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I have been watching since the first episode and I got hooked...Still my favorite Bravo show is Southern Charm. Ok. Back to my point.

Lisa is manipulative and we see it through many aspects of the shows she appears in. I guess giving Tom another bar is a gift for his loyalty? You can clearly see he attacked Jax or Jason for that whole priest thing for her.

 

We see you Mr. Taylor. We see your pain of watching your two loser friends get gifted a bar...and for what? Let’s talk about Tom #1..the same Tom who was mentally abusive to Katie. Oh, and he still is...Let us give Mr. Schwartz a bar when he clearly has a problem handling his liquor. That guy grosses me out with his out of shape pre pubescent body..Yes, I am body shaming him, as he deserves to be after telling his wife she turns him off. Tom #2 is just as repulsive with his Whiney voice. Clearly, Ariana is with him for his femininity and she should find another woman. We can see Ariana and Jax share the same thought process.. Why did Lisa Vanderpump give Tom a freakin bar? Ariana and Jax are depressed about it. Lisa, you are clearly ruining lives with your poor decision making.

 

Lisa you are a P.O.S.   People like you go to hell.  Your Mother and brother didn’t like you as a person but loved you because you were family. You use people as stepping stones. I can’t even believe your children are still in your life. I think you have manipulated them so well that they don’t know a real Mother’s love. You should be ashamed of the human you are. Make changes before it is too late. 

Great, she helps the animals and gays...but it is for her benefit as a social climber. Look at the new lady in the picture carrying her dog and kissing her ass. Lol  you look like a clown. Wow, lower you and your husband for money. I guess some of us have morals. Just not you, Lisa or anyone that gets involved with that old bat for money. Take the stick out of your ass and maybe you won’t walk so weird, Lisa.

 

 

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I agree with 95% of this, and love and support the name of this thread.

Just to nitpick with regard to my POV:  I think Ariana is with Sandoval because she’s not going to get a richer/more famous boyfriend at this point, and he’s not going to pressure her into having sex as much as the average guy.  

And I know where you were going, but Lisa didn’t “give” Schwartz a bar, she rarely gives anyone on this show anything.  And she never gives anything without taking full credit and acknowledgement.  Lisa allowed the Toms to invest in her bar to the tune of $50k each, and then jerked them around for a year and then made up a fake storyline that in the bar’s first year it made the profit that allowed them to each recoup their exact investment amount in profit, which would be uncanny if it were true.  

I’ve been looking for an anti-Lisa thread here for a long time.  There is one in Beverly Hills, but she is so much worse here, so I joyfully anticipate discussion of peeling back the mask (although she’s so transparent on this show, that it’s not even fair to characterize it as a mask.  It’s more like those clear peel-off masks you can get at the drugstore).  

I wish she would tuck away the drooping cleavage, and leave with her creepy husband forever.  

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There are a lot of things that irritate me about Lisa but the one that makes me cringe the most is the reoccurring story line that all her male subordinates want to bang her. It has been mentioned and mocked in the individual episode threads but this has been happening since season 4 when there was a pic or something of Lisa on the wall at SUR and Jax was pretending to be overcome with how gorgeous she was. I mean, Lisa's not ugly. But there is no way any of these turds (even Schwartz) are panting after Lisa. Obviously they have made a calculation that doing this will help them stay on the show. And maybe it will (we'll have to wait and see if Brett sticks around). But to me it's just pathetic. 

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23 hours ago, Iris987 said:

 But there is no way any of these turds (even Schwartz) are panting after Lisa. Obviously they have made a calculation that doing this will help them stay on the show. And maybe it will (we'll have to wait and see if Brett sticks around). But to me it's just pathetic. 

Especially since I believe that Lisa is at the root of this behavior 😄 

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23 hours ago, Iris987 said:

Lisa's not ugly. But there is no way any of these turds (even Schwartz) are panting after Lisa.

Amen and hallelujah!

Lisa's neck resembles a vintage leather handbag. And her fake personality has become very apparent over the past couple years. 

Can we get an American Greed episode about LisaVilePumps? 

And please let those damn dogs WALK on their own, on the ground and without fucking dog tuxedos on them. They look like they're wearing straight jackets. 

I almost want to start a thread about Mr. Lisa (Ken) who is a marionette in the Lisa freak show. I think he's brain dead.

 

 

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Ok, this is why I think Lisa VanderPump is trash for today.  This behavior is not exactly trashy, but it’s an example of why I can’t stand her:

She’s fake.

On the Secrets Revealed episode, she pulled one of the waitresses, Charli, off the floor for a private meeting and said she heard that Charlie missed a shift.  Fine, I guess?  I mean, that is a big deal, and if she was really not there, she would have faced disciplinary measures, and in many restaurants, no call, no show is cause for termination.

But what really got to me was that Lisa then pulled something else out of thin air too:  She also said that she’d heard Charli was arguing with Brett in the restaurant, and I fell out with how fake (!!) this all is.  

Lisa on the one hand wants us to think she’s this fabulous businesswoman, which I don’t believe.  I think Ken got her at least to third on this home run of a life she seems to think she has.  I just re-watched the two seasons (six and seven) when TomTom was being built and she did not miss an opportunity to tell everyone and anyone who would listen how good she is at this game.

Ok then Lisa, if you’re so fucking good at this game, then you would hire managers whom you can trust and you will let them do their jobs.  If Lisa wasn’t there when Charli was fighting with Brett, presumably there was an incredibly competent manager on staff who could mete out discipline up to and including termination if the behavior warranted it.  Whether that manager disciplined Charli at the time was never mentioned, because it’s irrelevant.  These people are being paid to make asses of themselves at work.

And if that is the song they want to dance to, fine.  Lisa should never mention Charli’s shenanigans if she wasn’t going to do something about them.  She was just trying to drive a storyline, and as someone who used to work at a restaurant, I resent that.  It’s insulting.  It’s like if Lisa was running a medical clinic and she had nurses doing liver transplants without doctors and then she complained when the nurses didn’t do the transplants correctly, but she never fired any of them, nor hired any doctors, and just kept complaining about it.  It just doesn’t work that way if the person making the decisions is at all competent.  

So Lisa either doesn’t have managers that she trusts, which makes her a bad businessperson, or she doesn’t let them do their job which also makes her a bad businessperson.  If Lisa was bringing up the fight that Charli started with Brett as the first strike, and Charli’s failure to appear for work as her second strike, and Lisa was actually terminating Charli at that time, that would be fine.  But she will not terminate Charli, because fights are good for business, and I just don’t respect this half-assed discipline.  

They can have a show that is based at a restaurant without being so sneaky and stupid and redundant.  I’ve said this before—Lisa can just be an owner.  She can be someone who makes money off the business passively, but not as a manager, and she can just be someone who drops by her own restaurants for tea or rose and gossip with the employees.  That would be totally plausible.  

But her ego is so humongous that Lisa won’t do that.  She makes her own show significantly worse than it could be by pretending to wear all hats—friend, den mother, manager, and owner.  It just doesn’t work.  She sucks all the life and air out of reunions.  She’s not quite too old to be doing this, because if she was just a 59 year old server I would be fine with it.  I’ve worked with older servers before, and a lot of them are cool.  She simply can’t have this much power (which is a disguise for promoting drama, so that she can gain money and fame) and be enjoyable onscreen every single week.  It reeks of falsehood and insincerity.  Viewers know when they’re being lied to, I really believe that. 

If Lisa was just the owner, she could still show up to reunions (where they’re allowed to break the fourth wall) and if Andy asks her if she condones this or that behavior, she can just laugh and say that it brings in diners and viewers, so why not?  And then after one reunion segment, she could leave the fucking stage, because no one is here for her.  She could really be a lovely person if she would just scale herself back by a power of a hundred.  She’s such a baby though.  Everything has to be about her and her disgusting ego and how much people need her and how wise she is.  Her desperation is palpable.  

Since I’m on a tear, I’ll just say that I think her husband is the most awful enabler.  I just re-watched the whole series and he really is a buzzkill.  All he does is follow Lisa around with his crazy ass Rod Stewart hair (dude, you have a zillion dollars, cut your fucking hair!) with his mouth always reduced to a slit, never a smile, with a stupid looking dog dressed in couture on his arm, and he and the dog are always dressed in pastel.  Why is this man so joyless when he has so much money?  Does he have any idea how dumb he looks carrying those dogs?  Go have some fun, go have a laugh.  Life is not that long.  

One last thing that I have to get off my chest—I have been re-watching Real Housewives of Miami on demand and they have a commercial promoting re-watches and they show iconic little clips of each popular show, and the one of VanderPump has Lisa going, “What can I do if my staff is shagging each other?  I can’t very well fire the whole bloody staff!”  This is my problem with her in a nutshell.  First of all, you damn well can fire the whole staff, and I would find her so much more likable if she would.  Instead of talking down to them, if you don’t think they’re worthy, then fucking fire them.  Second of all, why do you care/why is it your business who is sleeping with whom as long as they are professional at work?  No one except the biggest old gossip queen stirrer cares about that shit, and that’s exactly who Lisa is. 

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19 hours ago, princelina said:

Especially since I believe that Lisa is at the root of this behavior 😄 

I thought that. But she cant be THAT insecure, can she? I was hoping it was one of those things where she knows what they are doing and isn't going to turn away compliments but isn't blind to their game. Then again, it has happened an awful lot this season. Maybe leaving RHOBH has damaged her self worth that she needs these obvious suck up comments to feel better.

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2 hours ago, Iris987 said:

I thought that. But she cant be THAT insecure, can she? I was hoping it was one of those things where she knows what they are doing and isn't going to turn away compliments but isn't blind to their game. Then again, it has happened an awful lot this season. Maybe leaving RHOBH has damaged her self worth that she needs these obvious suck up comments to feel better.

Of course she is that insecure - I would like to believe what you have suggested, but it's an awfully big coincidence that she got dumped from RHoBH and then Tom Schwartz (specifically) began waxing poetic about her beautiful daintiness (dainty beauty?). IMO her self worth has always been about others sucking up to her.

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On ‎5‎/‎25‎/‎2020 at 8:24 PM, Iris987 said:

There are a lot of things that irritate me about Lisa but the one that makes me cringe the most is the reoccurring story line that all her male subordinates want to bang her. It has been mentioned and mocked in the individual episode threads but this has been happening since season 4 when there was a pic or something of Lisa on the wall at SUR and Jax was pretending to be overcome with how gorgeous she was. I mean, Lisa's not ugly. But there is no way any of these turds (even Schwartz) are panting after Lisa.

Sexy septuagenarian businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks has always struck me as a third rate Joan Collins impersonator and an opportunist. When Billie was hired as one of the servers, I knew it was just a ploy for inclusive LGBT ally Lisa Vanderbucks to engage in moral exhibitionism about how awesome she was for hiring Billie during the obligatory gay pride festivities (was this the same year as the Pulse nightclub shooting, when she humblebragged about keeping a stiff upper lip and being open that day?).

6 hours ago, princelina said:

Of course she is that insecure - I would like to believe what you have suggested, but it's an awfully big coincidence that she got dumped from RHoBH and then Tom Schwartz (specifically) began waxing poetic about her beautiful daintiness (dainty beauty?). IMO her self worth has always been about others sucking up to her.

Speaking of which, wasn't there a storyline in the first season of RHoBH in which compassionate businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks had taken in a hot young man with an Oliver Twist life story who turned out to be a swindler or something who had been stroking her ego?

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7 hours ago, Ubiquitous said:

Speaking of which, wasn't there a storyline in the first season of RHoBH in which compassionate businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks had taken in a hot young man with an Oliver Twist life story who turned out to be a swindler or something who had been stroking her ego?

Yes - I can't remember his name.  But I do remember her enjoying bossing him around like she does the VPR cast, and he pretty much went along with it like they do.  But once when he didn't she was quick to remind him of all she's done for him so he'd better do what she says!

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1 hour ago, princelina said:

Yes - I can't remember his name.  But I do remember her enjoying bossing him around like she does the VPR cast, and he pretty much went along with it like they do.  But once when he didn't she was quick to remind him of all she's done for him so he'd better do what she says!

I think his name is Cedric. 

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6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I think his name is Cedric. 

That's it!

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6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

I think his name is Cedric. 

Oh, man! I forgot all about him from the early days of RHoBH! There was some scandal about their falling-out at the time, but I don't remember the details.

I find Lisa immensely entertaining (she does seem like a long-lost Collins sister), but I agree she's most likely a manipulative narcissist.  I think that's why she fascinates me - I'd love to know the real story behind the fairy-tale facade she's built. How did she and Ken REALLY make their fortune? Were they just very clever business people? The restaurant trade is one of the toughest, with the thinnest margins, even for people with lots of know-how. What is Ken's background? All I've ever heard is that he was a playboy when he met Lisa. I stopped watching RHoBH years ago, so I'm also not sure what the catalyst was for the massive falling out Lisa had and her departure he show.

Anyway, I'd have to assume there are probably plenty of skeletons in the walk-in closets of Villa Rosa.

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I thoroughly enjoyed LVP on the early seasons of RHoBH. I wouldn’t say I liked her because I don’t think I’ve ever truly liked any Real Housewife but I found her entertaining. Even after she started to reveal the less likable side or her personality, I still rooted for her on that show because I found the other women to be so much more hateful than she was. But on VPR she is completely insufferable. She has been from the very beginning but it’s gotten worse with each passing season and this last season, when she no longer had RHoBH to promote herself, she was downright unbearable. 

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19 hours ago, princelina said:

Yes - I can't remember his name.  But I do remember her enjoying bossing him around like she does the VPR cast, and he pretty much went along with it like they do.  But once when he didn't she was quick to remind him of all she's done for him so he'd better do what she says!

That's b/c Cedric (thanks for reminding me!) knows better than to bite the hand that feeds him.

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27 minutes ago, Ubiquitous said:

That's b/c Cedric (thanks for reminding me!) knows better than to bite the hand that feeds him.

Except he did (bite the hand).  He sold stories about Adrienne Malouf to Daily Mail or some other rag and Lisa caught the heat for it from Adrienne.  

I've always liked Lisa, especially on RHoBH, even though there was cringe behavior from time to time.   I certainly liked her better than any of the current crop on that show.  Not watching the new season because frankly (and I may be in the minority), I do NOT like either Erika Jayne, Lisa Rinna or Vyle Kyle.  

But really, it's time for Bravo to get new shows.  All the Ho'Wives, except maybe New York, have run their course.  VPR and the Shahs are over as well.  But please keep Million Dollar Listing - because we LOVE our real estate porn on both coasts!

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I like Lisa Vanderpump.  She brings great house and party porn.  I find her funny and I dont mind the boss making appearances at her business. 

I will always love her for sharing the greatest way to end an argument that is just going round in circles:  Oh look!  The ponies are by the pool!  It is 100 percent worth the WTF looks from the other people.

I adore Ken.  I love how he is completely ride or die for his wife.  His love for animals and his "dont give a fuck" what anyone thinks about him carrying a little dog in the crook of his arm.

Ken is responsible for my all time favorite VR moment.  He made James cry.  "I'll knock the spark out if you".  70 something man, carrying a little dog in the crook of his arm and he made the White Kanya cry.

Just the best!

 

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She’s on the show way too much. It’s weird and gross the comments Schwartz makes about her. She has a trainer who she ogles which is gross. She actually ruins the show for me honestly.

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I like Lisa fine, it’s her staff that are disgusting, imo. 

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On 5/31/2020 at 8:08 AM, dosodog said:

I adore Ken.  I love how he is completely ride or die for his wife.  His love for animals and his "dont give a fuck" what anyone thinks about him carrying a little dog in the crook of his arm

I love a man who carries a little dog/cat in the crook of his arm. Even if he is married to Lisa. Lol.

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On 5/25/2020 at 9:45 PM, gingerella said:

I find LVP highly entertaining, I enjoy her. YMMV. 

I love her, mostly for the dog saving, but it’s love nonetheless. 

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Waves to Jel!  Hello!  How are you!  Nice to see you on the boards.

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8 hours ago, dosodog said:

Waves to Jel!  Hello!  How are you!  Nice to see you on the boards.

Waves back! Hi Dosodog! Nice to see you too 😊 

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From the reunion...

She needs a makeover stat.  She is hanging onto some outdated form of youth by a thread, and it looks awful.  Everything she wears is straight out of the nineties, sometimes the eighties.   Does she know how current she’d look if she’d bob her hair instead of having this wild lion’s mane?  She always has the same look, with the shirt buttoned down to the navel and a lot of tacky jewelry.  Lisa, what is beneath that shirt that you think anyone wants to see?  They’re just some really saggy, fairly large natural breasts.  Cover that shit up.  And wear a different lip.  “Shiny bubblegum” has been pretty much her only look since we’ve met her.  

Take some risks, make some choices.  What’s going on is not working.  Oh, and the high-waisted belt with the big silver buckle.  I can’t understand what’s going through her head when she straps that on?  Is she looking at her shiny satin shirt with its huge buttons and her four necklaces and does she think, “you know, there is just not enough bling here.  I need the belt with the giant silver buckle.  That will complete this”?  Cause no, just no, honey.  

Why doesn’t she look at someone who has fashion sense and emulate it?  Just off the top of my head, Kenya wore a gorgeous off-white dress to her RHOA reunion during quarantine that showed no cleavage and Jennifer from RHNJ wore a totally cute short sparkly turtleneck dress.  I just watched the season seven RHNYC reunion and pretty much everyone looked better than her.  She’s stuck in a time warp.  Would it kill her to change something up?

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This would look so good on her:

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Can she not take a risk?  

She’s not ballsy enough to have this hair 

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even though it would look so much better on her, because she is not confident, even though she pretends to be.  That’s why she’s constantly has sycophants around her.  She can’t stand dissent.  She seems to think she has to look Uber feminine in a very daytime soap type of way, and I’m just going to say about her what Lala said to Billie Lee in season seven:  “You’re boring to look at.”  

I have no idea if she could be a beautiful woman because she does herself so many disfavors in the looks department.  

I was going to devote my entire post to something different—which I’ll post next—but I felt like this needed to be discussed first and foremost. 

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She’s worse than a liar, she’s disingenuous.  She just says whatever is expedient.  I don’t believe a word that comes out of her mouth.  If she says something, it’s probably the opposite.  

So, at the reunion, Jax and Sandoval were in this whole back and forth about whether Sandoval held Max to the same standard as he held Jax vis a vis Max’s “racially inappropriate” tweets, and Lisa jumps in, tells Jax to shut up and says, in part, “If I fired every one of you that made mistakes, it doesn’t matter to what degree, probably none of you would have a job.”

Sooo many problems with that statement. So, now she’s leveling the playing field by putting “racially inappropriate” and “racially insensitive” tweets in with all other mistakes, like wearing mismatching socks?  It doesn’t matter to what degree?  Is she kidding?  Nice way to muddle the issue. The human condition is to make mistakes.  We are all flawed.  We’re born flawed and we will die flawed.  Lisa, too, makes mistakes, but not all mistakes are created equal and she knows that.  She’s just trying to spin it away from her.  

Don’t only a handful of them anymore “work for” her on the show?  Is she talking about the big picture, like being EP?  I don’t think she has exclusive hiring and firing power there either.  So, what is she talking about?  

If she wants to say to err is human, why doesn’t she include herself in that statement too?  Taking the racial aspect out of it, which is really hard, because racism is a big deal, or at least she pretends it is to her, why can’t she say that if everyone got fired for making a mistake, nobody would have a job, including her?  It’s because she really thinks she’s above all the peons.  Meanwhile, these people are living in multi-million dollar houses.  And they got there by making mistakes that she encouraged.  So cool it with the double-talk, sis.  

Then she tries to do damage control by telling Max he has “a very diverse family.”  She’s saying that so she doesn’t look bad, so she doesn’t look like someone who “employs” a racist.  Come on.  

Then Lisa says that if she had any inkling that Brett and Max felt that way now, they wouldn’t be working for her.  Why doesn’t Lisa tell us what her statute of limitations is on racism?  That would actually require deep thought and honesty, so of course she doesn’t have to say it.  She just gets to cover her ass so that no one starts a social media campaign against her and ruins her business.  That’s all she gives a shit about.  

That’s why she covered for Brittany with the pastor.  Lisa can tell Andy that Brittany was blind-sighted when she called her and told her about the pastor?  No, that’s not fitting the narrative.  Brittany had just finished divulging that she saw a tweet from the pastor and texted him to ask him if he was homophobic and she took whatever response he gave as the truth.  That is the opposite of being “blind-sighted.”  

Their stories that they are telling within seconds of each other don’t jive, but Lisa’s story has to reign supreme, even as Brittany is telling us that she was not blind-sighted, because it would create a big media problem for Lisa if anyone thought she supported someone who supported homophobia.  How does she get away with this shit?  Brittany was not blind-sighted.  Lisa may have wanted her to have been blind-sighted, but she was not, but why bother with the truth when a convenient narrative is handy?  

This is why I say she is disingenuous and I don’t believe a word she says.  People will put the truth out there, and as they are saying the truth, as sordid as it is, she is spinning it into gold and covering her ass and partially covering the asses of the people around her, while also allowing them to get some mud on them.  And we’re supposed to be charmed by that, which is the most insulting part.  Call me crazy, but I prefer someone who has a halfway decent relationship with the truth.  She couldn’t care less about the truth, she cares about how she looks so that she can line her pockets.  

She’s kind of always been this way, as people pointed out up thread about calling attention to herself through her antics with Cedric since season one of Beverly Hills, but now she is just lying through her teeth about serious issues, so I’d say she’s trending steeply downward.  

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Hey did Vyle Richards start this thread?

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Sexy septuagenarian businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks has always struck me as a third rate Joan Collins impersonator and an opportunist.

Jackie, not Joan. Please.

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Lisa does need to update her look...no doubt about that...she’s very dated, but, to me, it’s not a character flaw. It’s difficult for some women to let go of styles they wore when they were in their prime. It’s sort of sad. I never thought Kyle would get a real hairstyle, but, it happened. Lisa R. still reverts back to her dated style a lot. It’s difficult to understand....

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For whatever it’s worth, outdated 80’s style and all, I can’t help but always love LVP. Always will, and same goes for her scruffy-gruff hubby Ken too; much like the way I feel about Bethenny Frankel, I can overlook all the many, many, MANY obvious character/style flaws for all her many other good/positive attributes. Her commitment to charity/dogs, her witty attitude, her kindness to fans/business associates/staff and her obvious business savvy just will never be lost on me.

That being said, this is an interesting batch of interview snippets from Faith on Instagram about her time on the show: 

She has nothing but glowing things to say about Lisa and obviously loves her to this day. But she was NOT treated right by some of the cast(Stassi/Kristen) and deserved to have her side of that love triangle story told; glad she had the class to leave when she did but I wish she’d at least stuck around for another season. Shame on the producers as well for not giving her the platform she deserved that season and deliberately glossing over her story. As for Stassi, just as I’ve always suspected, she’s stealth racist AF.

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On 5/21/2020 at 4:15 PM, Bravosukdeeznutz said:

I have been watching since the first episode and I got hooked...Still my favorite Bravo show is Southern Charm. Ok. Back to my point.

Lisa is manipulative and we see it through many aspects of the shows she appears in. I guess giving Tom another bar is a gift for his loyalty? You can clearly see he attacked Jax or Jason for that whole priest thing for her.

 

We see you Mr. Taylor. We see your pain of watching your two loser friends get gifted a bar...and for what? Let’s talk about Tom #1..the same Tom who was mentally abusive to Katie. Oh, and he still is...Let us give Mr. Schwartz a bar when he clearly has a problem handling his liquor. That guy grosses me out with his out of shape pre pubescent body..Yes, I am body shaming him, as he deserves to be after telling his wife she turns him off. Tom #2 is just as repulsive with his Whiney voice. Clearly, Ariana is with him for his femininity and she should find another woman. We can see Ariana and Jax share the same thought process.. Why did Lisa Vanderpump give Tom a freakin bar? Ariana and Jax are depressed about it. Lisa, you are clearly ruining lives with your poor decision making.

 

Lisa you are a P.O.S.   People like you go to hell.  Your Mother and brother didn’t like you as a person but loved you because you were family. You use people as stepping stones. I can’t even believe your children are still in your life. I think you have manipulated them so well that they don’t know a real Mother’s love. You should be ashamed of the human you are. Make changes before it is too late. 

Great, she helps the animals and gays...but it is for her benefit as a social climber. Look at the new lady in the picture carrying her dog and kissing her ass. Lol  you look like a clown. Wow, lower you and your husband for money. I guess some of us have morals. Just not you, Lisa or anyone that gets involved with that old bat for money. Take the stick out of your ass and maybe you won’t walk so weird, Lisa.

 

 

Did you know her family personally? If not I think it’s nearly impossible to surmise that her mother and brother “didn’t like her.” Lisa is far from perfect (just like the rest of us) and has done some shady things on the shows over the years. But her husband and children seem to adore her so I’m not sure why she needs to make any changes as far as her familial relationships go. 
 

As for her advocacy work, I feel similar to how I feel about Bethenny’s charity work. As in—I don’t give a rip if it’s being done partially or entirely out of ego, as long as it’s being done, period. Love her or hate her, there’s no denying that Lisa has done a lot of work for animals. 

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19 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

From the reunion...

She needs a makeover stat.  She is hanging onto some outdated form of youth by a thread, and it looks awful.  Everything she wears is straight out of the nineties, sometimes the eighties.   Does she know how current she’d look if she’d bob her hair instead of having this wild lion’s mane?  She always has the same look, with the shirt buttoned down to the navel and a lot of tacky jewelry.  Lisa, what is beneath that shirt that you think anyone wants to see?  They’re just some really saggy, fairly large natural breasts.  Cover that shit up.  And wear a different lip.  “Shiny bubblegum” has been pretty much her only look since we’ve met her.  

Take some risks, make some choices.  What’s going on is not working.  Oh, and the high-waisted belt with the big silver buckle.  I can’t understand what’s going through her head when she straps that on?  Is she looking at her shiny satin shirt with its huge buttons and her four necklaces and does she think, “you know, there is just not enough bling here.  I need the belt with the giant silver buckle.  That will complete this”?  Cause no, just no, honey.  

Why doesn’t she look at someone who has fashion sense and emulate it?  Just off the top of my head, Kenya wore a gorgeous off-white dress to her RHOA reunion during quarantine that showed no cleavage and Jennifer from RHNJ wore a totally cute short sparkly turtleneck dress.  I just watched the season seven RHNYC reunion and pretty much everyone looked better than her.  She’s stuck in a time warp.  Would it kill her to change something up?

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This would look so good on her:

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Can she not take a risk?  

She’s not ballsy enough to have this hair 

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even though it would look so much better on her, because she is not confident, even though she pretends to be.  That’s why she’s constantly has sycophants around her.  She can’t stand dissent.  She seems to think she has to look Uber feminine in a very daytime soap type of way, and I’m just going to say about her what Lala said to Billie Lee in season seven:  “You’re boring to look at.”  

I have no idea if she could be a beautiful woman because she does herself so many disfavors in the looks department.  

I was going to devote my entire post to something different—which I’ll post next—but I felt like this needed to be discussed first and foremost. 

I’m no fashionista, but I agree she needs to update her look and stop showing her cleavage so much.  I think Lisa has looked her most beautiful when she was shown in jeans and a shirt.

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Did you know her family personally? If not I think it’s nearly impossible to surmise that her mother and brother “didn’t like her.”

People make judgements about reality TV personalities and their families all the time, especially on here, without knowing them personally. LVP is just as fair game for that as any other reality TV personality.

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On 5/27/2020 at 12:36 PM, LibertarianSlut said:

Ok, this is why I think Lisa VanderPump is trash for today.  This behavior is not exactly trashy, but it’s an example of why I can’t stand her:

She’s fake.

 

I was having an extra shitty week, but now I feel a little better after reading your posts! 

 

On 5/27/2020 at 9:22 PM, Ubiquitous said:

Sexy septuagenarian businesswoman Lisa Vanderbucks has always struck me as a third rate Joan Collins impersonator and an opportunist. When Billie was hired as one of the servers, I knew it was just a ploy for inclusive LGBT ally Lisa Vanderbucks to engage in moral exhibitionism about how awesome she was for hiring Billie during the obligatory gay pride festivities

Third-rate Joan Collins impersonator! That's brilliant! You're so funny.  Even more accurate would be Third-rate Wannabe-JC impersonator! 

 

On 5/28/2020 at 1:13 PM, Cheezwiz said:

Oh, man! I forgot all about him from the early days of RHoBH! There was some scandal about their falling-out at the time, but I don't remember the details.

I find Lisa immensely entertaining (she does seem like a long-lost Collins sister), but I agree she's most likely a manipulative narcissist.  I think that's why she fascinates me - I'd love to know the real story behind the fairy-tale facade she's built. How did she and Ken REALLY make their fortune?

From gay bars in the UK.  Howard Stern asked that when Brandi Glanville was on his show.  If you open up a business in the beginning stage of something, you can find a market for it and make a fricking fortune.  A lot of it has to do with timing.  I mean, I don't resent their wealth (yes, really), because they obviously found a niche for it, but that doesn't make her a good businesswoman.

And she may have the money, but she is absolutely NOT above ANY of these shitheads who work at her restaurant. 

On 6/4/2020 at 6:07 AM, LibertarianSlut said:

From the reunion...

She needs a makeover stat.  She is hanging onto some outdated form of youth by a thread, and it looks awful.  Everything she wears is straight out of the nineties, sometimes the eighties.   Does she know how current she’d look if she’d bob her hair instead of having this wild lion’s mane?  She always has the same look, with the shirt buttoned down to the navel and a lot of tacky jewelry.  Lisa, what is beneath that shirt that you think anyone wants to see?  They’re just some really saggy, fairly large natural breasts.  Cover that shit up.  And wear a different lip.  “Shiny bubblegum” has been pretty much her only look since we’ve met her.  

I'm all for if-you've-got-it-flaunt-it, but she doesn't have it, so why is she shoving them in our faces??? 

Wish she would stop saying "If I fired anyone every time (insert something shitty here), I'd have no employees.", like it's not her fault that she hires and KEEPS these dickheads.  Bullshit!  Of course you can fire them and ffs, have some pride in your workplace and hire some credible employees!  Maybe ones with a modicum of decency who will NOT constantly steal from you???

 

I absolutely DESPISE that fake British 'tude she puts on with her accent, like, if she says it with a British accent, she'll sound classier.  It doesn't.  And for the love of god, STOP talking French.  You sound awful.  Her accent is atrocious.

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Was the name of this thread changed and if so, what did it used to be called?

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On 6/5/2020 at 1:38 PM, Hiyo said:

People make judgements about reality TV personalities and their families all the time, especially on here, without knowing them personally. LVP is just as fair game for that as any other reality TV personality.

Sure and it’s fair game for others to disagree. 
 

Plus I never said she *wasn’t* fair game. I simply asked a question about a rather bold claim that was made. 

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20 hours ago, SarahPrtr said:

Wish she would stop saying "If I fired anyone every time (insert something shitty here), I'd have no employees.", like it's not her fault that she hires and KEEPS these dickheads.  Bullshit!  Of course you can fire them and ffs, have some pride in your workplace and hire some credible employees!  Maybe ones with a modicum of decency who will NOT constantly steal from you??

Yes!! She's used this mantra so many times. She's getting paid lots of money from Bravo to keep this VPR show going. Her shitty, gossiping, lazy employees are just Lisa's marionettes in the grand scheme of things. LVP is getting paid (by Bravo) exponentially compared to her dumbass employees.

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On 6/7/2020 at 7:18 AM, chenoa333 said:

Yes!! She's used this mantra so many times. She's getting paid lots of money from Bravo to keep this VPR show going. Her shitty, gossiping, lazy employees are just Lisa's marionettes in the grand scheme of things. LVP is getting paid (by Bravo) exponentially compared to her dumbass employees.

i'm not sure she has the 'authority' to fire staff that are on the show.  they are being paid by bravo.  

 

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LvP is likely being silent because last week she was defending not firing Brett and Max on the reunion.  Putting out a statement is inviting that rebuttal.

I was really surprised they didn't edit the reunion P1 to protect LvP from having a recent defense of Max and Brett given all that was going on.  I'm even more surprised by that now that they've fired Stassi, Kristen, Max and Brett.

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1 hour ago, ParadoxLost said:

I was really surprised they didn't edit the reunion P1 to protect LvP from having a recent defense of Max and Brett given all that was going on.  I'm even more surprised by that now that they've fired Stassi, Kristen, Max and Brett.

At this time last week TPTB were probably under the impression that the old rules - issue a scripted apology, keep your head down, wait for the heat to die down, go back to business as usual - still applied and that they could "address" it and then move forward without making any fundamental changes. Another week of protests has perhaps convinced them that there's an actual cultural sea change happening, but now it's too late for them to go back and protect their stars.

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On James’s sobriety:

Andy decided to “give Lisa the last word” on the topic and she said she thought James had made great strides and that he ought to be proud of himself.  

Oh, strike that.  She said, “...when he decided to change his life around, I was there 100%.  So, yes, he’s back at SUR and he has his Tuesday nights when we open...”

So Lisa took snatched James’s victory and

  • Made it about herself as well as;
  • Used his sobriety to pimp her restaurants

All in the span of less than 30 seconds!

Meanwhile, the vast majority of the rest of the cast was so emotionally moved at the changes James made with the support of Raquel that they were dabbing at their eyes with tissues. 

Who has time for any of that when she can get free advertising for Tuesday nights?  

She is so crass and self-promoting and self-serving and shameless about it.  And no one says boo, because they’ve come to expect this from her.  What a small, horrid woman.  

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Yeah, I have to say after last week, I could only shake my head and mourn that my affection for Lisa was circling the drain.  

"Gee, shucks, We are so sorry for making those racist statements."  (which if you'll make on social media publicly no doubt you say privately to others).  

"Oh that's okay, it was a couple years ago."

Like fucking HELL it's okay. 

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But she tweeted “JusticeforFloyd”!  How could anyone doubt her sincerity?!

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9 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

On James’s sobriety:

Andy decided to “give Lisa the last word” on the topic and she said she thought James had made great strides and that he ought to be proud of himself.  

Oh, strike that.  She said, “...when he decided to change his life around, I was there 100%.  So, yes, he’s back at SUR and he has his Tuesday nights when we open...”

So Lisa took snatched James’s victory and

  • Made it about herself as well as;
  • Used his sobriety to pimp her restaurants

All in the span of less than 30 seconds!

Meanwhile, the vast majority of the rest of the cast was so emotionally moved at the changes James made with the support of Raquel that they were dabbing at their eyes with tissues. 

Who has time for any of that when she can get free advertising for Tuesday nights?  

She is so crass and self-promoting and self-serving and shameless about it.  And no one says boo, because they’ve come to expect this from her.  What a small, horrid woman.  

James desperately wanted her support and she gave him some tough love to help him turn himself around. He has done so and been sober for more than 10 months and she's rewarded him for his hard work by giving him back his Tuesday. What's wrong with letting us know that? I was glad to learn that and he lit up when she said it. Unlike Tom Schwartz and Brett's gross alleged lust for her, he thinks of her as a parent figure.

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Because she probably did mean it sincerely.  Look.  Almost all of us know and recognize KKK racism. The subtle, institutional racism we have been unaware of, or chosen to ignore is not as clear.  Whites in this country, maybe, hopefully, are actually soul searching and beginning the journey of recognizing what we have accepted, that we shouldn't have.  What we've ignored because it didnt hit us directly.

Even though we have had centuries to figure it out...  

When people show sincere remorse and true growth, I believe in eventual forgiveness. 

It is the rare person who makes it through this life without ever being an asshole, including racism born from hate or from ignorance. 

But it has to be real and it has to acknowledge what you did and leave out what it did to you.  

Having read Kristen's comments, I do believe her that from her end, it wasn't racially motivated, but once again her warped sense of "ride or die".  And I do think if she had understood the history surrounding false accusations made against African Americans, she would have hopefully stepped back.  But she didnt and she will pay a price for her racicism.

 

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1 hour ago, politichick said:

James desperately wanted her support and she gave him some tough love to help him turn himself around. He has done so and been sober for more than 10 months and she's rewarded him for his hard work by giving him back his Tuesday. What's wrong with letting us know that? I was glad to learn that and he lit up when she said it. Unlike Tom Schwartz and Brett's gross alleged lust for her, he thinks of her as a parent figure.

I suppose people believe that giving an addict or alcoholic multiple opportunities is a good thing. I think it can also be called enabling.  I wonder if any of these people, including Lisa have really obtained advice, information, and guidance on substance abuse.  Is continuing to work as James does a very wise decision?  It seems conducive to his relapsing.  I wish him well and hope he's healthy, but, it doesn't seem to be a very stable and safe place for someone with his propensities. I do think Lisa means well, but, she doesn't seem particularly informed.  She's just going on feelings and appearances, which alcoholics can easily manipulate. 

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2 hours ago, politichick said:

He has done so and been sober for more than 10 months and she's rewarded him for his hard work by giving him back his Tuesday. What's wrong with letting us know that?

I put what was wrong with it in bullet points in my post—she’s taking the attention off of James and putting it on herself and how noble she is and, worse, she’s using James’s recovery to promote her restaurant.  When given an opportunity to talk about a big moment for someone, whether it’s a speech or a toast or a public comment, one is supposed to focus on the subject of the question, not themselves.  I would feel crass even using the word *I* and I’d avoid it if I could.  

It’s like two steps away from promoting your place of business in a eulogy, which I don’t think is beneath her at all.  But for laughs, of course, dah-ling!  

That’s the “what” and the “why” is because Lisa VanderPump is trash.  

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