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Most of these shows have become wash and repeat .... just like RHOBH takes one thing (the girls ganging up on one person for some perceived slight) and runs it into the ground the whole season ... This show is they all get drunk scream at each other for 45min then forgive each other until the next episode where they get drunk scream at each other for 45min and make up ..... its becoming tedious  ... how many season can Dorinda be a drunk bully or Luanne be an obnoxious "star" or Ramona be deluded into thinking she is the upper crust of the society world... there is absolutely no differentiation from season to season ... its the same fight over the same shit just repackaged ...Bravo just keeps giving us the same thing drunkin 60+yo women screaming at each other over Nothing only now they added toilet humor and random sad geriatric booty calls to it...These woman arnt getting it we arnt watching this show because we are Jealous of their life or want to be them or getting a peek into lives we wished we lived ( I'm sorry Ramona no one in the upper 1% would be caught dead doing a show like this point blank period or want to be with a woman acting so desperate to social climb esp at your age & most of us lived though the drinking parting days in our teens and 20s so nothing new there), we are watching it because they have become a spectacle a caricature of themselves that's more like a train wreck to be gawked at then envied ... they are a joke ( and they don't seem to be in on it) and Bravo is laughing all the way to the bank with it

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Sonja suddenly looks so old 😞 She looks much better in her quarantine talking heads but in the episode she has those little saggy bits under her jaw and her eyes look weird. Ramona's eyes look weird too. Her lashes are always askew and that drives me crazy. Take them off, get some Voluminous and call it a day already.

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I think Sonja lost a lot of weight which affected here appearance in the Talking Heads.  She also may have gotten dental work and perhaps more on the face who knows.  She was also sober in the Talking Heads and sounded very different.  I think they all take mood altering drugs and combined with alcohol this gives us the bizarre behavior we see.  It just can't all be alcohol intoxication with no residual hangover the next day, just refreshed sleep with no memories!

 

What gets me about Dorinda and the comment on the mugshot--I thought she was sorry for that in her last fight with Luanne.  Their apologies are meaningless and just a vehicle to keep the show going which I understand, but this then makes me   wonder if that big fight with Sonja was planned and all an act to make big drama since Luanne was fake crying then stormed out to a PUB! There was no connection between the scenes to explain what happened as one poster pointed out and sketchy details that wrapped it up the next day.  I don't know how Luanne go all her clothing in those two small bags as she seems to have shown she had a lot of different outfits.  Luanne's anger escalation didn't even make sense as she launched into hateful remarks that were over the top.   I wonder if they just wanted to have a big fight for the cameras and then laugh about the drama the next day because it all seemed very unnatural to me.

PS: I just watched it again and saw that Luanne did in fact have that blue jacket in the Jovani bag.  I was wrong on that point.

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13 hours ago, Straycat80 said:

They should put CC on Dorinda and Sonja, they are slurring their speech so bad.

Yes.  I had to turn my volume up to 70 and still couldn't really understand them.

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This show has become so meta; it's like they aren't even pretending anymore -- it's just straight up, garden variety narcissism + master thespianism with a very half hearted (quarter hearted) attempt to weave some story around it.

We rich, pampered women need (yet another) a break! (no you don't).

Hey waitasec audience -- one of the women has an idea!  Let's go on a vacation/getaway/weekend away so we can get our much needed breaks.  That we film (so breaky!) with people we'd never normally vacation with, or even lunch with.  The more outlandish the behavior, the better!

Luann's crying sounds:

Ugga ugga ugga....wheeeeeze. 

Jel's tv watchin sounds:

What the hell was that? 

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13 hours ago, Golden Girl said:

I am so embarrassed for all of them 😳

I'm not because they are never embarrassed for themselves.  They watch these episodes and don't care and do the same drunken antics over and over.  The next day they are all huggy/kissy and blame it on the wine (and vodka which wasn't mentioned).  Dorinda brings up Jovani and the mug shot again so obviously she's still pissed about Jovani and the mug shot is her go-to to throw at Luanne.    

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12 hours ago, funnygirl said:

After catching up and watching both new episodes today, RHONY is so much more entertaining than RHOBH. The Apples may be chaotic especially when alcohol is involved, but at least they don't obsess over one stupid issue for an entire season. And they actually eat their food! (albeit messy)

YMMV

This has always been my favorite, but this year is bad. I cannot stand Leah, she ruins it for me and I don't tune into any of these shows to see them de with stopped up toilets. Gross.

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One thing I will say in favor of Leah is that she is not mean to anyone and handles criticism with confidence.  I can see why she was selected for the show.  She is willing to go to any length with zany behavior that is beyond anything on the show before.  

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4 hours ago, nexxie said:

I thought about that too - hopefully Len or someone in production would make sure he got a good tip.

Maybe she tipped in the app when she paid, since no money was exchanged at delivery. With Covid, I do that with any delivery app. If I can't tip that way, I don't use them.

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1 hour ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Most of these shows have become wash and repeat .... just like RHOBH takes one thing (the girls ganging up on one person for some perceived slight) and runs it into the ground the whole season ... This show is they all get drunk scream at each other for 45min then forgive each other until the next episode where they get drunk scream at each other for 45min and make up ..... its becoming tedious  ... how many season can Dorinda be a drunk bully or Luanne be an obnoxious "star" or Ramona be deluded into thinking she is the upper crust of the society world... there is absolutely no differentiation from season to season ... its the same fight over the same shit just repackaged ...Bravo just keeps giving us the same thing drunkin 60+yo women screaming at each other over Nothing only now they added toilet humor and random sad geriatric booty calls to it...These woman arnt getting it we arnt watching this show because we are Jealous of their life or want to be them or getting a peek into lives we wished we lived ( I'm sorry Ramona no one in the upper 1% would be caught dead doing a show like this point blank period or want to be with a woman acting so desperate to social climb esp at your age & most of us lived though the drinking parting days in our teens and 20s so nothing new there), we are watching it because they have become a spectacle a caricature of themselves that's more like a train wreck to be gawked at then envied ... they are a joke ( and they don't seem to be in on it) and Bravo is laughing all the way to the bank with it

I am also watching because I know that once the already filmed HW shows are finished, there won't be any new ones for a very long time. No Southern Charms on the horizon either. I have been watching OC, NY and BH since their first seasons so it just seems right to watch what us likely their last season, at least for a couple of years.

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40 minutes ago, chlban said:

I am also watching because I know that once the already filmed HW shows are finished, there won't be any new ones for a very long time. No Southern Charms on the horizon either. I have been watching OC, NY and BH since their first seasons so it just seems right to watch what us likely their last season, at least for a couple of years.

Hopefully if this does come back they rework it so its not geared towards the lowest common denominator ....when this show started it was so different then they just went low is what I am saying

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3 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

No way would the fancy pants Red Lion let them film there. Old guard money central. 

They filmed a dinner at the Red Lion on the first trip iirc to the Berkshires.  I remember thinking they must be in dire straits to let them film there.

They also filmed at Wheatleigh, the dinner scene about Luann having to stay in the fish room.

There is a library looking building in between Nejaimes and the Red Lion Inn. It was originally a church, then the first location of Alice's Restaurant.

Nejaimes sure has changed, it used to be a grocery/lunch counter store, made very famous by Norman Rockwell.

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14 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Leah to Luann:  “Let’s go to a pub.”  Worst idea ever.  Having said that, why weren’t cameras there?!?!?

I imagine word got out about how they behave in public, at dinner, with alcohol. And, with no notice, it's harder to cordon off an area for the HWs to scream drunken insults at each other without offending and driving out the regulars.

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6 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

I imagine word got out about how they behave in public, at dinner, with alcohol. And, with no notice, it's harder to cordon off an area for the HWs to scream drunken insults at each other without offending and driving out the regulars.

^^^ like I said in a old post about when they film down here in Key west A LOT of places wont let them film because of the chaos and bad look it gives the business.... they flat out refuse  

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3 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

I also would've liked to have seen Luanne not let Dorinda off the hook the next day.  How would Dorinda have reacted?  

I would have liked all of them to surround Dorinda, tell her how mean she is, and not let her off the hook at all.  It’s in her to be mean and a bully.  I doubt she would have lasted with Mr. Medley.  She keeps throwing roses at herself.  She’s the best hostess, the best friend, the best cook, the best decorator, blah, blah, blah.  Hi John.  How ya doin?

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It's very sad to see Sonja get so drunk that she keeps falling off her chair. Why do the cameras continue to show her stuffing her face with food ? It's rude. I used to love the Blue Stone Manor episodes because Dorinda was a gracious host. Dorinda has become very mean & I don't know why the other housewives don't tell her to calm down & stop bullying people.

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3 hours ago, 65mickey said:

Luann. and Sonja must really need this job. They put up with Dorinda's nasty behavior and then the next day they kiss her ass like nothing happened. The only thing that I can figure is that to them Dorinda is the new Bethenny. They are afraid of her.  She must be appeased and fawned over at all costs or she will see that they are cut loose. How does she see herself on TV and not die of embarrassment?

Luann and Dorinda have been friends for over a decade, so I can understand Luann would put up more from her than anyone else. Also, Luann is coming off being the "villain" of last season while Dorinda has been steady as a fan favorite since she joined the show, so I bet Luann is thinking twice about going toe to toe with her. After all the backlash Dorinda has been receiving this season, I bet Luann will not be as intimidated by her. I actually don't know why people aren't scared of Luann, no shade but if it came physical (which like someone mentioned earlier it seemed like they were about to) I'd put all my money on the Countess. 

 

1 hour ago, coops said:

The fact Dorinda has somehow managed to avoid getting a mugshot is literally mindboggling and should have it's own episode dedicated to it on netflix's unsolved mysteries.

Because as much as I (still) love Dorinda and as much as she says she takes care of everyone around her, I think it's quite the opposite. We've seen in some episodes how John escorted her out when she's getting out of control, Bethenny helped her when she cut her hand and I bet Richard was also a support system. One thing I'll say for Leah and Luann is that as irresponsible and privileged as they are, at least they went through it by themselves, it seems to me that Dorinda would crumble in that situation. 

 

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1 hour ago, Silver Bells said:

I would have liked all of them to surround Dorinda, tell her how mean she is, and not let her off the hook at all.  It’s in her to be mean and a bully.  I doubt she would have lasted with Mr. Medley.  She keeps throwing roses at herself.  She’s the best hostess, the best friend, the best cook, the best decorator, blah, blah, blah.  Hi John.  How ya doin?

He’d husband died of a liver disease...I suspect alcohol likely played a role in her marriage.   I liked Dorinda in her first season, but her blow ups have escalated every season.  Bethenny is the only one whom has been able to call her out.

I honestly don’t think Dorinda gives a shit about any of the ladies, but will pretend to in order to rally her coalition against Ramona.  Ramona sucks on so many levels, but I can’t imagine the show without her.  

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2 hours ago, OFDgal said:

I'm not because they are never embarrassed for themselves.  They watch these episodes and don't care and do the same drunken antics over and over.  The next day they are all huggy/kissy and blame it on the wine (and vodka which wasn't mentioned).  Dorinda brings up Jovani and the mug shot again so obviously she's still pissed about Jovani and the mug shot is her go-to to throw at Luanne.    

They probably tell their daughters “oh, we have to be outrageous for the show .. it’s all an act”.  But, I really think they are how they appear, especially Dorinda, Sonja and Ramona.  Maybe not so much LuAnn, although she did threaten the cop and get arrested.  Someone said Ramona frequents bars and picks up guys to have sex with.  That really surprises me.  I thought she was different.  In fact, coming from upper Manhattan, I thought they would have a little more class.  All of them.

 

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Wouldn’t it be fun for Bravo to do a Pillow Talk type of show where housewives from other shows watched and commented?  I would watch that for sure. 
(haven’t read all the comments yet so sorry if someone has already had the idea)

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16 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Did she just pull a turd out and put it in the trash? 

Freaking Ramona.  She doesn't know how to use a plunger?  Someone should introduce her to the concept of Google.  She could learn really fast.  And, Leah is all cool with helping her until she sees the turdlet.  I mean, she had to know what was gonna be in there right?  The whole thing was so gross and stupid.

Heather's husband is so nice.  That was him who got up to help Sonja with her chair while Ramona was having her top 1% anti-online dating tiny penis conversation right?

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1 hour ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

I was honestly socked at the condition of Richards grave. No headstone or memorial to this great love of her life. That marker was one step up from Potters Field.

I'm wondering if that was the military footstone.  It appeared to be inscribed with his military info.  We're waiting on one for my FIL's grave.  IIRC from the pictures we were shown, it will look similar to Richard's.  She probably doesn't want the headstone filmed so as not to attract loonies that might vandalize it.  

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10 minutes ago, PradaKitty said:

It really is beyond me how someone can be in their ‘60’s and never used a plunger.

Seriously!  She needed to put some "oomph" into the plunger.  Lightly pushing on it doesn't always do the job!!  😉  

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4 hours ago, Keywestclubkid said:

Most of these shows have become wash and repeat .... just like RHOBH takes one thing (the girls ganging up on one person for some perceived slight) and runs it into the ground the whole season ... This show is they all get drunk scream at each other for 45min then forgive each other until the next episode where they get drunk scream at each other for 45min and make up ..... its becoming tedious  ... how many season can Dorinda be a drunk bully or Luanne be an obnoxious "star" or Ramona be deluded into thinking she is the upper crust of the society world... there is absolutely no differentiation from season to season ... its the same fight over the same shit just repackaged ...Bravo just keeps giving us the same thing drunkin 60+yo women screaming at each other over Nothing only now they added toilet humor and random sad geriatric booty calls to it...These woman arnt getting it we arnt watching this show because we are Jealous of their life or want to be them or getting a peek into lives we wished we lived ( I'm sorry Ramona no one in the upper 1% would be caught dead doing a show like this point blank period or want to be with a woman acting so desperate to social climb esp at your age & most of us lived though the drinking parting days in our teens and 20s so nothing new there), we are watching it because they have become a spectacle a caricature of themselves that's more like a train wreck to be gawked at then envied ... they are a joke ( and they don't seem to be in on it) and Bravo is laughing all the way to the bank with it

Yeah, and Andy is lovin every minute of it.  He loves when they act all crazy.  I was going to watch WWHL, but I can’t stomach Dorinda and that other guy.  Was Dorinda proud of herself in that episode?  Probably yes.

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37 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Yeah, and Andy is lovin every minute of it.  He loves when they act all crazy.  I was going to watch WWHL, but I can’t stomach Dorinda and that other guy.  Was Dorinda proud of herself in that episode?  Probably yes.

Yea I saw it was gonna be Dorinda on and turned it... how they are not mortified watching themselves on this show is beyond me. Are they that self deluded to think they are actually coming across well? 

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Just now, Keywestclubkid said:

Are they that self deluded to think they actually coming across well? 

Either that or they just don't give a damn.  I suppose as long as they're making money, they don't care how they look!  It's really sad to me that they've all sunk so low with this show.  It's really not enjoyable anymore.   

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I am only one minute into the show and I am already appalled. What in gods name is Dorinda wearing? The thigh high boots and the gold lame short dress...am I too critical? If she were a nicer person and treated people better, I wouldn’t pick her apart like thisIf she were a nicer person and treated people better, I wouldn’t pick her apart like this

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10 minutes ago, ChitChat said:

Either that or they just don't give a damn.  I suppose as long as they're making money, they don't care how they look!  It's really sad to me that they've all sunk so low with this show.  It's really not enjoyable anymore.   

Yea at this point if I miss an episode it’s not that big a deal and most of the time it comes across more “hate” watching then anything... the coddling of Sonja and Dorindas drinking the coddling of Luannes ego .. Ramona not being told that she’s not gonna find a man that respects or wants to be with her seeing how she trolls for dick on this show... at this point I’m glad Tins got the heck out of dodge 

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This episode was the epitome of various shades of drunkeness...

Sonja: Sloppy drunk 

Dorinda: Mean drunk

Leah: Crazy drunk

Elyse: WTF was that drunk

Ramona: Just drunk enough but able to stand on her feet

LuAnn: Drama Queen drunk

Dorinda is just out of control...if she's in such pain she needs to quit the show, get into some serious psycho therapy, quit drinking and pull herself together and apologize to everyone she has attacked when having one of her alcohol fueled ragers.

Leah is nuts...there's something disturbing about her behavior that goes well beyond being wild and crazy. Some role modeling for her young daughter. 

I don't think I've seen one episode of this show this season where she hasn't been falling down drunk, slurring her words, stuffing her face with food and making a fool of herself. 

Ramona continues to brag on herself and her wealth...OMG! She's a one percenter??? She makes that much money? Really??? What an obnoxious asshole she is. Last week she was bragging about her "50 best friends" this week it's back to all the money she has and her two homes. From what I know, one percenters have five or six homes...just sayin'. STFU Ramona.

LuAnn....shocker...she's back to getting wasted. 

Elyse/Erica: "Partying" equals faux lesbian foreplay.

 

 

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1 hour ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

I was honestly socked at the condition of Richards grave. No headstone or memorial to this great love of her life. That marker was one step up from Potters Field.

I was, too. I bet his family, friends, and colleagues did a collective WTAF when he first brought her around. And while she was likely on her best behavior around them, there's still something rather coarse about her and her table manners need work. I was glad to see the Missoni cape, however, that I've been coveting since I first laid eyes on it in a previous season. Unlike Dorinda, that one's a keeper.

I still love Sonja but would like to see her tone it down. I also think some of her antics are a joke, like falling off the chair. Last night's fall was kind of aerobatic. She also may have a lower tolerance for alcohol because I think she detoxes at a spa after each season and doesn't drink like that in real life. This show is kind of her cabaret.

Luann is back to being The Countess again, which is so not good. And what a bad actor. That crying was so fake a blind man would have been able to see she had no tears. 

 

 

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And then they are drunk...Leah tries to dry hump or give a lap dance to Lu, kisses Elyse or was it Erica?  Leah had to announce she has her period but yet will sleep with the bartender she invited over...Dorinda was pissed at Tins for getting a drop of marina on the sheets can you imagine the mess on those 500 thread counts?!

See why I say I could not be friends with Leah, she is too close, too coarse, too drunk.

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10 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

Shocking, I thought her relationship with Avery was the only good one in her life.  What does she say about her?

It’s hard to remember everything, but the tone of the book was just very different from the kid glove treatment she gives Avery on the show, like she’s not afraid to throw her under the bus to make a point.  She’ll write how she would roll her eyes at the way Avery filmed a scene, and how she’d tell her she’s wrong, or she’ll report that she had to lie to Avery to tell her she was right when she was wrong, she lies to Avery about her marriage, she’s no holds barred telling us things Avery said in anger, like screaming “fuck you” to Mario, things that seem like none of our business.  She plays Avery against Mario and tells her to tell him things to make him feel bad.  Ramona blames Avery for the fact that she came off boring in season two.  

Maybe it’s not so much of Ramona coming for Avery, but she reveals things that I would have thought she would protect her from if I hadn’t read the book.  She says Avery was struggling at college and that her best friend dumped her.  She publishes a six page letter Avery wrote to Mario about his bad behavior.  I’m sure it was with Avery’s permission, but it felt very exploitative to me.  I’d be mortified if my mom put any of this stuff in a book, let alone all of it.  

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Okie Dokie: Ramona is an idiot, Dorinda is a drunk, Sonja is a drunk, and Luann is a drunk, and Leigha is horny. 
 
Did Ramona seriously insinuate that Mario couldn’t get his small penis up due to jealousy because Ramona made more money than he did?! 🤪

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36 minutes ago, Mar said:

Sonja: I’m in the Blue Book (social register for the upper crust) because I’m a Morgan!

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And then there’s this. Such a classy group of women.

 

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I haven’t read the other comments here yet, so maybe someone has already mentioned the fact that Dorinda got physical with Luanne when Luanne was leaving the house with her suitcase. 100% unacceptable. She needs to be taken off the show. 

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Several of these women have serious drinking problems and/or serious narcissistic tendencies - imo it would be a whole lot more interesting to see them sober and in therapy at one of those full-service places in Utah or wherever. I know it won’t happen of course.

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What a pathetic performance. What healthy available person, male or female, would want to hang around these women.

Jeez Dorinda. Historic Dorinda - the cultured, traveled, monied 1%’er. Present Day Dorinda – gutter mouth, rabid, bipolar, nasty biker bar behavior. 

If not sincerely nuts, how can they continue filming the excess drinking after seeing their behavior?

Would be nice to see this format morph into something interesting and positive, with authentic drama. Bet ya a dollar there are interesting women, doing interesting things, that are good for humanity who would appreciate the spotlight on their business/charity/interests without the shit show. Bravo and Andy would give it a thumbs down, but maybe another platform.

 

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8 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I died when they went from "is that a chocolate turkey?" To good ol Ramona plunging the toilet. LOL  🍫

Dammit of all days to read this board while eating a Reese’s peanut butter cup.

As messy as Ramona is, it’s weird to see her being the relatively classy one.  I bet it’s a put on to impress her wealthy ‘50 best friends’

I know this was filmed pre-pandemic, but I still cringed to see them picking from the communal Chinese food containers with their fingers.

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Dorinda: she "waitressed her whole life" to get out of the Berkshires, and "told on everyone and brown nosed" her "way to the top". Dorinda as the workplace snitch and backstabber seems on brand with her current toxic personality.

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1 hour ago, BrownBear2012 said:

From what I know, one percenters have five or six homes...just sayin'. STFU Ramona.

I have no problem believing Ramona is a one percenter.  I think I’m a one percenter and my balance sheet is probably somewhere slightly higher than Sonja’s and slightly lower than Len’s. 

I used to apply the definition of “one percenter” to Americans, but then I heard clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson do a podcast wherein he asked why we should not use the entire world when we are gauging who is the one percent.  He said it might be convenient to draw the line around Americans, but there’s no reason not to include the rest of the world, and that changed my thinking about the whole situation. 

Having said that, I don’t think Ramona is rolling in as much dough as she wants us to think she is.  I’m not even sure if she’s particularly rich. But I would bet money that she’s in the top one percent of earners out of the 7.2 billion.  

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54 minutes ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I have no problem believing Ramona is a one percenter.  I think I’m a one percenter and my balance sheet is probably somewhere slightly higher than Sonja’s and slightly lower than Len’s. 

I used to apply the definition of “one percenter” to Americans, but then I heard clinical psychologist Jordan Peterson do a podcast wherein he asked why we should not use the entire world when we are gauging who is the one percent.  He said it might be convenient to draw the line around Americans, but there’s no reason not to include the rest of the world, and that changed my thinking about the whole situation. 

Having said that, I don’t think Ramona is rolling in as much dough as she wants us to think she is.  I’m not even sure if she’s particularly rich. But I would bet money that she’s in the top one percent of earners out of the 7.2 billion.  

I’d say 1 percenters that Ramona is trying to include herself in are more billionaires they own islands and Mega yachts they have more money then 10 generations could even think about spending .. ... they look down at those who only have millions which is a lot more then the average person would ever dream of having 100% I understand that... even the average millionaires can’t just vacation whenever they want they still need to work .. do they vacation yes.... ..benzo Tesla zuckerburg gates etc etc are 1 percenters or more correctly the .01% .. is Ramona comfortable yes is she the upper crust of the wealthy not like she would like to believe no 

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