S12.E16: Not Very Merry-achi

[Steph J]

Just now, SunnyBeBe said:

What about Leah has inspired respect in Dorinda?

She relates to having unprovoked rage?

I think Dorinda sees a lot of herself in Leah, but instead of seeing any of it as problematic, she sees those qualities as admirable because they're "real."

[chewycandy]

2 minutes ago, ichbin said:

If she did indeed hear it from friends who read it in Leah's blog, it would seem that Leah has already outed herself.

But she may not have shared that information with any of the ladies yet. While it may have been put out there on the internet by Leah herself, Ramona is using it as an excuse. It’s gross. 

[pieinmyeye]

2 minutes ago, janiema said:

Leah you do not appear to have your bipolar under control. Go back on your medication.

And get away from these housewives!

[jaybird2]

1 minute ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

The very last person who should be criticizing Ramona is Dorinda. Leah may have a reason to be upset about Ramona talking about her bipolar disorder - though her complete unwillingness to take any responsibility whatsoever for her truly atrocious behavior means she doesn't have the moral high ground - but Dorinda acting as if Ramona's behavior is even a fraction as bad she has been to the others is RIDICULOUS. 

i would love to give this 100 hearts

[eleanorofaquitaine]

3 minutes ago, ichbin said:

If she did indeed hear it from friends who read it in Leah's blog, it would seem that Leah has already outed herself.

It doesn't seem like Leah's hiding the fact that she has a bipolar disorder. That being said, I don't think it is really Ramona's place to talk about it - it should be up to Leah to tell them about it on camera, if she wants to.

That being said, Leah's behavior has been bad and Ramona has a right to be upset by it because Leah went off the rails at two events. Leah isn't impressing me with her inability to take responsibility for atrocious behavior. 

[mostlylurking]

How is Ramona gossiping about Leah being bipolar??  Leah wrote about it in a blog for public consumption. And if she’s not on meds well....she probably should be. 

[Mr. Miner]

I think I saw Sonja’s chubby 🐈.

[eleanorofaquitaine]

1 minute ago, Steph J said:

She relates to having unprovoked rage?

I think Dorinda sees a lot of herself in Leah, but instead of seeing any of it as problematic, she sees those qualities as admirable because they're "real."

This is the classic thing that narcissists do - they get really attached to someone, hold them up in this high esteem because they think that person somehow reflects positively on them. Then at some point, the person does something that upsets the narcissist, and suddenly, that person gets kicked to the curb. Once again, Dorinda is displaying the classic narcissists pattern. 

[Bronzedog]

1 minute ago, Mr. Miner said:

I think I saw Sonja’s chubby 🐈.

Sonja probably wanted you to.

[Keywestclubkid]

Why was Dorinda dressing her? soooo Dorinda in your passive aggressive backhanded way you just said that you think Leah's clothes are shit lol 

[SunnyBeBe]

Their inner Kyle Richards is breaking out........lol. 

[Thumper]

Leah :  “me and Ramona”.  Ackkkkkkkkkkkk!!!
 

Ramona:  “my 50 closest friends” 😂😂😂😂

Dorinda:  annoying, annoying, stirring the shit

I missed the first 25 minutes. 😁

 

[Mindthinkr]

Leah...it’s called a bridge and it is always legal in a game of 8 Ball billiards. 

[escape]

38 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

Outing someone’s mental health issues and dismissing someone because of it is so declasse, Ramona. Nice leggings and heels. 
Dorinda is right - Ramona wants youth and Leah has it. She said it was a celebration of herself, not Leah’s “body.” She knows the men her age want women Leah’s age and younger. 

Ramona didn't "out" anyone.   Leah has talked openly about being bi polar.  It's even on her website.  She has been drunk out of mind at all of Ramona's events.  She sold out 9 years of sobriety just to be on a TV show.  Her own mother won't even have anything to do with her. 

Edited July 31, 2020 by escape

[chewycandy]

7 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

How is Ramona gossiping about Leah being bipolar??  Leah wrote about it in a blog for public consumption. And if she’s not on meds well....she probably should be. 

That’s precisely what Ramona and her friend(s) were doing...gossiping about someone’s mental issues. I think it’s between Leah and her doctors whether she chooses to be on meds or not. 

[LibertarianSlut]

I can’t believe Ramona got her party at least partially comped, and still collected $100 off each guest for a gift.  I don’t know if the words “tacky” or “gauche” cover that.  

Leah has such a persecution complex.  She’s trying to throw Sonja under the bus as a reason why she shouldn’t be “in trouble” with Ramona “for dancing.”  As if only one person can be wrong at once.  Dorinda is just feeding into the complex by telling Leah that she has youth on her side.  I’m close to Leah in age, and “youthful” is not a word I’d use to describe myself or Leah.  Dorinda is just seeing things through her jealous lens.  Just because Dorinda was jealous of Tinsley’s “youth” doesn’t mean Ramona feels that way about Leah.  

I think Occam’s Razor would say that Ramona was willing to sit down and talk to Sonja because Ramona has decades of history with Sonja.  Sonja’s entire history with Ramona isn’t bogged down solely with drunken shenanigans.  If Ramona’s relationship with Sonja began with Sonja throwing tiki torches across Ramona’s lawn, maybe she’d get different treatment too.

Maybe Leah bounced from the salon so quickly because the convict thing hit a little too close to home.  

Maybe it was just the lighting of the store, or the display, but some of Sonja’s collection looked cute.  It reminded me of that line the Kardashians had in Sears awhile back.  

Dorinda sober is...nice.  I have to assume she was somewhat sober at Century21 and even when she first got to Cancun—she was acting like a good person, laughing and supporting Sonja and Ramona.  But when that voice starts to slur, and those arms go a flyin’, head for open waters.  

The property in Mexico is probably overall the nicest one they’ve been to IMO.  The place at which they stayed in Turks & Caicos looked like a fortress from the outside, and the place in St John was a bit too cold to me.  This was just drop dead.  

Luann flirting with the staff.  The more things change, the more they stay the same.  I’m just glad we are spared from hearing about Luann’s fracking “sobriety” this year.  

Leah can’t think of a more vulgar term than “chubby pussy”?  How about “desperate for dick” you pathetic wannabe?  On one hand, Ramona is old and out of touch, and on the other, she is so in her feelings that she’s being Ignored by Ramona.  As Heather DuBrow once said, “pick a lane.”  Bitch.  

[Straycat80]

If we took a shot every time Leah said ‘vagina’ this episode we’d all be as drunk as Sonja right now. 
And again STFU Dorinda, In regards to criticizing Sonja, how many drunken debacles has she caused, Sonja is at least a somewhat funny drunk whereas Dorinda is a mean, nasty drunk. 

[chewycandy]

Just now, escape said:

Ramona didn't "out" anyone - she never even mentioned it on camera.   Leah has talked openly about being bi polar.  It's even on her website.  She has been drunk out of mind at all of Ramona's events.  She sold out 9 years of sobriety just to be on a TV show.  Her own mother won't even have anything to do with her. 

Huh? Ramona told Sonja this on camera. And by outing, I mean talking about someone’s personal issues before that person has brought it out of their own volition. I don’t remember Leah mentioning being bipolar to the others this season. 

[Steph J]

"What behavior?"

REALLY LEAH? What behavior? C'mon.

[Keywestclubkid]

Drunk Sonja wasn't wrong ... shut up Dorinda and let Leah talk 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

I am sorry, but I think that Leah's "I just don't understand how anyone couldn't find my throwing around tiki torches, trashing Ramona's house, and grinding at Ramona's birthday party as anything but innocent fun" act all that convincing. 

Edited July 31, 2020 by eleanorofaquitaine

[Callaphera]

*crackle of a PA system turning on*

Your attention. Your attention, please. Could Ramona and Leah please climb down off the crosses they have attached themselves to? We need the wood for a weenie roast. Thank you.

*microphone feedback*

[chewycandy]

6 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Dorinda is just seeing things through her jealous lens.  Just because Dorinda was jealous of Tinsley’s “youth” doesn’t mean Ramona feels that way about Leah.  

But I think she does. Ramona can barely keep that seething anger contained. She has become very bitter over her lack of life partner. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

52 minutes ago, Straycat80 said:

Ugh, look at Dorinda taking the attention away from the Fortune Society ladies. And Leah starting to fight with Ramona. What selfish bitches. 

Sonja scarfing down the food, then discarding it (for the cameras, anyway)!  Horrible!

[SunnyBeBe]

I used to have a dear friend who always had to the center of attention. She’d get it one way or another. Sitting in the lap of her husband’s friend, disrobing at a party, dancing on the bar at an office party, etc. It was shocking, yet expected. That’s who she was. I suspect it was due to childhood trauma. Makes me wonder about Leah. And Sonya to a certain extent. 

[tranquilidade]

Why is Ramona on WWHL so lucid?  hmmmmm.

[ichbin]

Sure, Sonja.  Your schmattas filled the entire store.  

Did the chefs hit up Sam's Club first?  I buy the Kale salad there all the time.  

Interesting that Elyse was not included, not even mentioned.  If it is true that she was supposed to have been a "housewife" when they began filming this season I guess whatever soured that happened before the Mexico trip.

 

 

 

 

[esco1822]

I just want to point out that Leah’s dress had a sewn-in body suit so it’s pretty unlikely she was flashing her vagina. I personally didn’t find her dancing offensive and apparently neither did the other girls who joined right in. She gets drunk and goes off the rails but Ramona’s birthday party didn’t bother me at all. Ramona has also completely ignored her up until that point so maybe getting a little provocative was her way to get Ramona’s attention.

[ichbin]

4 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Sonja scarfing down the food, then discarding it (for the cameras, anyway)!  Horrible!

Did I see her pop something in her mouth that she picked up out of the sheets?

[escape]

25 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

What about Leah has inspired respect in Dorinda?  I normally like Dorinda but she’s full of it. THAT I do not believe. 

Because Leah is scared of Dorinda and never calls her out on anything.  She definitely didn't have Tinsley's back.  But we know Dorinda has a pattern of going after people - Sonja, Luann, Tinsley, Ramona.  It's only a matter of time Leah will face Dorinda's drunken rage.

[jaybird2]

4 minutes ago, ichbin said:

Did I see her pop something in her mouth that she picked up out of the sheets?

yes you did

[chewycandy]

6 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

I just want to point out that Leah’s dress had a sewn-in body suit so it’s pretty unlikely she was flashing her vagina. I personally didn’t find her dancing offensive and apparently neither did the other girls who joined right in. 

I was beginning to feel completely alone, lol. Leah has a lot of fans off of these boards and Brad Goreski just said on WWHL he thinks Leah has been a great addition. Ramona is going the way of Vicki from OC, and if she keeps up the shaming and the OG diva behavior her apple might be in danger, I feel. 

Edited July 31, 2020 by chewycandy

[pieinmyeye]

I don’t understand why it’s so difficult for Ramona to tell Leah why she’s upset with her. Damn woman, just spit it out. I guess doing that wouldn’t be dramatic enough. Silly me.

[gatopretoNYC]

57 minutes ago, Ms. Me said:

LOL- What is that green vest thing Dorinda is wearing!?

That was so fugly. Hideous.

[LibertarianSlut]

Leah is such a child.  She craves attention like one.  Who gives a shit if Ramona isn’t talking to you, and if you do give a shit, grow up and talk to her like a person.  Leah is a public figure who wrote a blog about her mental illness and it’s been hotly debated here whether she showed “her vagina” at the party.  Her vulva was blurred.  Why wouldn’t or shouldn’t anyone talk about either of those things?

Leah is like Kelly Dodd over on OC—exposing her child to way too many personal adult issues that are none of her business.

Luann, is English your first language?  Sonja’s in the bag and this is like wrangling cats?  Is “in the bag” like twice as drunk as “half in the bag”?  Because I might agree with her there.  Though I don’t think Sonja getting her hair done naked in a private home is comparable to humping at a birthday party of 50 when the guest of honor objects.  

I sort of detest Luann this season.  She is a sneaky stirrer, she is not intelligent at all, and she just wants other people to fight so that they can keep this shit show going, but she’s not willing to get into it unless she’s completely wasted, like she was in the Berkshires.  I think it’s time to demote her to friend of again.  She’s not really pulling her weight.  

Ramona is not gifted in the art of argument.  But she is good at bobbing and weaving when situations arise.  I think the ability to ignore and walk away is one of the most powerful things in the world.  Leah was itching for a fight, and she barely got one.  No one needs to stop talking about Leah’s “pussy” if they don’t want to.  She has this very entitled attitude that I notice amongst millennials (and I’m younger than her, so I feel like I can make generalizations about my own generation, and if others want to disagree, I’m totally cool with that) where she feels like she has some right to control the conversation and the words people speak.  Bitch, have several seats.  The only “right” you have in this environment is to keep people out of your physical space.  She doesn’t get to control the narrative just because.  I loathe people like her.  

Although, I guess I should feel bad for Leah.  She is crazy, no one wants her pussy, and everyone is talking about it.  I hope her sick ass gets the boot from this series more than anyone else.  If she’s not actually on meds, perhaps she should get herself to a doctor.  No one is able to sustain themselves in society like this.  Whatever little voice in her head told her it was ok to begin drinking again after nine years needs to be quieted. 

[Chit Chat]

17 minutes ago, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I am sorry, but I think that Leah's "I just don't understand how anyone couldn't find my throwing around tiki torches, trashing Ramona's house, and grinding at Ramona's birthday party as anything but innocent fun" act all that convincing. 

Was LuAnn drunk at Ramona's party and that's why she can't remember Leah grinding on her?  I agree with Ramona:  Leah is the only one talking about her vagina.  

I didn't see anything wrong with Ramona relaying the info about Leah being bi-polar to Sonja.  She wasn't saying it in a hateful or judgmental way.  She was merely pointing out that Leah shouldn't mix her meds with alcohol.  I didn't find that conversation offensive at all.  

[mostlylurking]

21 minutes ago, chewycandy said:

hat’s precisely what Ramona and her friend(s) were doing...gossiping about someone’s mental issues. I think it’s between Leah and her doctors whether she chooses to be on meds or not. 

I 100% agree with you that it’s between her and her doctors.  I also know people who are bipolar and they must take meds to regulate themselves, and every now and then those meds need to be changed because they stop working. Maybe Leah feels she is perfectly fine without meds and that’s great for her. Either way, I just find her exhausting and a try hard. 

[Chit Chat]

I'm wondering if LuAnn actually helped foot the bill for those women at the salon/spa.  They kept thanking  her over and over again, but after seeing LuAnn at the fashion show where she sat down and asked one of the stylists to fix her hair (for free,)  I have no doubt that she gladly let someone else foot the bill for this charitable event.  Kadooz to her for organizing it though.  I'll eat my words if she actually ponied up some money for it.  Most importantly though, those ladies did seem to enjoy their day, and that's all that matters.

[gatopretoNYC]

How was that a spa day? That wasn't a spa - it was a hair salon. Que bosta, Luann.

[tranquilidade]

How odd.  I thought bipolar disorder required lifetime meds.  I never heard of someone getting over it.

 

 

[esco1822]

5 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

I didn't see anything wrong with Ramona relaying the info about Leah being bi-polar to Sonja.  She wasn't saying it in a hateful or judgmental way.  She was merely pointing out that Leah shouldn't mix her meds with alcohol.  I didn't find that conversation offensive at all.  

Everything Ramona does is done in a judgmental way. She made judgements that Leah mixing alcohol and being bipolar was the reason for her bad behavior. Per Leah, she’s not on medication so her behavior was Leah being Leah, and Ramona constantly judges Leah. Unless Ramona became a psychiatrist and is has read Leah’s medical charts, she should be keeping her mouth shut about her mental health treatment.

[LibertarianSlut]

1 hour ago, janiema said:

Bravo, get rid of Leah. She is quite the disgusting person. She does cheapen everything she touches.

Yes.  She also cheapens everything she torches.  

[Chit Chat]

5 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

Maybe Leah feels she is perfectly fine without meds and that’s great for her.

Speaking as someone with a family member with mental issues,  it's when one thinks they're "perfectly fine" and comes off the meds that usually causes the biggest crash.  Then it can take a long time to get them back to some semblance of normalcy.  I'm not saying that I know what's best for Leah, but I do hope she's getting the help she needs so that she doesn't end up in a downward spiral.  It's a really tough thing to witness.  

[Keywestclubkid]

2 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

Everything Ramona does is done in a judgmental way. She made judgements that Leah mixing alcohol and being bipolar was the reason for her bad behavior. Per Leah, she’s not on medication so her behavior was Leah being Leah, and Ramona constantly judges Leah. Unless Ramona became a psychiatrist and is has read Leah’s medical charts, she should be keeping her mouth shut about her mental health treatment.

Drinking alcohol can increase the severity of your symptoms. Alcohol and bipolar have an interesting relationship. As noted above, the impulsivity and risk-taking of bipolar can lead to alcoholism. However, a reverse relationship is also present – alcoholism can increase the severity of bipolar symptoms. Individuals with bipolar who drink alcohol have been found to be more violent, more impulsive, and more likely to engage in other types of substance abuse. In addition, they present with more manic symptoms than individuals with bipolar who do not drink alcohol.[ii] For this reason, drinking alcohol, even responsibly, is a big risk.

https://www.clearviewtreatment.com/blog/can-drink-alcohol-bipolar-disorder/

[tranquilidade]

I like Leah. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

So over Leah since last week. 

I love Luann's blue dress.  She looks great.

Something about Ramona that drives me nuts is that every trip when Sonja is blackout drunk, Ramona acts like it's not happening and that Sonja should just participate in everything anyway.  Sonja should definitely go to sleep.

Sonja's fucking a New York Ranger????? LOL I want the goss!

Edited July 31, 2020 by Ms Blue Jay

[esco1822]

3 minutes ago, tranquilidade said:

 

How odd.  I thought bipolar disorder required lifetime meds.  I never heard of someone getting over it.

 

 

I’m not a psychiatrist so I can’t really say but I do know that bipolar 1 is different from bipolar 2 so maybe treatment and prognosis is as well. My sister is bipolar 2 and it’s very easy to tell when she is not on her meds. I can’t say the same for Leah but I don’t know her or her behavior patterns well enough.

[Chit Chat]

5 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

She made judgements that Leah mixing alcohol and being bipolar was the reason for her bad behavior. Per Leah, she’s not on medication so her behavior was Leah being Leah, and Ramona constantly judges Leah.

I would've assumed the same thing.  If that's Leah just being Leah, well damn, I wouldn't want to be around her either when she's drinking. 

[Rahul]

Ramona is trash for casting aspersions on Leah's mental health. This is the 21st fucking century and mental illness shouldn't be stigmatized over any other somatic disorder.

How has Sonja not been sued already for rebranding AliExpress goods and selling them second hand at Century 21?   

[Ms Blue Jay]

Something about Dorinda screaming "Crop top?  DING!  You're a Whore!"  was really funny.  I have to admit it.