Las Vegas - General Discussion

[Giuseppe]

The E! channel has been running episodes of this series here and there since Memorial Day when they did a marathon. Surprised there's not a topic for it already. I looked it up and it ran from 2003-2008. I'd never seen the show before, but since I had nothing better to do that day, and since I'm kind of obsessed with all things Vegas, I thought I'd check out a few episodes and was surprised at how entertaining I found it in a cheesy fluff kind of way. I think I watched most of season 3 that day. Today, E! is doing an every episode ever marathon, so I've been watching from the beginning. Anyone else like this show? Ed, Danny, and Mike are my favorite characters. I'm looking forward to seeing the entire series even though I'm sure I'll have to DVR several episodes.

They sure went guest-star heavy in this first season, but it doesn't seem out of place or forced, given the show's premise. Incidentally, just how many times has Wayne Newton appeared in Vegas-themed shows or movies???

[screengem]

Season three gets wacky when Lara Flynn Boyle joins the cast as the new owner, Monica Mancuso

Watch out for episode 9 of season three titled Mothwoman.  If you blink in one season, you miss one of the most hilarious knock offs of a series character ever!!

 

[Mean Machine]

I used to watch this in the late 2000s when TNT aired reruns during the day.  Now that I've lived in Vegas and worked on the Strip for several years I'm loving rewatching these episodes and catching all of the references.  Also digging all the overhead shots of Vegas and what the Strip looked like over fifteen years ago.

So I've got plenty of DVR space cleared out and I plan on watching the entire thing again.  Totally like a modern-day Love Boat in a way.

[Giuseppe]

1 hour ago, screengem said:

Watch out for episode 9 of season three titled Mothwoman.  If you blink in one season, you miss one of the most hilarious knock offs of a series character ever!!

I actually saw that episode during the Memorial Day marathon, haha. It was the 3rd or 4th episode I watched and I didn't know the characters yet. But I DID blink and miss it the first time! When I turned my head back to the screen and realized what was happening, I was like, "wha---what???" I had to rewind the DVR to see what just happened. It was the weirdest thing I'd ever seen. Was LFB's character not well received? Did she want to leave the show? It was just such a bizarre way to get rid of her, including the way she chose to act out the...flight, lol.

Edited June 25, 2020 by Giuseppe

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I think that Lara Flynn Boyle's character was killed off in epic TV fashion early in that season in time for sweeps ratings because of her contract.  It seems that Las Vegas, in particular, was a drama constantly trying to reinvent itself.   See below an analysis from the Hollywood Reporter

Character departures, "Las Vegas" style, are as colorful as Sin City itself. Consider the following ways the show has dispensed with its heroes and villains:

* Ed Deline (James Caan) and Mary Connell (Nikki Cox): Both the Montecito Resort & Casino president of operations (Caan) and special events director (Cox) went into hiding -- Deline because he was accused of killing Connell's father.

* Jean-Claude Van Damme (as himself) died while attempting a motorcycle jump for a movie he was filming in town.

* Gold-digging Montecito owner Monica Mancuso (Lara Flynn Boyle) was blown off the roof of the casino by a strong gust of wind and died after crashing into a shoe store below.

* Casey Manning (Dean Cain), another former Montecito owner, was both poisoned by botulism and then roughed up by a giant squid while on a fishing trip.

"Las Vegas" characters are involved in all manner of shady dealings -- including cheating and murder. Fortunately, the real-life city isn't worried about any possible negative portrayals. "It's almost like a free commercial for Las Vegas," says Ed Harran, production manager for the Nevada Film Office.

His only complaint is that the show only films a fraction of each season in his home state.

"If you're a Nevadan, when you see the show you know there's no trees like that over here. Sometimes they shoot exteriors and you can tell it's California," he says. But when the show is in town, "It has a good impact on our economy," because of the use of local crews and equipment.

"It's also a good impact on tourism," he adds. "They had an episode where they featured some guys at a bachelor party driving on a bus to a topless donut shop. And we got, I think, 50 phone calls over the next week, all from out-of-town guys asking where they could find that donut shop."   

Home Game: When it comes to DVDs, the sales are respectable, while the content skirts the edge

"Las Vegas" (NBC) Seasons in the Sun: 4. Ka-ching? Currently, DVD sales for all seasons combined have been around 500,000 in North America, according to Lea Porteneuve, vp publicity for Universal Studios Home Entertainment. That's "a number we're really happy with," she says.

The Bottom Line: From the outset, NBC Universal and the creators of "Las Vegas" have considered the series' addictive DVD sets as some of the best advertising for the show itself. In a few ways, the DVDs offer less than the telecast -- some of the original music is missing, for example. (Music supervisor Jennifer Pyken oversees the replacement cuts, though, "So that I know the music stays in sync with what we want.") But in other ways, the DVDs offer more -- the "uncut and uncensored" first season ups the amount of bare flesh in the poolside scenes.

Global Bet: The instant recognition of Las Vegas doesn't guarantee international sucess for its namesake show.

It's fair to say that, other than Los Angeles and New York, Las Vegas is one of the few American cities with an instantly recognizable image around the world. But as for NBC's "Las Vegas" -- which currently airs in approximately 165 countries in addition to the U.S. -- the picture is mixed.

It's been a hot ticket in Australia for the past four seasons on Seven Net, where it garners a 20% share in the 18-49 demos in a competitive time slot. But while in countries like France and Spain it outpaces other American dramas like "Nip/Tuck" and "Law & Order," Germany's Kabel Eins has had less luck -- and had to shift its time slot recently.

"We had hoped it would do better because it's a terrific show, and it's getting 2%-3% audience share in the new time slot, but unfortunately it didn't take off the way we thought it would," said a Kabel Eins spokesperson.

She added, "Maybe it's too American for the Germans."

 

[Raja]

When it left the initial syndication to be all but unavailable except at very high prices. When  it showed up on Saturday morning on E it seems the original Elvis opening credits were replaced by generic TV theme.  With all of the musical guest spots they had over the seasons I would guess that those remain intact.

For a wacky sort of crime show it could turn dark at a moments notice.

[Giuseppe]

I've finally gotten to the end of season 2 and just started season 3, and I still have 51 episodes left on my DVR from last week's marathon, lol. I had planned to do a good binge watch this weekend, but other things got in the way. Anyhoo…

This show is just fun. I'm glad I stumbled onto it. Does anyone know why the actress who played Nessa didn't come back for seasons 3 and on? I was really starting to enjoy her character. Did she ever guest in any future seasons?

Also, this show sure is boob-heavy, lol. Especially for a prime-time drama. I would assume it originally aired at 10pm to be able to get away with that. Which leads me to wonder...I don't know how casino employees typically dress, but I would expect a casino host (is that really a thing?), the director of special events, and the manager of the restaurant to at least wear business suits. But Sam, Mary, and Delinda (Mary especially) almost always are in the most low-cut revealing tops they can find. Maybe that's normal in Vegas, just strikes me as funny, especially as Danny, Mike, and Ed are always in suits. 

I love the redesign of the Montecito starting in season 3. The giant waterfall in the middle is cool, even though I doubt something like that would ever work in real life, lol.

[Raja]

On 6/26/2020 at 5:16 AM, screengem said:

"Las Vegas" characters are involved in all manner of shady dealings -- including cheating and murder. Fortunately, the real-life city isn't worried about any possible negative portrayals. "It's almost like a free commercial for Las Vegas," says Ed Harran, production manager for the Nevada Film Office.

His only complaint is that the show only films a fraction of each season in his home state.

"If you're a Nevadan, when you see the show you know there's no trees like that over here. Sometimes they shoot exteriors and you can tell it's California," he says. But when the show is in town, "It has a good impact on our economy," because of the use of local crews and equipment.

 

Much less then run away from shady they seemed to play it up, I remember the fantasy cast in the 60s episode and musings in the real time episodes where they dreamed about taking cheaters and card counters out to the desert to deal with it the old school way. Sam and Polly would proudly mention their work as prostitutes and even offered to put in more work for special clients. And Big Ed may have started a spy but he sure acted like a gangster at the end.

33 minutes ago, Giuseppe said:

I've finally gotten to the end of season 2 and just started season 3, and I still have 51 episodes left on my DVR from last week's marathon, lol. I had planned to do a good binge watch this weekend, but other things got in the way. Anyhoo…

This show is just fun. I'm glad I stumbled onto it. Does anyone know why the actress who played Nessa didn't come back for seasons 3 and on? I was really starting to enjoy her character. Did she ever guest in any future seasons?

Also, this show sure is boob-heavy, lol. Especially for a prime-time drama. I would assume it originally aired at 10pm to be able to get away with that. Which leads me to wonder...I don't know how casino employees typically dress, but I would expect a casino host (is that really a thing?), the director of special events, and the manager of the restaurant to at least wear business suits. But Sam, Mary, and Delinda (Mary especially) almost always are in the most low-cut revealing tops they can find. Maybe that's normal in Vegas, just strikes me as funny, especially as Danny, Mike, and Ed are always in suits. 

I love the redesign of the Montecito starting in season 3. The giant waterfall in the middle is cool, even though I doubt something like that would ever work in real life, lol.

I think that Marsha Thomason  was just a victim of budget cuts. With the  real daughter Delinda and Mary/Danny  triangle being a continued story and Sam being a more out there character Nessa as just the Goddaughter of Big Ed just couldn't compete. Maybe if she was with Mike like Piper was later she would have had a unique role beyond the forth woman, but I don't think they were ready to tie down all of their leads in the first years of the show.

Just watching Sam's short stint as owner last weekend telling Ed to get in a suit and tie and his push back was a hoot. Wiki says it started on Monday before a transfer to Friday at 9 before finally finding a permanent home at 10 on Friday. But I mostly saw the show on TNT on the daily marathon when I was off work but really in order as I woke up for work at zero dark thirty and watched while getting ready to go to work when it was shifted to Third Watch's graveyard before cancellation time slot..

[LemonSoda]

I had forgotten how much I enjoyed this show. It was fluffy, fun and entertaining without dragging me down. 

[tvfanatic13]

Loved it then. Love watching in repeats now. I thought it was a great show. Too bad it ended on a cliff hanger because they thought that they were going to get another season. 

[geauxaway]

Glad I’m not the only one who stumbled upon the marathon a couple weekends ago!  I miss night time soaps like this.  And I’m a total Vanessa Marcil fangirl (Brenda Barrett 4eva!!!!).   I recorded them all and am working my way through them.  

[Mariana Renata]

Any links where I can watch it?

[Giuseppe]

1 hour ago, Mariana Renata said:

Any links where I can watch it?

There are a bunch of episodes on youtube here but it's not the best quality and doesn't look like it's the entire series. I can't find it streaming anywhere, which is a shame since E! doesn't appear to be airing any more episodes anytime soon. This seems like the kind of show that would be in perpetual re-runs on a couple different networks.

I didn't realize there was different theme music for the opening titles in the original run--an Elvis song as someone upthread mentioned. Hearing it via the youtube link, I prefer the syndicated music. It seems to fit the show better. Plus, I'm just not an Elvis fan, haha.

On 7/5/2020 at 5:05 PM, Raja said:

I think that Marsha Thomason  was just a victim of budget cuts. With the  real daughter Delinda and Mary/Danny  triangle being a continued story and Sam being a more out there character Nessa as just the Goddaughter of Big Ed just couldn't compete. Maybe if she was with Mike like Piper was later she would have had a unique role beyond the forth woman, but I don't think they were ready to tie down all of their leads in the first years of the show.

That's a shame if that's really the reason she didn't come back. They could've played up Nessa's and Delinda's sister relationship more, since Nessa was effectively Ed's adopted daughter. Instead, it seemed Nessa and Delinda hardly ever interacted, much less behaved like sisters who grew up together. I loved the episode where Nessa fell for the amnesiac "employee" who turned out to actually be a a hitman who had lost his memory after his last job. I thought they were so cute together.

[Raja]

1 hour ago, Giuseppe said:

 

That's a shame if that's really the reason she didn't come back. They could've played up Nessa's and Delinda's sister relationship more, since Nessa was effectively Ed's adopted daughter. Instead, it seemed Nessa and Delinda hardly ever interacted, much less behaved like sisters who grew up together. I loved the episode where Nessa fell for the amnesiac "employee" who turned out to actually be a a hitman who had lost his memory after his last job. I thought they were so cute together.

They grew up together? I assumed from the bio that since Ed was CIA he was away from home and Nessa was his daughter on deployment.

[Giuseppe]

I was binging the episodes so maybe some things I misinterpreted, but I would swear I watched a scene where either Delinda or Nessa said something about growing up together. And I thought Ed took Nessa in after her father was "killed", so it'd make sense that the two girls would've been around each other a lot. But I could be wrong.

[tvfanatic13]

2 hours ago, Giuseppe said:

I was binging the episodes so maybe some things I misinterpreted, but I would swear I watched a scene where either Delinda or Nessa said something about growing up together. And I thought Ed took Nessa in after her father was "killed", so it'd make sense that the two girls would've been around each other a lot. But I could be wrong.

I think that is right. 

[Raja]

And just as I was about to go to sleep  it turns out that the USA Network had been marathoning Las Vegas today just like E! did a couple of weekends ago.

[Kiki777]

It’s funny I was just watching today - omg Sonny Corleone! - and found it addictive.  I had to DVR them because I was getting a lot of phone calls.  He aged well - a very handsome older man.

[Giuseppe]

USA doing another marathon today. Season 2 episodes.

I feel like Sam's character changed a bit between seasons 2 and 3. Seems like in season 3 she became a lot more...I don't know...snippy? Deadpan? Nonchalant? Uncaring? She just seems to be missing a bit of the warmth she had in the first two seasons. The writing overall seems off after season 2. I wonder if there was a writing regime change between the seasons, or maybe it's just in my head.

I watched "Mothwoman" again the other day, and the ridiculous-ness of Monica's death really makes me laugh. They could've made it seem a lot windier on the roof...as it was, nobody's hair was even blowing before it happened. And a strong gust wouldn't have carried her a mile down the strip, but whatever, lol. 

[Raja]

I wonder if they are testing intrest for the Peacock app?

[Raja]

Look like I just missed another early Sunday block of episodes on E! I have never seen anything scheduled like this show.

[Kiki777]

I caught it today, it was a nice way to pass a rainy Sunday morning.  According to my cable guide they will run a handful of episodes almost every morning this week.  It is an odd schedule.

Monica’s death was so random and bizarre (was it a wink at all the 90s controversy of LFB being very thin?) the aftermath was quite funny though - they dumped her ashes in the toilet and applauded awkwardly.

[Raja]

If I am following the E! strategy it seems as if they are putting a show in a block and running the series once, sometimes with an extended marathon thrown in probably to space it right. And then they rotate another show in for the same treatment

[Giuseppe]

7 hours ago, Raja said:

If I am following the E! strategy it seems as if they are putting a show in a block and running the series once, sometimes with an extended marathon thrown in probably to space it right. And then they rotate another show in for the same treatment

Looks like they are doing another marathon right now. Season 4 episodes.

[Kiki777]

To add to the scheduling weirdness, there was a marathon on Bravo today.  Season 5, and I missed the whys and hows, but Ed is gone and Magnum PI takes his place.  Never liked Tom Selleck so I just couldn’t get into it.

[Raja]

16 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

To add to the scheduling weirdness, there was a marathon on Bravo today.  Season 5, and I missed the whys and hows, but Ed is gone and Magnum PI takes his place.  Never liked Tom Selleck so I just couldn’t get into it.

It was one of those story arcs where the show turned very dark. Beyond his wife wanting Ed to retire, Ed was really gone for the same reason Mary was gone

[Raja]

On 7/9/2020 at 5:00 AM, Giuseppe said:

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That's a shame if that's really the reason she didn't come back. They could've played up Nessa's and Delinda's sister relationship more, since Nessa was effectively Ed's adopted daughter. Instead, it seemed Nessa and Delinda hardly ever interacted, much less behaved like sisters who grew up together. I loved the episode where Nessa fell for the amnesiac "employee" who turned out to actually be a a hitman who had lost his memory after his last job. I thought they were so cute together.

The first season has rotated back to the predawn E! timeslot. While Nessa was introduced as the best Pit Boss in Vegas having us just watch her just watching the gamblers and dealers when all the action went on in surveillance didn't leave much for her to do at work compared to the other three. 

[BW Manilowe]

On 7/4/2020 at 7:35 PM, Raja said:

When it left the initial syndication to be all but unavailable except at very high prices. When  it showed up on Saturday morning on E it seems the original Elvis opening credits were replaced by generic TV theme.  With all of the musical guest spots they had over the seasons I would guess that those remain intact.

For a wacky sort of crime show it could turn dark at a moments notice.

The theme song which replaces Elvis in the repeats—strangely enough, except for the Pilot (I think)— also replaces Elvis on the DVDs (or so I’ve read). Funny thing is, I’m pretty sure I remember the Elvis song being used over the opening credits when it aired on TNT. Frankly, I prefer Elvis to “Let It Ride” (the alternate theme song). He’s definitely more iconic as far as Vegas is concerned.

[BW Manilowe]

On 7/5/2020 at 4:03 PM, Giuseppe said:

I've finally gotten to the end of season 2 and just started season 3, and I still have 51 episodes left on my DVR from last week's marathon, lol. I had planned to do a good binge watch this weekend, but other things got in the way. Anyhoo…

This show is just fun. I'm glad I stumbled onto it. Does anyone know why the actress who played Nessa didn't come back for seasons 3 and on? I was really starting to enjoy her character. Did she ever guest in any future seasons?

Also, this show sure is boob-heavy, lol. Especially for a prime-time drama. I would assume it originally aired at 10pm to be able to get away with that. Which leads me to wonder...I don't know how casino employees typically dress, but I would expect a casino host (is that really a thing?), the director of special events, and the manager of the restaurant to at least wear business suits. But Sam, Mary, and Delinda (Mary especially) almost always are in the most low-cut revealing tops they can find. Maybe that's normal in Vegas, just strikes me as funny, especially as Danny, Mike, and Ed are always in suits. 

I love the redesign of the Montecito starting in season 3. The giant waterfall in the middle is cool, even though I doubt something like that would ever work in real life, lol.

Regarding the bolded: This is what distractify.com said about Marsha Thomason/Nessa’s departure.

[BW Manilowe]

On 7/9/2020 at 12:33 PM, tvfanatic13 said:

I think that is right. 

According to canon, Nessa’s dad was a rather shady character—con man, etc.—who was recruited by the CIA & had to fake his death. So Ed & Jillian Deline raised her as their own (presumably, as another CIA asset or someone with high level ties to them, Ed felt responsible for this, even though Nessa’s dad wasn’t really dead). There are subtle lines between Nessa & Delinda about stuff women who grew up as sisters would talk about—I think, like, about Ed checking out the boys/guys they used to date & other things, as I remember, but the references were never “hit you over the head” type things. They actually may have put more into the “Ed as Nessa’s surrogate father” relationship (Nessa definitely called Ed “Pops” at least once) than the “raised as sisters” relationship between Delinda & Nessa.

 

On 7/31/2020 at 11:23 AM, Giuseppe said:

USA doing another marathon today. Season 2 episodes.

I feel like Sam's character changed a bit between seasons 2 and 3. Seems like in season 3 she became a lot more...I don't know...snippy? Deadpan? Nonchalant? Uncaring? She just seems to be missing a bit of the warmth she had in the first two seasons. The writing overall seems off after season 2. I wonder if there was a writing regime change between the seasons, or maybe it's just in my head.

I watched "Mothwoman" again the other day, and the ridiculous-ness of Monica's death really makes me laugh. They could've made it seem a lot windier on the roof...as it was, nobody's hair was even blowing before it happened. And a strong gust wouldn't have carried her a mile down the strip, but whatever, lol. 

Regarding the bolded: I think, in canon, Sam’s character was supposed to be as you described—definitely not warm—to her coworkers & the world, but she actually had a hidden, caring side about certain things & people she didn’t want them to know about. She preferred to be an enigma.

[BW Manilowe]

On 8/23/2020 at 10:07 AM, Raja said:

It was one of those story arcs where the show turned very dark. Beyond his wife wanting Ed to retire, Ed was really gone for the same reason Mary was gone

Regarding the bolded: in the storyline, yes they were suspects in a certain crime. In real life, it was announced that Nikki Cox was let go for budget cuts (budget cuts often happen late in the life of a series—they also did in the last season, especially, of The West Wing—but they usually don’t involve the departure of a character, in my experience), & that James Caan was leaving to return to doing movies. She met her estranged (not sure if they’re actually exes yet) husband, comedian Jay Mohr, when he did a guest spot on the show (much like Josh Duhamel met his now ex-wife, former Black Eyed Peas singer, Fergie). They have a son named Meredith (yes, you read that right). Unfortunately, in recent years, Nikki Cox has reportedly been battling substance abuse & other mental health issues, according to the 2 divorce petitions filed against her (the first was withdrawn) by Jay Mohr.

Here is a “Where are they now?”-type article, posted by E! about the cast (but I’m not sure when).

Edited October 28, 2020 by BW Manilowe
To add a link.

[Raja]

It looks like Las Vegas has the New Year's Eve and Day marathon slot on E!

[Giuseppe]

15 hours ago, Raja said:

It looks like Las Vegas has the New Year's Eve and Day marathon slot on E!

Shoot, wish I'd seen this earlier. I needed something to watch this morning before football.

[BooksRule]

I was happy to find a thread for this show.  I don't think I've seen every episode, and the ones that I've seen have been viewed out of order (if I'm home and see it listed I'll tune in if I can and watch an episode or two).  I did look up the show on Wikipedia a while back to get the plotlines and characters straight.  I've got the marathon on right now and just watched Monica fly off the roof. 🙂 

I'm hoping that E! will continue to air the show so I can catch it from the beginning and watch start to finish (what little finish there was--I know they didn't wrap up plots when the show was canceled).

[Raja]

9 hours ago, BooksRule said:

I was happy to find a thread for this show.  I don't think I've seen every episode, and the ones that I've seen have been viewed out of order (if I'm home and see it listed I'll tune in if I can and watch an episode or two).  I did look up the show on Wikipedia a while back to get the plotlines and characters straight.  I've got the marathon on right now and just watched Monica fly off the roof. 🙂 

I'm hoping that E! will continue to air the show so I can catch it from the beginning and watch start to finish (what little finish there was--I know they didn't wrap up plots when the show was canceled).

Unfortunately there seems to be no pattern to E! and when they roll out the show. And then there was a strange one afternoon USA Network  mid morning block. About the only way to know is to diligently watch the TV listing to see when it shows up again and then many of the viewings are on the graveyard shift of TV.  So I hope you have a recorder ready.

Before the New Years promised every episode marathon the last time I noticed a run they got to around the Stallone guest spot episode and abruptly went to Kardashian marathons.  

Edited January 3, 2021 by Raja

[BW Manilowe]

On 1/2/2021 at 9:37 PM, BooksRule said:

I was happy to find a thread for this show.  I don't think I've seen every episode, and the ones that I've seen have been viewed out of order (if I'm home and see it listed I'll tune in if I can and watch an episode or two).  I did look up the show on Wikipedia a while back to get the plotlines and characters straight.  I've got the marathon on right now and just watched Monica fly off the roof. 🙂 

I'm hoping that E! will continue to air the show so I can catch it from the beginning and watch start to finish (what little finish there was--I know they didn't wrap up plots when the show was canceled).

The show seems to alternate between E! & USA Network.

[BW Manilowe]

In the “Delinda’s Box” episode (where Delinda was kidnapped by a guy called “Chips”, I think, & left buried underground in a box [modeled after a real-life 1970s kidnapping], or at least the idea was for Ed to think she was in the underground box all the time, until he paid the ransom), what the heck was “Chips” pissed at Ed for? I don’t think they explained that very well. It just seemed like some random guy, who may or may not have had some connection to Ed, decided he was gonna kidnap Delinda, make fun of Ed & Jillian’s choice of the name “Delinda Deline” for her, & then at least make Ed think she was buried in an underground box until he ransomed her (& Ed would apparently get killed by a tracking device he was forced to wear, after paying the ransom), though she was later seen being held above ground in the hideout belonging to “Chips” & his cohorts.

It was easier to figure out why Ed was kidnapped by that plumbing contractor, put into a bathtub & cuffed to the faucet (he refused to pay the guy for bad work) than why “Chips” kidnapped Delinda.

[Linderhill]

I was inspired by the New Year's marathon to rewatch the entire series, currently on the 5th season, episode 16.  I have come to the conclusion that I really dislike Piper.  She's obviously Mary lite but not nearly as appealing.  The whole marriage to Mike was sooo stupid and obviously a Las Vegas (the city and concept) cliche.  Speaking of cliches, the series was rampant with them.  Mobsters popping up here and there, crazy pregnant woman, jealousy, mysterious shady characters, disappearing plotlines (what ever happened to Sam's dog, Reggie? he showed up when she was kidnapped but was nowhere to be seen when she was fired). 

I did miss Ed at the beginning of season 5 but I've always liked Tom Selleck so I got over it.  I missed Mary a bit, but her character was such a nonentity sometimes it wasn't that much of lose.  Its just too bad they couldn't have thought of a better way of explaining her's and Ed's departures.  Her character had gotten better and wasn't such a wet noodle.  (Piper seems to have gone into the complete opposite direction as a pushy, annoying, overly perky ingenue)  

It is annoying the way Danny's characterization fluctuated.  One episode he's a big bad former Marine, another he's waffling over enforcing his authority in an interrogation.  Delinda walks all over him most of the time whether she's pregnant or not.    Sam is an outright beotch sometime with barely any redeeming qualities.  

It is too bad that Nessa never came back and that since Ed was on the run, Gillian was too so we never saw them as doting grandparents.  

[Raja]

Scheduling weirdness again. Bravo is running a marathon right now. They are at the beginning of season 4

[Artsda]

This show started so great, got odd at the later seasons and cast members leaving, but hated how it ended on cliff hanger.  

[ifionlyknew]

On 4/24/2021 at 10:47 AM, Artsda said:

This show started so great, got odd at the later seasons and cast members leaving, but hated how it ended on cliff hanger.  

I agree with this.   This past week I re-watched the first season.   There were some really good episodes.   The last episode of that season when Danny gets called up by the Marines makes me tear up every time I watch it. 

I was a Danny/Mary shipper and I hated what they did to them in later seasons. Nothing against Delinda but I thought the chemistry between Danny and Mary was stronger. 

[Raja]

I'm up later than usual and just surfing and look what turns up COZI TV is running Las Vegas from midnights through 3AM eastern time seven days a week

[Egg McMuffin]

They show 3 episodes a night, 7 nights a week, so they’ve been cycling through fairly quickly. The first cycle started over again after about two thirds of the way through the fourth season, so I was worried that they didn’t have the rights to the fifth season. And the listings showed it happening again, but they actually did proceed to the fifth season. Unfortunately since I thought they were cycling over, I missed the first few where Ed and Mary were written out.

I didn’t buy Danny as being experienced enough to run the whole hotel. And Piper, as another person mentioned above, is pretty unappealing.

But all in all, it’s a fun show. You have to accept that they’re not going to get into what a dirty business they’re in, and just go with it.

[Raja]

E! Is running a New Year's weekend marathon. Starting up now 

[Raja]

I just saw a promo, Las Vegas finally got a sent down to just the weekends, the graveyard midnight to 4 AM, Saturday and Sunday nights on COZI TV. But at least it was advertised on the current Friday night Magnum PI reboot.

Edited April 17, 2023 by Raja

[Giuseppe]

I'm about to finally go on my first trip to Vegas and I've been re-watching my DVR recordings of this show to amp myself up. Funny enough, I STILL haven't gotten around to watching all of the last season, though i have them all recorded. I dunno...I see that weird intro of Tom Selleck's character in the first ep of season 5 and just kind of lose all interest. Maybe this go-round I will finally get to them...

This show is sooo cheesy, but I still love it. 

[Raja]

On 12/9/2022 at 8:11 PM, Egg McMuffin said:

I didn’t buy Danny as being experienced enough to run the whole hotel. And Piper, as another person mentioned above, is pretty unappealing.

But all in all, it’s a fun show. You have to accept that they’re not going to get into what a dirty business they’re in, and just go with it.

E! is almost done with a Memorial Day weekend marathon and when taken in a blitz I think I was ready for the change over to Cooper. As Polly got more and more time I wonder if Suzanne Whang improvised her parts as she was like an instant scorer coming off a basketball team's bench.

While they had teased, the De Niro Casino like business in the fantasy 60s episode or Ed's intimidation the introduction of Piper made her a younger Sam able to take what Sam did to the next step as Big Ed was gone

[Giuseppe]

3 hours ago, Raja said:

As Polly got more and more time I wonder if Suzanne Whang improvised her parts as she was like an instant scorer coming off a basketball team's bench.

Polly was awesome! Suzanne Whang nailed it in every scene she was in. I loved when Danny and Mike got her to play pregnant Delinda when they did their trial run to the hospital.

I saw the marathon was happening, but I didn't watch it as I was having my own marathon of all the season 5 episodes since I hadn't seen them yet. Piper annoyed the bejeezus out of me at first, but I have to say, she grew on me a little bit at the end, and I actually thought she and Mike were kind of cute together. Found I didn't miss Mary at all, but I never really loved her character to begin with. Also found myself not really missing Ed, as Cooper also grew on me towards the end.

I had forgotten that y'all said season 5 ended on a major cliffhanger before getting cancelled, so I was left feeling very incomplete after the last episode! But I think I'd have been more annoyed if Cooper hadn't shown up at the end and left us all wondering if were alive or not. Also, Danny and Delinda's baby I'm sure would have been fine...I can imagine all kinds of baby hijinks that could have been planned for season 6...probably even a kidnapping or two knowing this show.

I'm kind of sad i don't have any more "new" episodes to watch now that I've finished the series, but I'll probably re-watch from the beginning again sometime in the future.

Incidentally, my first trip to Vegas last month lived up to my expectations. I had a blast and it was great seeing the strip up close and personal and seeing so many references from the show.

[Raja]

Going from Mike and Nessa flirting in Marsha Thomasons' last episodes and him wondering what might have been in that next season's opener to Mike and Piper's "annulment party" has me thinking back. That was just about the time the flip on American TV was made when Mike only could be with Nessa and never Mary, Sam or Delinda to it didn't matter anymore.

[Raja]

On 5/30/2023 at 10:47 AM, Giuseppe said:

Polly was awesome! Suzanne Whang nailed it in every scene she was in. I loved when Danny and Mike got her to play pregnant Delinda when they did their trial run to the hospital.

 

I just stumbled upon another flash E! marathon when a football game was decided and fell right into Polly's first appearance leaving Sam speechless.   God, I miss that woman.