S11.E14: Stranger Spouse

[cinsays]

40 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

I'm going to give Amani some Grace and am thinking she meant good for her and Woodys relationship!  Certainly not good for the world!

well, of course that is what she meant, but still, why say anything

[Neurochick]

2 hours ago, Starlight925 said:

These spouses are cooped up in these small, noisy apartments (remember they said they could hear their neighbors walking above them, and dogs barking down the halls), and they are removed from their own familiar homes, family, things.

Gee, it sounds like they were living in a homeless encampment or something.  

 

1 hour ago, Adeejay said:

I am curious as to why Karen and Woody didn't join their respective group for the "bonding session".  

Maybe they were filming somewhere else.

[Retired at last]

1 hour ago, ECM1231 said:

Wow, really? I don't remember that it went down that way at all. Lol

I really should move this, but if we are talking about Dallas' Dave and Amber - it did NOT happen that way. She said yes first on D Day and and then he said no, which humiliated her. Maybe there was another Dave?

[JapMo]

2 hours ago, cinsays said:

Have you considered getting the tape converted to a DVD?  If the VCR fails you will miss having that tape to watch and that would be awful.

Can't tell you how many people have suggested that, but Procrastination is my middle name.  One day.....🙂

[Crashcourse]

I do like hearing what Woody has to say when I can understand what he' saying.  On a purely superficial note, he's got a nice body.  Love those legs. 😋

[Blissfool]

On 10/15/2020 at 3:05 PM, cinsays said:

Yeah, I guess Karen didn't see the season with Iris and how well that worked out.

 

Or she saw it and thought she'd get herself a hottie like Keith. (Miles is fine and all, but Keith.....he's different)

On 10/15/2020 at 1:51 PM, Crashcourse said:

 

The evil, cackling part of me would like to imagine someone giving Bennett some food laced with Ex-lax.  I'd like to see how he'd handle that "situation" with just one sheet of TP.  At this point, I think he and Amelia have outquirked themselves.  I'm over them.

I wonder how he would have answered the "crumple or fold" question.

[Ilovepie]

6 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

This show is a crapshoot.  You don’t know the person until the wedding day.  In a real marriage, you know the person for awhile, but still don’t REALLY know them until after marriage.  In both instances, it’s a gamble.  Today, the divorce rate is high.

You guys, today is my wedding Anniversary.  Married 55 years.  And, still going.  Loved him from the minute I saw him.  Yes, I’m that old, lol.

@Silver Bells CONGRATULATIONS! That is amazing! In this day and age where marriage is so disposable that is something to be proud of. Being married takes so much hard work - I admire people that can work together and make it last! ❤️

[Ilovepie]

3 hours ago, Alexander Pope said:

Yes I had the same reaction, and I'm the one who dumped on Amelia last week for singing cheerily as she biked down empty Bourbon street.  Love and the bubble can make people unintentionally selfish I guess.

Huh? How is it selfish that she was biking down Bourbon Street singing? That just seems like her normal personality. Should people just walk around miserable all the time? I thought she was just commenting on how empty it was. People are allowed to go outside - I didn't see anything selfish about what Amelia said or did.

As far as Amani saying she was happy Covid happened, I am giving her a pass. I don't think she meant that she is happy the people are sick and dying. I think she meant that being in quarantine allowed them more time to get to know each other. It just wasn't the best way to express that, obviously.

[StatisticalOutlier]

18 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

When Bennett and Amelia were packing for the getaway she asked him which toothbrush to take!!!  Do they share a toothbrush when they travel???

Well sure.  They have to make room for the 6-foot stuffed snake.

 

4 hours ago, Crashcourse said:

Miles needs to stop flopping on the bed and looking up at Karen like he's a puppy begging for crumbs.  Just leave her alone.  Be nice to her like he's always been, and let her make the first move (which she probably never will, but at least he'll know to stop trying).  

Aah, I think you've hit on what bugs me about Miles.  I was thinking he seems needy, and a puppy begging for crumbs describes it.  And it can't have gotten better during the shutdown, when he was sitting around with nothing to do and Karen was going to work and coming home exhausted.

He's also really competitive, and I wonder if that has something to do with it, especially since as someone pointed out, Woody's doing a lot better, and was on the show kind of as a tagalong.

 

5 hours ago, JapMo said:

When you appeared on Rachel Ray as an audience guest, did they pay you for that, or were you just stopped by someone on the show standing outside trying to get people to come in?

I was in the audience for a talk show in NYC once, by getting free tickets mailed to me a few weeks in advance.  It turned out to be early on in the West Memphis Three saga--the guests where the victims' parents. 

But I was in the audience for David Letterman a couple of times, just by getting in the standby line.  I have a friend who used to get into Saturday Night Live whenever he was in NYC by getting in the standby line.

In college in Los Angeles, I had a roommate who used to go to tapings for sitcoms a lot.  There was an episode of Happy Days that was a real ordeal, because Richie was playing in a basketball game and had to make a basket and he just couldn't do it.  They were there forever, and she came home pretty cross.

 

 

[Neurochick]

1 hour ago, Ilovepie said:

As far as Amani saying she was happy Covid happened, I am giving her a pass. I don't think she meant that she is happy the people are sick and dying. I think she meant that being in quarantine allowed them more time to get to know each other. It just wasn't the best way to express that, obviously.

I think Amani was expressing how she felt, which is okay. 

 

1 hour ago, Ilovepie said:

Huh? How is it selfish that she was biking down Bourbon Street singing? That just seems like her normal personality. Should people just walk around miserable all the time? I thought she was just commenting on how empty it was. People are allowed to go outside - I didn't see anything selfish about what Amelia said or did.

Amelia was expressing how she felt, nothing more. 

[TheMediumBopper]

1 hour ago, Ilovepie said:

Huh? How is it selfish that she was biking down Bourbon Street singing? That just seems like her normal personality. Should people just walk around miserable all the time? I thought she was just commenting on how empty it was. People are allowed to go outside - I didn't see anything selfish about what Amelia said or did.

As far as Amani saying she was happy Covid happened, I am giving her a pass. I don't think she meant that she is happy the people are sick and dying. I think she meant that being in quarantine allowed them more time to get to know each other. It just wasn't the best way to express that, obviously.

I interpreted it differently. She was singing, "Bourbon Street is empty!" in a way that made her sound like she was rejoicing in that fact. Considering that Bourbon Street was empty due to a deadly virus outbreak, it just struck me as oddly insensitive and tone deaf... especially for a healthcare professional. People should be able to still enjoy their lives, yes. But gloating about the empty streets seemed in poor taste. When we saw Henry in the streets commenting on how strange and unsettling it was to see how quiet everything was, that seemed like a much more appropriate response. Most people were pretty shaken during those first few days of COVID lockdown.

Edited October 16, 2020 by TheMediumBopper

[LennieBriscoe]

6 hours ago, JapMo said:

That's cool, Lennie.  Was that with Art Fleming?  He was on a local radio station for years and always said the standards were much higher when he was emceeing the show, and anyone who tried out had to really be smart.

No, it was with Alex! (But I still have my acceptance letter to be on the show in 1971, when Art was the host. Fate stepped in and I was hired as a teacher, so dream deferred for a couple decades!)

Topic: Is next week the Finale? I'm going to guess two couples stay married. IOW, I don't think Karen and Miles will. 

[TheMediumBopper]

12 minutes ago, TheMediumBopper said:

In the words, of Emily Litella, "Nevermind."

 

Edited October 16, 2020 by TheMediumBopper

[KateHearts]

11 hours ago, Yeah No said:

I know they're young and perhaps that makes them unable to give more of a mature response, but I wanted to slap them for making me believe that most of them are really that sheltered and clueless about his experience that they can't respond with more than careful, PC platitudes.  Instead we get a disingenuous "apology" from wacko Christina.  Gee, thanks, that's worth less than if she would have kept her stupid mouth shut.  And yes to the person who said that Karen should have come stand by him and at least put her arm around him.

I don't think the "I'm sorry" was necessarily disingenuous, even though it was from Christina and well, she's a phony baloney. I don't think an "I'm sorry," implying "I'm sorry that this is so painful and close to home" is inappropriate.

[KateHearts]

I've never been on a TV show but I was interviewed in a bookstore about how I felt when Vanessa Williams was de-crowned as Miss America for having done porn. Yeah, I'm also old.

I do have two youtube videos of me doing medical procedures.  I guess that's not really celebrity, huh?

[Hangin Out]

7 hours ago, Soup333 said:

Happy Anniversary @Silver Bells!!

I know sometimes people complain about getting too personal on this forum but I’ve really enjoyed the personal stories in this thread.

Thanks so much.  I feel like we are all friends here .. I hope.  I also love the personal stories.  Plus, being this is a marriage thread, it seemed appropriate.

[Hangin Out]

4 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

@Silver Bells CONGRATULATIONS! That is amazing! In this day and age where marriage is so disposable that is something to be proud of. Being married takes so much hard work - I admire people that can work together and make it last! ❤️

Thank you.  I’m kind of old fashioned.  A hot meal every night and letting him watch his sports helped.  In turn, he gave to me equally.  Little things mean a lot.  I love the way Amani and Woodie work together.  They have conversations, he cooks, she appreciates him, and vice versa.  Hope they continue what they are doing.  Thanks for the kind words. ❤️

[ChiMama]

11 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

You guys, today is my wedding Anniversary.  Married 55 years.  And, still going.  Loved him from the minute I saw him.  Yes, I’m that old, lol.

Happy anniversary -- that's awesome! 🙂 Enjoy the day and YEARS of anniversaries to come!

[princelina]

 

4 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

As far as Amani saying she was happy Covid happened, I am giving her a pass. I don't think she meant that she is happy the people are sick and dying. I think she meant that being in quarantine allowed them more time to get to know each other. It just wasn't the best way to express that, obviously.

Yes - there are small things one can enjoy that I have been calling "Covid perks" - like now the FedEx person will drop off the wine at the door without one of us having to be home to sign for it 😄   I thought a "Covid perk" for these couples was getting their own cabins rather than having to share a house with everyone!  You can't be miserable about everything all the time.

2 hours ago, TheMediumBopper said:

I interpreted it differently. She was singing, "Bourbon Street is empty!" in a way that made her sound like she was rejoicing in that fact. Considering that Bourbon Street was empty due to a deadly virus outbreak, it just struck me as oddly insensitive and tone deaf... especially for a healthcare professional. People should be able to still enjoy their lives, yes. But gloating about the empty streets seemed in poor taste. When we saw Henry in the streets commenting on how strange and unsettling it was to see how quiet everything was, that seemed like a much more appropriate response. Most people were pretty shaken during those first few days of COVID lockdown.

I thought she was just showing off for the cameras 😄 

[Yeah No]

13 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

This show is a crapshoot.  You don’t know the person until the wedding day.  In a real marriage, you know the person for awhile, but still don’t REALLY know them until after marriage.  In both instances, it’s a gamble.  Today, the divorce rate is high.

You guys, today is my wedding Anniversary.  Married 55 years.  And, still going.  Loved him from the minute I saw him.  Yes, I’m that old, lol.

Wow, and I thought my 40 years was a long time!  Congratulations!  I agree that you really don't know them until after marriage.  Plus when you get married in your 20s people can change and you might find out that they're not the same person you married.  Fortunately that didn't happen to me, but I know people who have had that happen with spouses I knew and would have been blindsided by myself.  When I met my husband I thought of him as a "Rock of Gibraltar" and his basic nature was always rock solid and good and that has never changed even though he has matured and grown up a lot since then (we both have).

 

12 hours ago, JapMo said:

When you appeared on Rachel Ray as an audience guest, did they pay you for that, or were you just stopped by someone on the show standing outside trying to get people to come in?

Years ago on my husband and my first trip to California, a nice person stopped us on the street in L.A. and asked if we wanted to be in the audience for the game show Concentration (I know some of you remember that).  We thought OK, cool.  Little did we know they were taping like 5 shows and we could not leave.  We were stuck there, and OMG all they wanted us to do was clap the entire time.  My hands were red from all the clapping, and we wasted almost a whole day of our vacation being locked in a soundstage.

OMG, I remember Concentration!  I had completely forgotten about it until you mentioned it!

Actually, I applied on the RR show website for free tickets to see the show and one of the check boxes asked if you would be interested in appearing on the show and it gave a list of upcoming topics, one of which was "Are you going through menopause and feel like a different person sometimes?", to which I answered "yes", LOL.  The next thing I knew a few weeks later I got a phone call from a producer who asked me about a zillion questions and said she thought I would be a great fit for an upcoming segment with an author who had written a book about menopause and the different ways women are affected by it.  The premise was that the author would use my experience (and that of two other women) to highlight some of the points in her book.  

I was not paid for my appearance, but I was given a limo. ride to the studio from my father's apartment in NYC, where I was staying at the time (and of course a ride back).

I wasn't really happy with my experience overall, but I'll save the rest of that story for the small talk thread - Click here for the link.

 

10 hours ago, KateHearts said:

Christina: fake, fake, fakeity-fake.  What the hell? Crying? Over Olivia and Brett? And then she trash talks Brett, "confesses" that she's dated a lot of assholes (why to they bleep out the "holes" part rather than the "ass" part?)  I'm sure the others were inwardly rolling their eyes at her phony drama.  And that clip of her revealing that she used to be a big liar? I think the pathology runs extremely deep here. 

I agree and in some ways she's reminding me of wacko Sam from (I think) season 3.  She's at least on that level of crazy.

 

7 hours ago, Blissfool said:

Or she saw it and thought she'd get herself a hottie like Keith. (Miles is fine and all, but Keith.....he's different)

I wonder how he would have answered the "crumple or fold" question.

Now that you mention Keith, I actually think Karen would have been a decent match for him.  I don't think she would have had as many reservations about him.  If I had to choose between Miles and Keith for her I'd pick Keith.

Edited October 17, 2020 by Yeah No

[Elizzikra]

1 hour ago, princelina said:

 

Yes - there are small things one can enjoy that I have been calling "Covid perks" - like now the FedEx person will drop off the wine at the door without one of us having to be home to sign for it 😄   I thought a "Covid perk" for these couples was getting their own cabins rather than having to share a house with everyone!  You can't be miserable about everything all the time.

I thought she was just showing off for the cameras 😄 

I figured she was just being quirky and we were all just lucky that she didn’t break out the unicycle...

[Rae Spellman]

6 hours ago, Retired at last said:

I really should move this, but if we are talking about Dallas' Dave and Amber - it did NOT happen that way. She said yes first on D Day and and then he said no, which humiliated her. Maybe there was another Dave?

Even though I didn't watch that season, I looked this up. On decision day, they said yes. Pastor Cal was pleased. She moved out. Then she decided that she wanted to reconcile. He decided not to continue in the marriage. 

It would have been interesting to see Miles and Henry chatting with Brett about the pros and cons of giving up.

[LennieBriscoe]

1 hour ago, Silver Bells said:

Thank you.  I’m kind of old fashioned.  A hot meal every night and letting him watch his sports helped.  In turn, he gave to me equally.  Little things mean a lot.  I love the way Amani and Woodie work together.  They have conversations, he cooks, she appreciates him, and vice versa.  Hope they continue what they are doing.  Thanks for the kind words. ❤️

"A hot meal every night...." So that's what the 20th Century kidz called it......😉

Forty years, 362 days here. Engaged five weeks after first date. He was a keeper, so I kept him! 😁

Topic: If Miles is a keeper, why doesn't Karen seem to care? 😞

I sure hope Woody is one, for both his and Amani's sakes. He seems to like (what he considers to be) the finer things in life, and right now he's placed Amani in that category. 😍

You know that George Thorogood song, "One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer"?  Bennett's is "One Toothbrush, One Sock, One Sheet"! 😝

 

[princelina]

6 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I figured she was just being quirky and we were all just lucky that she didn’t break out the unicycle...

At first in that scene I thought she was ON the unicycle 😄 

1 minute ago, Rhiannon Hunter said:

It would have been interesting to see Miles and Henry chatting with Brett about the pros and cons of giving up.

Yes it would have.  Producers!  Pay attention!  And if you need a moderator for that show, please choose Woody over Jamie O!

[Alexander Pope]

5 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I think Amani was expressing how she felt, which is okay. 

 

Amelia was expressing how she felt, nothing more. 

She was singing a jaunty tune! at the sight of the shutdown! for me it struck a discordant note.  YMMV.

[Ilovepie]

2 hours ago, princelina said:

Yes - there are small things one can enjoy that I have been calling "Covid perks" - like now the FedEx person will drop off the wine at the door without one of us having to be home to sign for it 😄   I thought a "Covid perk" for these couples was getting their own cabins rather than having to share a house with everyone!  You can't be miserable about everything all the time.

Agree 100%! I know this has been nightmarish for many people, especially those who have been sick, or have lost loved ones, or for those living in areas that were really hard hit by this. I don’t diminish that at all. Starting in April I was furloughed for three and a half months and I called it my Coronacation. I have not been off that long since I have been an adult - even my maternity leave with both my kids was only three months! I guess it’s just being thankful for the good things you have rather than focusing on the bad. I think Amelia is just a joyful person naturally, and also someone who writes music and sings. I didn’t get the impression she was happy Bourbon Street was empty, just showing that it was.

[Linarina]

Weren't they on a lockdown?  I was irked by both Amelia and Henry being out in the streets.  Stay home, you entitled snowflakes!

[TheMediumBopper]

2 hours ago, Alexander Pope said:

She was singing a jaunty tune! at the sight of the shutdown! for me it struck a discordant note.  YMMV.

Same here. And she's a doctor! I'm a college professor and have had a lot of nursing students and med school students in my first-year English class over the years. Most of them have had their lives completely upended by COVID. I have a student right now, an NP, who's on life support. I'm kind of shocked that Amelia's more focused on what adapting to the new residency in Richmond will be like than thinking about how her job is more essential, more critical and riskier than it has ever been. Not to be a big Debbie Downer here; I know this is just a silly reality show, but it made me lose a lot of respect for her.

[Booger666]

18 hours ago, Ilovepie said:

Dave actually said yes on Decision Day. They stayed together, and one day he came home and SHE had moved all of her stuff out. He was still in it. I don't want to get into it again because there is already a thread for their season, but I kind of feel like people forget he stayed and she left him.

And IIRC they had an argument one morning, he left to play golf and came home to find out SURPRISE she moved out.  He said he thought it was like any little argument they had and they would talk and make up.  They both weren’t perfect in that relationship.

On topic: Amani and Amelia aren’t any different from many of us that think Covid sucks but are seeing the silver lining of spending more time with family, no work commute, a return to simple pleasures like baking and crafts, etc.  

[Hangin Out]

12 hours ago, ChiMama said:

Happy anniversary -- that's awesome! 🙂 Enjoy the day and YEARS of anniversaries to come!

❤️❤️

[Kira53]

 

20 hours ago, Empress1 said:

 (Do they only use one toothbrush between them? I had an argument with an ex who used my toothbrush once. He was like, we have sex though, so is it really that weird? I was like, I understand your point but do not use my toothbrush, kthx.)

I do think the couples should agree on this and Amelia and Bennet are on the same wavelength. Many people would actually see this as extremely mature, realistic thinking rather than the "you got cooties" mentality of childlike thinking. If you think having sex is hygienic I don't know what to tell you.  It's not a framework most people think about when they're having sex or they're kissing their lover.

19 hours ago, Starlight925 said:

I don't understand why they made the spouses remain quarantined together for an extra 2 months, postponing their decision. 

Couldn't they have had "Decision Day" virtually?.

I believe that there were some contractual situations that had not been prepared for. It's startling that they had little to no video content for six weeks of self filming. I certainly was really waiting for the COVID-19 self filming. In theory that would've been the best video.  From the looks of what they were able to share, I believe contractually were not able to use this footage. That probably also prevented them from doing decision day virtually.  Anyway,  they're looking for the highest ratings which involves some manipulation of questions and sitting in tiny loveseats to make people uncomfortable and other things. In the end, production probably didn't wanna pay more to compensate the married couples or the experts and thus no film.We're probably not going to know the truth about this matter for at least a year due to non-disclosure agreements. But it's startlingly obvious that they were not able to use any of the video content from the lockdown.  In the end it's all about the money you know and you got a follow the money.

19 hours ago, spunky said:

I won't even share my toothbrush with my own mother and she gave birth to me, I'm sure as hell not sharing my toothbrush with a SO. I think reality smacked Bennett in the face during lockdown. 

Totally different.

I'm assuming that you don't have sex with your mother or tongue kiss her.  It's all about mindset. I mean sex covers a whole Lotta things that would seem unhygienic.  I'm not saying I wanna share my toothbrush with anybody but if I had a loving intimate relationship I think I'd be a lot more willing to look into changing my mind or attitude about what's hygienic or not worrying about what's hygienic if I was physically intimate with someone in ways that I would probably never discuss with others except a sex therapist.  Again, I think it's cognitive psychology and mindset that makes everybody think certain thing are so disgusting. I certainly remember the first time I heard about sex at age 12 and I thought it was pretty nasty. At that time I certainly would've been more willing to share a toothbrush with someone then to have sex with them.   Then I heard about BJ's and other sexual behaviors.  I think I got over those thoughts through.

[KateHearts]

9 hours ago, Linarina said:

Weren't they on a lockdown?  I was irked by both Amelia and Henry being out in the streets.  Stay home, you entitled snowflakes!

here's where there can be a lot of discord and disagreement. I am not going to judge someone for being outside, without others in close proximity, getting a break from their apartment. As someone who HAD to leave my home every day (essential worker), I don't see the criticism of someone social distancing (as recommended) to just take a break. My husband and I went out and took walks every night throughout the lockdown. People went to grocery stores. So I'm not going to call them "entitled snowflakes" for that.

[cinsays]

15 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

No, it was with Alex! (But I still have my acceptance letter to be on the show in 1971, when Art was the host. Fate stepped in and I was hired as a teacher, so dream deferred for a couple decades!)

Topic: Is next week the Finale? I'm going to guess two couples stay married. IOW, I don't think Karen and Miles will. 

I think Karen and Miles will, just because he might be thinking/hoping that once the cameras are totally off and they are just an ordinary couple, she might loosen up.  I don't think it will happen and they will break up soon after that, when he feels it is just pointless.

[Starlight925]

1 hour ago, Kira53 said:

I believe that there were some contractual situations that had not been prepared for. It's startling that they had little to no video content for six weeks of self filming. I certainly was really waiting for the COVID-19 self filming. In theory that would've been the best video.  From the looks of what they were able to share, I believe contractually were not able to use this footage. That probably also prevented them from doing decision day virtually.  Anyway,  they're looking for the highest ratings which involves some manipulation of questions and sitting in tiny loveseats to make people uncomfortable and other things. In the end, production probably didn't wanna pay more to compensate the married couples or the experts and thus no film.We're probably not going to know the truth about this matter for at least a year due to non-disclosure agreements. But it's startlingly obvious that they were not able to use any of the video content from the lockdown.  In the end it's all about the money you know and you got a follow the money.

Your last sentence is the best explanation I can think of as to why they didn't just have the 8-week Decision Day virtually.  

All about the money, where they probably collaborated and figured they could squeeze a couple of extra months out of the couples, making them even more challenged living outside of their own homes, and have higher ratings later.

Let's face it, almost every "live audience show" went virtual, almost immediately.  Jimmy Fallon, Andy Cohen, Jimmy Kimmel, etc.  Even 90-Day Fiance.  It didn't seem to be that hard:  Production shipped them equipment, and helped them via Zoom calls (or other virtual methods) set it up.  They were even shipped lighting, camera stands, etc.  I saw an interview with one newscaster who turned his garage into a "studio", and said that while yes, it was challenging to set up, the production team was amazing with instructions.  Jimmy Fallon's wife held up her iPhone at first, and they filmed entire shows like that, while his daughters crawled all over him.

Re:  Amelia on her bike.  So what?  She was completely alone (aside from Bennett probably, who was filming her), and she was simply amazed at the empty streets.  Even in the middle of the worst of the pandemic, experts still advised exercise and fresh air.  I live in a densely populated neighborhood full of townhomes, where everyone and their dog, has a dog (lol), and they were all outside.  Everyone wore masks when walking near others, but while walking alone?  Just get outside, get some fresh air, and some Vitamin D.

It's funny, I got to know my neighbors really well, and I've lived here for almost 2 decades.  Some I had never met.  We all social-distanced in chairs outside.  One "annoying guy" who took his conference calls away from his home, would walk right under my home office window every day and talk loudly right outside my window, turned out to be the sweetest guy.  Turned out, he needed to give his partner some space, and had no idea I could even hear him.  We now joke about it.  

Edited October 17, 2020 by Starlight925

[Ilovepie]

2 hours ago, Starlight925 said:

Re:  Amelia on her bike.  So what?  She was completely alone (aside from Bennett probably, who was filming her), and she was simply amazed at the empty streets.  Even in the middle of the worst of the pandemic, experts still advised exercise and fresh air.  I live in a densely populated neighborhood full of townhomes, where everyone and their dog, has a dog (lol), and they were all outside.  Everyone wore masks when walking near others, but while walking alone?  Just get outside, get some fresh air, and some Vitamin D.

Thank you for this. I live in a suburban neighborhood and I never saw so many people out walking with their families and dogs as in the early days of lockdown. I took many walks with my kids and dog because that was all there was to do! 
I am dumbfounded by the criticism of a woman alone on a bicycle! This is exactly what people were told was approved activity. And shame on her for being happy? I say good for her keeping her sanity and spirits up during a sad and frightening time. 

[TheMediumBopper]

36 minutes ago, Ilovepie said:

Thank you for this. I live in a suburban neighborhood and I never saw so many people out walking with their families and dogs as in the early days of lockdown. I took many walks with my kids and dog because that was all there was to do! 
I am dumbfounded by the criticism of a woman alone on a bicycle! This is exactly what people were told was approved activity. And shame on her for being happy? I say good for her keeping her sanity and spirits up during a sad and frightening time. 

It didn't bother me that she was outside and on a bicycle (although a mask would have been nice... I don't recall that she had one on). It bothered me that she appeared to be making light of the empty streets. It bothered me the way it would bother me if someone went down to Ground Zero in NYC and danced a jig. It's about respect. Just my humble o; it's okay that we don't all agree.

Edited October 17, 2020 by TheMediumBopper

[Ilovepie]

1 hour ago, TheMediumBopper said:

It didn't bother me that she was outside and on a bicycle (although a mask would have been nice... I don't recall that she had one on). It bothered me that she appeared to be making light of the empty streets. It bothered me the way it would bother me if someone went down to Ground Zero in NYC and danced a jig. It's about respect. Just my humble o; it's okay that we don't all agree.

I guess it depends on how you interpret it......also, I don’t think she needs a mask to ride her bicycle by herself. I do not wear a mask when I am outside in a place that I can socially distance. When I am at work or in any building the first thing I do when I exit and get away from people is remove my mask. 

[Alexander Pope]

1 hour ago, TheMediumBopper said:

It didn't bother me that she was outside and on a bicycle (although a mask would have been nice... I don't recall that she had one on). It bothered me that she appeared to be making light of the empty streets. It bothered me the way it would bother me if someone went down to Ground Zero in NYC and danced a jig. It's about respect. Just my humble o; it's okay that we don't all agree.

Totally agree.  I should also add that it also didn't bother me that she is in general a happy person! Ditto for Amani.  We all need to get through this the best way we can and seize joy where we find it.  The fact that the show chose to show this footage of her singing again and again made this particular moment even more annoying.

 

[sara416]

Dear Woody,
I'm so sorry I ever compared you to Chicago Nate. You are absolutely not him.
Hoping you can forgive me,
Sara

I really like his persepctive in the talking heads when he is talking about the other couples. He's commenting without being judgemental but you can see his personality. He'd be a lot of fun to hang out with and I think he really does appreciate Amani. 

[Kira53]

5 hours ago, KateHearts said:

here's where there can be a lot of discord and disagreement. I am not going to judge someone for being outside, without others in close proximity, getting a break from their apartment. As someone who HAD to leave my home every day (essential worker), I don't see the criticism of someone social distancing (as recommended) to just take a break. My husband and I went out and took walks every night throughout the lockdown. People went to grocery stores. So I'm not going to call them "entitled snowflakes" for that.

Didn't Bennett say Amelia was volunteering at a shelter during the shut down?

[Hangin Out]

In my state, it was reported today that over 700 college kids were just tested positive.  The President of the college quit.  Now they have to go home to the family.  What then?

 

[Hangin Out]

17 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

"A hot meal every night...." So that's what the 20th Century kidz called it......😉

Forty years, 362 days here. Engaged five weeks after first date. He was a keeper, so I kept him! 😁

Topic: If Miles is a keeper, why doesn't Karen seem to care? 😞

I sure hope Woody is one, for both his and Amani's sakes. He seems to like (what he considers to be) the finer things in life, and right now he's placed Amani in that category. 😍

You know that George Thorogood song, "One Bourbon, One Scotch, One Beer"?  Bennett's is "One Toothbrush, One Sock, One Sheet"! 😝

 

Congratulations.  I guess you’ll make it.  👍

[KateHearts]

15 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

In my state, it was reported today that over 700 college kids were just tested positive.  The President of the college quit.  Now they have to go home to the family.  What then?

 

ohh that's my alma mater. Wow.

[Starlight925]

36 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

In my state, it was reported today that over 700 college kids were just tested positive.  The President of the college quit.  Now they have to go home to the family.  What then?

 

My niece is in a different college, and she got it, as did her roommate.  She's in a gigantic college, tens of thousands of students.

What they did was moved my niece to an empty dorm room and had her isolate/quarantine for 10 days, and her roommate went home to her hometown for the 10 days.  Those are the options for students who test positive:  move to a private room or go home until negative.  (in both cases, both are fine now).

[rebel2u]

On 10/16/2020 at 7:24 AM, Yeah No said:

Eh, I'm actually of the mind that there was more reason for Miles to be depressed than not, especially at that time, even at an event that was supposed to be fun and relaxing.  I don't think even I could have fun and relax during those weeks when it seemed like every other week there was another shooting, and even NOW considering all that is going on out there these days.  I think it was totally appropriate.   He was the one person courageous enough to address the elephant in the room.  I agree with you that every one of them should be feeling "some type of way" about the pandemic and other current events at that time, but if so they all should have addressed it instead of leaving him out there alone, exposed and vulnerable, acting like deer in the headlights of his oncoming train.  I know they're young and perhaps that makes them unable to give more of a mature response, but I wanted to slap them for making me believe that most of them are really that sheltered and clueless about his experience that they can't respond with more than careful, PC platitudes.  Instead we get a disingenuous "apology" from wacko Christina.  Gee, thanks, that's worth less than if she would have kept her stupid mouth shut.  And yes to the person who said that Karen should have come stand by him and at least put her arm around him.

It just made me feel like none of them really wanted to be forced into facing the reality that their little TV show "bubble" was protecting them from.  And while usually I might agree with you that such a getaway is supposed to be about escaping reality, they're ALREADY  "escaped" from reality by being on that stupid show and needed to have a dose of reality for maybe an hour or so before going back to their "regularly scheduled program already in progress".  But that's just my opinion, LOL.

I disagree. I agree that Miles was upset, had a reason to be and a right to express it.  The world is kind of a horrible place right now, for many reasons.  IMO, the participants were respectful to Miles and one expressed empathy. And we don't know what was said that wasn't shown so there may have been more of a discussion  To call the participants (excluding Miles) immature, sheltered, clueless, etc; , labeling the empathy shown as disingenuous etc and stating that "none of them really wanted to be forced into facing the reality that their little TV show "bubble" was protecting them from" and also stating "while usually I might agree with you that such a getaway is supposed to be about escaping reality, they're ALREADY escaped reality" seems a little harsh and judgmental.  I think they're all doing the best they can on this front. 

Edited October 17, 2020 by rebel2u

[antfitz]

On 10/16/2020 at 2:13 PM, Neurochick said:

Gee, it sounds like they were living in a homeless encampment or something.  

 

Maybe they were filming somewhere else.

 IDK why the don't just go to one of their own homes. Each couple could choose a place.

1 hour ago, KateHearts said:

ohh that's my alma mater. Wow.

 And they probably tested positive because they were out in large groups at bars.

[antfitz]

Did anyone else see that Amelia said she didn't really want to get married, but she thought it would be fun to be on a reality show?  I thought Bennett was stunned as I would be. Sometimes the experts are not so good at weeding out.

[antfitz]

On 10/14/2020 at 7:32 PM, Linarina said:

Amani is obviously an awesome friend, but I wonder if she sees things a little differently upon watching Brett and Olivia as the show has aired.  She probably would never admit it (see: good friend), but she's emotionally intelligent and there's no way she'd think Olivia's behavior was conducive to a warm, loving marriage. 

I agree.

 Olivia is one of the ones I like the least.  I don't think she really wanted to get married and make compromises. I think she wanted somebody who made about as much money as she made or more and then she could squeeze him into her schedule and her friends.  She is one cold duck.

On 10/14/2020 at 7:38 PM, Silver Bells said:

Does ANYTHING make Karen happy?  Either she’s complaining about Miles, or the camping room, or how tired she is.  She should just get off the show already.  What a killjoy.                
 

If I were Henry, I would have left after that crack about being gay.  Christina is batso.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 I heard Karen is hung up on her old BF.   And she is the one who said before the marriage even that he wasn't her type. I don't think she'll ever come around and he should just leave her.  I think she thinks she's better than him.

[antfitz]

On 10/16/2020 at 3:40 PM, Ilovepie said:

@Silver Bells CONGRATULATIONS! That is amazing! In this day and age where marriage is so disposable that is something to be proud of. Being married takes so much hard work - I admire people that can work together and make it last! ❤️

Congrats Silver Bells! Hard work, but much joy.

2 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

Congratulations.  I guess you’ll make it.  👍

 Engaged for 3 years and married for 47. He was finishing university,  and I was teaching. 

[Hangin Out]

21 hours ago, Yeah No said:

Wow, and I thought my 40 years was a long time!  Congratulations!  I agree that you really don't know them until after marriage.  Plus when you get married in your 20s people can change and you might find out that they're not the same person you married.  Fortunately that didn't happen to me, but I know people who have had that happen with spouses I knew and would have been blindsided by myself.  When I met my husband I thought of him as a "Rock of Gibraltar" and his basic nature was always rock solid and good and that has never changed even though he has matured and grown up a lot since then (we both have).

Nowadays, 40 is a long time with one person.  I think it’s lucky that two people can survive marriage that long.  I’m sure he’s your best friend.  If there was one word to describe mine, i would say “dependable”.  Whenever I am in a jam or beside myself about something, he is always there and fixes things.  He has my back and that’s a good feeling.  Much luck to you both for many more years.