S12.E12: Eat, Drink, and Be Scary

[Hangin Out]

10 minutes ago, Axie said:

What exactly is the deal with Hannah?  Why is she so damn strange?  Is she playing a character or is she just a genuine weirdo?  She should befriend Leah because she’s pretty damn strange, too.

 

 

Weird is chic.  So she thinks.

[Hangin Out]

Ha.  No wonder Rob doesn’t marry Leah.

[goofygirl]

We've seen Sonja stuff her purse with lobster, crabs, cheese, crackers.... She probably just needs to use one of those softside cooler bags as a purse to keep her leftovers fresh!

Edited July 3, 2020 by goofygirl

[Axie]

I read somewhere that Leah has been sober for a few months.  Which is great because she is someone who really needs to stay sober.

[SweetieDarling]

When Leah told Luann that she was planning to wear the sheer bodysuit, Luann seemed disappointed that she wasn't going to be naked underneath. 

 

 

Luann thinks Rob is "kinda cute". I had flashbacks to the gossipy facialist telling Sonja that Lu likes men that are shorter than she is. 

Edited July 3, 2020 by SweetieDarling

[ErikaAlyson]

Good episode imo lol I enjoyed it😃. Leah brought Rob a lot on this episode lol,why were Sonja and Luanne flirting with him? Lol wtf. Dorinda was making me cringe when she was making her toast about Ramona lol. Hannah and Dorinda with the coat walking the streets reminded me of me and my mom lol. Sonja was tore up from the floor up,I agree it seems like she’s playing a “character or role now”. Elyse was really kissing up to Ramona lol. 

[Ms Blue Jay]

9 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

Luann thinks Rob is "kinda cute". I had flashbacks to the gossipy facialist telling Sonja that Lu likes men that are shorter than she is. 

Hahaha.  What was the quote?  That she likes to dominate short French men?  😄

[UniqBlue69]

Love and Hip Hop had their cast members doing their own talking heads in April. What's up with Bravo? Their shows are always sooo behind. Why are we watching footage from November?! Get it together, Andy! This shit is lame!

[hoodooznoodooz]

Someone framed Elyse’s TH well. It looked most like a non-quarantine TH.

eta: Oh, now I see they mixed in DIYs with the regular ones. 

Lu’s sparkly silver hat was so, so ugly. 

Dorinda’s voodoo makeup looked good. She should wear dark red lipstick more often, instead of the pink cotton candy color.

Edited July 4, 2020 by hoodooznoodooz

[QQQQ]

1 hour ago, Axie said:

What exactly is the deal with Hannah?  Why is she so damn strange?  Is she playing a character or is she just a genuine weirdo?  She should befriend Leah because she’s pretty damn strange, too.

 

 

Hannah reminds me of someone playing the role of weird. There are a few girls like that in every high school class - like they don't want to be average but aren't original enough to be unique, so everything they do or say comes off as very affected or for attention. Like when nerds go goth. Except Hannah isn't in high school, so it's just meh.

Edited July 3, 2020 by QQQQ

[RedDelicious]

Nah. That dinner party was staged AF and fake as hell. Sonja being that sloppy drunk so early in the day is concerning though. I understand why she was upset with Ramona because Ramona has a Teresa Giudice way of me too’ing and one upping everything. And she was kind of behaving like a condescending asshole at the fake dinner party. I think it was more that she was pissed she lost an entire day because of it. She didn’t want to be there from go. Something else was going on behind the scenes and I think Ramona knew Sonja and Dorinda were on to her sponsored birthday party, and you can’t call Ramona Singer on ANYTHING. Also I do think it was rude of Ramona to bring Missy as her +1. It was a total lower level dig. No question.

The highlight of this episode was Avery crashing the talking head. 

ETA: I don’t like Elyse. Don’t talk shit in your talking head and kiss Ramona’s ass in the next segment. Be bold enough to simply not like her if you actually don’t.

Edited July 5, 2020 by RedDelicious

[BusyOctober]

I was looking forward to RHONY returning, but that was a shit show.  This whole season has been a shit show.  If all Bravo can do to get these shrewish harpies in front of cameras is to ply them with alcohol, I don’t want to watch anymore.  These women always had arguments and grudges, but now it’s all about embarrassing drunken screamfests.  Unlike Leah, I can’t understand sloppy drunken slurred speech.  I forgot that language a few years after I graduated college, since as an educated, working adult I didn’t need it anymore. Watching Leah, Dorinda and especially Sonja lose their collective shit week after week is depressing. I know they were supposed to look spooky or zombie-ish, but Sonja looked 15 years older.  She needs serious help for her drinking and her delusional  mania.  Maybe Bravo can get a group rate if Dorinda and Leah are a bundled package.

Leah wants Rob back so bad.  Her daughter seems hip to her mother’s BS and it was good to see her skillfully handle Leah at that dinner.

I found the self produced talking heads off putting too.  But the whole vibe of the filming of this episode (especially the ‘party’) seemed off kilter.  The editing, the pacing.  Just weird. The ‘girls’ and even the party invitees and background randos seemed to be acting in a very bad play.

 

 

[hoodooznoodooz]

There was a piece of food stuck to Hannah’s lower lip at the burger place. Apples and trees. 

[Axie]

Not the best episode, but, I’ll take this shitfest over another hour of game shows any day.

[escape]

11 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Leah on her own is not cut out for this show......Exactly, bitch.  Your own kid is pointing out the discrepancies in your stories.  There is a tremendous difference between being “kicked out” at 17 and 19.

 I knew something was up with Leah’s version of the facts earlier this season when she insisted she was born and raised in Manhattan, and never mentioned the fact that she moved to Connecticut when she was 13, because it didn’t fit her narrative.  Now that she fudged the truth aka lied twice about her story, I believe nothing she says.

She comes off as a Poser.  She's full of contradictions.  She has a history of racism, homophobia.  She's anti-Me too and has supported Harvey Weinstein.  She has written for The Federalist, a white supremacy rag.  Google.  She denied she has a drinking problem, yet just posted that she is 90 days sober.

Edited July 3, 2020 by escape

[Callaphera]

There was something off about this episode - I don't know if it was the lack of background music in the front half of the episode or the low quality 'rona talking heads but it didn't feel like a RHONY episode for some reason until towards the end when Sonja was, as is standard for this season, drunk off her ass and shoving food in her maw while repeating Dorinda's talking points about how horrible Ramona is. 

I'm kinda tempted to take Tinsley's drinking game, replace "cabaret" with a prompt of Sonja eating (most likely free food), and get nice and toasty every Thursday. Yeah, I'm drinking, Luann. 

[heatherchandler]

2 hours ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

Seriously??   Dorinda is her mother!  I like Hannah to be honest, just because I think she's statuesque and gorgeous and reminds me of models like Linda Vojtova and Ana Mihajlović.

Gorgeous?  🤔  Hannah is trying really hard, and she thinks she’s coming off cool and quirky, but she’s not.

Edited July 3, 2020 by heatherchandler

[RedDelicious]

Hannah definitely has unconventional looks and she’s one of those people that just does not look good in sunglasses, but I like her style. 

[rhys]

I weep for the days of yore when RHONY used to be worth watching. Gah! No one has a brain; they are all pickled & the fights aren't entertaining. I miss Bethenny & her quick wit I guess. The remaining women have devolved.

[The Ringo Kidd]

It was good to see Jill Zarin. None of these drunken shenanigans would have been tolerated when she was head heifer. They were worried about her approval until they pushed her out. Yes she is world class Yenta but she had a sense of proportion that Sonja lacks when she channels Jabba the Hutt.

Why does Leah attack every centerpiece at every dinner?

Does Dorinda realize that she comes off as a deranged Baby Jane?

How happy is Bethenny that she dodged this bullet? 

Edited July 3, 2020 by The Ringo Kidd

[geauxaway]

3 hours ago, QQQQ said:

Could Leah be anymore desperate or obvious in trying to make Rob state that she's his true soul mate? That dinner with their daughter was cringeworthy. She has all the subtle moves of a 6th grader.

That dinner was like her junkie looking baby daddy out to supper with his 2 daughters.  Leah was talking like a 12 year old. And trying to justify her shit worse than when I busted my kid on his phone and with his tv on in his room at 4:30 this morning (not cool, my bad for falling asleep and leaving the remotes in his room for one fucking night / rant over).

[heatherchandler]

4 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

That dinner was like her junkie looking baby daddy out to supper with his 2 daughters.  Leah was talking like a 12 year old. And trying to justify her shit worse than when I busted my kid on his phone and with his tv on in his room at 4:30 this morning (not cool, my bad for falling asleep and leaving the remotes in his room for one fucking night / rant over).

Did he try the “you never told me to go to sleep, I didn’t know what time it was!” BS that my son tried?  😬

Is the baby daddy rich?  I can’t figure him out, he looks like a junky but he’s very confident.

[geauxaway]

Just now, heatherchandler said:

Did he try the “you never told me to go to sleep, I didn’t know what time it was!” BS that my son tried?  😬

Ha!  He tried mommy I couldn’t  get good sleep.  Which is a hunk of BS.  He falls asleep and sleeps all night through every night all night.  I’m a light sleeper and I can hear the power turn off.  I was SO mad.  Wait, not mad....disappointed. 🤣

As for this show....Rob and Leah both seem like junkie friends to me.  He seems decent but also seems to have something else going on.  Otherwise they would be together.  Let’s be real.

 

[biakbiak]

Ramona’s friend Andrew looked like Perez Hilton.

I guess it wouldn’t be Halloween if LuAnn didn’t cultural appropriate!

[geauxaway]

I’d rather have Jill Zarin back on the show than more of Sonja.  WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH HER????  It’s just weird and gross.  
 

As for the displaced Elyse taking heads, I’m guessing they are just flying by the seat of their pants at this point.  She probably wasn’t supposed to be included but then Tinsley dipped out.  Who cares.  I like her and Jill wayyyyy more than Sonja and Leah.

1 minute ago, biakbiak said:

Ramona’s friend Andrew looked like Perez Hilton.

I guess it wouldn’t be Halloween if LuAnn didn’t cultural appropriate!

Sonja was also with her head dress.

And yes I thought it was Perez also

[biakbiak]

6 minutes ago, geauxaway said:

Sonja was also with her head dress.

I wasn’t talking about the headless which I don’t know what Sonja was supposed to be, I was talking using Voodoo as a party theme.

Edited July 3, 2020 by biakbiak

[ShawnaLanne]

4 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

They keep rewarding Teresa “felon” Giudice and Nene “assaulted” Leakes also.

Yep, I like this community, so I'll come back, but I think I'm done with all the housewives. I can read about it. Everyone is shrill, drunk, unlikable. Or a bully. Or a racist. No fun.

[Emmeline]

Very strange and disappointing episode.  It almost feels like they pulled together some unused footage to make an extra episode.  Don’t they record all the talking heads at once against a green screen?  Isn’t that why Dorinda has been seen in the god awful makeup with the white frosted lipstick in all previous TH.  I can’t understand why they would need to have the women do the TH for this episode remotely, unless this episode was thrown together suddenly after filming ended.  

Who is the big guy, Ron, that’s been showing up in a few episodes?  LuAnn looked ridiculous in the silver sequin cap.  What the heck!

[Caseysgirl]

Agree with everyone that this franchise is definitely hurting with Bethany gone. First of all, there is no voice of reason. Certainly not Ramona; definitely not Dorinda. And Leah and Sonja can’t get through an episode without being totally out of their minds drunk.”?  Elyse is getting pushed to the back of the bus in every episode, but I can’t help but like her. No one to root for; cringing watching them all.  60 year old women looking for guys and drinking like college freshmen is not entertaining.

[biakbiak]

39 minutes ago, Emmeline said:

can’t understand why they would need to have the women do the TH for this episode remotely, unless this episode was thrown together suddenly after filming ended.  

They always film more talking heads after the seasons start airing because of how they edit the show, they normally are able to go to production not do it themselves.

[CrinkleCutCat]

Elyse: Ramona is not your friend.

[NYCFree]

In addition to the great “shut up about Elyse” comment by Avery, Ramona’s talking head had this weird “animated” quality. Both my son and I noticed that the kitchen cabinets behind her created this weird background that looked liked it was drawn, rather than live action; it made Ramona look like she had popped into a cartoon to film her talking heads.

[mostlylurking]

I thought Hannah was fantastic. Yes, a bit strange but also chic. I felt very badly for her when she was throwing Dorinda a bone saying she admired her more now than ever. Either Dorinda was a complete train wreck of a mother or Hannah was just taking pity on her own mother. I tend to think (hope) it was the latter. Even Dorinda seemed dubious, like “What?  Admire me? I’m a mess”. 

I have to admit it’s tough to feel badly for Ramona when she just stood by and watched Tinsley get railroaded by Dorinda. Karma is a bitch.

 Apologies for being shallow but Sonja looked awful at the Halloween party. She’s gross. 

I loved Leahs daughter calling out her bs and Avery telling Ramona to just move on. Lol. I also laughed way too hard at Leah saying “shots fired!” about Ramona bringing Missy. 

Edited July 3, 2020 by mostlylurking

[MadMiniaturist]

I'm starting to like Hanna. I thought the things she told her mother were really touching, and wise. Dorinda is a hot mess but her daughter seems to have a pretty good head on her shoulders. Speaking of which, she's striking in a quirky way. She and her mother are what I'd consider jolie-laide. And I mean that as a compliment.

[Baltimore Betty]

13 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

I thought Hannah was fantastic. Yes, a bit strange but in a chic way. I felt very badly for her when she was throwing Dorinda a bone saying she admired her more now than ever. Either Dorinda was a complete train wreck of a mother or Hannah was just taking pity on her own mother. I tend to think (hope) it was the latter. Even Dorinda seemed dubious, like “What?  Admire me? I’m a mess”. 

I have to admit it’s tough to feel badly for Ramona when she just stood by and watched Tinsley get railroaded by Dorinda. Karma is a bitch.

 Apologies for being shallow but Sonja looked awful at the Halloween party. She’s gross. 

Don't ever worry about being shallow here, we all live for the shallow and the snark, that gin soaked woman sets herself up for those kind of comments.

The goat heads lost me, I could not sit at that table for dinner.  

Ramona is a mess, when she was ignoring Dorinda she reminded me of a dog that was asked if they made a mess on the carpet, you know how the look everywhere but at you...that was Ramona!

Elyse seems smart enough to know what Ramona is about by now.  When they replayed that very awkward and fake breakdown at the bar which was filmed maybe a month earlier then Ramona says how much she has grown and changed...lol. Avery was pure gold in the background of Ramona's TH.

And then there is Leah, what is her game? Talking about her and Rob in front of their kid was odd, maybe Leah and Rob can sort out whatever their relationship is in private?  Was Rob her "supplier" at some point, that could be her reason for not wanting to sever their personal relationship and keeping it just to the bio dad relationship.

I never want to go to any of that party host's parties, they look exhausting.

[Hangin Out]

7 hours ago, geauxaway said:

That dinner was like her junkie looking baby daddy out to supper with his 2 daughters.  Leah was talking like a 12 year old. And trying to justify her shit worse than when I busted my kid on his phone and with his tv on in his room at 4:30 this morning (not cool, my bad for falling asleep and leaving the remotes in his room for one fucking night / rant over).

Don’t feel bad.  Your kid is the norm.  My grandkids 12 and 15 fall asleep with the phones still in their ears.  My daughter is going nuts and taking all phones away at night.  I’m wondering what the heck they are talking about.

[Keywestclubkid]

13 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Don’t feel bad.  Your kid is the norm.  My grandkids 12 and 15 fall asleep with the phones still in their ears.  My daughter is going nuts and taking all phones away at night.  I’m wondering what the heck they are talking about.

I was just asking my best friend the same thing I was like what the hell did we ever really talk about?... when we were like 13/14 we would stay on the phone for hours talking about nothing .. now i cant stand to be on the phone more then a couple of min.. lol

[malibu]

Dorinda is just an ugly person, inside and out.  She claims that Ramona yelled out to the whole party that she was drunk when there was nobody else there when they had that interaction.  Why is she pushing so hard for Ramona to share her party with Sonja?  Who cares if Ramona's paying for it or not?  We all know this is a tv show that relies on sponsorships and Bravo pays for the majority of the events anyway.  And then Dorinda made herself look like a complete ass with that ridiculous toast/roast.  She seriously has issues.  I'm not trying to be a Ramona apologist because lord knows that woman is a kook and I can't believe Dorinda has made me take her side but Dorinda seems to have really gone off the deep end in trying to keep herself relevant to become the queen of the show.  It's really not pleasant to watch.  

Also, Sonja is looking verrrrry rough in the episodes.  I'm happy to see she looks healthier in the THs but wow, she looked awful in that costume and the constant drunkenness isn't a good look either.

[Keywestclubkid]

9 minutes ago, malibu said:

Dorinda is just an ugly person, inside and out.  She claims that Ramona yelled out to the whole party that she was drunk when there was nobody else there when they had that interaction.  Why is she pushing so hard for Ramona to share her party with Sonja?  Who cares if Ramona's paying for it or not?  We all know this is a tv show that relies on sponsorships and Bravo pays for the majority of the events anyway.  And then Dorinda made herself look like a complete ass with that ridiculous toast/roast.  She seriously has issues.  I'm not trying to be a Ramona apologist because lord knows that woman is a kook and I can't believe Dorinda has made me take her side but Dorinda seems to have really gone off the deep end in trying to keep herself relevant to become the queen of the show.  It's really not pleasant to watch.  

Also, Sonja is looking verrrrry rough in the episodes.  I'm happy to see she looks healthier in the THs but wow, she looked awful in that costume and the constant drunkenness isn't a good look either.

Dorinda is just doubling down on the nasty drunk story line shes always got going .... she cant blame this on Tinsly anymore cause Tins isnt around .... she just finds new people to lash out at... Put down the booze Drunkinda its messy and not cute

[SuprSuprElevated]

10 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

The woman must be poor.  She drinks and stuffs everything down her throat to oblivion because it’s free.  Probably stuffs her pocketbook for tomorrow too.  What a slob.
 

 

 

I often think that Sawnya acts exactly the way she thinks she's expected to act.  Her demeanor on this episode almost seemed put on.  Probably not, but you know?

[snarts]

So much cringe. Dorinda's speech, Elyse's groveling, Sonja's everything.  The worst though was Ramona asking about the guys paunch like it was a prop from the costume store.  I cringed so hard I might have popped a blood vessel.

Also, while I appreciate Avery telling Ramona to shut it, just no on Avery. Feel like she's trying too hard of late to get an apple. 

Unlike most, I was happy to see Jill and glad to see that she's happy. I like the Luann/Jill friendship.

[SuprSuprElevated]

10 hours ago, ErikaOnline said:

why were Sonja and Luanne flirting with him

He owns a swinging dick.

[ladypoodle]

Randoms thoughts:

That table setting was macabre and not in a good way, I get that meat on the menu means a head is going to be somewhere but using it as a prop is gross. I couldn't have stomached sitting there.

Where was the food at the party? 

Leah is so attractive (she has such elegant delicate fingers!) so im erring on the side of Crazy Lady vibes if she hasn't had a relationship since Rob. Its clear Rob knows her personality disorder well enough to play nice enough to keep his daughter safe and well but he's not interested one bit in a love-relationship.

Dorinda being all worldly and correcting Ramona's pronounciation when she called a Hamam Hamas a few episodes back and Sonja "upsurping youpursping" you can see how the snobby circles they once tried to ingratiate themselves with would have sniggered behind their backs ...

 

 

Edited July 3, 2020 by ladypoodle

[Ms Blue Jay]

22 minutes ago, snarts said:

Also, while I appreciate Avery telling Ramona to shut it, just no on Avery. Feel like she's trying too hard of late to get an apple. 

The moment seemed really staged to me until Ramona told her to shut up -- Ouch -- and I was horrified they're trying to do the "Daughters of RHONY" like somebody suggested here recently.

 

[SuprSuprElevated]

51 minutes ago, malibu said:

I'm happy to see she looks healthier in the THs

She looked in last night's talking head, the best she has all season.

Edited July 3, 2020 by SuprSuprElevated

[65mickey]

7 minutes ago, SuprSuprElevated said:

She looked the best in last night's talking head than she has all season.

Filmed while she was in quarantine and mostly not getting free booze and food. She looked 100% better. 

[65mickey]

14 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

The moment seemed really staged to me until Ramona told her to shut up -- Ouch -- and I was horrified they're trying to do the "Daughters of RHONY" like somebody suggested here recently.

 

I don't think this would be any worse than what they are showing now. Avery and Ally are grown and so far seem mature and have not been in trouble. Maybe a show with Avery and Ally.  Might be interesting. As long as they don't get drunk and troll for men in bars and parties like Sonja, Ramona and  Luann.  But unless they recast this franchise next year if thre is a next season  this show is done. What will be Dorinda's  story line? So far. she has gone after Heather, Sonja, Bethenny, Luann, Tinsley and now Ramona. If she turns on Leah this is likely to devolve nto a real hair pulling, slapping, roll on the floor fight a la RHNJ. 

[Hangin Out]

I watched for the second time this morning to hear everything.  Dorinda with her speech setting her record straight about her bad behavior claiming she was right about everything and she’s a good person.  What a laugh.  She’s delusional and needs to go away to rehab.  Ditsy Ramona, the only one who acted like a lady at the table and kept her cool and left.  Sonja.  Drunker by the minute and getting worse with her slurring and touching everyone inappropriately innocently.  She looked ten years older last night.  Countess LuAnn, isn’t a troublemaker, but will screw anything in pants, short or tall, but that’s her prerogative.  At least she isn’t vicious.  I miss Tinsley and Bethenny.  At least we had laughs and a voice of reason.  Last nights episode was a disaster.  Leah, although beautiful, is a big mess.  IMO.  Everyone has an opinion, and I respect that.  This was my favorite show on t.v., but no more and I’m so disappointed and embarrassed for my City.  I know it’s only a show, but still.

[The Ringo Kidd]

Who is the sympathetic character on this show? Who can you root for?

I guess it was supposed to be Leah but she has forfeited that by her behavior.

Truer words were never spoken when her hobbit ex-husband said “This is what my life has come to” as Leah ripped a squid off the centerpiece and threw it across the room. 

[bichonblitz]

1 hour ago, malibu said:

Also, Sonja is looking verrrrry rough in the episodes.  I'm happy to see she looks healthier in the THs but wow, she looked awful in that costume and the constant drunkenness isn't a good look either.

Sonja said herself in a episode once that she looked like Phyllis Diller. Yes, she said that. Now I can't unsee it! Especially when she's a drunk mess. Which is usually always.