating political policies. What I believe I can safely say is that if you think about the state they live in, the corporate "values" of DCC and their emphasis on the external perceptions of the women's personal choices, etc., it really isn't difficult to speculate the same scenario I did. 

What terrifies me the most about this scenario is that in 18 years Kalina3 will be hailed as the second coming of Christ in the DCC world. 

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31 minutes ago, chabelisaywow said:

What terrifies me the most about this scenario is that in 18 years Kalina3 will be hailed as the second coming of Christ in the DCC world. 

 

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2 hours ago, dbell1 said:

Marvel comic characters are posting, Maddie yeeted, Tess is off to yell at and rat out other people now, Savvy and her hair took a powder. Damn. 

That all happened fairly recently and yet seems a lifetime ago. This show is aging me LOL.

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3 hours ago, chabelisaywow said:

What terrifies me the most about this scenario is that in 18 years Kalina3 will be hailed as the second coming of Christ in the DCC world. 

Going to have to be the third coming after Cassie’s daughter, who could conceivably still be on the squad at that time 😆

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15 hours ago, mizzhyer said:

Most shocking:  Gina, Lexie, Amber, Ashlee, or Caroline.  (I don't think they'd cut Rachel W even if she couldn't dance). 

Least Shocking: Kristin, Jalyn, Taylor, Jada (even though she's a fave she's a soft dancer), Jessica (she's a total blender)

For me, none of the rookies (except for Marissa) would shock me if they got cut. It’s not their fault but DCC MTT focused too much on the veterans and they weren’t allowed or have a big DCC social media presence until late in the season so most of the time I forget who’s the rookie class. 

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8 hours ago, RedDelicious said:

Going to have to be the third coming after Cassie’s daughter, who could conceivably still be on the squad at that time 😆

Lennon’s first spoken word was DCC and her second cheerleader. Talking about grooming/brainwashing a toddler! I’m sure she had a DCC nursery in addition to all the DCC costumes we’ve seen her in. She probably attended her first junior DCC dance class before she could walk and was the youngest DCC ever to make the squad photo. Talking about a guaranteed spot on the team….

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9 hours ago, RedDelicious said:

Going to have to be the third coming after Cassie’s daughter, who could conceivably still be on the squad at that time 😆

Cassie's son will be the first male DCC... 

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On 6/6/2021 at 12:25 AM, dccfan204 said:

Did we ever find out what happened with Jalyn? She was a favorite her first year but not so much anymore

Rumor was she tried to help VK during Training camp making suggestions (like all vets do) and VK complained to Kelli because she took it as negative criticism.  Kelli and Judy both then came down hard and said only they could make corrections of training camp candidates.  Then VK made show group as a rookie and Jaylyn did not make showgroup.  ALthough I am suprised Jaylyn has not retired Im glad because I still like her alot.  

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On 5/29/2021 at 12:49 AM, lemonbus230 said:

Victoria’s immaturity caught up with her. In more ways than one. And she chose to step away versus address and apologize where needed.

Thank you for this post.... I thought I was the only one giving this whole thing the side eye! 

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15 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

 

Thank you both for clarifying that.  This was what I was talking about earlier.  She was offered a full scholarship in New York and was all ready to go, but Tina completely nixed because SHE didn't want Victoria to go (Tina probably wasn't allowed to come and stay with her).  However, it was couched as she didn't want her baby girl so far away or something like that.  The way it was phrased made it seem like Tina wanted Victoria to focus exclusively on things that would get her to the DCC and going to New York would not only get her away from her family, but could make her "lose focus" on her "dream" of becoming a DCC and "corrupt" her in her pursuits.

You can fault TK for a lot of things, but she is not the only mother who would not allow a 12 year old to live away from home.

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6 minutes ago, Mardo2044 said:

You can fault TK for a lot of things, but she is not the only mother who would not allow a 12 year old to live away from home.

LOL I guarantee mine wouldn't have!

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1 hour ago, Mardo2044 said:

You can fault TK for a lot of things, but she is not the only mother who would not allow a 12 year old to live away from home.

A lot of parents do depending on the student, the situation and where they are going.  For dance, oftentimes, there are dorms attached to the school for students to live in, either for the school year or the summer intensive.  From what I remember of the situation, Victoria would have stayed in one of those had she taken advantage of the scholarship.  Many dance students DO leave home at that age in order to get better training. 

I double checked what was written WAY back then and it was a $20,000 scholarship to AMDA.  When they mentioned it in an early episode of S13, Tina had stated she "didn't want to give up her baby".   Plus, AMDA was/is expensive so they likely would have had to pay whatever the scholarship didn't cover so cost would have been a factor as well.

I can't remember what episode the scholarship/etc. was mentioned in or I'd go back and watch it to get more information.

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1 hour ago, Mardo2044 said:

You can fault TK for a lot of things, but she is not the only mother who would not allow a 12 year old to live away from home.

Shoot, I live in NJ and my 12 year old wouldn't be headed to NYC alone to live. 

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4 hours ago, LilyD said:

Lennon’s first spoken word was DCC and her second cheerleader. Talking about grooming/brainwashing a toddler! I’m sure she had a DCC nursery in addition to all the DCC costumes we’ve seen her in. She probably attended her first junior DCC dance class before she could walk and was the youngest DCC ever to make the squad photo. Talking about a guaranteed spot on the team….

I doubt that Victoria is pregnant. I don't know if she'll have a daughter in the future. But I would bet the farm that if/when Victoria's daughter and Cassie's daughter try-out for the team, Kelli will probably still be the director and will say, "This is the most talented group we've ever had."

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4 hours ago, Mardo2044 said:

Rumor was she tried to help VK during Training camp making suggestions (like all vets do) and VK complained to Kelli because she took it as negative criticism.  Kelli and Judy both then came down hard and said only they could make corrections of training camp candidates.  Then VK made show group as a rookie and Jaylyn did not make showgroup.  ALthough I am suprised Jaylyn has not retired Im glad because I still like her alot.  

I like Jalyn as well and was surprised she didn't retire. She’s been treated horribly and I commend the way she’s carried herself while putting up with asinine behavior by K&J. Another VK nepotism incident that really pissed me off. I think Jalyn stayed another year to not have pan2020 b her final year. I hope she makes it this year, she’s a talented and beautiful dancer. 

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2 hours ago, Trixi said:

I like Jalyn as well and was surprised she didn't retire. She’s been treated horribly and I commend the way she’s carried herself while putting up with asinine behavior by K&J.

With Kelli, one year you could be a favorite, the next you're dirt, or vice-versa. who knows, maybe they came to an understanding with each other.

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I think it will be interesting to see how many people get cut in camp week 1 and 2. 

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18 hours ago, RedDelicious said:

Going to have to be the third coming after Cassie’s daughter, who could conceivably still be on the squad at that time 😆

Based on what Cassie said when she found out she was having a girl and her daughter now being a Jr DCC, I believe it will be shoved down her throat more than it was for Cassie.

17 hours ago, lexie3248 said:

For me, none of the rookies (except for Marissa) would shock me if they got cut. It’s not their fault but DCC MTT focused too much on the veterans and they weren’t allowed or have a big DCC social media presence until late in the season so most of the time I forget who’s the rookie class. 

 I can only name one rookie DCC, Marissa. Only because this board is not a fan of hers.

Also, the kick line and jump split, when they actually have to learn it is going to expose a lot of things for the rookies.

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31 minutes ago, Teriyaki Terror said:

Based on what Cassie said when she found out she was having a girl and her daughter now being a Jr DCC, I believe it will be shoved down her throat more than it was for Cassie.

 I can only name one rookie DCC, Marissa. Only because this board is not a fan of hers.

Also, the kick line and jump split, when they actually have to learn it is going to expose a lot of things for the rookies.

But what if little Cassie (Lennon? Cannon? I don’t know which is her daughter) isn’t “Uniform Ready”? Or WORSE: “HD Friendly”? That’s the kiss of death right there. Can you imagine Weatherman Scott trying to “tactfully” voice his concerns? Charlottes laser beam stare would melt him into a flesh puddle. 

I kid, of course.  She’s an adorable little girl!  Who probably loves playing with barbies or Legos or dirt and just does the DCC stuff cause her mum and grandma do. I actually love Judys videos with her grandkids. She may even rebel and not want to have anything to do with DCC after a lifetime of it. I grew up with kids whose parents owned businesses who just didn’t want to be part of the family business and went on to do other things in other states and towns. Others stayed to run the construction company or catering business or bakery or whatever. Some were miserable while others were happy doing exactly what their parents and grandparents did.

As long as she gets to do what she wants to do!  I really hate it when these girls say, “I’ve wanted to be a DCC since I was born!” LIAR! It is literally impossible to know what you want to be as a zygote.  

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I follow Cassie and Judy on instagram.  Lennon, Cassie's daughter, is a high spirited young child who has a mind of her own.  Loves fashion.  Loves being active.   Lennon loves dancing.  you can see it in her face anytime she is dancing.  I adore everything I have seen about Lennon (admire her spirit) and hate when people want to say stuff about her just because she is Cassie's daughter.  

So please. just because both her grandma and her mother were DCC, just maybe Lennon wants to do it for herself.    Let her make up her mind for herself.

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7 hours ago, MrsNiniG said:

New DCC in Motion with Rachel W posted on IG.

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I know she's beautiful but she does nothing with her face! Gina can be a bit OTT but I think it's easier to tone down her facials than it is to dial it up in Rachel. She's a beautiful dancer but oh so bland. 

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4 hours ago, DCC-UK said:

I know she's beautiful but she does nothing with her face! Gina can be a bit OTT but I think it's easier to tone down her facials than it is to dial it up in Rachel. She's a beautiful dancer but oh so bland. 

Dead eyes... bland facials and dance is ok.  She's beautiful though. 

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22 hours ago, itsweird said:

Shoot, I live in NJ and my 12 year old wouldn't be headed to NYC alone to live. 

Same girl same.  And after watching the Britney Spears documentary...even sending your kiddo off with a well meaning adult doesn't mean they won't get taken advantage of!  I don't even have kids  but it would be so challenging to do something like this.

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On 6/8/2021 at 8:54 AM, LilyD said:

Lennon’s first spoken word was DCC and her second cheerleader. Talking about grooming/brainwashing a toddler! I’m sure she had a DCC nursery in addition to all the DCC costumes we’ve seen her in. She probably attended her first junior DCC dance class before she could walk and was the youngest DCC ever to make the squad photo. Talking about a guaranteed spot on the team….

I think that’s Judy more than cassie but hey, the kid may love performing and want it for herself when she’s older too.

7 hours ago, DCC-UK said:

I know she's beautiful but she does nothing with her face! Gina can be a bit OTT but I think it's easier to tone down her facials than it is to dial it up in Rachel. She's a beautiful dancer but oh so bland. 

Perfect point. Adequate dancer, extremely photogenic, boring as hell. Kelli said from training camp Rachel’s first year every move looked like a perfect shot and I said well there’s your future point. Kasharas been the only one for years and years with any personality. 

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16 hours ago, MrsNiniG said:

New DCC in Motion with Rachel W posted on IG.

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Pretty Vacant is how she comes across to me, even her dancing is bland and not sure which Minchew sister it was that Kelli called mannequin like, plastic, snotty... bc she was too perfect and yet here we are... i always thought Kelli was just jealous of her...

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Was reading an article about the tornado in Tyler yesterday and saw a familiar face in the ads....

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2 hours ago, UnicornKicksBack said:

Kasharas been the only one for years and years with any personality. 

Yeah and they keep trying to recreate that. Tried with Victoria. Tried with Kat. 

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