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8 hours ago, Colfrmb said:

@Quof, You are right that there have been many scenes where the baby is missing and I assume the Grandma Andrei is caring for her.  She’s just so cute, I don’t think I could take my hands off her.

At the casino/wedding venue, Ellie stayed outside in the car with Andrei’s father while they met with the wedding coordinator. Remember Libby wanted them LOCKED in the car? 

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22 hours ago, Safadao said:

Michael deserves everything coming to him:

1. the constant yelling and berating

2. the “you can’t ever look at another woman” yelling

3. the putrid smell of cigarettes when Angela sticks her tongue in his mouth

4.  his spine getting crushed whenever she is on top

5. the aroma of old sweat that was trapped between all the skin folds - especially when her breasts are lifted up

6. the constant manipulation and shaming and controlling

 

he deserves it all because he is a 100% free man to make his own decisions and he made them 
 

I have not one bit of sympathy for this loser of a man. He is not a victim. 

So much this.  My Grams had a saying “glutton for punishment” that fits Mikhal to a tee.  He’s a grown ass 100% free man and each time I watch I say he can get out of this if he wants to.  He is not an indentured servant yet, but he will be if he comes to America with gangela.  He is going to dearly pay for that passage to America.  And he is aware cuz Gangela is showing him exactly who she is and in front of the cameras, no less.  I didn’t see the whole segment cuz I get so enraged being a witness to her loud abuse that I FF thru.  I try to tell myself he’s not my family or my friend, so why do I care.  I guess becuz he’s a human being who for some reason won’t take himself out of the situation.  So I have to take myself out by FF thru their segments and any other segments that bring my blood pressure up. LOL.   Coming on here and seeing you guys have the same issues that I have, does my heart good.  

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18 hours ago, 2dogmom said:

people with plastic dresser drawers do not get 30k worth of plastic surgery. I know it is all scripted, but just so ridiculous and unbelievable.

does Eric have a legit job? 

I KNOW! Those plastic drawers and the closet full of saggy plastic hangers, the empty hangers interspersed with the full ones gave me anxiety, messy and cheap. Larissa must have amnesia about her having children or maybe she is trying to make herself unrecognizable to them.

She wanted a nose job, boob job and some sort of ass job but has no plans to get a real job, interesting.

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So much this.  My Grams had a saying “glutton for punishment” that fits Mikhal to a tee.  He’s a grown ass 100% free man and each time I watch I say he can get out of this if he wants to.  He is not an indentured servant yet, but he will be if he comes to America with gangela.  He is going to dearly pay for that passage to America.  

Angela is awful but honest. What you see is what you're getting. She hasn't changed at all since day 1. Michael knows exactly what he is signing up for. If he goes for it, he gets no sympathy.

I give the eventual marriage less than a year.

 

 

 

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I hate the way Angela treats Michael.      She shouldn't be allowed to import a person who will be abused, and turned into her personal baby sitter, and housekeeper.   She's so vicious on camera, it makes me wonder what else happens off camera.    She was totally out of control for the past few weeks, and she is scary when she's angry.    

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The only way this Michael & Angela horror show ends well is that (A) Michael comes to his senses or (B) we find out in a plot twist that Michael has found another woman to tote his baby and treat him like an actual human being and when Angela finds out she loses it and ends up in a Nigerian prison.  And everybody lives happily ever after.  Including us, for never having to lay eyes on Angela ever again.  The End.

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1 hour ago, Cementhead said:

The only way this Michael & Angela horror show ends well is that (A) Michael comes to his senses or (B) we find out in a plot twist that Michael has found another woman to tote his baby and treat him like an actual human being and when Angela finds out she loses it and ends up in a Nigerian prison.  And everybody lives happily ever after.  Including us, for never having to lay eyes on Angela ever again.  The End.

I keep expecting her to have a coronary or stroke when she is raging.  Morbidly obese and a smoker.  Not smart to get all worked up like that.  

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23 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

Keep your filthy eyes off my man, hussy!

I don't think it was jealousy, I think she wanted the interpretor to know that she was in charge, she hired her, NOT Michael, even though he's the man.

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58 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

I keep expecting her to have a coronary or stroke when she is raging.  Morbidly obese and a smoker.  Not smart to get all worked up like that.  

A person can hope, I guess?

Michael and Angela have to be fake, at least the sex part. There is no way a man could naturally get an erection around her. You would probably die of a Viagra overdose trying to achieve one? She is absolutely repulsive to the core!

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Miner said:

Michael and Angela have to be fake, at least the sex part. There is no way a man could naturally get an erection around her.

Maybe that's why she brought the penis warmer?  Poor Michael's penis. 

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Kind of interesting that back in the season of Baby Girl Lisa, so many opined that she was even worse than Angela.  Angela seemed to have become a charming, loving grandmother who happened to fall in love with a man in Nigeria.  It was an odd pairing, but not worse than amusing.

Suddenly, Angela has come back onto the show and proven that there are at least TWO middle-aged women in America who are disgusting in their behaviors, especially towards their proposed mate from another country.  Neither has to be judged worse.  They are both horrible.  

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On 8/24/2020 at 11:15 AM, BravoAddict72 said:

I live in a border town so they play the Canadian anthem as well as the American anthem at all our hockey games. I know the Canadian one as well as are own lol. 

And that's a really lovely thing, isn't it?! I remember years ago being overseas during one of the Winter Olympics, it was the one where the Canadian couple were killing it in ice skating pairs I think. Anyway, I met a Canadian at the hotel I was staying at, and I got very excited about the skating competition and asked her if she's staying up late watching and how much I was rooting for Canada to win the gold medal. She was completely taken aback and said, "I thought American's only rooted for American athletes", and I told her no, not all of us. But yeah, that's the stellar 'Murica #1 rep we have around the world, and even to your sane and lovely neighbors to the north.

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4 hours ago, Kellyee said:

Angela is awful but honest. What you see is what you're getting. She hasn't changed at all since day 1. Michael knows exactly what he is signing up for. If he goes for it, he gets no sympathy.

I give the eventual marriage less than a year.

 

 

 

I don't care if Angela's honest, she's a horrible person.  

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This week’s ep had the usual drama as always...

Coltee and Jessee and Debbieee: I think Colt should tell Jess before she makes that long trip to Vegas. It's not going to end well. He is such a manipulator. He loves her but he has an ex with benefits living in his house and has spoken to many others while they were mad at each other. He seems to be a sex or romance addict. He can't be by himself or take the time to get to know someone before he's in love and willing to do a K1 for someone. After Jess he was serious about this Mexican fitness trainer who was gorgeous. Then he was back with Vanessa. What do all these women see in him? If he could not provide a green card or if he was not on TV he'd be lonely.

If I knew moving in would cause problems in my ‘friends’ relationship, then I would find somewhere else to live. Debbie, Vanessa, and Colt knew what they were doing. I think it was all planned. How else does Colt think Jess is going to take it? I think he just started to date her to be on this season, and used her to introduce Vanessa more into the show. I think they just want their own show following their lives. 

 

Larissa-ee and Ericee: To be honest, I find this storyline scripted and boring. Like they both are bad actors. They are just on the show to be famous.

Anyway, there is no way Larissa is gonna pay that money back. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Like, how could she! She doesn’t even have a job! She only  stayed with him so he could pay for her boobs.

She's so conniving and superficial. She just wants to use these guys for her own benefits, and having tons of plastic surgeries is her idea of the American. She is trying to persuade  Ericee to get money for boobs and butts and if he can't pay, she will move to another man, but she may end up in jail or deported.

And Ericee is a fool if he gives her the money to do all the stupid crap she wants done....I wonder if her dad ever watches the shows, because I would be pissed if I was raising my son or daughters’ kids and they were using my money and other people's money for plastic surgery. 😡 He will never see the money again,  I hope he’s not that stupid.

And she clearly has no intention of ever caring for her children. But she will surely want them to “understand and forgive her” in 20 years when SHE needs THEM. What a loser. She needs to go back to Brazil. 

 

Syringe and The Bossy Tania: After watching the episode, I think both of them are crazy. Syngin had a hard time before he left South Africa. I feel like he is recovering from that but also ignoring his responsibilities to himself. He is waiting for the perfect job where he can make money, drink as much as he wants and be as obnoxious as needed. Tania’s a nag. What’s she doing? Their fight was annoying. She meant to hurt him which is a very bad sign. Plus she wants him to grow up but I don’t think she’s got her s*** together.

 

Grangela and Maackle: I’m not surprised that Michael’s mother gave him and Angela blessings. She loves her son. She knows Angela is too old to have another child. She just wants Michael to be happy. She supports her son! 

It seems like no matter how weird the potential spouse is, the parents are always happy to marry off their kids so they can go to American and be rich and send money home.  Right?

And every week as always, Angela emotionally abuses Michael.

2 hours ago, AZChristian said:

Kind of interesting that back in the season of Baby Girl Lisa, so many opined that she was even worse than Angela.  Angela seemed to have become a charming, loving grandmother who happened to fall in love with a man in Nigeria.  It was an odd pairing, but not worse than amusing.

Suddenly, Angela has come back onto the show and proven that there are at least TWO middle-aged women in America who are disgusting in their behaviors, especially towards their proposed mate from another country.  Neither has to be judged worse.  They are both horrible.  

I had that feeling too when watching Before the 90 Days! Baby Girl Lisa’s disgusting habits and constant demanding things from Usman and calling him a slur made me forget all about Angela’s physical and enormous abuse and yelling at Michael all the time. 

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6 hours ago, Mr. Miner said:

Michael and Angela have to be fake, at least the sex part. There is no way a man could naturally get an erection around her. You would probably die of a Viagra overdose trying to achieve one? She is absolutely repulsive to the core!

I would never argue on that point (I'm a woman); HOWEVER, I sincerely believe (hard for a person to fathom) that in some perverse way michael does find angela attractive (I'm trying not to become physically ill when writing that remark but that's what I believe.)

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22 minutes ago, pdlinda said:

I would never argue on that point (I'm a woman); HOWEVER, I sincerely believe (hard for a person to fathom) that in some perverse way michael does find angela attractive (I'm trying not to become physically ill when writing that remark but that's what I believe.)

He may have a bestiality fetish and the water buffalo won’t cooperate.  Next best thing.

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Plastic Surgeon: These implants are far too big, you're going to look like a circus freak.

Larisa: Yes, yes, I want to look like cheap blow up sex doll.

Plastic Surgeon: Oh, well as long as we are on the same page.

 

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On 8/24/2020 at 8:33 PM, DanaMB said:

I despise everyone in this show. I’m getting ready to stop watching. 
 

Libby’s family is AWFUL. They are enraging. If they have a spin off I will NEVER watch it. 
 

Please tell me they’re all getting dragged on social media for being ugly Americans and just awful people. 

Family Libby *are* disgusting, more disgusting because they seem to think they are so cool.  Chuckie Jr.'s haircut belongs on a professional wrestler.

But the problem is that from the beginning Andale has put himself in their power by refusing to become self-supporting.  He has taken everything Chuckie has offered and asked for (or had Libby ask for) anything else he needed, or wanted.  I despise Family Libby maybe more than anyone else this season, but until Andale stops taking (and demanding via Libby) money and other things of value from them, he has no business getting all shirty with them.  I understand how hard it must be to restrain himself when they bait him that way, but they've kind of earned the right (or bought the right) to act shitty toward him because he owes them so much.  If he wants to assert himself, he needs to announce that he's not accepting their support for anything any longer, grow up, and take care of business like a grownup.  Only then can he tell them that things are none of their business.

OTOH I believe Family Libby (maybe not Mom), including Libby, are being coached to irritate Andale as much as they can, and they are gleefully complying.  I think Libby's in on it and not allowed to tell Andale; that's why she's so exhausted by it all, yet can't defend her husband as she should.

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On 8/24/2020 at 9:55 PM, RealReality said:

I don't get Angela at all.  

Clearly, when they get to America things between she and Michael will be however she wants it because she is the one who holds all the power.  

So, why doesn't she just smile, nod and agree with everyone in Nigeria.  The ONLY person who has to be convinced that Angela will be in charge in the US is Michael.  Why does she keep going off in front of people who do not matter.  Aunt Lydia isn't going to be living with them in Hazelhurst, GA so who cares if she thinks Angela is submissive or not?

Angela jumped through all these hoops to impress Michael's family, but why did she do that and why did she even listen to the marriage counselor if she thinks is so important to be AMERICAN in Nigeria?  Why does she think that it will be impossible to just go through the motions, smile and nod in Nigeria and make sure Michael understands and agrees that she won't be submissive in America.

Like, of course Michael told his Aunt Lydia that Angela will be submissive, because IT DOESN'T MATTER!  He wants his family's approval, particularly since they are paying for the wedding....and their thoughts and opinions wont really matter when he gets to the US.  If anything they will be at peace if they imagine him enjoying his life in Hazelhurst with a white woman cooking him Nigerian food.  Why can't Angela just let them have that?

 

Or just an American woman🤷🏽‍♀️

On 8/25/2020 at 1:50 AM, 2dogmom said:

so Angela gets up in the morning and puts on her necklace and earring set with the giant jeweled lips? to sit and drink coffee and smoke.

Lol to be the lowlife that she is.

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On 8/25/2020 at 4:39 AM, Safadao said:

Michael deserves everything coming to him:

1. the constant yelling and berating

2. the “you can’t ever look at another woman” yelling

3. the putrid smell of cigarettes when Angela sticks her tongue in his mouth

4.  his spine getting crushed whenever she is on top

5. the aroma of old sweat that was trapped between all the skin folds - especially when her breasts are lifted up

6. the constant manipulation and shaming and controlling

 

he deserves it all because he is a 100% free man to make his own decisions and he made them 
 

I have not one bit of sympathy for this loser of a man. He is not a victim. 

And she beast Angela is? Get this hulk off the show haha 

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On 8/25/2020 at 11:10 AM, Quof said:

Any time one makes that comment about an adult female from an impoverished country, they are chastised for not understanding that poverty has driven them to desperation and they can't be held accountable for their choices. 

Right it’s such a double standard. And everyone makes excuses for her. They always find ways to make her a victim and  find someway to blame the guy. It really is a woman’s world haha🙄.

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On 8/26/2020 at 1:30 PM, Cementhead said:

Yes, well, she does have a beautiful uterus so let's not be too tough on her.

Angela has a beautiful nothing haha Michael you should “put the paws” on her. You guys are like the same size hahaha.

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12 hours ago, MrBuhBye said:

People say Michael is handsome but I think he is average (at best). I think Angela knows she couldn’t pull this crap with a good looking guy who has many options.

Michael has that type of baby face that will never break. He’s not “hot” but he’s pretty adorable. I think he’s good looking. 

1 hour ago, magemaud said:

Noooooo, Syngin, not Mom’s white duvet!!!!!!!

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Ewwwwww. 

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Wasn't the duvet Syngin putting his nasty feet on an Airbnb they rented?   If so, they can forget the damage deposit. 

I could be totally wrong about it being an Airbnb too.   I tend to tune my attention out when Syngin is on.   I'd rather watch Dr. Now (My 600 lb Life) hack out a stomach, do skin removal, or chop off a Lymphedema than watch Syngin eat.

Sister Syngin certainly enjoyed Tania and Syngin's fighting, and Tania storming out.   She wants her brother home, and Tania gone.  

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1 hour ago, CrazyInAlabama said:

Wasn't the duvet Syngin putting his nasty feet on an Airbnb they rented?   If so, they can forget the damage deposit. 

I must have missed that. I thought Tania took her plate of food and went into a bedroom at Syngin's parents' when she left the braai. Or was the braai also at the B&B? Anyway, you're right, between Syngin's absolutely filthy feet and Tania eating barbecue in bed, they're going to lose their deposit. This isn't the shed! 

Off topic, but am I the only person who absolutely hates hotel duvets? I feel like I'm suffocating under them and there's usually no choice between totally on and roasting or totally off and freezing. 

Listening to the show again in the background. When they first started singing the Moldovan National Anthem, it kind of sounded like the Oscar Mayer Wiener song. 

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I can stand comforters or duvets.    Since the heat of menopause, I don't like warm covers, and use quilts summer and winter.    Then I just leave the heat at 71 24/7 in winter, so I don't need much in the way of covers, and the quilt works if I get chilly. In the summer I just fold the quilt at the bottom of the bed, and it's mostly there for decoration.   

I think a lot of short term rental  owners use the white slipcovers or duvet covers, and sheets, because they can bleach them when they get dirty.  Then probably have a spare set of everything to put on the bed and furniture, so everything can look good for the next guest.   Of course, after Tania and Family Syngin finish with a place, nuking it from a long distance might be the only way to clean it up. 

 

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On 8/24/2020 at 8:22 AM, steff13 said:

I had to FF through Libby and Andrei's scenes; I just can't with them anymore.  Her family is awful.  

Asuelo's family was also awful.  I hope that's manufactured drama.

I agree with Larissa that she needs a nose job.  🤷

Jess makes me very uncomfortable.  But not as uncomfortable as the dream I had that Colt-ee proposed to me.  The ring was huge but the diamond was poor quality.

Tania eating in the bed and giving Sinjen the silent treatment bugged me.  

I'm glad I'm not the only one that dreams about this craziness!

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How awful to dream of Colt-ee proposing to you!    

I agree Libby-Andrei are horrible, and her family is so nasty, and low class.

Family Asuelu are all the worst, and I don't care how much they say it's all acting, they won't convince me.    I still wish Sister Tammy had gone after Kalani.  Kalani would have shoved her right over the railing.  

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On 8/25/2020 at 4:38 PM, MrBuhBye said:

His family acknowledges how he is.  They just don’t get why she chose him and why she expects him to change his personality at her bidding.

While I agree, I still feel momma and family are enabling him, which is part of why he is who he is. "That's just Syngin," as if it's OK he sits around for two years dreaming of becoming an astronaut at his age, without making a move in any direction.

Tania's a beast, but that really doesn't excuse his total lack of direction.

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On 8/19/2020 at 11:10 AM, AussieBabe said:

Angela reminds me of Rasputia from Eddie Murphy’s movie, Norbit. Michael will be the long suffering, abused house husband. Imagine how Angie is going to act if she comes home and sees the dishes haven’t been washed or the grandkids homework isn’t done. She chastised him like a child. If that was a grizzly bear of a man waiting to verbally pounce on a woman and threatening to “whoop her ass today,” people would be ready to blow something up. I have no doubt that she’s laid hands on him before. She strikes me as an angry drunk, too. I thought she was disgusting when she was yelling at him in front of his aunt and telling him not to talk to her like that, and he was like a small child who had gotten punished. At this point, he must be a glutton for punishment and likes being demeaned and belittled. The shit part of all of this is there’s an active visa ban, so he can’t even work towards a spousal visa or green card until it’s lifted. So he’s really going through all of this abuse for nothing. 

What kind of nanny is Jess? She has seen cottage cheese thigh Colt-ee three or four times and planning another trip to Vegas? Her employer must be lax as all get out.

Tania and Syngin....just divorce already. Fighting in front of the family and airing out all your dirty laundry? Yikes.

Larissa...go home. Breast augmentation, rhinoplasty, etc. She also just had a tummy tuck, BBL, and some other procedure this past week. All she can tell anyone about the States is the plastic surgery scene. She’s useless. Why is she even still in the States?

I am wondering if Angela was abusive towards her 2 daughters growing up?

Family Libby were the  obnoxious and tacky Americans that you read about.

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On 8/24/2020 at 9:52 AM, Boo Boo said:

I think what Tania really wants is someone who brings home the money so she can do her activism.    

And have babies that she won’t lift a finger to take care of. Syngin better hope Tania has fertility issues cuz she doesn’t give a fuck that he’s not ready to have kids. She probably sits in the bathroom poking holes in all the condoms. 

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On 8/24/2020 at 9:37 AM, Boo Boo said:

"Because with Colt, he was fat and I don't care..." Larissa is the gift that keeps on giving.  But she has got to stop fucking with her face and body.

She thinks she will be discovered for modeling or acting.  She better learn how to speekee Englishee or get a self help bookeee”.image.png.e91b81357bfb946286bd96488cba0de8.pngimage.jpeg.5041d34e1a6a2f80f61f32acd86d794a.jpegimage.png.e91b81357bfb946286bd96488cba0de8.pngHow to speekee Englishee in three thousand dayseee.  And I have to learnee how to get rid of thiseee right awayeee.  How do I get rid of this?  Reallyee?  Second time I hit somethingeee wrongee.  Seriously.

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On 9/16/2020 at 6:25 PM, Silver Bells said:

She thinks she will be discovered for modeling or acting.  She better learn how to speekee Englishee or get a self help bookeee”.image.png.e91b81357bfb946286bd96488cba0de8.pngimage.jpeg.5041d34e1a6a2f80f61f32acd86d794a.jpegimage.png.e91b81357bfb946286bd96488cba0de8.pngHow to speekee Englishee in three thousand dayseee.  And I have to learnee how to get rid of thiseee right awayeee.  How do I get rid of this?  Reallyee?  Second time I hit somethingeee wrongee.  Seriously.

Larissa is already 34 years old.  Her modeling career was over a decade ago.  As for acting, we've seen her try to pretend to be interested in Ericee.  No future there, either.

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12 hours ago, doodlebug said:

Larissa is already 34 years old.  Her modeling career was over a decade ago.  As for acting, we've seen her try to pretend to be interested in Ericee.  No future there, either.

Maybe porn star granny (the mother of one of Robert's baby mamas) can give her some connections.

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On 8/18/2020 at 10:12 AM, charmed1 said:

The sneak peak shows Libby’s ugly ass family sitting around a table full of bread and fruit, complaining that they can’t eat it and they need eggs and bacon. And Chuck and Chucklet give their revisionist history version of the dinner with Andrei where they are both of course the innocent damsels in distress under attack from the rabid Moldovan brute.

They don’t have to be innocent for Andre to be wrong. Bottom line is, Andre invited them, they flew all the way out there, Chuck is paying for the wedding (it would not be possible without Chuck), so either learn to bite your tongue or pay for the wedding yourself. You don’t get to act entitled and tell somebody who just flew all the way out here and is paying for your wedding to “fuck off, pack your bags and go,” regardless of the questions they are asking you (which I think they only kept pressing because Andre kept getting defensive and evasive). If you don’t feel comfortable telling them the truth, make something up, FFS, but obviously, when you react defensively to simple questions, it’s gonna make people suspicious and feel like you’re hiding something. 
This wedding wouldn’t even be possible without Chuck, so, if you’re gonna accept his money, you have to accept his annoying questions. 

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