S05.E11: Public Displays Of Contention

[OnceSane]

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Angela refuses to submit to Michael's family; Colt reveals he's been lying to Jess; Elizabeth's family finds out what Andrei has been hiding; Asuelu's family pushes Kalani over the edge; Larissa requests money for a dramatic change.

Airs August 23, 2020.

[charmed1]

The sneak peak shows Libby’s ugly ass family sitting around a table full of bread and fruit, complaining that they can’t eat it and they need eggs and bacon. And Chuck and Chucklet give their revisionist history version of the dinner with Andrei where they are both of course the innocent damsels in distress under attack from the rabid Moldovan brute.

[Kangatush]

I will never ever be Team Angela, because of the abuse, but I will say that she makes a major point that she has never been deceptive about who she is, and how she will behave.

 

[Kangatush]

Jess is a horrible nanny.  She has so much vacation time.

[nutella fitzgerald]

Kalani is the only watchable American.

[Kangatush]

7 hours ago, charmed1 said:

The sneak peak shows Libby’s ugly ass family sitting around a table full of bread and fruit, complaining that they can’t eat it and they need eggs and bacon. And Chuck and Chucklet give their revisionist history version of the dinner with Andrei where they are both of course the innocent damsels in distress under attack from the rabid Moldovan brute.

Not just bread, croissants.  Peasant food.

 

[Chalby]

47 minutes ago, nutella fitzgerald said:

Kalani is the only watchable American.

True, but why is she with such a loser? He makes it unwatchable.

[Frozendiva]

1 hour ago, Kangatush said:

Not just bread, croissants.  Peasant food.

 

 Nothing wrong with croissants and fruit for breakfast. Yum.

[KateHearts]

I've gotta say, Angela was at her very worst this episode. I usually find her mildly amusing, all the while knowing that she is nuts, abrasive, loud, bull-headed and ignorant. This time, she went too far. And when Michael comes into the apartment and she says, "It's done. I'm done..." but on her face is a satisfied smirk. It's all a game.  Then she is SCREAMING... "I'M NOT LISTENING... I'M NOT LISTENING..." It made my blood boil. She's disgusting. And then there's Michael's talking head: "I think there's been a misunderstanding."  Ya think??  The entire encounter was just cringe-worthy and bordered on upsetting. At this point, I don't have much sympathy for Michael. The writing is on the wall, the red flags are waving, and he sits there trying to placate her.  Walk. Away.

Libby's family never fails to disappoint. SisterWitch Jenn starts before they leave the airport, slamming the weather, and continues on the ride from the airport: "it's so dark and depressing. It's like 4 pm and it's getting dark."  The meal that Andrei's parents prepared was lovely, as always.  And they continue to insult: "what's that? I'm not eating THAT."  Next morning: they trash Andrei, the fattsy twins C&C describe  (in distorted detail) how awful Andrei was at the Moldovan Midieval Times restaurant, puffing out their chests and inserting "dude" into their diatribe every other word.  Mother (I held out hope for her for a short while- alas, she's just as bad) and Jenn look agape, eyes bulging at the horrific behavior of Andre as described by C&C. Then they all complain (again) about the food (the bread is stale, where are the bacon and eggs?) and huff off to find a McDonald's. What a fucking joy they all are. Can't stand a single one of them.

[Leilani]

This is Angela with the cameras on. There is no doubt in my mind she is more physically and verbally abusive off camera.

 

[Mrs. Hanson]

16 hours ago, KateHearts said:

I've gotta say, Angela was at her very worst this episode. I usually find her mildly amusing, all the while knowing that she is nuts, abrasive, loud, bull-headed and ignorant. This time, she went too far. And when Michael comes into the apartment and she says, "It's done. I'm done..." but on her face is a satisfied smirk. It's all a game.  Then she is SCREAMING... "I'M NOT LISTENING... I'M NOT LISTENING..." It made my blood boil. She's disgusting. And then there's Michael's talking head: "I think there's been a misunderstanding."  Ya think??  The entire encounter was just cringe-worthy and bordered on upsetting. At this point, I don't have much sympathy for Michael. The writing is on the wall, the red flags are waving, and he sits there trying to placate her.  Walk. Away.

Libby's family never fails to disappoint. SisterWitch Jenn starts before they leave the airport, slamming the weather, and continues on the ride from the airport: "it's so dark and depressing. It's like 4 pm and it's getting dark."  The meal that Andrei's parents prepared was lovely, as always.  And they continue to insult: "what's that? I'm not eating THAT."  Next morning: they trash Andrei, the fattsy twins C&C describe  (in distorted detail) how awful Andrei was at the Moldovan Midieval Times restaurant, puffing out their chests and inserting "dude" into their diatribe every other word.  Mother (I held out hope for her for a short while- alas, she's just as bad) and Jenn look agape, eyes bulging at the horrific behavior of Andre as described by C&C. Then they all complain (again) about the food (the bread is stale, where are the bacon and eggs?) and huff off to find a McDonald's. What a fucking joy they all are. Can't stand a single one of them.

I have nothing to add.  I had to mute Angela with her yelling at Michael, then taunting him:  "Make me....MAKE ME!"  Said it before, I will say it again:  If that was a male talking to a female it would not air.

Bolding mine:  Welcome to Minnesota November through March.   And I love it.  Great reason to get into your pj's at 5, eat leftover beef stew and go to bed at 8.

Had I gotten off a plane I would have been as follows:  "Moldavian food?   YES PLEASE!"  But I was brought up to be gracious and say thank you like most fellow humans,

[AussieBabe]

Angela reminds me of Rasputia from Eddie Murphy’s movie, Norbit. Michael will be the long suffering, abused house husband. Imagine how Angie is going to act if she comes home and sees the dishes haven’t been washed or the grandkids homework isn’t done. She chastised him like a child. If that was a grizzly bear of a man waiting to verbally pounce on a woman and threatening to “whoop her ass today,” people would be ready to blow something up. I have no doubt that she’s laid hands on him before. She strikes me as an angry drunk, too. I thought she was disgusting when she was yelling at him in front of his aunt and telling him not to talk to her like that, and he was like a small child who had gotten punished. At this point, he must be a glutton for punishment and likes being demeaned and belittled. The shit part of all of this is there’s an active visa ban, so he can’t even work towards a spousal visa or green card until it’s lifted. So he’s really going through all of this abuse for nothing. 

What kind of nanny is Jess? She has seen cottage cheese thigh Colt-ee three or four times and planning another trip to Vegas? Her employer must be lax as all get out.

Tania and Syngin....just divorce already. Fighting in front of the family and airing out all your dirty laundry? Yikes.

Larissa...go home. Breast augmentation, rhinoplasty, etc. She also just had a tummy tuck, BBL, and some other procedure this past week. All she can tell anyone about the States is the plastic surgery scene. She’s useless. Why is she even still in the States?

Edited August 19, 2020 by AussieBabe

[Fable]

16 hours ago, KateHearts said:

Libby's family never fails to disappoint. SisterWitch Jenn starts before they leave the airport, slamming the weather, and continues on the ride from the airport: "it's so dark and depressing. It's like 4 pm and it's getting dark."  The meal that Andrei's parents prepared was lovely, as always.  And they continue to insult: "what's that? I'm not eating THAT."  Next morning: they trash Andrei, the fattsy twins C&C describe  (in distorted detail) how awful Andrei was at the Moldovan Midieval Times restaurant, puffing out their chests and inserting "dude" into their diatribe every other word.  Mother (I held out hope for her for a short while- alas, she's just as bad) and Jenn look agape, eyes bulging at the horrific behavior of Andre as described by C&C. Then they all complain (again) about the food (the bread is stale, where are the bacon and eggs?) and huff off to find a McDonald's. What a fucking joy they all are. Can't stand a single one of them.

Even though I think most of Family Libby’s story is made for TV, I find it completely disgusting what with all their complaining about Moldovan culture and their never-ending quest to dig into Andrei’s past.  Maybe next time they start trying to badger Andrei about his motives for leaving Moldova, he should say, “like you, I think the weather is shitty, the housing is trashy and the food is gross, so how about that.”  Maybe that would shut them up. 

[Mrs. Hanson]

21 hours ago, KateHearts said:

This time, she went too far. And when Michael comes into the apartment and she says, "It's done. I'm done..." but on her face is a satisfied smirk. It's all a game.  Then she is SCREAMING... "I'M NOT LISTENING... I'M NOT LISTENING..." It made my blood boil. She's disgusting. And then there's Michael's talking head: "I think there's been a misunderstanding."  Ya think??  The entire encounter was just cringe-worthy and bordered on upsetting. At this point, I don't have much sympathy for Michael. The writing is on the wall, the red flags are waving, and he sits there trying to placate her.  Walk. Away.

I watched the sneak peak and I had to mute it.  It really was borderline upsetting, and I really wanted Micheal to say "Yes you are right.  Go home."  Michael, this is her in YOUR country.  Do you really think in Georgia it will be better?  Spoiler alert:  It will be worse.  "You are in MY house, in MY COUNTRY and I am a tax paying citizen.  Do as you are told or I will have you deported."

Angela is now in a tie for worst person, she is tied with Tiffany as worst person.

Edited to add:  I watched the scene again just so I could get it right:  She taunts him, saying "Make me!  MAKE ME!" and seems to be swatting at him, followed by threatening to "Whoop your ass!"  Again, why is this airing?

Edited August 19, 2020 by Mrs. Hanson

[AussieBabe]

3 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I watched the sneak peak and I had to mute it.  It really was borderline upsetting, and I really wanted Micheal to say "Yes you are right.  Go home."  Michael, this is her in YOUR country.  Do you really think in Georgia it will be better?  Spoiler alert:  It will be worse.  "You are in MY house, in MY COUNTRY and I am a tax paying citizen.  Do as you are told or I will have you deported."

Angela is now in a tie for worst person, she is tied with Tiffany as worst person.

Edited to add:  I watched the scene again just so I could get it right:  She taunts him, saying "Make me!  MAKE ME!" and seems to be swatting at him, followed by threatening to "Whoop your ass!"  Again, why is this airing?

Because she’s a woman and TLC seems to think it’s “funny.” I promise if a man was sitting there waiting to verbally attack a woman and telling her he would whoop her ass, it wouldn’t have ever seen the light of day. Some people act like he deserves it because he’s just with her for a green card and hasn’t left. Stockholm Syndrome is a real thing and some people who have been kidnapped or harmed swear they love their abusers. Nobody deserves to be treated like that, and I don’t think it’s just for telly or ratings. When I did a search for 90 day and her name on Twitter, every other tweet references how abusive she is. I have no doubt she’s worse when the cameras are gone. He has aged tremendously and looks defeated constantly. Even when he’s dealing with her, he looks down like a scolded child who can’t make eye contact. That relationship is disturbing. She has been a nightmare this trip and even worse than usual. Nobody told her to leave her ailing mother to run to Nigeria. It made me uncomfortable to watch because I just know if it was a man saying what she said and acting how she did, all hell would break loose.

[charmed1]

4 hours ago, AussieBabe said:

Because she’s a woman and TLC seems to think it’s “funny.” I promise if a man was sitting there waiting to verbally attack a woman and telling her he would whoop her ass, it wouldn’t have ever seen the light of day. Some people act like he deserves it because he’s just with her for a green card and hasn’t left. Stockholm Syndrome is a real thing and some people who have been kidnapped or harmed swear they love their abusers. Nobody deserves to be treated like that, and I don’t think it’s just for telly or ratings. When I did a search for 90 day and her name on Twitter, every other tweet references how abusive she is. I have no doubt she’s worse when the cameras are gone. He has aged tremendously and looks defeated constantly. Even when he’s dealing with her, he looks down like a scolded child who can’t make eye contact. That relationship is disturbing. She has been a nightmare this trip and even worse than usual. Nobody told her to leave her ailing mother to run to Nigeria. It made me uncomfortable to watch because I just know if it was a man saying what she said and acting how she did, all hell would break loose.

No disagreement here. If Michael were a woman and Angela a man, there certainly would be no question of “hey, maybe she likes it.” Imagine saying that about the Eastern European women or Filipinas who have appeared on this show. They’re always viewed as sympathetic waifs, forced to marry their gross American paramours as a means to an end of their impoverishment. Because Michael is soft-spoken, wants a green card, and doesn’t push back on the abuse does not mean he likes being abused.

Edited August 20, 2020 by charmed1

[mamadrama]

Part of me thinks that the whole Angela/Mykull storyline has been fabricated to keep them on the show. We make fun of Darcey for being on multiple seasons without a fiance, but look how far Angela's made it without a marriage. She's on HEA and their marriage hasn't even happened yet. She knows drama keeps the camera rolling. 

That said...if even 15% of this is real then it's too much. Abusive behavior does not equal entertainment for me.

Family Libby is the same. Libby's been aiming for a spin off since she first appeared on camera. She saw how Family Chantel acted and has replicated the formula. Still, no TLC spin off would be worth it for me to go to another country and act like an Ugly American. Like with a lot of these people, the storyline may be fake, but the fact they're willing to go along with it at all says something about them. 

[magemaud]

Why does Angela have two pair of glasses ON HER HEAD? 

 

[magemaud]

Syngin eats like a caveman 

[AZChristian]

9 hours ago, magemaud said:

Why does Angela have two pair of glasses ON HER HEAD? 

 

I buy my reading glasses at Costco, so I always get three at a time. 

I confess.  Before I retired, I'd have several pairs on my desk at work, and would sometimes prop a pair on my head if I was switching from close-up reading to an activity where I didn't need them.  Then I'd pick up a document or something else that required reading glasses and - having forgotten there was a pair on my head - grab another pair of glasses off my desk.  Finish with those . . . BAM.  They would join the others on the top of my head.  

One day, I went into my boss' office to pick up the mail from his "outgoing" tray.  He stopped me to ask a question about one of the items in the tray, so I started squinting like crazy to try to read the document.  He smiled and said (in his wonderful British accent), "P____, do you know you have two pairs of glasses on your head?"

I hope that's the only thing I have in common with Angela.

[Johannah]

17 hours ago, mamadrama said:

 

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...Libby's been aiming for a spin off since she first appeared on camera. She saw how Family Chantel acted and has replicated the formula. Still, no TLC spin off would be worth it for me to go to another country and act like an Ugly American. Like with a lot of these people, the storyline may be fake, but the fact they're willing to go along with it at all says something about them. 

I would sometimes watch an actor play a nasty role and think I couldn't do that lest someone think that trait was mine.  But these people are playing themselves!  Like when folks said Yolanda was going along with the catfishing and naivete and I think, why would you want the world to think that about you?  So, I totally agree with you that even if it's fake, the fact that you are going along with it says something about you.  Just to be on television?

 

Edited August 20, 2020 by Johann
Tried to get rid of that extra box. Sorry.

[John M]

On 8/18/2020 at 4:43 PM, Kangatush said:

Not just bread, croissants.  Peasant food.

 

Not just croissants, perfectly baked, flaky croissants the size of your head. And cornucopia of beautiful fruit that you would have to dig to find in a Whole Foods, if you were lucky.

Jesus Fucking Christ, they were about to start bitching that the "cresents" weren't fresh out of the oven like Pillsbury and those gorgeous pears weren't even peeled and soft in their sauce.

 

[Kangatush]

58 minutes ago, John M said:

Not just croissants, perfectly baked, flaky croissants the size of your head. And cornucopia of beautiful fruit that you would have to dig to find in a Whole Foods, if you were lucky.

Jesus Fucking Christ, they were about to start bitching that the "cresents" weren't fresh out of the oven like Pillsbury and those gorgeous pears weren't even peeled and soft in their sauce.

 

Aren't they at an AirBNB?  I thought they needed to provide their own food at those.  And that "raw bacon" sends actual foodies into ecstasy.  Lardo, in Italian, is a real delicacy.  But it's just not for the Tampa landed gentry.    

[magemaud]

8 hours ago, Kangatush said:

Aren't they at an AirBNB?  I thought they needed to provide their own food at those 

That’s what I was wondering, too. The owners might have provided a light “Continental Breakfast.” If Libby booked it, shouldn’t she have been the person to make sure the refrigerator was stocked with the “Denny’s Grand Slam Breakfast” ingredients that her discriminating and health conscious (j/k) family is accustomed to eating in the morning? 

And no excuse for “raw bacon.” There’s a stove right there. 

Edited August 21, 2020 by magemaud

[Mr. Miner]

Tania knows damn well Syringe wants to be a cowboy. Why is she freaking out? 🙄

[Frozendiva]

Watched the 20 minute preview.

Yeah, Tampa folks, Moldova gets four seasons and part of the joy of having a long summer evening when it's daylight til probably 10 pm is that it gets dark early in late fall. So it will be dark before 6 pm. More good food at Andrei's folks place - Eastern Europeans know how to put out a spread - filled with love and respect. You are a valued guest. Andrei was behaving himself, he translated pretty well. If Lib's family wants the bacon and eggs for breakfast, I'm sure Andrei can drop them off at a grocery store and they can buy whatever food they want or find a nearby cafe that will serve them what they want. I know I am quite content to have ham and sausage and bread and whatever during the holidays. Andrei's parents are so sweet and polite.

Awww, Coltee, more lies for Jess - that you are talking to other women. Granted, you are not exclusive and there is the distance factor and Jess will never know. Send pics of the cats. Unless you are willing to fly her to Vegas and put her up at a nice hotel.

Syngin likes being home too much. Interesting to use wood for the bbq. The gas here is easier to turn off. He and Tania really aren't all that well-suited to each other. She is looking for herself and he is looking for himself and both don't get that maybe one of them has to have some sort of direction so the other can find their way. They are likely to implode soon. Why they got married is anyone's guess.

[magemaud]

Why is Tania absolutely SCREAMING at the dinner table? And she tells Syngin to “dial it down a notch”? 

Didn't Larissa accuse Colt of having a porn addiction? Maybe he wasn’t just “talking” to other women 

[greekmom]

Coltee talking to Jess about staying in his room when she comes to Vegas and *wink* made me throw up a little.

Everyone at the table at Chez Syngin's was eating respectfully, even Tania.  Syngin was shoving the food in his mouth using the fork like a shovel.

 

[AZChristian]

9 hours ago, magemaud said:

Why is Tania absolutely SCREAMING at the dinner table? And she tells Syngin to “dial it down a notch”? 

She's just like Angela . . . yelling at the other person "Do not raise your voice to me."

[Persnickety1]

On 8/19/2020 at 10:18 PM, magemaud said:

Why does Angela have two pair of glasses ON HER HEAD? 

 

Her bra was full?  😄 

[Persnickety1]

1 hour ago, greekmom said:

Everyone at the table at Chez Syngin's was eating respectfully, even Tania.  Syngin was shoving the food in his mouth using the fork like a shovel.

 

I noticed that, too.  He was shoveling food in like a prisoner who is only given only 15 minutes to eat and just rounded the 13-minute mark.  

I did laugh at his flowery description of a "braai" in South Africa...and then went on to describe pretty much an American barbecue.  Cooking, eating, and socializing.

Must have been some damned good "braai," though, as I noticed pretty much everyone kept eating as the shit was hitting the fan (including Tania until the tears began).  

I don't think he's ready to be a husband or a father.  I think he needs to send Tania (I WANT KIDS!) back to America before he impregnates her and is stuck with her for life.  He needs to go back to his nomad ways, letting the "universe" take him where he needs to go...without any responsibilities because he clearly isn't ready to grow up (and may never be).  

Anybody remember that old show Get A Life with Chris Elliott, about a grown man living at home with his parents and delivering newspapers because he didn't want to grow up?  That's who Syngin reminds me of.  It was funny on a sitcom but not so much in real life.  

(On the bright side, in her talking heads in the red dress, it looks like Tania finally bought a bra!  It's the little things...)

Edited August 22, 2020 by Persnickety1

[magemaud]

49 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

in her talking heads in the red dress, it looks like Tania finally bought a bra! 

We had a bra and a braai in the same episode! 

 

50 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

I did laugh at his flowery description of a "braai" in South Africa...and then went on to describe pretty much an American barbecue.  Cooking, eating, and socializing.

but they use WOOD instead of gas! 

[alotmorestupider]

Jen thinks she’s hot shit but mostly she looks like a cross-eyed buck-toothed chinless harridan. Who says “what is your song?” during a dinner?! Is she already wasted? If someone demanded I sing the Canadian anthem during our first meeting, I’d be like get out of life, thanks. I don’t know her but I know I wouldn’t like her. 

I think Tania’s hamming it up for the cameras because who gets that hysterical about their husband’s lack of career in front of their in-laws? And lol about South Africa being racist and impoverished like the US isn’t. It’s obvious Syngin has no interest in putting roots down in the US. Or ever having a steady job. Or becoming a father. Let the guy go, man. He wants to drift through life, taking opportunities as they come and that’s totally fine. But he has no business being a father and I hope to god they don’t bring kids into the mix. 

 

[Persnickety1]

35 minutes ago, alotmorestupider said:

Jen thinks she’s hot shit but mostly she looks like a cross-eyed buck-toothed chinless harridan. Who says “what is your song?” during a dinner?! Is she already wasted? If someone demanded I sing the Canadian anthem during our first meeting, I’d be like get out of life, thanks. I don’t know her but I know I wouldn’t like her. 
 

Oh holy hell, I was terrified she was going to burst out singing.  Thank the goddesses that didn't happen.  

[Quof]

8 minutes ago, Persnickety1 said:

Oh holy hell, I was terrified she was going to burst out singing. 

When she said "Libby's a good singer", I was sure we were going to hear it, as part of her never ending quest for reality show fame.

[Persnickety1]

1 minute ago, Quof said:

When she said "Libby's a good singer", I was sure we were going to hear it, as part of her never ending quest for reality show fame.

Ugh, see my post right above yours.

I wonder if she did sing but it was cut from the episode?  

I will be happy to go the rest of my life without having to hear chinless Libby caterwaul.  

[TwirlyGirly]

On 8/18/2020 at 7:50 PM, KateHearts said:

<snip> At this point, I don't have much sympathy for Michael. The writing is on the wall, the red flags are waving, and he sits there trying to placate her.  Walk. Run. Away. <snip>

There. Fixed it for you. And, I would add:

"Don't look back or you may turn into a pillar of salt. Or spontaneously combust. Or... something. Best not to risk it."

1 hour ago, alotmorestupider said:

<snip> Ifsomeone demanded I sing the Canadian anthem during our first meeting, I’d be like get out of life, thanks. <snip>

<snip> It’s obvious Syngin has no interest in putting roots down in the US. Or ever having a steady job. Or becoming a father. Let the guy go, man. He wants to drift through life, taking opportunities as they come and that’s totally fine. But he has no business being a father and I hope to god they don’t bring kids into the mix. 

 

I give you the Moldovian National Anthem, for your viewing and listening pleasure:

Many posters have commented Syngin appears not to want to work, perhaps forgetting he worked the mines in South Africa for seven years.

Considering how physically demanding and dangerous mining is (I recall reading somewhere 81 people died in S.A. mines in 2018), that he was able to stick it out for as long as he did belies the accusation he's lazy/a slacker.

That being said, I doubt there are any skills used in mining that would transfer to other jobs (especially since he doesn't want to do more physical labor; can't say I blame him for that).

Whatever he decides (or is open to him) he'll either have to start at the very bottom and work his way up or go to school/a training program - for something entirely different. Which is fine!

I wonder how much of his procrastination is due to his perception America offers a seemingly endless number of possibilities, compared to South Africa? (It doesn't really, because education, experience, talent, age, etc., all affect the choices we have, but I can understand how someone coming from abroad might not see that).

Perhaps what Syngin needs is to talk to a career counselor with whom he can discuss his interests, and who can give him an idea as to what options are realistically available to him. Who knows? A career counselor may have suggestions Syngin isn't even aware of that might be perfect for him.

[AZChristian]

42 minutes ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Many posters have commented Syngin appears not to want to work, perhaps forgetting he worked the mines in South Africa for seven years.

Considering how physically demanding and dangerous mining is (I recall reading somewhere 81 people died in S.A. mines in 2018), that he was able to stick it out for as long as he did belies the accusation he's lazy/a slacker.

That being said, I doubt there are any skills used in mining that would transfer to other jobs (especially since he doesn't want to do more physical labor; can't say I blame him for that).

Whatever he decides (or is open to him) he'll either have to start at the very bottom and work his way up or go to school/a training program - for something entirely different. Which is fine!

His father was a manager at the mines.  "Worked the mines" and "worked IN the mines" could be two totally different things.

He appears to only want to do things that allow him to be the center of attention wherever he is:  bartender, opera singer, fireman, actor.

If he can find a job that involves tossing his hair with his hands every minute or so, he'll be rich.

[TwirlyGirly]

3 minutes ago, AZChristian said:

His father was a manager at the mines.  "Worked the mines" and "worked IN the mines" could be two totally different things.

From news24.com:

"[A]fter opening up on the show about his 7-year stint working in underground mining operations in South Africa, it became apparent that the 29-year-old was still dealing with the fallout from the traumatic work experience. 

[...]

'I worked 2.7 km underground, the deepest in South Africa, and it was traumatising, especially being that young [17].  It is such a toxic environment, and you are told that as a man, you can't show emotion. There was a lot of drinking and drugs, and for a young person, especially, it was traumatic. I witnessed people dying. And looking back now, I would risk my life going back underground for stupid reasons. There were so many times I would wake up in the morning thinking about committing suicide, and now I realise that I definitely have PTSD,' he adds."

He probably wasn't seated behind a desk 2.7 km. underground. 😉

[nb360]

4 hours ago, TwirlyGirly said:

Many posters have commented Syngin appears not to want to work, perhaps forgetting he worked the mines in South Africa for seven years.

Considering how physically demanding and dangerous mining is (I recall reading somewhere 81 people died in S.A. mines in 2018), that he was able to stick it out for as long as he did belies the accusation he's lazy/a slacker.

Thanks for posting that, TwirlyGirly, I had completely forgotten about that. In addition to a career counselor, he needs to talk to a marriage counselor.

For all of Tania's big talk about her "direction," we should remember that she encouraged Syngin to travel to America -- only to welcome him with a disorganized, cluttered shed and told him to "get to work" on making it livable. There are so many signs that should tell Syngin to run and he's not acknowledging any of them.

[Mr. Miner]

1 hour ago, nb360 said:

Thanks for posting that, TwirlyGirly, I had completely forgotten about that. In addition to a career counselor, he needs to talk to a marriage counselor.

For all of Tania's big talk about her "direction," we should remember that she encouraged Syngin to travel to America -- only to welcome him with a disorganized, cluttered shed and told him to "get to work" on making it livable. There are so many signs that should tell Syngin to run and he's not acknowledging any of them.

Don’t forget! her unwashed chipmunk looking ass left him in the shed and went to Costa Rica for a month.

[mamadrama]

On 8/21/2020 at 3:28 AM, Kangatush said:

Aren't they at an AirBNB?  I thought they needed to provide their own food at those.  And that "raw bacon" sends actual foodies into ecstasy.  Lardo, in Italian, is a real delicacy.  But it's just not for the Tampa landed gentry.    

My husband had never had crispy bacon until he moved to the US. Our kids eat it his way, too. When we go to a restaurant I have to specify "wobbly." If it can be held up straight then it's too well done.

[Colfrmb]

I’m sorry that Syngin spent 7 years working at a mine and he is still shell shocked.  Maybe he needs to go back to SA and apply for some sort of State funded emotional handicap assistance.  He should just tell Tania that he can’t handle it in the US any more and if she wants to be with him, she can come with him.

[Brooklynista]

So not only was Tania cussing up a storm like a circus monkey at the dinnee table with Syngin's family, this uncouth shrew left her plate on the damn table. She doesn't belong around civilized people.

[TwirlyGirly]

17 hours ago, nb360 said:

Thanks for posting that, TwirlyGirly, I had completely forgotten about that. In addition to a career counselor, he needs to talk to a marriage counselor.

I would also say he needs to talk to a psychologist specializing in trauma. If he does have PTSD, then his excessive drinking is probably him self-medicating.

Telling him to stop drinking and get a job isn't likely to work if that's the case; he needs professional help to deal with his PTSD.

[Hotel Snarker]

I just watched the preview, and I dont know who I loathe more, Andrei or Elizabeth and her entire family!!! A part of me is  leaning towards the latter. Spoiled, selfish brats!

 

The way I see it is Elizabeth's family constantly gives Andrei a hard time and like tries to start conflicts. That's what I see and it is so irritating and sad actually, because Andrei’s parents are so sweet. And his mother seems to go out of her way to welcome Libby’s family. They reciprocate by insulting the food and the country. Absolutely no manners or respect.

 

Honestly If I were Libby, I’d tell my family to back off. Can clearly tell they’re making her husband uncomfortable. I get wanting to know who your daughter is marrying but prying is going to make it worse 🤷🏻‍♀️.
 

As for Syringe and The Bossy Tania, he is a big child, but I think she thought that she would change him, and sadly...for her that is not gonna happen. And, if his family continues to pretend that he is not responsible for his actions, then she will be miserable!

So, Tania is insufferable and I still cannot stand her, but I get her a little more now that his true colors are showing. 🤦‍♀️

[magemaud]

Mean Girl Jenn gets off the plane wearing a beret and says she wished she was in France. Then she turns her nose up at the croissants and fresh fruit. Well, guess what they would be serving for breakfast in Paris! 

I wonder if we'll see any more of Libby's never-before-mentioned-stepfather, Walter. So far, I find him to be the most likable of the bunch because he's not seen OR heard! 

[charmed1]

On 8/22/2020 at 10:26 AM, Persnickety1 said:

Anybody remember that old show Get A Life with Chris Elliott, about a grown man living at home with his parents and delivering newspapers because he didn't want to grow up? 

At least Chris enrolled in the Handsome Boy Modeling School.

[endure]

"I'm not Ellie, don't pick me up".......SFU bimbo and your sister is even worse than you are! I wish he dropped you on your head.

Now I feel better lol....

[Alonzo Mosely FBI]

Coltee joy honking after the drone hit him in the face and the jazzy sweet piano music! DYING I TELL YOU!  HAHAHAHAHAHA 🎺🎷