Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[ScoobieDoobs]

Er, to the producer/writers, hate to break it to ya, but clearly ya have to be told this -- MEN DON'T GET THAT CLOSE TO EACH OTHER!  We've seen this several times before, where Adam's & Billy's lips are literally almost touching.  WTF with this?  Unless they're going for a gay moment btw those 2, this is way off.  Sheesh, there's not even that kinda chemistry btw them -- or Adam with anyone, especially Chelsea.  And speaking of Chelsea, she could so easily be written out & not missed in the least!

Oh Daniel, STFU -- what are ya gonna do . . . punch Sharon in the face?  What a loser.

Idk, Sharon has gotta be dreaming cuz Nick was NOT his usual dumb & useless self.  In fact, he was shockingly quite the opposite.  He wasn't just pulling a white knight act, he was making a lot of sense in his defense of Sharon to the 2 morons that are Daniel & Summer.

And Mikey?  Well, we got a reminder of just how humongous his ego is.  But he does like a challenge.  So yeah, he's gonna defend & help Sharon.  And while he mentioned Phyllis, to acknowledge the annoying reaction that'll predictably come from her when she wakes up (in 10 years -- please, please, please), he'll still take Sharon's case.

Ian saying "obedience" gave me the icks.  What a charmer, eh?  Yuck.

 

Edited November 21 by ScoobieDoobs

[boes]

1 hour ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

And speaking of Chelsea, she could so easily be written out & not missed in the least!

So true.  I immediately forget Chelsea exists the second she's off screen and slightly startled and completely dismayed when she reappears.  She's like Casper the Soul Sucking Ghost.

I felt my soul leaving my body when she and Connor started their PSA on whatever's a possible trigger for Connor this time and was heading for the light by the time Chelsea was praising him once again for not becoming the world's youngest serial killer.

Though, if he's at all heading in that direction, I DO have a list he can start with, and they're all within walking distance.....

Speaking of heading towards the light, is there any way Phyllis could be nudged more quickly in that direction?  Though I suppose the Powers on the Other Side must be pushing her back in our direction as forcefully as we shove her towards them.

Every time Daniel starts thundering retribution I've taken to remembering him stalking around town in that Big Blue Shirt that hung down to his knees, the one that made him look like he'd dressed himself for kindergarten and it brings a smile to my face.......Good times, ah yes, good times.......

[NinjaPenguins]

6 hours ago, boes said:

Every time Daniel starts thundering retribution

My favorite part of Daniel’s avenging angel shtick is that he thinks he has any say in whether Sharon serves hard time in a supermax or gets bundled off to a psychiatric hospital. 

Daniel will never forgive Sharon. Oh noes! Cassie’s death set off a chain of events leading to Summer’s existence, so guess what, buddy? No one will ever forgive you either. 

[Kemper]

A quick change of subject since the holidays are near. I have noticed that most all of the romantic couplings in the Hallmark Christmas Movies have more chemistry than any of the relationships on this show. That is really something.

We get Ian, Aunt Jordan - not a couple but a terrible (to me) storyline, whatever pairing, so far, that might come from the Neal storyline, Victoria and Cole, Adam and Chelsea, Claire and Kyle, etc.  No fun or fireworks. No smoldering - although I do think that Sally and Billy have a possibility. Yikes! We sure could use some believable romance that keeps you wanting to see how it goes. 

And I will never again mention that Sharon Case has had no storyline for ages.  🙄

Edited November 21 by Kemper

[Joimiaroxeu]

Arriving late to yesterday's episode party:

When Sally walked into the coffeehouse, Chelsea was eyeballing her like, "Here we go again." Right there with ya, Chelz.

Loved Diane's long coat. Are those back in style?

Michael and Nick should not have let Daniel and Sharon interact. No good was ever going to come of it.

I will never understand how Adam has the stones to say anything rude to Billy ever. There are no bygones for killing someone's child.

I think Chelsea's another one who needs to stay away from the person she harmed by her selfish behavior. Guess Chelsea counts on Sally's own messy past to give her the semblance of grace.

Identity swap. Well it's been a while since Y&R used the doppelgänger ruse. Hopefully we'll never have to see Jordan's ersatz twin. IMO CZ eats enough scenery as it is. 😈

Good grief, Chelsea, shut up! AFAIC Sally doesn't need to keep being a cheerleader for you and Adam.

It's clear Jordan and Ian don't truly trust each other. Yep, no honor among psycho criminals. Or obedience.

[MollyB]

13 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Billy witnesses a fake fight between Jack and Diane at the Abbott manse. He buys it completely.

Wow.  When the ruse is revealed, Billy is gonna be even more pissed at Jack for not trusting him and letting him in on the big fake.  I'm beginning to feel sorry for Billy.  (!!!)

[TVForever]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

 

IMO CZ eats enough scenery as it is. 😈

Completely agree! I keep wondering if this is a deliberate acting or directing choice, because she wasn't nearly so "over the top" in all those years on ATWT.

1 hour ago, MollyB said:

Wow.  When the ruse is revealed, Billy is gonna be even more pissed at Jack for not trusting him and letting him in on the big fake.  I'm beginning to feel sorry for Billy.  (!!!)

I only feel sorry for the way Jill did him so dirty. I do NOT appreciate the way he thought Jack was supposed to instantly give him Diane's "former" job just to let Billy save face. And then to see him throw a hissy fit when Jack had to say no without a complete explanation. Jack doesn't owe Billy like that. Billy just needs to grow up and learn to sit with his disappointment for a little bit.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Kyle was at the coffeehouse buying chocolate chip muffins for Harrison. Surely Mrs. Martinez can make those at home.

Heh, I bet Elena's had more lines this week than she's had the whole year so far.

Come on, did Daniel need to dump all his personal drama on Elena too? She's Phyllis' ICU doctor, not Daniel's therapist.

Billy wants to gather up an Abbott brother posse to deal with that dastardly varmint, Victor. Sigh, just take the L on Abbott-Chancellor, Billy. Victor's not worth more trouble.

Hey, it's Lucy! She's become quite the young jetsetter.

Chance walked in the coffeehouse unnoticed and got to witness his girlfriend and her ex having a caring moment. IKR, Chance? But you should've seen that reconnection coming down Broadway.

More bonding between Sally and Billy. I love the way they match each other's energy.

Whatever on dumping Chance, Summer. Phillip Chancellor IV was slumming by dating you and you know it. He should feel like "good riddance to spawn of Phyllis rubbish."

Where were Diane and Jack sitting when they were having their secret talk about Kyle? It looked like the same set used for Heather's funeral, but without the AI cemetery in the background.

Red's awake. Lucy is the Grandma Phyllis miracle worker. 🙄

Edited November 21 by Joimiaroxeu

[NinjaPenguins]

A Simple Recap - Come for the Pity Party, Stay for the Man Pain

Daniel blames himself for Phyllis’s accident. Elena wisely points out that if he were truly responsible, the mayor would be at the hospital pinning a medal on his chest.

Kyle coos at baby Summer and even cheers on the comatose assclown who took a blowtorch to their marriage. Chance sees them sharing a warm moment and realizes he’s almost free. Kyle leaves to find a plunger that will pull his lips back out, and Summer caw caws at Chance. Like all Newmans, she believes the GCPD is a subsidiary of Newman Enterprises and owes her gross family special favors.

Billy asks Jack for Diane’s old job. Jack bites his lip and declines. He also looks momentarily disgusted when Billy tells him that Victor is giving Chancellor to Nikki. What an embarrassment of riches available to Jabot - a thin-skinned, nepo baby corporate thief or an emo, nepo baby embezzler. Instead of just telling Billy about the ruse to save Kyle from his own stank attitude, Jack rejects him and lets him believe he’s a fuck up.

Poor, friendless Lucy is back with newfound self esteem and a potential boyfriend named Scotty. Auntie Summer, having discarded another man who wouldn’t kiss the family backside  arrives at the hospital to complete the circle of suck around Phyllis’ bedside. Lucy wants to be alone with Grandma Pee Pee to see if her raptor-whispering classes have paid off.

Jack and Diane meet on a park bench, conspicuously acting like a couple of teens trying to sneak a vape. Diane is super excited to reward Kyle with the position he wanted all along, but Jack would prefer their son stop being a petulant dickweed before he gets a treat.

Billy’s drowning his sorrows again, but at least he has a public make out session with Sally to brighten his day. The rest of us get the roundhouse kick to the larynx that is Lucy awakening the beast. Phyllis looks like absolute hell, which proves you can judge a book by its cover. Hopefully she has amnesia and forgets her personality. 

[Waldo13]

No Billy👃, the truths are not hatchet jobs.  So now you want Jack to hand you another job so you can fuck up Jabot.  Of course Billy👃can’t get a job on merit. 

Billy👃 groveling is a thing of beauty.  Yes Jack, Billy👃is behind you until he’s not.  

Summer❄️x6 just earned another ❄️.  How much 💩 did Manic Phyllis🕷️and Summer❄️6 put Chance through but Summer❄️x6 thinks Chance should forget about all that and take Manic Phyllis🕷️ word that Sharon killed Heather.  

If Sharon is such an evil person, then why are they still buying coffee from CL?  

It looks like Sally is going to give Billy👃a pity fuck but what Sally doesn’t realize it’s more about Adam than her. Both Nick🦍 and Billy👃 wanted to show Adam that they could easily have what he had.  I’m also sure that Sally doesn’t know that Billy👃 views woman as a conquest. 

WOW, Manic Phyllis🕷️ awakens and it’s still daylight 😉. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

OK, forgive me, cuz I'm gonna temporarily NOT fully process that THE BEAST HAS WOKEN, cuz I've kinda had to do a lot of not fully processing "stuff" lately.  Uh, so I'll leave that subject alone for now.

I'm more interesting in whether Lucy has finally gotten over her girl crush on Faith.  Hmmm, can Lucy overlook that Faith's mom is yammering endlessly that she murdered her mom?  Is Lucy now pointing her stalking tactics at some rando dude named Scotty?  Or will she still be stalking Faith -- and make granny proud?

Still like Sally & Billy as a couple.  But Billy alone?  Not so much.  Oh Billy, can ya whine anymore to Jackie?  Idk, Jackie coulda told him he'd give him some made-up pity job at Jabot.  Kinda cruel he didn't even do that.  Eh, can't say I care much -- or at all.

[One Tough Cookie]

n/m already covered.

Edited November 22 by One Tough Cookie

[One Tough Cookie]

19 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

punch Sharon in the face?  What a loser.

If he did imagine all the filler flying from her face!

[Js Nana]

23 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Billy tells his brother that he’s in a downward spiral and could disappear into his own nostrils if it continues.

A loud guffaw for "could disappear into his own nostrils"

3 hours ago, Waldo13 said:

If Sharon is such an evil person, then why are they still buying coffee from CL?

Because the Genoa City these folks inhabit is actually a 6-mile x 6-mile asteroid and Crimson Lights is the only cafe on it - but they did throw in a new park set on today's show, so that's something, I guess.

[boes]

I'm doing a lot of FF'ding right now, so I deliberately missed all scenes that involved Coma Phyllis and her family, but Lucy is now lusting after somebody named "Scotty"?  

Here's hoping it turns out to be 40ish Scotty Grainger, Lauren's son, so Lucy can continue her losing streak of unsuitable crushes.  Go for it, Lucy, you have a double dose of genetic material in you to make the absolute wrong choices.  

Jack missed a perfect opportunity with Billy.  He could have paid him a healthy salary to do nothing at Jabot but sit around with his head stuck up his own ass for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, and the world would owe him one.

Think on you feet, Jackie Boy!!

Edited November 22 by boes

[ezzylin]

On 11/20/2024 at 10:26 PM, ScoobieDoobs said:

Oh Daniel, STFU -- what are ya gonna do . . . punch Sharon in the face?  What a loser.

 

15 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Michael and Nick should not have let Daniel and Sharon interact. No good was ever going to come of it.

I found those scenes to be quite triggering, I don't know why. Daniel got way too close to Sharon, I honestly thought he was going to hit her. I was lurking on another Y&R site to see if anyone else found those scenes disturbing, but they overwhelmingly loved it, so maybe it's just me that was unsettled.

[NinjaPenguins]

4 hours ago, ezzylin said:

Y&R site to see if anyone else found those scenes disturbing, but they overwhelmingly loved it, so maybe it's just me that was unsettled

I understand where Daniel’s rage comes from, but I was also uncomfortable. It was kind of ironic that he was showing he was capable of violence against a woman after everyone and their brother insisted he was as gentle as a butterfly on a puppy’s nose. Again, Daniel’s anger is perfectly valid given what the situation appears to be, but I did think something ugly was maybe going to happen.

If the show could stop presuming we’re all brand new to the Phyllis experience (a colonoscopy/tooth extraction/pelvic exam mash-up), that would be swell. She’s straight up trash and no amount of tearful bedside scenes or words of praise coming out of her many victims’ mouths will change that. She just framed an innocent person for an imaginary murder, so it’s not like some of her worst behavior is ancient history. Daniel’s devotion is especially baffling considering she only told Summer she was alive after faking her own death, because Phyllis knew Daniel had a conscience.

Phyllis’ kids don’t need her for shit and they really shouldn’t let Lucy or Harrison anywhere near her. She’s a bad mother who has stolen from her children, bailed out her son’s rapist and emotionally traumatized her kids to the point where they interpret guilt trips and manipulations as love. Phyl’s friendships are all one-sided and she cheats on most of her romantic partners. She’s not strong and unstoppable; she’s just a self-absorbed bully. Good luck getting me to give a shit.

[Joimiaroxeu]

6 hours ago, boes said:

Lucy is now lusting after somebody named "Scotty"?  

Here's hoping it turns out to be 40ish Scotty Grainger, Lauren's son, so Lucy can continue her losing streak of unsuitable crushes. 

It's not Lauren's son, it's this guy from the classic movie (😉) Eurotrip:

Odds are Lucy's object of affection only exists in her imagination, or he has no idea who she even is.

Meanwhile, I think Matt Damon does a better job of acting like a rock star than Michael Damian playing Lucy's Grandpa Danny.

Edited November 22 by Joimiaroxeu

[Denize]

I immediately thought of Scott Grainger when Lucy was lusting after "Scotty". Perhaps Scott has a son that he doesn't know about but was named after him, a common occurrence on soaps.

[Sake614]

Speaking of Daniel, is that ink on MG’s arm new? It looks awfully bright and I don’t remember seeing it before. Of course I don’t pay much attention to him in general so I could have missed it.

[NinjaPenguins]

A Simple Recap - Fuck off

No, really. Fuck off, writer of drivel. Fuck off until the heat death of the universe. Then, if you’re so inclined, fuck off some more. Fuck off like you have never fucked off before. Is this malignant narcissism fanfiction?

Victor, one of the most odious creatures to ever lumber out from under Cthulu’s fat folds and onto dry land, has summoned Nick and Adam to the raunch so he can mumble about Sharon. Victor was forced to resurrect the mausoleum Sharon burned to the ground, yougotthat? Unfortunately she forgot to salt the earth. Nick says Sharon is not a threat, but Adam leans into his resurgent douchebaggery and throws her under a convoy. Victor announces he’s giving his awful wife a corporation to run and wants Adam to hype her unearned promotion. There’s some spirited Billy bashing.

You know, theoretically I’ve come to accept Billy and Sally as a couple, but it turns out I’m not ready to watch them do it.

Phyllis awakens after miraculously growing a second venom sac. Much to the dismay of civilized society, she hasn’t forgotten her plethora of personality disorders. You’d think she’d be over the moon to learn Daniel is free and Sharon has confessed, but you’d be underestimating the great, sucking void inside Phyllis and its insatiable hunger for validation. Chance indulges his masochism kink by questioning her about the accident. Summer gives him the big hairy stink eye. Watch Phyllis nearly blow a vessel when Chance tells her that Michael Baldwin is defending Sharon. “My Michael Baldwin???” Yeah, sorry, Phyllis. You forgot to pee on him. She verbally abuses Chance with such zest that she almost triggers another coma. Almost is the cruelest word in the English language.

Summer calls Nick, who arrives at the hospital just in time to hear Phyllis screeching that Sharon tried to kill her. Adam and his father go to the Athletic Club, where the cleaning crew is called in to sweep up the little pieces of Adam’s face after he sees Billy and Sally acting romantical.

PREVIEWS: Nate enters his pink era. The Abbott family greets Jack and Diane with torches and pitchforks. Imagine spending Thanksgiving with some of the most self-absorbed, vicious losers you know. Cole Howard doesn’t have to imagine.
 

[MollyB]

1 hour ago, NinjaPenguins said:

No, really. Fuck off, writer of drivel. Fuck off until the heat death of the universe. Then, if you’re so inclined, fuck off some more. Fuck off like you have never fucked off before. Is this malignant narcissism fanfiction?

Amen to the Amen.  Whole post is on point, Ninja.  Thank you.

[Joimiaroxeu]

Darn, I was hoping Phyllis would wake up with both amnesia and aphasia. GC would be a paradise if she couldn't remember anything and couldn't talk. Sure.

The weird red tint overlaying the Sally & Billy sexy times. What was that all about? It looked like bad 1970s porn. And bleh on the corny music too. Dear TPTB: you should've coughed up the $$ and paid for Sabrina Carpenter's song, Bed Chem.

I have to say though, the staging of that scene was daring. A couple of the coital positions shown probably hit the FCC's decency limits for daytime broadcast TV.

CHANCE?!??! WTAF is wrong with this guy? Phyllis had barely woken up and he was already in her face. Loved the death stares Summer was throwing at him.

Ugh, Victor got me out here rooting for Jordan and Ian and whatever chaos they're planning to wreak. I don't understand why Victor's suddenly moved into DEFCON status over Sharon.

Nothing like cuddling in the afterglow while discussing your mutual cheating exes. Aaarrrggghhh, stop it, Silly/Bally!

Speaking of unfaithful exes, yikes Adam. TMW you see your betrayed ex publicly sucking face with your archenemy. And they're clearly putting the finishing touches on some recent, um, adult activities. Adam's eyes almost popped out of his head. <snicker>

Re the previews for next week: the Newman Family Thanksgiving, where they count their blessings for what exactly? Being unrepentant @$$holes to anyone who'll let them? 😡

Edited November 22 by Joimiaroxeu

[Js Nana]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I was hoping Phyllis would wake up with both amnesia and aphasia.

Phyllis has been in a coma a great many times, at least three, with the longest one being when MS left the show back in 2013 - that one lasted for more than a few months.

[Waldo13]

Did the monkeys with a keyboard have to start the day with Sally kissing Billy👃and Manic Phillis🕷️waking up?  It sets the tone for the day 🤢🤢🤮. 

The truth comes out.  It was retribution for Adam and Chelsea but Billy👃 quickly covered his tracks and then said it was all about Sally. Sally, I don’t care what you say, it was revenge sex. 

Manic Phyllis🕷️don’t blame Chance. You were the one who didn’t want Sharon arrested. Of course Manic Phillis🕷️didn’t mention she was reading text messages while driving.  It’s going to be very unlikely that Chance would ping Sharon’s phone to know that she was at CL and couldn’t have sent those messages nor question Faith that Sharon couldn’t find her phone. 

 

Since the monkeys with a keyboard are so fond of rearranging character parings why don’t they put Sunmer❄️x6 back with Kyle and put Claire/Eve with Chance but keep Sally far away from Billy👃. 

 

[Js Nana]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

I don't understand why Victor's suddenly moved into DEFCON status over Sharon.

I had to laugh when the dialogue focused on both of his sons having been involved with her, leaving out the fact that Emperor Victor the First has been married to her TWICE - don't you wonder if the three of them ever discuss Sharon's bedroom acrobatics when it's just the three of them?

[One Tough Cookie]

2 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

CHANCE?!??! WTAF is wrong with this guy?

He's pretty, but a dim bulb.

[boes]

Starting at the previews - Nikki's breathless invocation of all the blessings she and the rest of her nest of vipers are grateful for upon this Thanksgiving would have been the perfect time for someone to pie her right in her self-satisfied face.  After all, it IS the holidays.

I never need to see Billy fully or partially naked and I never need to see him vertical, so today was a double whammy.  That music was.....interesting?  Who knew there was a Taste of Honey cover band?

But, very unwillingly, Billy and Sally are working for me.  He's never been easier to take than he is with her and she's not doing all the heavy lifting in this coupling that she was doing with Adam in their last go around.  Luckily, he still continues to be a big whiny nepo baby with zero insight and a long list of grievances, so he hasn't changed THAT much.  Otherwise, it would feel like the earth had reversed its axis.

Over at the Hell Mouth, Jabba the Hut had summoned his offspring so he could verbally pee all over Sharon.  Victor used to be Sharon's biggest defender, at least until his disastrous marriage to her, shortly before she burned down the Raunch.  That old toadstool nurses grievances like precious pimples he refuses to pop.

Adam was pretty skuzzy about Sharon, I thought.  He flucking stole her baby and handed her off to Ashley and Sharon FORGAVE him for that.  IMO he should always have her back, not talk smack about her with his odious father.

I wish that Elena had, when Phyllis woke from her coma, hit her on the head with a cartoon hammer and put her back in one again.  Just one big BOING, the sound of tweeting birds and blessed silence.

Show can such a drag lately.  It sure was today.

Edited November 23 by boes

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, Waldo13 said:

and put Claire/Eve with Chance

Now what did poor Chance ever do to deserve yet another Newman??

2 minutes ago, boes said:

wish that Elena had, when Phyllis woke from her coma, hit her on the head with a cartoon hammer and put her back in one again.  Just one big BOING, the sound of tweeting birds and blessed silence

Oh man, I’d have paid good money to see that happen!

[VanillaBeanne]

I was annoyed the writers broke up both Adam and Sally and Billy and Chelsea, but I’m suprised I don’t mind Billy and Sally.   Still don’t buy Adam and Chelsea as meant to be, no matter how many times the show tries to tell us they are.  The show has never shown this.   
 

I hate, hate, hate Adam, who is my favorite character, when he is Victor’s lap dog. 

[Js Nana]

18 hours ago, ezzylin said:

so maybe it's just me that was unsettled.

Not just you, but one thought that came to mind is that any cop who would let someone with a grudge get close to the object of that grudge is an asshole - but there was Chance, with his usual vacant eyed stare.

[Js Nana]

I have decided that I will ALWAYS fast forward through those obligatory soft-porn scenes of two characters who are hot-and-heavy for each-other performing mutual tonsil exams while frantically tearing off their clothing - I know it's what we all look like when we're in the throes of passion, but some things are just best left to the viewer's imagination.

[ScoobieDoobs]

KA-BOOOOOOM!!!  What was that sound?  Well, it was Adam's head exploding when he spotted Sally & Billy smooching.  And I liked it!  Especially after he was such an a-hole, bashing Sharon.

The Sharon bashing was getting really ugly & cruel & hard to watch.  Vic & Adam were sure piling on & then there was Daniel the dickhead.  Daniel has always been a douche-nozzle, but never more so than when he was gloating about Sharon to The Red Beast.

And The Red Beast was her usual awful self & made me scream STFU several times.  Poor Chance was just soft-spoken & stone-faced & taking her abusive crap.  At least he looked great.  On the upside for him, he doesn't have to look at the pouter pouting anymore.  Maybe that's why he remained so calm when faced with a screeching, babbling lunatic?

But The Red Beast's outbursts were scary and unhinged -- as usual for her.  So will her predictable hissy fit to Michael change his mind about defending Sharon?  Nah.  He does what he wants . . . except when it involves Vic.  Ah, but will Vic threaten Michael somehow to not represent Sharon?  How would he react to that?

Yeah, coulda lived w/o the soft porn Billy/Sally stuff, but it wasn't that bad cuz these 2 are good together.  They both seem "better" together than by themselves.  Sally is happier, and not the sad-sack she's been lately.  And Billy?  Well, we'll see if being with Sally will change him much.  I have my doubts, but we'll see.

Man, that preview of the Newman Thanksgiving gathering skeered me.  Looked like The Munsters meets The Adams Family.  And this gave me a thought of a prediction.  This is NOT a spoiler cuz I know nothing.  But with Vic's endless blathering about Sharon burning the last Newman mausoleum (er, ranch) and accusing Sharon of being "dangerous", I was thinkin' . . . what if the Evil Duo try to burn down the new mausoleum & frame Sharon?  Hmmmm.

Btw, what's with Ashley?  First, she calls Diane a b*tch at the wedding, and in the preview she looks like she's about to get one of the Abbott rifles & use Diane for target practice.  WTF?  Oh Ash, are those alters really obliterated, or are they still lurking around?  And will Dead Martin stir them up?

 

Edited November 23 by ScoobieDoobs

[lilmarysunshine]

On 11/21/2024 at 8:12 AM, NinjaPenguins said:

Daniel will never forgive Sharon. Oh noes! Cassie’s death set off a chain of events leading to Summer’s existence, so guess what, buddy? No one will ever forgive you either. 

Here is the thing, though … Daniel was a kid who got drunk and the teenager with a crush on him wanted to play hero and drive him home. Teenagers are known for their boneheaded decisions. None of it involved malice so I don’t know why they have spent almost two decades now (or maybe in show time) castigating Daniel when Cassie made the choice to drive without experience or a license except maybe misplaced anger because they cannot be mad at the dead one. 

[NinjaPenguins]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Here is the thing, though … Daniel was a kid who got drunk and the teenager with a crush on him wanted to play hero and drive him home. Teenagers are known for their boneheaded decisions. None of it involved malice so I don’t know why they have spent almost two decades now (or maybe in show time) castigating Daniel when Cassie made the choice to drive without experience or a license except maybe misplaced anger because they cannot be mad at the dead one

I was watching back then, and this rings true. However, I don’t feel Daniel was ever raged at, except by Nick the red assed baboon who was going to beat the brakes off Daniel before he was soothed by an unholy union with Phyllis. I completely agree Daniel did nothing malicious that night, but the grace given to a teenagers boneheaded decision ought to extend to Cassie too. She was even younger than Daniel. I honestly thought the eventual consensus among all those affected was that it was a tragic accident.

Though to be completely transparent, I was more making a wisecrack about Summer’s loathsome existence. Everyone who was directly or indirectly responsible for that needs to take accountability. I think a seagull pooping on Cassie’s stone ought to balance the scales.

[lilmarysunshine]

21 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

 

Though to be completely transparent, I was more making a wisecrack about Summer’s loathsome existence.

🤣

The 🍎 doesn’t fall far from the trees!

The fact that they call this grown woman “Super Girl” just grates. (Full disclosure - my husband sometimes calls our grown daughter by her baby nickname and yeah it is ridiculous but not grating. lol )

[boes]

If Summer's nickname was "Peanut Butter Breath", I'd find it totally endearing.

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, lilmarysunshine said:

🤣

The 🍎 doesn’t fall far from the trees!

The fact that they call this grown woman “Super Girl” just grates. (Full disclosure - my husband sometimes calls our grown daughter by her baby nickname and yeah it is ridiculous but not grating. lol )

Until the day he died (I was 34), my dad called me pumpkin. ❤️

I have no issue with nicknames but supergirl is just stupid lol!

[lilmarysunshine]

If I never have to see Billy’s legs spread out like that on top of anyone again I will die happy. 

[Joimiaroxeu]

16 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

He's pretty, but a dim bulb.

Yes he is but right now I hear even dim bulbs don't want to claim Chance. "Bruh, you're making us look bad. Just burn out already! Gah!"

15 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Now what did poor Chance ever do to deserve yet another Newman??

Hmm, after I thought about it for a minute I decided I much prefer the idea of Claire & Chance versus Claire & Kyle. Chance has a pedigree that's better than both Kyle and Claire's; his ancestor started the town of Genoa City. Plus, he's a gentleman and could help Claire lose her virginity with the utmost of kindness and care. Kyle's always looking for personal advantage and would likely make Claire regret being with him.

[Sake614]

16 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Hmm, after I thought about it for a minute I decided I much prefer the idea of Claire & Chance versus Claire & Kyle. Chance has a pedigree that's better than both Kyle and Claire's; his ancestor started the town of Genoa City. Plus, he's a gentleman and could help Claire lose her virginity with the utmost of kindness and care. Kyle's always looking for personal advantage and would likely make Claire regret being with him.

I guess I just don’t care enough about Claire as a character. And certainly not as this delicate flower who must be treated with the utmost care lest she break. If anything, she needs to loosen up. She’s just too rigid as currently written. I suppose that’s what happens when you become a Newman…😝

[Joimiaroxeu]

4 hours ago, Sake614 said:

I guess I just don’t care enough about Claire as a character. And certainly not as this delicate flower who must be treated with the utmost care lest she break.

I don't see Claire as a delicate flower either. In fact I fully believe she's slowly easing her way into the Newman corporate empire so she can take it over eventually. But when it comes to losing her virginity, I imagine she'd prefer not getting jackhammered by a selfish tool like Kyle.

[boes]

42 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

But when it comes to losing her virginity, I imagine she'd prefer not getting staplegunned jackhammered by a selfish tool like Kyle.

Fixed that for you.

[One Tough Cookie]

7 hours ago, Sake614 said:

Until the day he died (I was 34), my dad called me pumpkin. ❤️

My son is 39 [yikes{ and I still call him Sweetie Darling.  Now that he has a kid he asked us to knock it of.

[Js Nana]

11 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

when Cassie made the choice to drive without experience or a license

Cassie was 14 and, as those who are barely into their teen years are prone to do, impetuously chose to protect the shit-faced 18-year-old Daniel by driving him home - there's a big difference between the life experience of a 14-year-old and the life experience of an 18-year-old, and Daniel chose to engage in underage drinking until he was too drunk to drive. 

[boes]

2 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

My son is 39 [yikes{ and I still call him Sweetie Darling.  Now that he has a kid he asked us to knock it of.

Somebody is/was a fan of Absolutely Fabulous!

 

[Denize]

2 hours ago, One Tough Cookie said:

My son is 39 [yikes{ and I still call him Sweetie Darling.  Now that he has a kid he asked us to knock it of.

You could start calling the grandkid Sweetie Darling, if it fits

[lilmarysunshine]

18 hours ago, Js Nana said:

Cassie was 14 and, as those who are barely into their teen years are prone to do, impetuously chose to protect the shit-faced 18-year-old Daniel by driving him home - there's a big difference between the life experience of a 14-year-old and the life experience of an 18-year-old, and Daniel chose to engage in underage drinking until he was too drunk to drive. 

18 year old boys are not that mature, either. lol. ~ signed a high school teacher

In fact, they are even less mature if they deal with ADHD or even giftedness has asynchronous developmental issues.  

And nobody made her drive. It was a terrible tragedy but I will never see him as the villain there. 

Edited November 24 by lilmarysunshine

[NinjaPenguins]

I don’t think there were any villains in the accident that killed Cassie. She and Daniel both did dumb things; she just paid with her life. Well, maybe Nick was kind of a villain - Cassie told him that Daniel wasn’t driving before she died and he still went schmuck hunting.

Daniel unfortunately imo) has devolved into a loser who is surprisingly happy to feed his mother’s giant ego and entertain her bullshit. I can’t picture this guy telling Jack that Phyllis was actually alive. Proximity to Phyllis poisons even the best people; it’s like Daniel hasn’t even really done anything wrong, but he annoys the living shit out of me. I think MG is one of the better actors on the show, but stick him with his family and it’s a nope from me.

[Denize]

43 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Daniel unfortunately imo) has devolved into a loser who is surprisingly happy to feed his mother’s giant ego and entertain her bullshit. 

If Heather were still alive, she'd leave Daniel like she did in the past for similar behaviour.