CailynA August 19, 2020 Share August 19, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 9:40 PM, AnimeMania said: I hated that Klaus wouldn't even help Allison and Ray roll up the dead body in the rug. He just sat on the couch and watched. See and I thought it was hilarious bc it's just so Klaus On 8/15/2020 at 11:19 PM, phoenics said: Probably because when Five has killed - it's always part of a plan to stop the Apocalypse. There is a difference between a hired assassin who is killing solely to stop an apocalypse and Vanya's killing (I didn't mind her taking out the agents at the Farm or the police or FBI). I think we're supposed to think Five is kind of an asshole - but he's a necessary one to stop the end of the world. He never comes off as self-centered or selfish - his sole focus for 2 seasons has been averting the end of the world. But even Five doesn't get enough of a storyline for us to even fully understand him - he's like a point guard on the show - he facilitates the stories of the other characters but we never really learn much about him. Vanya, unfortunately, is the reason for the apocalypse. It's like the writers make her sociopathic, but they want us to like her and empathize with her, so they create plot armor for her that no other character gets to excuse her actions and let her off without actual redemption. I just have a hard time seeing Vanya as anything more than a mass shooting archetype. To be fair, none of the characters are ever really held to any kind of real good/bad standard - everyone kills, etc.. I think the only one who actively attempts to turn away from her powers because she recognizes they are inherently not good is Allison. See I don't think Five was told the killings he was assigned were to stop the apocalypse, I thought he was merely told they were to maintain the timeline. The whole reason he skipped out on his contract with the Commission and went back was to avert the apocalypse. 5 Link to comment
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