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3 hours ago, DonnaMae said:

Her clothes are very boring. 

WTH does that even mean. She's suppose to wear sparkles and bedazzled low-cut form-fitting dresses and while we're at it, hook a mess-load of extensions in her hair so she looks like she just got a rose on The Bachelor? This is Jeopardy!, not Temptation Island.

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3 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

WTH does that even mean. She's suppose to wear sparkles and bedazzled low-cut form-fitting dresses and while we're at it, hook a mess-load of extensions in her hair so she looks like she just got rose on The Bachelor? This is Jeopardy!, not Temptation Island.

I was about to defend the idea of her blazers being boring, but the guys all dress alike and we don't think they're boring. Why do the ladies have to wear different outfits & different styles when the guys don't? That said, I still think Mayim's blazers are clunky-looking.

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7 minutes ago, saber5055 said:

WTH does that even mean. She's suppose to wear sparkles and bedazzled low-cut form-fitting dresses and while we're at it, hook a mess-load of extensions in her hair so she looks like she just got rose on The Bachelor? This is Jeopardy!, not Temptation Island.

Of course not!  But she could be a little more stylish than wearing schoolmarm blazers, dark colors, and loafers.  I'm not a fan of Katie Couric, but I thought she chose stylish clothes when she hosted.

 

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I think Mayim is stylish too, but just not the same style as Katie Couric. Katie is really very traditional media while Mayim is dressing with a quirk. She's not a corporate personality; Katie has been vanilla forever so she doesn't offend anyone anywhere with her clothes. I prefer Mayim's style, personally. And I'm someone with twenty years in a field that requires me to dress like Katie.

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48 minutes ago, Prevailing Wind said:

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Should we start referring to Triple Stumpers as Igornance Tones?

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My Ignorance Tones for the evening: Louis and Ferdinand (although after her reaction to the players not knowing it I'm a little annoyed to give Mayim the satisfaction). 

Did not know FJ.

Don't remember if I ran any categories and I'm too lazy to check. 

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I said clef, but I knew enclave was right when I saw it.

I got the missed clues of Louis, maids-a-milking, adroit, facile, and Ferdinand.

I got the entire categories of education and groups of 12 right and the entire category of baseball wrong.

 

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Congrats to Katie!  Especially since she was in the red at the beginning.  Did I imagine it, or was middle guy bouncing slightly?  

I got FJ, but I had to think about it for a bit.  

The only TS I got was Ferdinand.  

 

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That bright shade of pink Mayim wore today on her last Jeopardy guest hosting is *her* color!
But I also get why she couldn't exactly lead with that color on Jeopardy.
{end of fashion commentary}

Mom would have totally run the baseball category. I got bupkis.

Mike was a strong contestant, but Katie is the one I wanted to see more of, so I'm glad she won. 

Ankit was right, IMO, to bet as much as he did on the DD he lost; it was probably his only real chance of winning against the 2 other strong opponents. I felt bad that he beat himself up over it, but I was glad that he managed to get back on the Jeopardy horse and ride a good number of clues to correct questions.

After a long but great afternoon with extended family that followed a night of just a few hours of sleep, I could only see the correct faces that matched the clues --not name them (e.g., Frida Kahlo and Ferdinand the Bull). I probably should have gone back to sleep when my Jeopardy alarm woke me from my 15-minute nap and watched the recording later, but I was too groggy to make such a wise decision, LOL. But I did still manage to come up with some Science answers before they were spoken.

 

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20 minutes ago, Katy M said:

I said clef, but I knew enclave was right when I saw it.

My music education took me from key to clef, which fortunately took me to enclave.

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Knowing FDR's middle name belongs in the Toddler Tournament, not a regular game.

The way Mayim said, "Come on, guys, who is Ferdinand?" was funny.

I came so close to running the first round, but missed the maids a-milking TS in Groups of 12 and boxer in Also a Dog Breed.  I almost ran DJ, too; I only missed two in Ghost, one in Buster, and adroit in Skillful Words & Phrases, which annoyed me because I usually run vocabulary categories.

For the first time this week, FJ was not an instaget, but I did come up with it just in time, so I still finished out the week with a great game.

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58 minutes ago, Bastet said:

For the first time this week, FJ was not an instaget, but I did come up with it just in time, so I still finished out the week with a great game.

Congratulations, @Bastet!  👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿

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I'm pleased Mayim had one last opportunity to remind us that she is both an actor (drink!) and a scientist (drink!).  How nice that Jeopardy! was able to provide the ideal platform for these many skills to coalesce.  I said yesterday that I hadn't minded the reiterations of her background, but today, oy.

I said "learning aid" instead of "visual aid."  I don't see how they could rule that wrong, having not tied it to a definition from a specific source.  Unless I'm missing something, that was a pretty vague question.  I did get everything under "Skillfull," but that's all.  Kinda defeats the point, doesn't it?

All three contestants were pretty likable.  It was nice to see Katie surprise herself.  Maybe she'll be more confident next week.  By the way, in case it comes up, the title of the book about the peace-loving bull is not "Ferdinand the Bull" but "The Story of Ferdinand."  Although he's so agreeable, he'd take it either way.

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This was the second show in a row where a jewel was incorrectly referred to as a gem. (The Diamond Head clue.)   /Pet Peeve

Baseball categories are my favorites. I ran it with ease, especially with photographs of Josh Gibson and Barry Bonds, both of whom I recognized before reading the clue.

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23 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

This was the second show in a row where a jewel was incorrectly referred to as a gem. (The Diamond Head clue.)   /Pet Peeve

I was just looking at that on j-archive and noticed the descriptive term is in quotes, meaning, in the case, “gem” is a colloquial term:

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This "gem" is an extinct volcanic cone with a summit that overlooks Honolulu

But on the previous day’s clue, no quotes are used:

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In the 19th century a poisonous copper compound was used to make a green pigment named for this gem [j-archive.com/showgame.php?game_id=7042].

However, Wikipedia editors citing 3 sources currently claim (wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemstone) the terms are interchangeable:

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A gemstone (also called a gem, fine gem, jewel, precious stone, or semi-precious stone)…

and my father passed 6 years ago, so I can’t ask him. 

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7 hours ago, ProudMary said:

This was the second show in a row where a jewel was incorrectly referred to as a gem. (The Diamond Head clue.)   /Pet Peeve

Closed captioning revealed the correct response as "Diamond Ted."  I got a good laugh from that one.

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On 6/11/2021 at 6:56 AM, Browncoat said:

Much like Alex, who managed to turn nearly every interview into something about himself.

Was Alex that way when he first started?  Like in the first two weeks he hosted was he self-absorbed?  I can understand how that can happen over time given that he has hosted for 36 years, and knowing he had all the answers, I get it.  

IMO, Mayim had started to come off as self-absorbed in under two weeks of hosting.  There is a huge difference.  And I do like Mayim, but she shouldn't have put so much focus on herself.  I don't like it when any host does that.

 

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From what I’ve read, Mayim dresses conservatively in accordance with her religion/faith.  I liked her bubbly personality and little asides about herself.  My sister didn’t know Mayim has a PhD so not everyone is as up on stuff as this group.  

Had no clue as to FJ!  

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I'm curious, not trying to be snarky, but what does she DO with that neuroscience degree besides push some pills on a commercial?  I do think it's something to be proud of, but what does ANY neuroscientist do? Especially one who has a job acting in TV series...  Like I said, I'm curious.

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1 hour ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I'm curious, not trying to be snarky, but what does she DO with that neuroscience degree besides push some pills on a commercial? 

Why don't you ask these people what they are doing with their college degrees. Age listed is how old they were when receiving their new degrees:

Leo Plass, 99; Nola Ochs, 98; Twila Boston, 98; Allan Stewart, 97; Cliff Dadson, 93. There are more here.

Some people graduate college to prove something to themselves or to achieve a personal goal. A guy I knew who had a BA in history from Iowa worked decades on the line at a tractor factory putting tires on combines.

3 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

Closed captioning revealed the correct response as "Diamond Ted."

Jim's brother, no doubt.

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3 hours ago, PaulaO said:

From what I’ve read, Mayim dresses conservatively in accordance with her religion/faith.  I liked her bubbly personality and little asides about herself. 

She does; it's why her (not religious) character on Big Bang never wore pants (actually, I think she wore sweatpants in one scene, but that was the only time). I didn't really notice too many asides about her education but I did kind of roll my eyes at her comment about using her acting and science skills as host. Acting, sure, but they give her the answers; how is she using her science skills? But Jeopardy does play into a general interest in education, I'll give her that.

2 hours ago, Prevailing Wind said:

I'm curious, not trying to be snarky, but what does she DO with that neuroscience degree besides push some pills on a commercial?  I do think it's something to be proud of, but what does ANY neuroscientist do? Especially one who has a job acting in TV series...  Like I said, I'm curious.

She has a (relatively new) podcast where she discusses mental health and ties in the neuroscience aspect. Other than that...? I'm sure there's lots of research going on into how the brain works but I don't think she's involved in that. Though when she's discussing it for a lay audience I suppose it's helpful that she has a background in it.

1 hour ago, saber5055 said:

Some people graduate college to prove something to themselves or to achieve a personal goal. A guy I knew who had a BA in history from Iowa worked decades on the line at a tractor factory putting tires on combines.

I have a BA in English Literature and I work with data in the finance department of a warehouse. 🤷🏻‍♀️ 

1 hour ago, saber5055 said:

Jim's brother, no doubt.

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3 hours ago, PaulaO said:

My sister didn’t know Mayim has a PhD so not everyone is as up on stuff as this group.  

Good point. I can imagine Mayim considering whether or not to mention her PhD on each episode or not, and deciding to do it because

  • It sets an example for young women (although, as mentioned above, that's somewhat debatable) 
  • Not everyone will pay attention every time she says it, and it's something she believes is an important credential for her to be considered as a permanent host (if she is considering that)
  • It's who she is and part of her brand, and she feels the need to state that on each show for those randomly tuning in, perhaps expecting to see Alex or at least an Alex clone

I think variations on these reasons would also explain why she states she is an actor at the start of each game.

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Although many people have degrees and graduate degrees that are not necessarily reflected in their careers, I think that very few of these people talk about their degrees when introducing themselves.

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19 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

Although many people have degrees and graduate degrees that are not necessarily reflected in their careers, I think that very few of these people talk about their degrees when introducing themselves.

And all of these "very few" people you reference have hosted WHICH game show on television?

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1 hour ago, ams1001 said:

I'm sure there's lots of research going on into how the brain works but I don't think she's involved in that.

I thought she'd had a research paper published after her PhD dissertation (not that a dissertation on "hypothalamic regulation in relation to maladaptive, obsessive-compulsive, affiliative, and satiety behaviors in Prader-Willi syndrome" isn't enough!), but in looking it up I see that parenthood - she had her first kid while in the process of collecting and analyzing data and got pregnant with the second right after filing her thesis - caused her to switch from pursuing the research and teaching track to returning to acting (better schedule, since she was the primary caregiver, plus better pay and SAG health insurance).  But she has written several books that incorporate science.

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On 6/12/2021 at 2:32 PM, saber5055 said:

And all of these "very few" people you reference have hosted WHICH game show on television?

I guess I don't see why introducing oneself on television would require one's academic degrees.

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4 hours ago, seacliffsal said:

I guess I don't see why introducing oneself on television would require one's academic degrees.

I'm guessing in Mayim's situation --in which she has reason to be concerned that she might not be taken seriously as a Jeopardy host because most only know her as a character actor on sitcoms-- it might be a good idea to let the Jeopardy audience know of her credentials, especially since she brings to the table a knowledge of science that is likely deeper than all of the guest hosts who are well-versed in news and other current events.

Perhaps she was coached to give her credentials that way by her agent.

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42 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

I'm guessing in Mayim's situation --in which she has reason to be concerned that she might not be taken seriously as a Jeopardy host because most only know her as a character actor on sitcoms-- it might be a good idea to let the Jeopardy audience know of her credentials, especially since she brings to the table a knowledge of science that is likely deeper than all of the guest hosts who are well-versed in news and other current events.

Perhaps she was coached to give her credentials that way by her agent.

I think people might believe that she only played a scientist on the Big Bang Theory. They may not realize she had another career and some people don't watch Jeopardy every day so she mentioned her credentials.

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I fast forward through the intros anyway so doesn't bother me.   No idea what she says.  

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7 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

Perhaps she was coached to give her credentials that way by her agent.

It may even be something the Jeopardy producers are encouraging.  I sometimes wonder how much of what the guest hosts say is pre-scripted, and how much is off-the-cuff.

Full disclosure, I've been a fan of Mayim ever since she was a child actor, so I find it hard to think ill of her.  I'm not crazy about her anti-vaccination beliefs, but I think she did a good job as host.  Her sitcom has apparently been renewed for a second season (somewhat to my surprise; it's quite bad), so I don't know that she would have time to be the permanent host, even if she were interested.

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3 hours ago, MrAtoz said:

Her sitcom has apparently been renewed for a second season (somewhat to my surprise; it's quite bad)

Boy howdy, you are not wrong about that. Too bad "How does this show stay on the air?" is not a J! category :)

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For FJ, I thought of Monroe Doctrine - two-word Nineteenth Century foreign policy - but the definition - to leave the parties to themselves in the hope others will do the same - is not exactly what I remember from school.

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2 minutes in…nope, Savannah’s voice is going to be an issue 😬

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Not a bad game tonight...

J!: Ran That's Heavy, Man, got the DD, TS of second base (a total guess), aircraft carrier, vodka (also a guess, but Gorky Park is Russian, so it seemed logical), and Beau Brummel (thank you, Annie) and missed only 8 clues (and no more than 2 in any category). 73%

DJ: Ran Musical Sequels, got no DDs, got the TS of masks, International Criminal Court, Omar Khayyam, and Steve Jobs (again, a total guess). Missed 9 clues (again, no more than 2 in any category). 70%

FJ: All I could think of was laissez-faire but I knew that wasn't right. 70% for the game.

I liked Savannah well enough as host. She might annoy me as time goes on. We'll see.

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Oh, for fuck's sake, now I have to put up with Katie for another damned game, damn it.

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I said laissez-faire.  Monroe Doctrine came to my mind first, but for some reason, I didn't think it fit the clue.

I got the missed clues of vodka, gin, masks and international criminal court.

I got the entire category of musicals, of all things, right.

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A lot of misses for easy clues tonight, I thought.

Savannah was off to a good start.

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I came up with laissez-faire too.  I never would have thought of the Monroe Doctrine.  Oh well.  Of the three, I'm good with Katie winning again.

Seems like there were a lot of TS.  Ones I got include vodka, aircraft carrier, gin, second base, Beau Brummel, Plymouth Rock, Omar Khayyam, and the walrus. 

I guess Savannah did an okay job, but I'm afraid her voice and vocal fry are going to be problematic for me.  

 

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57 minutes ago, ErinV said:

2 minutes in…nope, Savannah’s voice is going to be an issue 😬

3 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

I'm afraid her voice and vocal fry are going to be problematic for me

I'm usually very picky about voices, and I didn't have a problem with Savannah Guthrie's. I didn't notice any vocal fry.
Maybe I was more sleep deprived that I thought? We'll see (I'll be listening) tomorrow and following. 
I liked her compassionate inflections when she had to tell the contestants they were wrong.

I was distracted during the first round.
In DJ I got the TSs of Plymouth, Walrus, and Omar Khayyam, all of which I think at least one of the contestants should have known too. 

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12 minutes ago, Browncoat said:

Ones I got include vodka, aircraft carrier, gin, second base, Beau Brummel, Plymouth Rock, Omar Khayyam, and the walrus. 

I got all of those.  Did not get FJ, however.

I'm fine with Savannah Guthrie.  I don't notice anything wrong with her voice.

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I pretty much liked Savannah except for her "you got it" comments for correct answers.  She kept the game moving and didn't bring too much focus back to herself.

I thought the clue for FJ really did not fit "Monroe Doctrine."

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WAY too many triple stumpers tonight on clues I thought were relatively easy. 

As a lifelong baseball fan, it broke my heart that no one knew that the old "neighborhood" play involved second base. It's sad to me that baseball clues in general on Jeopardy! have gone unanswered lately. So much for "America's Pastime." 😔

Could someone please show me a map labeling that particular body of water as the "Gulf of Persia?" I think I'll be waiting for quite a while.

 

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2 minutes ago, seacliffsal said:

I pretty much liked Savannah except for her "you got it" comments for correct answers.  

Yeah, that was the only thing that bugged me a little, but I kind of forgot about it by the time I was posting.

5 minutes ago, ProudMary said:

Could someone please show me a map labeling that particular body of water as the "Gulf of Persia?" I think I'll be waiting for quite a while.

https://www.heritagecharts.com/mapchart.php/393/22/the_gulf_of_persia

(from 1805)

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4 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

Yeah, that was the only thing that bugged me a little, but I kind of forgot about it by the time I was posting.

https://www.heritagecharts.com/mapchart.php/393/22/the_gulf_of_persia

(from 1805)

Guess I'll have to eat my hat on that one, but I think its present-day name should have been required. 

As for Savannah Guthrie, I've never cared for her and was fully expecting to be annoyed by her performance, but she completely surprised me. I thought she did a very good job.

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I was so pleased to see the Mobituaries category! I’ve listened to several of the podcasts, and I’m currently reading the book. And I knew some of the answers because of that!

I hope Ms. Guthrie reduces the use of “you got it;” otherwise I thought she did OK. I hadn’t commented on Mayim Bialik, but I thought she did well overall.

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I definitely thought the definition they gave for FJ 100% described laissez-faire, which I answered before they finished reading the clue and with complete certainty 🙄

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2 hours ago, proserpina65 said:

Oh, for fuck's sake, now I have to put up with Katie for another damned game, damn it.

Why? I didn't find anything particularly annoying about her, though sooner or later her low FJ wagers will probably cause her to lose.

I got vodka, masks, Plymouth, Omar Khayyam, the Walrus, Dag Hammarsjkold, and Beau Brummel. The latter name is embedded in my brain thanks to Billy Joel's "It's Still Rock and Roll to Me:"

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How about a pair of pink sidewinders and a bright orange pair of pants?

You could really be a Beau Brummel, baby, if you just give it half a chance.

 

I didn't mind Savannah's voice. I'd never heard of Mo Rocca, though, and thought his clues were much too wordy.

I also said "laissez faire" on FJ. 😖

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2 hours ago, Roaster said:

For FJ, I thought of Monroe Doctrine - two-word Nineteenth Century foreign policy - but the definition - to leave the parties to themselves in the hope others will do the same - is not exactly what I remember from school.

Also it was not actually what the us does or has ever done.  But I knew FJ. Vodka (pretty obvious, Russia) Omar khayyam I also got. 

 

Beau brummell!!!  Thanks Billy Joel

 

 

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23 minutes ago, GreekGeek said:

I didn't mind Savannah's voice. I'd never heard of Mo Rocca, though, and thought his clues were much too wordy.

He is rather wordy...

He's a frequent panelist on Wait, Wait...Don't Tell Me and when he gets stuck on a question he can get a little....frustrating. I like him, though. (I originally knew him from The Daily Show.)

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