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19 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Someone posted (then deleted) a spoiler (on the episode topic) about Z&M still being married; having been seen (guessing recently) together, wearing rings.

If so, they're either scamming the audience right now, or, are in cahoots with either other, the show, or both.

 

19 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Someone posted (then deleted) a spoiler (on the episode topic) about Z&M still being married; having been seen (guessing recently) together, wearing rings.

If so, they're either scamming the audience right now, or, are in cahoots with either other, the show, or both.

I can't imagine Mindy would still be with Zach, he deserves to be with Lindsay, they would make a great couple!

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22 hours ago, cinsays said:

gosh, I hope that is not true

I don't think Mindy would go along with something like that, she seems too upright and sweet

zack, yeah, I can see him doing a lot of miserable things

I would be very surprised - she deserves someone who will treat her kindly 

I don't put anything past someone going on these shows anymore.

14 hours ago, endure said:

I can't imagine Mindy would still be with Zach, he deserves to be with Lindsay, they would make a great couple!

His own family said he has commitment issues, so there ya go Lindsay.

Mindy is a fool if she stays friends with either one of them.

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Methinks Zach has convinced (mind f*cked) Mrs. Justice in staying married for the duration of the filming schedule including the Reunion...his way of flashing double middle fingers to all his critics

Zach is holding tight to her, taking her under the bus with him since he is the most hated cast member in the history of MAFS.

Why is Mindy obliging him?....two peas fame hos in a pod...

To be sure, Monsieur Pompadour has dislodged Puke as the most despicable in many of our eyes(but not all, so hold your flames)... quite a feat since Pukus is so fresh on our psyches...

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To be sure, Monsieur Pompadour has dislodged Puke as the most despicable in many of our eyes(but not all, so hold your flames)... quite a feat since Pukus is so fresh on our psyches...

They're sort of neck and neck in my mind and I have plenty of disdain to go around!

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2 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

To be sure, Monsieur Pompadour has dislodged Puke as the most despicable in many of our eyes(but not all, so hold your flames)... quite a feat since Pukus is so fresh on our psyches...

It's a triumvirate for me: Luke, Matt and Zach. I still think Matt takes top asshole prize..........

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3 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Methinks Zach has convinced (mind f*cked) Mrs. Justice in staying married for the duration of the filming schedule including the Reunion...his way of flashing double middle fingers to all his critics

Zach is holding tight to her, taking her under the bus with him since he is the most hated cast member in the history of MAFS.

Why is Mindy obliging him?....two peas fame hos in a pod...

To be sure, Monsieur Pompadour has dislodged Puke as the most despicable in many of our eyes(but not all, so hold your flames)... quite a feat since Pukus is so fresh on our psyches...

If you really want to know the results of Zach's and Mindy's marital status, check out the MASFan Instagram account.

As a hint, the reunion show was filmed in LA

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11 minutes ago, GettingGray said:

If you really want to know the results of Zach's and Mindy's marital status, check out the MASFan Instagram account.

As a hint, the reunion show was filmed in LA

Since this is the spoiler thread...could you tell us that are not on the gram?
 

Appreciate the info.

Thanks

 

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2 hours ago, qtpye said:

Since this is the spoiler thread...could you tell us that are not on the gram?
 

Appreciate the info.

Thanks

 

Since you asked, here is the scoop on various couples per the MAFSFan Instagram sight

1. Zach/Mindy get divorced at the end of 8 weeks.  The reunion show takes place in LA where a picture of Zach/Mindy has been shown on the internet but they are not togther.

Do you want to know other spoilers?

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Not surprised that Austin and Jessica were the only ones to stay together.  For now.

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41 minutes ago, GettingGray said:

Okay:

1. Brandon filed for divorce and was not invited to the reunion show

2. Michael filed an annulment the day after filming ended, stating he the marriage was not consummated (no surprise there!).  He also said he felt the show knew it was a bad match and matched only for ratings.

3. Derrick and Seal Face.  They stay married at decision day but are not together at the reunion.

4. Austin & Jessica.  They are spotted at the same table in a restaurant in LA during the reunion show, so it is assumed they are the only couple that makes it through the reunion together.

 

This show is a guilty pleasure for me.  I'm pretty old and male, so not the typical viewer and have watched all the seasons.  I'm not sure what that says about me!

 

Thank you👍👍

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Pardon my ignorance....

Is MAFS shooting the upcoming season currently?

Have they suspended production?

If not, Sheltering in place with an instant stranger/spouse with go pros would need to include combat pay....

A hiatus in the constant churning out of bad matches may be a tiny silver lining to our current life situation....

Can imagine a new reality for pre production like in depth medical questioning, any international travel in the previous year, etc ...

Love to hate MAFS but it is a welcomed respite during the hunkering down.

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Call me a bitter ol' hag I don't care, but those gaudy, big assed engagement rings don't mean a thing.   😐

That is, unless you want to pawn it. 😏

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5 hours ago, humbleopinion said:

Love to hate MAFS but it is a welcomed respite during the hunkering down.

I dunno, lately (as in last few seasons) this show hasn't been much of a respite for me. 😟

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36 minutes ago, Ohwell said:

Call me a bitter ol' hag I don't care, but those gaudy, big assed engagement rings don't mean a thing.   😐

You are right, they are just a symbol, but I wouldn't say no to that ring! (Caw! Caw!) My father always accuses me and my sister and stepmother of being a bunch of crows - we like shiny jewelry! 😜

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2 hours ago, Ohwell said:

Call me a bitter ol' hag I don't care, but those gaudy, big assed engagement rings don't mean a thing.   😐

That is, unless you want to pawn it. 😏

IIRC, it's actually subtle compared to the atrocity Jason gave her.

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1 hour ago, gonecrackers said:

IIRC, it's actually subtle compared to the atrocity Jason gave her.

I was referring to those celebrity rings in that video in the link.

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1 minute ago, Ohwell said:

I was referring to those celebrity rings in that video in the link.

Sorry; my bad.

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1 hour ago, Ohwell said:

I was referring to those celebrity rings in that video in the link.

Oh yup.  The ones the celebrity female half pays for out of her own money. 

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I LOVE the lamp arrangement over Dr. Coles left shoulder.  Some set designer has a really good eye and aesthetic.  If only I was till buying things,  But, alas, no.  

Most of the guys on this season are giant pos.  

I watched season one of this, did not like Jamie, she is still kinda annoying,   But I like her husband so.....ok.  Then came season two and I thought Hell No and dismissed it.  Then I was wandering and came across this again.  So I thought ok, I’ll give it a try.  And here I am, not hooked but will squint my eyes to the icky end.  

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Cortney is on Reality Steve’s latest podcast.  I haven’t listened to it yet.  I heard her on another podcast a few months ago and she almost rivaled Zach with her word salad.  I don’t know if I’m ready to subject myself to that right now.  

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On 3/17/2020 at 7:31 PM, GettingGray said:

2. Michael filed an annulment the day after filming ended, stating he the marriage was not consummated (no surprise there!).  He also said he felt the show knew it was a bad match and matched only for ratings.

Interesting that he's the only one going after an annulment on the grounds of no sex. After all that happened with them even up 'till now, I believe that he did give Meka an ultimatum before the honeymoon, didn't expect to be called out for it, so was continually pissed at her throughout the rest of their time together. That might even be why the ridiculous, 'pathic level of lying. He's a mess & I hope he does not get the annulment. Many couples did not consummate & no one got an annulment (not sure anyone else even tried). He applied to be married on a TV show just like the others, so this 'special' snowflake does not deserve an annulment either.

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Michael not getting an annulment wouldn't help Meka at all.  I mean, suppose she meets someone else she's interested in, or she just wants to be free of Michael?  I just doubt she'd want to still be married to Michael.   The only thing that might piss her off is that she didn't file first.

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Not sure what Meka has to do with this given Michael is the one seeking annulment. For whatever reason he feels better than every other MAFS participant, & there are many, who ended up divorced.  It's a risk they all know they are taking.

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26 minutes ago, gonecrackers said:

Not sure what Meka has to do with this given Michael is the one seeking annulment. For whatever reason he feels better than every other MAFS participant, & there are many, who ended up divorced.  It's a risk they all know they are taking.

if they can legally get an annulment, why is that so wrong? this was never really a marriage

the rest of them should do the same

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2 minutes ago, cinsays said:

if they can legally get an annulment, why is that so wrong? this was never really a marriage

the rest of them should do the same

The point I'm making is it's never been an option for anyone thus far, so why should it be all of a sudden? The show makes it clear, "stay married or get a divorce".

Whatever I guess. If he gets it it's good for both of them, & maybe it'll set a precedent. "Stay married, or get a divorce/annulment".

And if I were Meka I would've definitely filed right after that awful 'honeymoon' with the crazy liar. But, he's doing her a huge favor so there's that.

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8 hours ago, Koalagirl said:

Cortney is on Reality Steve’s latest podcast.  I haven’t listened to it yet.  I heard her on another podcast a few months ago and she almost rivaled Zach with her word salad.  I don’t know if I’m ready to subject myself to that right now.  

I listened to it.  She talks about Jason a lot.  I think it's weird she is getting information about Jason from "mutual friends" living in New York.  She's been on three podcasts since November and lied again about when and how she met her fiance.  I stopped listening when she told Steve they've been living together for two months.  Really Cortney, wow.  I'm starting to believe the cheating rumors.  

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2 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

The point I'm making is it's never been an option for anyone thus far, so why should it be all of a sudden? The show makes it clear, "stay married or get a divorce".

Whatever I guess. If he gets it it's good for both of them, & maybe it'll set a precedent. "Stay married, or get a divorce/annulment".

And if I were Meka I would've definitely filed right after that awful 'honeymoon' with the crazy liar. But, he's doing her a huge favor so there's that.

Divorce verses annulment has nothing to do with the show. Those are legal proceedings. The show can't grant a divorce. If the petitioning  party  meets the criteria for divorce or annulment  under the applicable state law, the party would be entitled  to the requested relief. I am assuming these are legal marriages as stated in the show. 

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On 3/11/2020 at 12:54 AM, Yeah No said:

I think this show has become an offense against women in general.  Maybe it always has been but I'm just getting tired of it.

Blind Date is so much fresher.

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5 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

The point I'm making is it's never been an option for anyone thus far, so why should it be all of a sudden? The show makes it clear, "stay married or get a divorce".

Whatever I guess. If he gets it it's good for both of them, & maybe it'll set a precedent. "Stay married, or get a divorce/annulment".

And if I were Meka I would've definitely filed right after that awful 'honeymoon' with the crazy liar. But, he's doing her a huge favor so there's that.

My good friend is a divorce lawyer and says that if they are legally married they have a right to pursue annulment under the specific laws that define annulment in the state where they were married.  The only thing the show can do to try to get them to divorce is to put something in their contracts about forfeiting something the show gave them if they don't actually divorce.  I can't imagine why they would do that, though.  My question is do we know that no one on this show has ever gotten an annulment?  I would have assumed that season 4's Heather would have pursued one from Derek given how short that marriage lasted, plus she might have had grounds to claim misrepresentation and even fraud over his "smoking".

Given that Michael lied about getting a job at a Catholic school, could he be a Roman Catholic and a legal annulment is important to him so that he can get remarried in the church?  I'm just speculating.  People have different reasons for pursuing annulment as opposed to divorce.  I can see that given the unique nature of the marriages on this show some people would prefer annulment so that they can convince their families and friends that there is "no lingering stain" on their record or reputations.  It's mostly psychological, but it can feel better if they can use annulment to convince themselves and their families/friends that this was never a "real" marriage.  Obviously the show wants them to consider it a "real marriage" which is why they probably push the divorce angle so that the couples don't think they can easily pursue annulment and not have to face the consequences of really being married.

And also speaking of annulment, after this most recent episode I wondered if the reason Zach was talking to Mindy's girlfriend was to find out some dirt on her that he could use to have grounds for annulment as opposed to divorce.  Annulment is simpler than divorce, or at least it was simpler before no fault divorce, but even now it ensures that no one is going to try to get things distributed more in their favor.  It also makes it almost as if the marriage never happened in the eyes of the law, so I can understand why some people would prefer that.  It would also explain why both he and Mindy's girlfriend deleted their text exchange - because Zach doesn't want anyone to know he was already looking for an out at the same time he was lying to the camera about wanting to see the commitment at least through the end of the 8 weeks.

I'm wondering if Mindy's so-called "friend" outed her on something like that she is unable to have children, or that she has massive undisclosed debt, or that maybe she has some sort of STD and deliberately did not admit to whatever it was to the experts when she applied to be on the show.  Those are all things I've read can often qualify as grounds for annulment.  If Zach can claim that she denied whatever it was to the experts when asked about any such issues, he might have grounds.  I wouldn't put it past him to have done that.  I don't trust that anything the friend said about her was true, though, or that Zach is being honest about it.  What a dirt bag.

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3 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

My good friend is a divorce lawyer and says that if they are legally married they have a right to pursue annulment under the specific laws that define annulment in the state where they were married.  The only thing the show can do to try to get them to divorce is to put something in their contracts about forfeiting something the show gave them if they don't actually divorce.  I can't imagine why they would do that, though.  My question is do we know that no one on this show has ever gotten an annulment?  I would have assumed that season 4's Heather would have pursued one from Derek given how short that marriage lasted, plus she might have had grounds to claim misrepresentation and even fraud over his "smoking".

Given that Michael lied about getting a job at a Catholic school, could he be a Roman Catholic and an annulment is important to him so that he can get remarried in the church?  I'm just speculating.  People have different reasons for pursuing annulment as opposed to divorce.  I can see that given the unique nature of the marriages on this show some people would prefer annulment so that they can convince their families and friends that there is "no lingering stain" on their record or reputations.  It's mostly psychological, but it can feel better if they can use annulment to convince themselves and their families/friends that this was never a "real" marriage.  Obviously the show wants them to consider it a "real marriage" which is why they probably push the divorce angle so that the couples don't think they can easily pursue annulment and not have to face the consequences of really being married.

And also speaking of annulment, after this most recent episode I wondered if the reason Zach was talking to Mindy's girlfriend was to find out some dirt on her that he could use to have grounds for annulment as opposed to divorce.  Annulment is simpler than divorce, or at least it was simpler before no fault divorce, but even now it ensures that no one is going to try to get things distributed more in their favor.  It also makes it almost as if the marriage never happened in the eyes of the law, so I can understand why some people would prefer that.  It would also explain why both he and Mindy's girlfriend deleted their text exchange - because Zach doesn't want anyone to know he was already looking for an out at the same time he was lying to the camera about wanting to see the commitment at least through the end of the 8 weeks.

I'm wondering if Mindy's so-called "friend" outed her on something like that she is unable to have children, or that she has massive undisclosed debt, or that maybe she has some sort of STD and deliberately did not admit to whatever it was to the experts when she applied to be on the show.  Those are all things I've read can often qualify as grounds for annulment.  If Zach can claim that she denied whatever it was to the experts when asked about any such issues, he might have grounds.  I wouldn't put it past him to have done that.  I don't trust that anything the friend said about her was true, though, or that Zach is being honest about it.  What a dirt bag.

I don’t think Michael is seeking an annulment from the church. As I understand it, since he wasn’t married in the church, the church doesn’t recognize the marriage. He has a legal marriage but hasn’t participated in the sacrament of marriage (with a priest and in a church). So I think he’s getting a legal annulment not a religious one.

Honestly, though, it all seems like semantics to me. If I met someone and started dating him, I don’t want to find out after he tells me that he’s never been married that he actually was married but it doesn’t count because it was annulled. I want to hear “I was married and it was annulled.” And before I get involved with him, I want him to be divorced or annulled or whatever he’s doing - I don’t want him to still be married. But I don’t much care if the mechanism of marital dissolution is a divorce or an annulment.

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28 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I don’t think Michael is seeking an annulment from the church. As I understand it, since he wasn’t married in the church, the church doesn’t recognize the marriage. He has a legal marriage but hasn’t participated in the sacrament of marriage (with a priest and in a church). So I think he’s getting a legal annulment not a religious one.

No I didn't mean he was getting a church annulment, only a legal one.  But if he is a Roman Catholic and wants to get married again he does have to have a legal annulment to qualify to get married in the church if that's what he wants to do, or so I have read.  The RC church does not allow divorced people to have a church wedding in an RC church but unless I've misunderstood something, they might allow it if the marriage has been legally annulled and the grounds for the annulment meet their criteria.  Not sure on that, though.

I know a case in which a woman got married to a man in a civil ceremony and later it was found out he was already married so she got a legal annulment.  She was later able to marry in the Episcopal church back in the 1950s because the grounds upon which she got her legal annulment were recognized by the church.

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46 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I don’t think Michael is seeking an annulment from the church. As I understand it, since he wasn’t married in the church, the church doesn’t recognize the marriage. He has a legal marriage but hasn’t participated in the sacrament of marriage (with a priest and in a church). So I think he’s getting a legal annulment not a religious one.

Honestly, though, it all seems like semantics to me. If I met someone and started dating him, I don’t want to find out after he tells me that he’s never been married that he actually was married but it doesn’t count because it was annulled. I want to hear “I was married and it was annulled.” And before I get involved with him, I want him to be divorced or annulled or whatever he’s doing - I don’t want him to still be married. But I don’t much care if the mechanism of marital dissolution is a divorce or an annulment.

Exactly - one assumes that they will disclose to future partners that they were on this shitshow - after that who cares if it was an annulment or a DIVORCE!

29 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

No I didn't mean he was getting a church annulment, only a legal one.  But if he is a Roman Catholic and wants to get married again he does have to have a legal annulment to qualify to get married in the church if that's what he wants to do, or so I have read.  The RC church does not allow divorced people to have a church wedding in an RC church but unless I've misunderstood something, they might allow it if the marriage has been legally annulled and the grounds for the annulment meet their criteria.  Not sure on that, though.

As the above poster said, the RC church would not consider it a marriage unless done by a priest in a RC ceremony, so for those reasons the divorce wouldn't count either.

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7 minutes ago, princelina said:

Exactly - one assumes that they will disclose to future partners that they were on this shitshow - after that who cares if it was an annulment or a DIVORCE!

As the above poster said, the RC church would not consider it a marriage unless done by a priest in a RC ceremony, so for those reasons the divorce wouldn't count either.

In this day and age one might think most people wouldn't care, but if they are religious and their families care about appearances it might make a difference to them.  It's probably more to avoid the social stigma of being divorced that they would want to avoid it and seek civil annulment instead.  So if their families and friends want to tell them they made a mistake they can point to the annulment and act like it never happened.

I liked the way the author of this article put it:

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Certainly being a divorcée (or divorcé) carries less of a stigma now than it did fifty years ago. But for some people, a divorce is a public admission of failure. “There still is a pejorative connotation for divorce that people feel is not there for annulment,” says Green. “They don’t have to say they’re divorced because technically they’re not divorced.” This is particularly relevant for someone who has been the victim of fraud—you don’t want to check that “divorced” box for the rest of your life because someone pulled a fast one on you.

 

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11 hours ago, gonecrackers said:

Interesting that he's the only one going after an annulment on the grounds of no sex.

I read he also claimed she had deceived him, and that was the main issue, not the not consummated part.

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1 hour ago, Yeah No said:

In this day and age one might think most people wouldn't care, but if they are religious and their families care about appearances it might make a difference to them.  It's probably more to avoid the social stigma of being divorced that they would want to avoid it and seek civil annulment instead.  So if their families and friends want to tell them they made a mistake they can point to the annulment and act like it never happened.

IMO if people care about the "social stigma" they can just not mention it and pretend it never happened - the only people it would actually matter to are the next partners/spouses of the contestants and I would hope they'd be told anyway.

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13 hours ago, Desert Rat said:

Divorce verses annulment has nothing to do with the show. Those are legal proceedings. The show can't grant a divorce. If the petitioning  party  meets the criteria for divorce or annulment  under the applicable state law, the party would be entitled  to the requested relief. I am assuming these are legal marriages as stated in the show. 

Exactly.  Same with this whole decision day meaning you commit for life. Nope. Once the show is over if you want to divorce/annul there is nothing the show has to say about it.

 

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10 hours ago, Yeah No said:

No I didn't mean he was getting a church annulment, only a legal one.  But if he is a Roman Catholic and wants to get married again he does have to have a legal annulment to qualify to get married in the church if that's what he wants to do, or so I have read.  The RC church does not allow divorced people to have a church wedding in an RC church but unless I've misunderstood something, they might allow it if the marriage has been legally annulled and the grounds for the annulment meet their criteria.  Not sure on that, though.

I know a case in which a woman got married to a man in a civil ceremony and later it was found out he was already married so she got a legal annulment.  She was later able to marry in the Episcopal church back in the 1950s because the grounds upon which she got her legal annulment were recognized by the church.

I know a woman who got divorced after decades of marriage and a couple kids and managed to get an annulment from the Catholic church by throwing some money and influence at the local parish. Her grandkids were horrified and angry and I'm still not sure how the heck she managed to pull that off.

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6 minutes ago, Valegro said:

I know a woman who got divorced after decades of marriage and a couple kids and managed to get an annulment from the Catholic church by throwing some money and influence at the local parish. Her grandkids were horrified and angry and I'm still not sure how the heck she managed to pull that off.

My godmother used to process the annulments for her church and it astonished me. She really bought into the line of bullshit the church uses to justify them too. 

I knew a guy who was married for years and had like, four kids. He had an affair and his partner wanted to get married in the church, so he divorced wife one, got an annulment and married wife two in the church. They went on to have two children together. I always felt badly for his first family - to be told that the marriage somehow "wasn't real" and the kids were "illegitimate" after all that time. What a farce. 

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10 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

I read he also claimed she had deceived him, and that was the main issue, not the not consummated part.

Well, I'd like to hear more about that one, except, I wouldn't believe him anyway. 😕🙄

53 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:

I knew a guy who was married for years and had like, four kids. He had an affair and his partner wanted to get married in the church, so he divorced wife one, got an annulment and married wife two in the church. They went on to have two children together. I always felt badly for his first family - to be told that the marriage somehow "wasn't real" and the kids were "illegitimate" after all that time. What a farce. 

Cousin of mine married a dick like this. Twenty plus years of marriage, 3 kids, & she discovered he had a 10+ year affair. She files for divorce but he's able to get an annulment & marries his bitch. Wtf

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2 hours ago, gonecrackers said:
12 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

I read he also claimed she had deceived him, and that was the main issue, not the not consummated part.

Well, I'd like to hear more about that one, except, I wouldn't believe him anyway. 😕🙄

I found the article I read, it's from late February,  And correction, it was not that she had deceived him, but the show.  He also takes issue with her real name being Kwaneja Jones and  some folderol about that.

https://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-married-at-first-sight-star-michael-watson-seeking-annulment-from-meka-jones-claiming-show-defrauded-him-into-marriage-27281.php

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I'd say it's probable that the show deceives all of them to some extent.

Maybe she didn't tell him her real name because she read him right away & didn't want the psycho to find her after.

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I'm not putting all the deception on Michael.  A name change is a big deal, although I think she changed it because she thought Meka sounded better for tv than that other name.  

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Anyone know if Katie and Derek stayed together ? They’re the only couple that could go either way at the end of the show .. as for long term , I know they won’t make it . 

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@Jaclyn88, it's been reported a few places that they agreed to stay together at Decision Day, but are not together by the reunion. So, yeah - they made it for 8 weeks, but not 3 months more.

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