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S01.E10: Cancel Couture

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Airs 10/02/20

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With her job on the line over a Fashion Week debacle, Emily scrambles to devise a new plan while preparing to say adieu to a good friend.

 

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Wow, this is the skimmed milk version of Darren Star, isn't it? Emily is as unprepared for Paris as Brenda Walsh, dressed like Carrie Bradshaw and always saves the day like Kelsey Peters.

This show's narrative has zero calories. It is also highly predictable (of course perfume Casanova makes sure kitchen Romeo stays around) - but its easy watching and on its streaming platform it will do OK. I doubt it would stay around long on a network.

Mindy, to me, is the most interesting character and she gives the most memorable line in 'you can't punish people for their thoughts. I'm from China, we've tried'. I'd rather watch millenial culture and the culture/generation conflict through her eyes than an American princess out to re-educate old Europe. 

I hope a french person can tell us whether the cacophony of stereotypes in this show are offending or maybe well out of date.

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I watched the whole thing.  It's an easy binge with such short episodes.  I do think the last few episodes, starting with A Family Affair, were better than the first episodes.  I still think Emily and Gabriel are a bit intolerable given who they are vs. who I think the show wants us to think they are.

I think Emily has more chemistry with Matthieu (the fashion heir) and even the married Antoine than she has with Gabriel.  So I'm sad he's staying.  It would be hilarious if he went back to Camille now that he's staying in Paris and was essentially dumped by Emily.

I also don't really get this work place structure.  If I understood things correctly, the firm that bought Savoir was an American firm where Emily and Emily's boss worked.  Emily's boss was initially going to go to Paris to integrate the office.  Once she ended up pregnant, Emily went as the American representative.  How does that make Sylvie Emily's boss with the power to fire her?  She has a specific job that does support what Sylvie does but it sounds like she's not there at Sylvie's behest.

 

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The longer the show went on the more it felt like Katy Keene in Paris. I enjoyed it but can’t help thinking that Mindy in Paris would have been a much better show. How is it that we know more about Mindy and Camille’s backstory than Emily’s? And more importantly why are their backstories more interesting than Emily’s. 

On 10/3/2020 at 8:32 PM, Door County Cherry said:

I also don't really get this work place structure.  If I understood things correctly, the firm that bought Savoir was an American firm where Emily and Emily's boss worked.  Emily's boss was initially going to go to Paris to integrate the office.  Once she ended up pregnant, Emily went as the American representative.  How does that make Sylvie Emily's boss with the power to fire her?  She has a specific job that does support what Sylvie does but it sounds like she's not there at Sylvie's behest.

I feel like the show abandoned it’s own premise about half way through. Kate Walsh disappeared completely and Emily went from the parent companies representative in Paris to just another employee. 

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As others have said, this show is all fluff and no filler. It's enjoyable enough that I watched it all the way through, but it's boring enough that I often opened Tik Tok and watched videos while keeping EIP on the background.  The comparisons to SATC are way off-base. As irritating as Carrie was, SATC had themes that resonated with viewers. This show was bland and predictable and not at all sexy.

The Mindy storyline about being a singer felt contrived. I recognized Park from Mean Girls on Broadway, so I knew they were going to find a way to work in an opportunity for her to sing, just like Ryan  Murphy did with Ben Platt on The Politician. In both cases, it was cringey and made no sense. If they were going to give Mindy a side-plot, they may as well have given one to the two men Emily works with in her office. Those two ar e foppish and one-dimensional.

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On 10/3/2020 at 5:27 AM, Aulty said:

I hope a french person can tell us whether the cacophony of stereotypes in this show are offending or maybe well out of date.

Pourquois pas les deux?

19 hours ago, Dani said:

Mindy in Paris would have been a much better show.

Mindy is by far the most interesting character. I also like Julien. I wish he had more to do than react to Emily.

Paris looked spectacular. It certainly was the dream version of Paris.

 

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4 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Pourquois pas les deux?

It really feels sometimes like this show is written by people whose only knowledge of Paris comes from watching other movies or TV shows about Paris written by people who may, or may not have, actually been there for more than 24 hours. 

 

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42 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Pourquois pas les deux?

Mindy is by far the most interesting character. I also like Julien. I wish he had more to do than react to Emily.

I would love a spinoff featuring Julien and Luc! They were a lot more fun than Emily.

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Everyone was more interesting than Emily. I stuck it out for Paris. Who knows when we can return. And yeah, it's the postcard version, for sure, but since I'm only watching, I'm fine with that.

I asked some eps back for a Camille and Mindy show and I'd still rather have that. Or I'll take a Sylvie and Camille's Mom sit com/rom com, because grown-ass women in Paris? Brava.

This actual thing? Could not have been more predictable. Emily berets: 2. Script: 0.

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13 hours ago, CarpeFelis said:

I would love a spinoff featuring Julien and Luc!

I find Luc’s inappropriate-for-work obsession with sex a bit much, and his cluelessness about it even worse. That whole Eiffel Tower bit was painful to watch.

I do appreciate his support of Emily when she needs it.

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well, it's basically the entertainment equivalent of a Twinkie, completely without substance, But these days-- it's actually nice to turn off the news and watch something mindless. 

I call BS on her wardrobe (who owns that many hats.?!?!) and going from a  social media flack for a drug company, to some kind of influencer/social media engagement wiz for luxury brands. 

I also am trying to get a sense of time-- she screwed up the dates for the big hotel meeting (8/11 vs 11/8), and at the end of the season, the hotel is close to opening (and it's Fashion week-- so late sept early Oct with the hotel opening in Nov)-- so I guess all this happened in 3-4 months. 

 

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Yeah.  I saw an interview with the creator where he said it only covered a few months because they were asking about her "one year term."  

If there's a second two, I imagine that means we'll still be within the same year. 

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I love a bit of light fluffy rom-com, but this had so little substance that the sugar ended up tasting a bit too bitter. Its unfortunate that Emily is the least interesting character in her own show, and that the show is so focused on her. The show has a good supporting cast that seem to lead interesting lives and have interesting backstories, but we never see much of them because almost the entire show is told from Emily's point of view. And Emily basically spends the whole season as a bull in a china shop, just plowing about with little understanding of the culture she is living and working in, and not much desire to learn more about beyond drinking wine and getting into love triangles. I have no clue why so many men seem to find her so charming and are falling for her left and right. 

I do think the last few episodes were stronger than the first half, they had a bit more happening plot wise and some forward momentum, even if that momentum seems to be based around Gabriel and Emily, a couple that has pretty much no chemistry, certainly less than what Emily has with the designer heir. 

Paris looks amazing though, it really did look like a postcard. 

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I liked it, I didn't love it.

The last scene with Gabriel was really hot.

I love the actor who plays the magnate having the affair with Sylvie - Antoine?  He's so fine.

I don't know what the show is missing, but it's missing something.  Maybe it's Emily herself.  I'm not sure. 

I loved everything about it superficially - Paris, food (more please), some of the men, Mindy, Camille.  

I'm sorry but I really don't find that designer heir attractive AT ALL.  He looks all wrong for Emily.  

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4 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I love the actor who plays the magnate having the affair with Sylvie - Antoine?  He's so fine.

That's William Abadie. He plays these kinds of roles fairly often. 

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1 minute ago, dubbel zout said:

That's William Abadie. He plays these kinds of roles fairly often. 

Well I specifically know him as Blair's stepfather from Gossip Girl.  I forgot that he's the Prada guy from SATC.

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I think somebody mentioned he looks like Gavin Rossdale which is pretty damn spot on.  I saw Bush in concert last year and Gavin is still as hot as ever.

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All the work stuff was so blah and predictable. Every slight failure turned into a rousing success showing just how awesome Emily was at her job. She had no personality outside of her job either. Having every guy she meets want her isn't a personality. Do we know anything at all about her except what she does for work? I enjoyed the stuff outside of work a lot more, her friends were fun, and at least with the guys there were things that didn't go perfectly for her.

 

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I feel like Emily had wayyy too many love interests who looked the same.  I had a hard time telling them apart.  At some point, the only way I could tell them apart was if they were older vs younger and the amount of scruff on their face.  Surely Paris has more diversity in straight men other than white and brunet.  Hell, even a blond dude every now and then would have been a nice change of pace.

On 10/3/2020 at 10:32 PM, Door County Cherry said:

I watched the whole thing.  It's an easy binge with such short episodes.  I do think the last few episodes, starting with A Family Affair, were better than the first episodes.

Agreed.  I think once Camille was introduced the cast dynamics started to gel.  They should have introduced her in episode 2 (not 4).

On 10/5/2020 at 8:29 PM, dubbel zout said:

Paris looked spectacular. It certainly was the dream version of Paris.

The overall cinematography for this show was really good.  In particular, the aerial shots (of both Paris and Chicago) were quite beautiful.

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I feel like Emily had wayyy too many love interests who looked the same. 

When she launched herself at a third guy, like a teenager in a cosmetics commercial, I threw down my remote and said "Oh for Pete's sake." All that was missing was her perching on tiptoe and cocking one leg back as she slammed her face into his.

The series went from light and fluffy to annoying and boring, not to mention heavily derivative. As far as I can tell, Emily's day consists of her dashing about in fabulous clothes, punctuated by bouts of supposed marketing brilliance, at least one hijink, and lots of mugging at the camera (in place of acting).

But I hung in there for Paris and the clothes.

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I watched this with my 88-yr-old mother (not exactly the demographic for the show) and we both LOVED IT!

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Wow, Gabriel is staying after telling Antoine he needs an investor? I never would have guessed! Anyway this show was a fun little trifle. Cute boys and cute outfits and a beautiful city.

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I like a bit of fluff as a palate cleanser of sorts. For me this filled the same void that a Bravo show does. Annoying characters?  Check. Ridiculous premise? Check. Expensive, yet questionable fashion choices? Check. Unreal world? Check.  It's a few hours escape to a world light on serious politics and devoid of pandemics or catastrophic events.  

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This show is the perfect way to pass time that isn’t stressful, suspenseful, complicated or affecting. You can just watch pretty people in their pretty clothes in a pretty city living unrealistically uncomplicated lives and forget about it the minute it’s over. In “usual times”, I wouldn’t have bothered with it. These days, it’s a welcome respite. Cotton candy without the stomach ache. 

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This will be renewed for season 2, it is doing amazing all accross Europe.

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I knew from the trailer this was going to be fluffy and fun. Loved that they cast so many pretty men. And it helped that the actor who played Thimothée was definitely no teenager. I thought Emily and Gabriel had great chemistry, so no complaints from me.

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9 hours ago, Harvey said:

This will be renewed for season 2, it is doing amazing all across Europe.

I'm pretty sure the production gets some dough from the various French/Euro art councils, so this isn't that surprising. 

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9 hours ago, Harvey said:

This will be renewed for season 2, it is doing amazing all accross Europe.

I'm happy to hear that because some people are so negative towards this show on social media and some are extremely rude even if you bring it up, so it's nice to hear.

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12 hours ago, Harvey said:

This will be renewed for season 2, it is doing amazing all accross Europe.

It's still in the Top 10 in the US three weeks after debuting (it was still as high as #3 yesterday, I think) which is a pretty long run there so unless it's crazy expensive to make, I agree that it'll get renewed.  

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I also don't really get this work place structure.  If I understood things correctly, the firm that bought Savoir was an American firm where Emily and Emily's boss worked.  Emily's boss was initially going to go to Paris to integrate the office.  Once she ended up pregnant, Emily went as the American representative.  How does that make Sylvie Emily's boss with the power to fire her?  She has a specific job that does support what Sylvie does but it sounds like she's not there at Sylvie's behest.

I didn't understand this either. According to the show's own dialogue, Emily works for a big marketing firm in Chicago that acquired Savoir. As part of the deal, Emily's company gets to bring some of their own people into Savoir. Originally, Emily's boss Madeline was going to go to Paris. Hard to imagine Kate Walsh getting bossed around by Sylvie. It seems like Emily should be their boss, not the other way around, if her company bought their company.

I also found it somewhat distracting that everyone was speaking English after making such a big deal out of Emily's inability to speak French in the first episode. Even in scenes where all the characters are French, they are speaking English. Granted, this is probably preferable to having subtitles all the time, but it was another hurdle I found hard to get past.

Ten bucks says Gabriel gets back together with Camille as soon as she finds out he's staying in Paris. You can see it coming a mile away.

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30 minutes ago, iMonrey said:

It seems like Emily should be their boss, not the other way around, if her company bought their company.

She should be, but it also seems like Emily is junior to Sylvie, whereas Kate Walsh was at least a peer, if not a superior.

They should have just ignored hierarchy altogether and have Emily be the crass American. That's pretty much how they wrote her in the first few episodes anyway.

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