RuPaul’s Drag Race: Vegas Revue

[MsJamieDornan]

3 hours ago, phoenix780 said:

if this is all semi scripted or amped up for TV, they cast the wrong people to pull it off. It's not even a good commercial for the Vegas show. 

It's scripted. I think they were all given a part to play and they are doing their best, which really isnt very good.

And who in the world would let them film a break up with someone you really cared about? Come on..

[ElectricBoogaloo]

In theory, I agree with what Naomi said about addressing problems with other people is the mature thing to do. But it's a bit much for her to say that when you remember what we saw her do in the previous episode. She asked a shit stirring question, got an answer she didn't like from Asia, and then ran off to bitch about it to Derrick (her alleged enemy until she got her fee fees hurt by someone else). She claims that when someone has an issue with her, she tries to fix it and that Asia isn't capable of doing that but Asia naming her as the weakest coworker was based on the fact that she does things like leaves rehearsal to get her nails done and shows up late for unimportant events like opening night. Naomi's attitude was basically IDGAF which is the opposite of trying to address a problem.

Similarly, yes, it was a little immature for Asia to refuse to respond when Derrick went downstairs to her new makeshift dressing room but I just cannot with Derrick trying to act all condescending about it, claiming that Asia was being immature, and saying, "How hard is it to have a mature conversation?" when he's been nothing but an immature shit stirrer all season.

I was already getting an awkward/distant vibe from Andre as soon as he arrived so I was just waiting for him to drop some kind of bombshell, which is why the breakup wasn't a surprise to me. I just thought it was weird that he was trying to act like everything was fine for so long. Like I get that you don't want to get off a plane, get into a car, and break up with them before you've even gotten to the house but still.

Part of me wants to give Andre credit for flying across the country to have the breakup conversation in person because, as he pointed out, is it preferable to have that conversation on the phone or via text? Whenever people don't break up in person, I think of Carrie getting dumped via post it note on SATC.

But based on the interviews that Kameron did earlier in the season about how Andre didn't want to put a label on their relationship and this episode where he said taking Andre to Paris (the hotel) during the day might be okay since it's not as romantic as it is at night made  it clear that Kameron was way more into Andre (especially when Kameron said that he has flown to New York to see Andre but that this was Andre's first time coming to visit him).

You shouldn't have to worry about whether your boyfriend is going to think that a fucking casino is too romantic and therefore freak out. Sure, he was joking (kind of) when he said that, but he made it clear that he has been trying not to scare off Andre by being too romantic or asking for too much of a commitment which was already a huge red flag. If you can't be honest with your non-labeled sex partner, then what's the point?

In theory, I understand Andre not wanting to be in a long distance relationship. I've done it more than once and it takes a lot of effort. But I got the vibe that it was more that he didn't want to be faithful to someone that he only sees once a month.

Edited September 12, 2020 by ElectricBoogaloo

[ElectricBoogaloo]

I was cracking up when Naomi said she was making eggs and Derrick said, "You cook?" Chile, I was cooking eggs for myself when I was in elementary school. Seriously, you just crack the eggs in a pan and don't let them burn.

I was glad that Vanjie pointed out that Derrick was the one who turned a fun game of truth or dare into let's try to instigate another fight. There was no reason to go from toe sucking and lap dances to bringing up what Derrick heard secondhand. I was super annoyed when Naomi later said she was glad that Derrick brought it up because it needs to be addressed. Bitch, if you want it addressed then bring it up yourself instead of passive aggressively letting your former nemesis do it for you. No one was stopping Naomi from going to Asia and discussing this issue one on one. Instead she chose to run to Derrick and whine about it.

As Kameron very maturely and logically pointed out, bringing this up in front of ALL the queens as well as the backup dancers was not the time or place to have this discussion. And Kameron was again correct when he pointed out that Derrick did the same thing at his party. For Derrick to be acting so above it all and calling Asia immature, Derrick has been nothing but immature this entire season. For Derrick to have such a revisionist history and say that bringing up that old shit with Naomi at his party ended up bringing them to a better place is straight up bull shit. He and Naomi were still fueding about it until Asia said that Naomi was the weakest team member and then Naomi went running to Derrick. If not for that, I'm sure that Naomi and Derrick would STILL be fighting about that old garbage from years ago.

Derrick has that classic immature high school mentality AND he's an attention whore, which was really obvious when Kameron said that he is non confrontational and got through his season without any major fights or hurting people's feelings and Derrick's response was "and barely any dialogue." Not everyone goes on RPDR to hog the spotlight.

Even if I hadn't seen Derrick in previous seasons of RPDR or AS, I would think he was an asshole based just on this season. Every time there's a confrontation, he talks over whoever is trying to talk and interrupts them which are both huge pet peeves of mine. Overtalkers are selfish assholes and when I was younger, I just put up with it. Now I start out with a stink eye and follow that up with "CAN I FINISH WHAT I'M SAYING?"

It made me sad that Kameron avoids confrontation SO MUCH that he apologized to Derrick for "yelling at him." First of all, he wasn't yelling. He didn't raise his voice. Secondly, everything he said was true.

Part of me thinks that it was immature of Asia to just take all her stuff downstairs, but it also showed me that she was serious enough to go up and down the stairs a million times with all of her stuff. This really shows the difference between Asia and Naomi though. Asia made a change so that she would not be in a room where she felt unwanted. When Naomi was bitching about how loud Asia is, she wasn't actually trying to fix anything. She was just gossiping and talking shit to other people (which is contrary to her "we should just be mature and talk about what's bothering us" BS). She could have said, "Look, Asia, I know you have a lot of things you need the crew to fix/check before the show but could you not do that in the dressing room where we are trying to be calm and get ready for the show?" Instead, she didn't say anything to Asia and just complained about how loud Asia is to anyone but Asia. I mean, I get wanting a quiet space before a performance (and listening to someone yell at the crew before each show is not relaxing), but Naomi didn't actually try to address the issue at all.

As for Derrick and Naomi continuing to claim that they were the ones being mature and that Asia was the one being immature, their glee at her moving downstairs contradicts that. Naomi spread all her stuff out so that even if Asia wanted to come back, it would require her to ask Naomi to move her stuff back. Derrick flat out said that he wanted Asia to stay downstairs because he was having fun without her. Of course, then he also tried to play the sympathy card by saying that Asia didn't look at him at this ONE MOMENT when they were onstage and how this was affecting the show. STFU.

I was totally cracking up when Randy the producer said that they were going to move Asia to her own room upstairs because I KNEW that Naomi and Derrick were going to be so pissed that Asia managed to score a private dressing room. Never mind the fact that Naomi has 2/3 of a dressing room now.

While I totally get what Asia was saying that he and his fiance are who they are as people, not what they do as a living (which I fully support because sometimes people get so wrapped up in  the image of being <insert profession here>), but not telling him about all the drama going on? My very biased opinion is that your fiance should be your best friend, your confidante, and your #1 supporter in every way. How is Brett supposed to do that if Asia won't even tell her what's going on backstage (let alone about her crazy family)?

I understand that sometimes you just don't want to rehash all the drama, but to say that everything is fine in the midst of fighting with Naomi and changing dressing rooms multiple times? That's just lying. It's okay to say, "I don't want to get into it, but these bitches are driving me crazy and I'm a little stressed out."

Between this and what Asia said about being abruptly sent away by her parents, it sounds like she feels like she has to present a perfect image to Brett because she's afraid that if she shows any flaws, he will leave. As with Kameron, this is not the way you should be around your significant other. If you can't be honest with them, then what's the point? Who ARE you being honest with if not your significant other? Asia could be getting emotional support from Brett and instead she's keeping this all to herself, which just seems sad to me.

[DrSparkles]

Naomi, as SLJ said i  Pulp Fiction: “If my answers frighten you, you should cease asking scary questions.”

I saw that breakup coming from a mole away, what a turd 😢.

[ElectricBoogaloo]

6 hours ago, DrSparkles said:

Naomi, as SLJ said i  Pulp Fiction: “If my answers frighten you, you should cease asking scary questions.”

Or as Atticus Finch taught Scout from the time she was a baby: "Never, never, never, on cross-examination ask a witness a question you don’t already know the answer to."

[joanne3482]

On 9/13/2020 at 8:03 AM, DrSparkles said:

I saw that breakup coming from a mole away, what a turd 😢.

I automatically thought he was cheating and going to confess to that, so I guess a clean break up was betterish. 

On 9/12/2020 at 6:18 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:

But based on the interviews that Kameron did earlier in the season about how Andre didn't want to put a label on their relationship and this episode where he said taking Andre to Paris (the hotel) during the day might be okay since it's not as romantic as it is at night made  it clear that Kameron was way more into Andre (especially when Kameron said that he has flown to New York to see Andre but that this was Andre's first time coming to visit him).

I agree, I noticed that anytime Kameron said something about Andre coming out to visit again in the future, Andrew was very non-committal.  I felt a little sad for Kameron when he was talking about how he can sometimes be too much. As I told a friend of mine, who is now happily married, you shouldn't find a person who tolerates your quirks, or loves you in spite of them. You should find someone who embraces and celebrates them. 

I never saw Derrick on his first season. I did see him on AllStars but he was out so quickly I felt kind of bad for him.  This show makes me take that whole view back. He's so manipulative. He knows exactly what he's doing and then playing the victim. So annoying. 

I couldn't help but wonder if when Asia was talking about getting sent away at 11, if she was sent to one of those 'conversion' camps. I can't imagine being a kid and being 'sent away' when you thought everything was just dandy. 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

1 hour ago, joanne3482 said:

I couldn't help but wonder if when Asia was talking about getting sent away at 11, if she was sent to one of those 'conversion' camps. I can't imagine being a kid and being 'sent away' when you thought everything was just dandy. 

I don't remember all the details but in a previous episode (I think it was the season premiere when Asia, Naomi, and Kameron were at the gym), Asia mentioned her mom was sick for a long time before she died and her dad had addiction issues, so I thought that maybe she was alluding to being sent to temporarily live with a relative because her parents couldn't handle taking care of ten kids in the midst of all that.

Asia clearly has a hard time opening up about her family and her past so I'm a little bit encouraged that she's been sharing tiny bits and pieces throughout the season. I hope she realizes that she doesn't have to be ashamed about that stuff. Whatever her family did is not her fault. She was a child and she was not responsible for what they did.

[Pj3422]

Jeez, this has devolved into a drag version of Real Housewives. 

[loki310]

Kameron is a beautiful man. I would totally be his boyfriend if I were a boy. I don’t know if it’s a showmance, but I think  him and Vanji would make a good couple - he likes people who make him laugh and they both like romantic stuff. 
 

I agree with many of you about Naomi and Derrick.  And Kameron imo had the line of the episode...

 

paraphrasing

Kameron: You brought it up in front of all the queens and the dancers!

Derrick: It had to come out... where would you suggest?

Kameron: How about the hallway?!

🤣🤣🤣 Guuuuuuurrrrrrl 🤣🤣🤣

[Stardancer Supreme]

5 hours ago, loki310 said:

Kameron is a beautiful man. I would totally be his boyfriend if I were a boy. I don’t know if it’s a showmance, but I think  him and Vanji would make a good couple - he likes people who make him laugh and they both like romantic stuff. 
 

I agree with many of you about Naomi and Derrick.  And Kameron imo had the line of the episode...

 

paraphrasing

Kameron: You brought it up in front of all the queens and the dancers!

Derrick: It had to come out... where would you suggest?

Kameron: How about the hallway?!

🤣🤣🤣 Guuuuuuurrrrrrl 🤣🤣🤣

Here's the thing; it didn't have to come out, Derrick.  You were looking for an excuse to get back at Asia for cussing Nebraska at the casino.  That tiff between Naomi and Asia had nothing to do with him at all.  I hate that Kameron apologized for telling the truth.

 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

1 hour ago, Stardancer Supreme said:

Here's the thing; it didn't have to come out, Derrick.  You were looking for an excuse to get back at Asia for cussing Nebraska at the casino.  That tiff between Naomi and Asia had nothing to do with him at all.  I hate that Kameron apologized for telling the truth.

I wish I could like the comment at least ten more times.

[futurechemist]

For those who (like me) wish this show focused more on the drag performance aspects, I highly recomnend the Drag Race UK series God Shave the Queens. It's more lighthearted, less overly produced, and practically no emphasis on artificial drama.

[Ananayel]

From the preview: Man, Silky's "Kameron has a disqualifier" on the phone to Vanjie had better just be that she doesn't know Kameron and Andre split. Because otherwise, it's confirmed - Silky ruins everything.

And I'm less hard on Asia know, knowing more of her history.

Edited September 19, 2020 by Ananayel

[Stardancer Supreme]

Episode 5:

I love Vanjie and his mother! She's awesome.

Asia, hon. You first need to hire a wedding planner, stat!  That way you won't have the pressure and stress of the wedding on your shoulders.

I'm so sick of Derrick.  He just met Vanjie's mother and felt compelled to spill tea about that disastrous night at Charley's!  This mofo can't hold water. He talks too damn much.

Naomi still seems to be bothered by Asia not being around them. I would like for Naomi to shut her piehole. My dislike of her is rising.  She says that she doesn't care that Asia is not in the dressing room, yet also says that Asia needs to be a grown man about the situation. Shut up. Asia handled the situation by removing herself from your presence. What more can Naomi possibly want? She needs to apologize to Asia for real.

So Kameron and Vanjie decided to try things out.  Cute! I wonder what the disqualifier from Silky is next week. 

[MsJamieDornan]

18 hours ago, futurechemist said:

For those who (like me) wish this show focused more on the drag performance aspects, I highly recomnend the Drag Race UK series God Shave the Queens. It's more lighthearted, less overly produced, and practically no emphasis on artificial drama.

It was a lot of fun !

[Diane Mars]

On 9/19/2020 at 5:23 AM, futurechemist said:

For those who (like me) wish this show focused more on the drag performance aspects, I highly recomnend the Drag Race UK series God Shave the Queens. It's more lighthearted, less overly produced, and practically no emphasis on artificial drama.

Ho yes ! Thank you for the reminder ! Just watched the two available ep and... I like so much the genuine interactions and vibe between all of them ❤️ And it's nice to see Alyssa in that supportive spirit, like in "Dancing Queen". I'm really enjoying it ! So lighthearted !

[ElectricBoogaloo]

On 9/18/2020 at 8:23 PM, futurechemist said:

For those who (like me) wish this show focused more on the drag performance aspects, I highly recomnend the Drag Race UK series God Shave the Queens. It's more lighthearted, less overly produced, and practically no emphasis on artificial drama.

 

On 9/19/2020 at 2:56 PM, MsJamieDornan said:

It was a lot of fun !

 

9 hours ago, Diane Mars said:

Ho yes ! Thank you for the reminder ! Just watched the two available ep and... I like so much the genuine interactions and vibe between all of them ❤️ And it's nice to see Alyssa in that supportive spirit, like in "Dancing Queen". I'm really enjoying it ! So lighthearted !

FYI - we have a thread for God Shave the Queens!

[ElectricBoogaloo]

Every time the other queens bring up Asia, I just roll my eyes. Asia removed herself from the situation and now Naomi and Derrick are annoyed that Asia's absence means no more drama.  They just can't stop talking about it.

Oh, Asia. Being in a relationship doesn't mean only presenting an edited shiny version of yourself. I get doing that in the beginning because you don't need to dump a lifetime of emotional baggage on someone on your first date. But Asia has been dating Brett for THREE YEARS and they're getting married. It's time to start communicating about the less than perfect aspects of yourself, your family, your past, etc.

I mentioned after a previous episode that it sounds like his family history has made him afraid that people will abandon you at any moment, which I'm guessing is why he's choosing to hold so much back. I wish someone would tell him that if Brett really loves him, then he will not run away if he finds out that Asia's family has addiction problems or Asia is fighting with girls in the show. No, you're not the same person you were when you were five years old, but what happened to you then has an impact on who you become.

Brett seems like a very sweet, understanding, and supportive person so I don't think that he's going to run away if Asia opens up and shares her feelings.

Coco's theory on makeup was hilarious.

The most I have ever liked Derrick was when he was trying on wigs.

[RoxiP]

For those of you who might watch 90 Day Fiance - did anybody else think when they saw Brett that it was Russ (of Russ and Paola)?  Or at least Russ's younger, hotter brother?

[theatremouse]

11 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

The most I have ever liked Derrick was when he was trying on wigs.

It was really bizarre watching that for me because in allllll his other appearances, he's given me the solid impression he cannot play a character to save his life, unless that character is Brittney. Yet here he was, hamming it up. It was the closest I've ever come to liking Derrick, but I'm still too annoyed at him for all his shenanigans to actually like him, even for 30 seconds. My mind is kind of blown though...like dude, you're capable of being funny, why did you...never do that before on TV?

[ElectricBoogaloo]

6 hours ago, theatremouse said:

It was really bizarre watching that for me because in allllll his other appearances, he's given me the solid impression he cannot play a character to save his life, unless that character is Brittney. Yet here he was, hamming it up. It was the closest I've ever come to liking Derrick, but I'm still too annoyed at him for all his shenanigans to actually like him, even for 30 seconds. My mind is kind of blown though...like dude, you're capable of being funny, why did you...never do that before on TV?

That was pretty much my reaction too. He never tried to do anything that wasn't Britney-adjacent during his original season and he was terrible in the acting challenges so I was shocked that he managed to do some non-Britney characters that were mildly funny. Like where was that before this very moment? I was doubly surprised since the only thing he's done this season is shit stir at every opportunity. I was like wait, you're taking a break from creating ~drama~ to be kind of amusing?

[Vermicious Knid]

Coming back in January? I am not optimistic. CES went virtual which already resulted in a cascade of other cancellations. Rio has cancelled Carnival which is in February. One major Strip production has closed permanently. Four local casinos have been mothballed for at least a year, included the Palms. The Palms!! And none of the hotel casinos on the Strip have announced even tentative plans to reopen any show, big or small.

Derrick is quite the shit stirrer, isn't he?

[AdorkableWitch]

This show has only made one really good impression on me - that Yvie is an incredibly driven and talented performer who I think will go far.

[Stardancer Supreme]

Episode 6:

I still don't like Derrick Barry.  How ironic that his last performance in the show was "Toxic".  Asia is far better than me because I would never have talked to Derrick again.  Naomi in the corner of the Zoom looking stupid after Asia buried the hatchet with Derrick for the sake of peace.

I agreed with Silky telling Vanjie not to kai kai with Ru Girls anymore.  I cackled when their landlord made them move in together to keep the noise down.  That date with Kameron looked really painful.

I also think that the show won't be back in January 2021.

[Gothish520]

I wasn't a Kameron fan before this show but I am now, so I guess that's one positive thing lol. I also love Vanjie even more. Too bad things didn't work out with them, but I'm glad there were no hard feelings. 

Derrick is quite the troublemaker but for some reason I don't dislike him. I understand Asia's frustration but girl was definitely a negative presence in the dressing room. 

This was worth it just to see Vanjie and gain a new appreciation for Kameron.

[Red Bridey]

I came away seriously disliking three of the six girls in the show; not a result Ru was expecting, I am sure. During the regular show, I had no strong opinions pro or con regarding Derrick, Asia or Naomi. Now I would cross the street to avoid those Drama Queens. I wasn't crazy about Vanji or Kameron during their seasons, so color me surprised that I actually liked their attempts to find true love separate from their fans and fame. Jose seems like a very nice man. Kameron is sweet and shy, and I hope they both find someone who can make them laugh and keep up the conversation. I was extremely tired of Asia by show's end. Get over yourself, snowflake. Yes, Naomi and Derrick were bitches, but call them on their shit and defend yourself. The most annoying thing is you were right but you handled it all wrong. Oh, and Yvie is a treasure. I love that big goofy guy. 

[ElectricBoogaloo]

The more we saw of Derrick, the less I liked him. I wasn't a fan after his original season and he was on All Stars so briefly that I didn't have time to form a new opinion, but I came into this show with an open mind because people change. Sometimes people who I didn't particularly like on their original season came into All Stars and totally changed my mind.

Not so with Derrick though. He has done nothing all season but shit stir at every possible opportunity. The fact that he was saying Asia wouldn't take responsibility for his actions when he (Derrick) refuses to take ANY responsibility for any of the many instances of unnecessary drama this season really made me dislike him. And I could not believe when he had the nerve to say he was tired of talking about Asia. Bitch, please. You live to complain about people and dredge up as much drama as possible.

But even more disappointing was that clip of him performing in the show. His Britney impression is average. I knew girls in college who taught themselves her iconic choreography by watching the videos repeatedly and could perform them with more sass and snap than Derrick did in that clip.

I just rolled my eyes when Derrick said that if you can spend every day together while you're in quarantine, that says a lot about your relationship. I am of the opinion that if you can't spend all day together then maybe you need to reexamine your relationship. I know some people love being in relationships with firefighters and people in the military so that they don't have to spend all their time together, but I wouldn't want to be with someone who I don't want to be with all the time.

It made me sad that Jamal was putting all the blame for the situation on Asia. Yes, she chose to move out of her dressing room but what about Naomi and Derrick being the assholes who created that situation? Naomi was full of it too. She just sat there while Asia apologized.

Vanjie and Kameron's date was so awkward, but I'm glad that they found out sooner rather than later. It's fine too. As Yvie very wisely pointed out, just because you're both looking for love doesn't mean you're going to find it with each other.

I can't believe that Derrick thought their coronavirus hiatus was only going to last two weeks. Seriously? I mean, he knew that Broadway had shut down while they were still doing the show so he must have some news source in his life. Did he not see how serious this was in other countries before it arrived in the United States?

I am glad that the show addressed the pandemic and BLM because it would be really selective to ignore such huge issues happening during the course of the show, and racism is something that some of the queens have discussed encountering from RPDR fans at shows, conventions, etc.

I'm definitely not saying that this pandemic is good because obviously it's not, but I'm glad that Vanjie and Asia both found out they have high blood pressure as a result of getting tested for COVID. That is a treatable medical condition but you can't treat it if you don't know that you have it.

I want to give Derrick the benefit of the doubt because I think some people have had some major realizations while quarantined for months, but given what we've seen on this show I have my reservations. Hahaha, but I loved Vanjie's reaction to it.

I think January is a bit optimistic for any live indoor show, but I guess we'll see. A few months ago, the ballet sent out their season schedule for 2021 and they think they're starting in January too (they have a lot more restrictions because they have to share their performance space with the opera, but still). When I saw that, I thought welp, I hope you wrote that in pencil because you're probably going to have to scrap some of those shows.

After watching this season, I ended up liking Yvie even more than I already did!

[MsJamieDornan]

4 hours ago, Red Bridey said:

I came away seriously disliking three of the six girls in the show;

I came away seriously disliking Ru.

[RoxiP]

Don't care for Derrick and she isn't even a passable Brittany impersonator.  Loved Yvie from the start (my first season of watching Drag Race) and still do - liked how for the most part she stayed out of the drama and that laugh...I could listen to that all day.  She also got a really good edit - pays to be a winner doesn't it?

Not a fan of Naomi but oh she is beautiful.  Love Vanjie, like Kameron (although she is boring), I thought Asia was way too much of a drama queen, and still think this show was bent in entirely the wrong direction.

Never wanted to go to Vegas but I would go to see the show.