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30 minutes ago, AYTOfan said:

No idea what y'all think but I found Victoria her dancing very good yesterday

I thought she had pop and danced fine. These ladies have to dance the fine line between blending and standing out.

As a spectator at any sports event, the cheerleaders dance facing the audience. Not only are the DCCs blocking the view, I would not want to be staring at their posterior area for the entire game. I hope TPTB, rethink how to utilize the squad.

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1 hour ago, Dtowngal5280 said:

Maybe they are not facing the fans - so they can look at the other groups and all do the same dance?  Don't get me wrong, I'd be pissed too if I spent good money to watch the game and couldn't see.

I don’t think it’s that because the touchdown decks are at least 130 yards apart (field plus end zones), so it’d be hard for one group to see what the other is doing.  My guess is that it’s also not an issue of facing toward or away from the fans, it’s an issue of facing toward the TV cameras.  
 

I think the fans are irrelevant to the equation because if they mattered at all, they wouldn’t be seated in rows where their view is blocked by the cheerleaders.  There’s zero need to do that in a stadium that’s at, what, twenty percent capacity?

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54 minutes ago, AYTOfan said:

No idea what y'all think but I found Victoria her dancing very good yesterday

I thought she was fine.  In fact I thought she was Lexie at 1st.

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1 hour ago, rl27rl said:

To me VK's dancing just looks over the top and spastic.  It was so distracting and not in a good way.  I kept waiting for her to fall on her turns like she usually does.

Vic dances heavy.  She always has.  She really needs to work on and develop, her core strength.

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13 hours ago, lemonbus230 said:

You don’t cut veterans so that you can have shaky rookies. Based on those videos it’s evident Judy and Kelli made rash decisions that they now have to live with. Not that they care, I’m sure.

Yes! They should haven’t had rookies this year at all. I read the Gold Rush cheerleaders only took returning vets. Their coach said this year would have been too overwhelming for new cheerleaders. Also, I thought the DCC didn’t dance on the touchdown decks anymore because of risk of injury but this year they think it’s okay? I really question the common sense of TPTB. 

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15 minutes ago, go4luca said:

Vic dances heavy.  She always has.  She really needs to work on and develop, her core strength.

I agree with this.  Improving her core strength would significantly improve her dancing overall, especially in her preferred lyrical style. 
 

That said, I thought she looked good yesterday.  There was one kick I noticed that wasn’t great, but I’ve also heard that those decks are really slippery and they’re not used to dancing on them, so she gets a pass from me on that.  I didn’t realize immediately who it was, but I knew it was a veteran.  I thought she looked strong, sharp, confident, and fun to watch — far better than the two rookies next to her and the brunette vet who was the next down the line.  
 

I thought she was a mess her first season trying out and improved enough to make the team last year but in the bottom half of the group, but I was impressed by the clips from the game that were posted here.  She’s a tall, leggy East Texas blonde with big boobs and a big smile, and her dancing has noticeably improved.  I can’t see her joining the Rockettes or walking the runways in Milan, but selling tons of sideline calendars and posters in her DCC uniform?  Absolutely. She’s basically the DCC Barbie come to life. 

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12 hours ago, Kitkatkitty said:

Yay! So the groups are: (just guessing on group numbers)

1: Maddie (GL1), Ashlee (GL2), Rachel A, Lisa, Chandi, Kelcey, McKenzie 

2: Lexie (GL1), Amber (GL2), Darian, Jalyn, Kristin, Briana, Marissa, Savannah 

3: Gina (GL1), Caroline (GL2), Victoria, Alora Rose, Jessica, Madeline, Armani, Claire 

4: Tess (GL1), Rachel W (GL2), Elli, Cianna, Sydney, Alanna, Dani, Taylor, Jada, Erin 

@lemonbus230 I have to be wrong about someone in Tess' group since there should only be 9 girls and not 10, do you know which one? Also I don't know what groups Amanda, Daphne, and Kat are in. 

The rookies seem uneven like they forgot to rearrange them after cuts.

So I tried to make a visual with all the groups baised on what you the groups could look like. I placed the missing girls and tried to mix haircolour and skintone. I am probably have it wrong tho lol

 

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5 minutes ago, AYTOfan said:

So I tried to make a visual with all the groups baised on what you the groups could look like. I placed the missing girls and tried to mix haircolour and skintone. I am probably have it wrong tho lol

 

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You have Gina and Lexie groups labeled as group 3 

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2 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

You have Gina and Lexie groups labeled as group 3 

Oh yeah, you are right. I copy paste it and forgot to changed the 3 lol

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On 9/17/2020 at 3:24 PM, CrazyMoon said:

My nearlty 68yo high school friend goes by "Barbi"...it's ridiculous

I have a 60 year old friend whose given name is "Barbie".  That is what is listed on her birth certificate. 

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Knowing what we know now about the 1-game suspension, I wouldn't be surprised if the "false positive" that came from Tess' group was from Tess herself. 

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I feel for Rachel A.  She should have got a second group leader position. The pod cast in the bubble I thought Rachel A was very well spoken. her dancing has really improved over the years, and she was captain of her squad in college.  She's in her 4th year.  Carolyn and Amber are off traveling during Labor Day weekend.  One gets benched, the other dances, but Rachel A who stays home is not a second leader.  go figure that one.

I also have no problem they did not go with an all vet squad.  Everyone going thru this awful year had hopes things would get better.  Meredith and Lily and Brennan( I like them all I just always saw them as a risk getting cut)  to an extent should not have gotten a pass because they were vets.  If you barely make the team, every year you are going to be at risk.  I like some turnover especially since I believe there is more to life than being a DCC.  I'm still unhappy over Hannah but know that attitude affects lots of peoples jobs and it goes back to she could have opted out of a year.

As to VK, she looks good in her uniform, danced strong, and looks like a vet.  Alora looked like a hot mess but the first game is always rough. These girls had less time in camp and are dancing on what people say is a slick surface.  

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4 minutes ago, DCCFanatic82 said:

Knowing what we know now about the 1-game suspension, I wouldn't be surprised if the "false positive" that came from Tess' group was from Tess herself. 

That’s what I’m thinking 

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On 9/18/2020 at 3:53 PM, Jennv said:

I dont think that was it, i believe they make every effort to place the kids back with birth parents, or with family, if possible. I believe in both cases family members ended up reunited with the children

I think  you are correct...the one little girl he fostered, was subsequently sent to the family that had adopted her other two biological siblings, which makes perfect sense.  As he stated in his post, however, the parental rights were not terminated as they had been with the other two siblings, and she was sent back to her biological mother.  This hurts my heart because she was just adapting to being with her actual siblings.  Now...if mom has cleaned up her act,  then she needs to PROVE that she has in order to be able to get the  child.  My opinion, since I work with NICU babies and we have many that go into the foster care system, is that she have supervised visits with the child, mom stays clean for a minimum of a year, while building up a relationship with the child and ONLY THEN does she get the child back.  That's just my opinion though...and I can't tell you how many times I have made that statement on documents when we are asked to give statements about the child's placement.  I don't know how things are in Texas, but in KY...our child welfare departments, are incredibly overwhelmed, under paid and understaffed, and so many children just fall thru the cracks.  😞 

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12 minutes ago, Lexusprincess said:

I feel for Rachel A.  She should have got a second group leader position. The pod cast in the bubble I thought Rachel A was very well spoken. her dancing has really improved over the years, and she was captain of her squad in college.  She's in her 4th year.  Carolyn and Amber are off traveling during Labor Day weekend.  One gets benched, the other dances, but Rachel A who stays home is not a second leader.  go figure that one.

I also have no problem they did not go with an all vet squad.  Everyone going thru this awful year had hopes things would get better.  Meredith and Lily and Brennan( I like them all I just always saw them as a risk getting cut)  to an extent should not have gotten a pass because they were vets.  If you barely make the team, every year you are going to be at risk.  I like some turnover especially since I believe there is more to life than being a DCC.  I'm still unhappy over Hannah but know that attitude affects lots of peoples jobs and it goes back to she could have opted out of a year.

As to VK, she looks good in her uniform, danced strong, and looks like a vet.  Alora looked like a hot mess but the first game is always rough. These girls had less time in camp and are dancing on what people say is a slick surface.  

I really hoped Rachel A would be a second leader too. I wouldnt be surprised if this is her last year and hoped to get some leadership

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1 hour ago, Tinydancerxo28 said:

Yes! They should haven’t had rookies this year at all. I read the Gold Rush cheerleaders only took returning vets. Their coach said this year would have been too overwhelming for new cheerleaders. Also, I thought the DCC didn’t dance on the touchdown decks anymore because of risk of injury but this year they think it’s okay? I really question the common sense of TPTB. 

The Denver Broncos Cheerleaders went with veterans only for this year's squad.

 

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36 minutes ago, go4luca said:

I just don't see a reason to bring in rookies during a pandemic year where they won't be near the same capacity for performing or appearances.  They could easily do with a few less on the touchdown decks and allow for even more distancing.  If they brought in rookies and cut vets for drama, for me, that makes it even worse.  Other squads have made the choice to go with vets only and for me, that makes the most sense considering we still have a pandemic that won't be ending any time soon.  JMHO.

 

 

Agreed! I’m not blaming the rookies but based on those videos, the squad definitely did not look like a world class squad...apparently it was ratings over people’s health this year.

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14 hours ago, Trixi said:

They shud have just kept the 29 vets, held a mini-camp to rehearse and block the touchdown decks and gone with the smaller squad. Good for keeping everyone safe, not good if ur main concern is a reality TV series. 

I agree but can’t have a Making the Team Shoe with nobody new making it. 

8 hours ago, Deweymom said:

Might not be popular opinions:

1)  This is a great year to change up choreo to thunderstruck...and change the song too for that matter.  ACDC sux!!  Change to baby I'm a star by Prince. Or something about a Ciwboy.  IMHO.

2) Still loathe Rachel W.  Would prefer savvy as a 2GL because she's not timid or fake or over the top humble.  A leader should be accepting of everyone. IMHO.

3)  For the love of God, entertain the crowd, not the field.  Players don't give a FF what they're doing.  JS.

Baby I’m a star GAG but everything else, I agree. But I’d keep thunderstruck. 

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10 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said:

The gauntlet has been thrown down at the "other" FB page. We better behave ourselves. Oh, and apparently, we're a "so-called" fans. 😄

"While most of our members are mature and have read the rules and follow them, some members (who often are members of another so-called “fan” group) are posting snide, thoughtless, inconsiderate and clearly inappropriate comments hoping to stir up some drama in our group. If you see such a comment, report it to us - once we review and find a comment clearly breaks our rules, the comment and the thread from that comment will be removed, and THE MEMBER(S) BANNED."

Isn't that the same group where the mod told everyone to "F off"?

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I'm not sure if I'm reading the sideline rules correctly (ie, if each broadcast network can have up to 46 "essential workers" on the sidelines, would CMT via CBS filming count as "essential" television production, or is the filming for major network broadcast of the games the only frontsideline "essential" work? *competing eye rolls*) but, as they obviously needed to get a lot of CMT filming in post-shutdown, I am wondering if they determined that having the women face the field on game day gave them the best or only perspective for shooting.

Whether it's just from this game or spliced from the next few and some hopefully better practices, I would imagine that The Triumphant Return of Football, Audiences, and AMERICA'S SWEETHEARTS, despite all odds and sense, will make for a Very Special Final Episode. No matter how many drives into the stadium bowels they have to make until they all remember to keep their masks on.

It seems like a poor choice, IMHO, but, perhaps, along with the need to have the "mirror" of the other deck at this point, they went with it for this game?

Maybe they'll figure out how to film them the other way or will do more in rehearsals and switch them around? (If they could get the shots they needed from the stands, though, it seems like the reverse would make more sense: aesthetically, it would be far more impactful to have the players behind them, and then, if they wanted images that also showed the triumphant return of the petri dish of fans, that would be a lot easier to film in an empty stadium and then digitally place as many fans as they're responsibly allowed to have, who are actually following protocol).

But maybe Kelli was counting on the magic of a first performance to override the hot mess of the show. But, we've seen her *clarity* on assessing actual performance level versus what she wants to see.

 

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1 hour ago, go4luca said:

I just don't see a reason to bring in rookies during a pandemic year where they won't be near the same capacity for performing or appearances.  They could easily do with a few less on the touchdown decks and allow for even more distancing.  If they brought in rookies and cut vets for drama, for me, that makes it even worse.  Other squads have made the choice to go with vets only and for me, that makes the most sense considering we still have a pandemic that won't be ending any time soon.  JMHO.

 

 

 

This would have shown real leadership, common sense & respect for seasoned vets.    Bringing in newbies, with 2 weeks of training camp experience over vets was insane.    They are not on the field,  rookies are still  "learning" routines.    I have lost all respect for DCC with this ridiculous move.  

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25 minutes ago, vlc said:

 

This would have shown real leadership, common sense & respect for seasoned vets.    Bringing in newbies, with 2 weeks of training camp experience over vets was insane.    They are not on the field,  rookies are still  "learning" routines.    I have lost all respect for DCC with this ridiculous move.  

I lost what teeny amount of respect I had for them when they cut Hannah and Brennan. 

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16 hours ago, lemonbus230 said:

You don’t cut veterans so that you can have shaky rookies. Based on those videos it’s evident Judy and Kelli made rash decisions that they now have to live with. Not that they care, I’m sure.

It reminds me of the weak 2017 rookies. Ugh what a nightmare that season was. 

12 minutes ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Hannah’s insta story 🙊

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That's exactly was DCC is. Toxic on the inside, glamorous on the outside. 

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2 hours ago, Muckypup61 said:

The gauntlet has been thrown down at the "other" FB page. We better behave ourselves. Oh, and apparently, we're  "so-called" fans. 😄

"While most of our members are mature and have read the rules and follow them, some members (who often are members of another so-called “fan” group) are posting snide, thoughtless, inconsiderate and clearly inappropriate comments hoping to stir up some drama in our group. If you see such a comment, report it to us - once we review and find a comment clearly breaks our rules, the comment and the thread from that comment will be removed, and THE MEMBER(S) BANNED."

They also had to turn off the comments when someone asked - I believe this is word for word.  "Why are the cheerleaders wearing masks?"  That was a fun thread - I can't find it now ... this was last night.

 

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1 hour ago, Teriyaki Terror said:

Who are the GL and 2nd GLs?

Maddie and Ashlee

Lexie and Amber

Gina and Caroline

Tess and Rachel W

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20 hours ago, vanillagum said:

Don't know where this would go, so sorry if this is too off-topic, but I'm genuinely curious, do you think girls/women legit need to have been lifelong dancers with years of training and experience on other NFL/cheerleading/dance teams in order to meet the demands of being a DCC? 

I know nothing about dance, but aside from good flexibility and some general dance technique, their moves seem pretty basic. I guess that background would especially come in handy when it comes to learning routines fast, but other things? Does someone need to have danced for 15 years to be a good DCC?

Excuse my ignorance; I've always wondered this. Would love any insight

Honestly, not at all. or rather, they don’t need to have experience because the actual dances are so complicated, but because this is a team and due to the nature of game day. So basically, you need to have stamina to last through the whole game, so yes it’d be rare for someone with no experience to have built up that kind of stamina unless they’ve been in some other kind of sport. Then of course it’s good to have some experience blending within a team but still performing well enough to be noticed without being distracting.

And also, what we’re talking about now with the decks and them not being able to see each other? A trained dancer who has performed multiple times, has had to dance without watching anyone in front of them. And when you’re in a team that rotates people at the front and center, you also get used to following their lead even if they are the ones to mess up. Hope it makes sense!

19 hours ago, AYTOfan said:

It is easy for us to say things but we should know that they are in a new enviorment. Give them some time and I am sure most of them, maybe all, will be much better with 1 or 2 games

They are supposed to be professional dancers though. They should be able to adapt to new performance areas... so it’s surprising that Alora messed up so badly when she has experience as a performer.

19 hours ago, ElectricBoogaloo said:

Knowing how little time they had before the first game, they should have just kept the team vets only so that everyone would know all the old dances and then they could have added a handful of new dances at rehearsal. Having the rookies learn a bunch of new dances in only three weeks and expecting them to keep them all straight in their heads is a lot to ask (especially since so many of the dances use the same repetitive movements which means it's easy to get mixed up - is this the dance where I do hip pumps twice and then toss my hair or is this the dance where I toss my hair and then do four hip pumps?).

To be fair, I didn’t see them struggle with the choreo. The main problem is that they didn’t know when to start dancing and that they couldn’t go all in. As in, I don’t think these two rookies would look as bad on the field, to me at least it was obvious that they didn’t want to go full out.

18 hours ago, lemonbus230 said:

You are correct! 

Why do they have 4 groups and 8 leaders for two decks? And which leader are they supposed to be following? Do they take turns calling the dances?

4 hours ago, Jazzhands said:

I agree with this.  Improving her core strength would significantly improve her dancing overall, especially in her preferred lyrical style. 
 

That said, I thought she looked good yesterday.  There was one kick I noticed that wasn’t great, but I’ve also heard that those decks are really slippery and they’re not used to dancing on them, so she gets a pass from me on that.  I didn’t realize immediately who it was, but I knew it was a veteran.  I thought she looked strong, sharp, confident, and fun to watch — far better than the two rookies next to her and the brunette vet who was the next down the line.  
 

I thought she was a mess her first season trying out and improved enough to make the team last year but in the bottom half of the group, but I was impressed by the clips from the game that were posted here.  She’s a tall, leggy East Texas blonde with big boobs and a big smile, and her dancing has noticeably improved.  I can’t see her joining the Rockettes or walking the runways in Milan, but selling tons of sideline calendars and posters in her DCC uniform?  Absolutely. She’s basically the DCC Barbie come to life. 

She did fall off three times from what i’ve seen. I didn’t see anyone else struggling with this, which is different from marking the moves or not knowing when to start dancing (& which combo). Victoria did get a lot better with controlling her moves, i’ll give her that.

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5 hours ago, AYTOfan said:

So I tried to make a visual with all the groups baised on what you the groups could look like. I placed the missing girls and tried to mix haircolour and skintone. I am probably have it wrong tho lol

 

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Wow, looking at this I noticed there aren't as many blondes this year! Good for TPTB for trying to switch it up a little more 😂

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3 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

They are supposed to be professional dancers though. They should be able to adapt to new performance areas... so it’s surprising that Alora messed up so badly when she has experience as a performer.

Nobody is perfect tho (singing the Jessie J song right away in my head lol) and you don't adapt right away. It is all new for them so it may take a game or 2 to get into it.

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4 minutes ago, Isolabella said:

Wow, looking at this I noticed there aren't as many blondes this year! Good for TPTB for trying to switch it up a little more 😂

It is like the 2016/2017 squad all over again 😂

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1 minute ago, dreamcatcher said:

She did fall off three times from what i’ve seen.

Are you saying that Victoria fell off the touchdown deck three times?  I didn’t watch the game and have only seen some clips posted on this site, but I didn’t see anyone fall off.   God knows I’ve expressed plenty of complaints about DCC management decisions, but I can’t believe that they’d keep the girls dancing up there if it’s that dangerous. 

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4 hours ago, go4luca said:

I just don't see a reason to bring in rookies during a pandemic year where they won't be near the same capacity for performing or appearances.  They could easily do with a few less on the touchdown decks and allow for even more distancing.  If they brought in rookies and cut vets for drama, for me, that makes it even worse.  Other squads have made the choice to go with vets only and for me, that makes the most sense considering we still have a pandemic that won't be ending any time soon.  JMHO.

 

 

TPTB only had one consideration and it wasn’t whats best for the team even tho thats what they always espouse. It was come hell or pandemic, they will make a show this year. 

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Part of me is thinking they had all summer to work through scenarios of what to do - if the cheerleaders can be on the field at all, if the cheerleaders are touchdown deck only, if not allowed at the stadium at all and just keep fingers crossed for private appearances or for things to be better after the season.  Sure, the cheerleaders exist because of the football team, but they obviously do a lot more off the field than on it.  

And then I look at what a shit show college football is right now, and how each NFL team seems to be treating their game day experience differently, and shrug...because while I do think they could have executed the dancing at the game much better than they did, dancing on the touchdown decks wasn't a terrible plan.  Just doesn't seem like they practiced it enough in the studio or the practice field.  I can see how it's a total cluster playing follow the leader in a straight line, though, which is why I think quarter changes/halftime/touchdown dancing only might have been a better choice.  Also keeps asses out of fan faces during game play.

I personally think a vet only team still would have made for great television, but likely only for a four part special of behind the scenes of how they're managing in a covid environment, the last minute changes as the NFL rules flex, etc.  And it's "making the team" after all, with the spin of having cheerleaders you root for or against all season. 

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2 hours ago, Manc.UK.DCCfan said:

Hannah’s insta story 🙊

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I like Hanna like everybody else, but if it was that bad why was she there two years and trying to make it to a third year?  I don't doubt anything she's saying, but she wanted to still be a DCC bad enough to risk what she felt was a dangerous situation so it couldn't have been all bad.  At this point she'd be better off not talking about it unless that lawsuit is coming.  And even then she should let her lawyer do the talking.  I wish her well and hope we see her again in some capacity, but bitterness can destroy a person.  Here's hoping she literally moves on and lives a blessed life.

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6 minutes ago, Weeklydcc said:

I like Hanna like everybody else, but if it was that bad why was she there two years and trying to make it to a third year?  I don't doubt anything she's saying, but she wanted to still be a DCC bad enough to risk what she felt was a dangerous situation so it couldn't have been all bad.  At this point she'd be better off not talking about it unless that lawsuit is coming.  And even then she should let her lawyer do the talking.  I wish her well and hope we see her again in some capacity, but bitterness can destroy a person.  Here's hoping she literally moves on and lives a blessed life.

The bubble had all the right adjustments otherwise they wouldnt even allowed to do it. That said, a infection can happen at any time and anywhere. If Hannah found it too health risking she could have chosen not to enter it. 

Hannah is a great dancer and didnt deserved to get cut over health concerns, altho we will never know what exactly got said. This just comes across petty and indeed

 

I know I will get backlash for saying this but okay 😂

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7 hours ago, go4luca said:

Vic dances heavy.  She always has.  She really needs to work on and develop, her core strength.

 

6 hours ago, Jazzhands said:

I agree with this.  Improving her core strength would significantly improve her dancing overall, especially in her preferred lyrical style.

That said, I thought she looked good yesterday.  There was one kick I noticed that wasn’t great, but I’ve also heard that those decks are really slippery and they’re not used to dancing on them, so she gets a pass from me on that. 

Victoria's mistake with that kick was not due to the decks being slippery. It's completely due to her lack of core strength combined with the bad technique she uses to make up for lack of said core strength. When you do a high kick, your entire torso should stay upright from the top of your head to bottom of your hips. If you look at someone doing a proper high kick from the side, the ONLY thing that moves is the leg. For once, all the Barbie references are apropos because if you held a Barbie doll and just raised her leg, that is exactly what a human dancer should look like when doing a high kick.

But what Victoria did was hunch her upper body over instead of engaging her core to stay upright. That is what caused her supporting leg to be off balance. If she had used proper technique, then her foot would have been in a straight line directly underneath her hips, shoulders, and head. But because she wasn't using core strength and correct technique, she pulled herself off balance. Her shoulders were forward, as was her supporting foot (which should have been right underneath her hips) and that's what caused her to be off balance. It had nothing to do with the deck. It's classic bad kick technique.

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1 hour ago, Jazzhands said:

Are you saying that Victoria fell off the touchdown deck three times?  I didn’t watch the game and have only seen some clips posted on this site, but I didn’t see anyone fall off.   God knows I’ve expressed plenty of complaints about DCC management decisions, but I can’t believe that they’d keep the girls dancing up there if it’s that dangerous. 

No but that mental image was funny! I’m just not sure how to describe it in english. Lost her balance? And couldn’t keep her position. I’ll try to find these on the videos!

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