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20 minutes ago, mayvenne said:

I don't know how it all translates with followers and $$$ but I do know it does relate for sure- so I am guessing Stephanie can endure the derogatory comments as she chuckles all the way to the bank.

In her Porsche.

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There is a social media feud going on between these two and their followers. It appears to have started with Erika's interview with EOnline which I cut and pasted in a spoiler tab for those who cannot see it. There is video at the link but I haven't watched it so I don't know what it said

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'90 Day Fiancé': Erika Responds to Internet Skepticism Over Stephanie's Sexuality (Exclusive)

 

90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days season 4 star Erika has very little regrets when it comes to her tumultuous relationship with Stephanie.

This season of the hit TLC reality series made history with Erika and Stephanie, who are the first LGBTQ couple to ever be featured on the franchise. Stephanie, a 29-year-old YouTube star from Yonkers, New York, connected with Erika -- a 24-year-old photographer from Australia -- online before Stephanie decided to make the visit to Australia to finally meet in person. But Stephanie's visit was awkward from the get-go, with Stephanie being very hesitant to show Erika any affection or intimacy despite making the big move to come to Australia. Some fans on social media have criticized Stephanie, accusing her of not actually being bisexual and going on the show for fame and to further her social media influencer career.

ET's Lauren Zima spoke to Erika ahead of part one of the 90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days Tell All, which airs on Sunday, and she commented on the accusations Stephanie has faced online about her bisexuality.

"Honestly, I can only speak for my experience and who I am," Erika says. "Sexuality is a very personal thing, and sometimes it takes, like, exploring yourself to be able to figure that out, you know? It sucks that at some points, it felt like the figuring out of things was at my expense, but I'm not gonna sit here and say that she is something or she isn't, because that's her own personal journey."

"I don't think it's fair for them to say that in the first place to a stranger and secondly, you know, to even make a judgment in the first place," she continues. "Of course, like, people can have their doubts or whatever, but like I've mentioned before, this is Steph's journey and its no one's place to, like, publicly go for her."

Erika tells ET she's currently single after her explosive breakup with Stephanie that was shown on camera. The two got into constant arguments this season over Stephanie being uncomfortable with a lot of situations, and Stephanie acknowledged that her real-life persona was much more conservative than how she portrayed herself to be online. Erika later told cameras that she wished Stephanie's entire visit to Australia never happened, which she still stands by.

"If I had known that a lot of the aspects of my lifestyle were dealbreakers for Stephanie, I would have said, 'Don't worry about coming,'" she shares. "This is who I am, and I'm not going to change that. Like, this is how I live my life. ... I travel a lot and I do a lot of things I guess regular people wouldn't do .... but Steph wasn't OK with a lot of parts of my life. And I probably would have just gone, 'Well OK, that's fine. I wish you would've told me that before you came here because I wouldn't have entered into it, you know?'"

"Honestly, we didn't sleep in the same room or even the same hotel room more than four nights, which was ... you know, I didn't actually get to spend a lot of time with her other than what you guys have seen," she adds of Stephanie's visit. "You know, she is fun or whatever, but at the same time I was very taken aback by her problems with some of the dates or, you know, with my friends. ... When the good times were good, they were fun, but we just didn't have very many of them."

Erika says that at the end of the day, the long-distance aspect of their relationship wasn't a factor when it comes to why they broke up -- rather, it was Stephanie's jealousy and insecurity issues. During the season, Stephanie had concerns over Erika having hooked up with some of her still good friends in the past, which in one episode, ended in a public fight after which Stephanie stormed out of Erika's friend's party while Erika was in tears.

"Jealousy issues, whether you're far apart or not, they're gonna come up," Erika reflects. "If you have insecurities about your partner with a friend... I'm not gonna be with my partner 24/7 even if they're here, so it's still gonna be a lack of trust regardless."

Erika says Stephanie's concerns over her past relationships were "absolutely not" justified. She admits that their intense fight at a house party with her friends was one of the low points for her during the entire season, and another low point was Stephanie smashing a bowl on the floor during their breakup. Stephanie was upset at the time that Erika hadn't told her about a long-term, on-again, off-again relationship she had with another woman in the past, and felt Erika was pressuring her to come out to her parents.

"Once we shut the cameras off, I was not in a good place for a while after that," she reveals of their dramatic split. "After the bowl throw, I actually sat in bed for quite some time and I was just crying. It was not good mentally for me. I wouldn't say I was fearing for my life or anything, but you know, it was a very intense moment that really startled me and kind of put me in a very negative head space that was not great. ... For a couple of weeks after that I was not OK."

"Obviously, the breakup was very intense and it didn't start off that intense and then it kind of spiraled very, very quickly," she continues, noting that it wasn't her intention to try to pressure Erika to come out, but rather, was trying to open up about a past experience that made her vulnerable.

Erika says she doesn't know if she and Stephanie could ever rekindle their relationship, but regardless of how their relationship turned out, there were definitely positive aspects. Both women came out to their parents about being bisexual, and Erika says she's received lots of messages from both young and middle-age viewers who praised her for coming out.

"I guess I learned that it's important to realize when something's not right," she says of what she's taken away from her and Stephanie's "roller-coaster" relationship. "Steph and I both probably could have realized that we just weren't compatible early on and we just keep beating a dead horse that wasn't working. ... If we would have ended earlier, we probably would still have been friends."

As for this season's highly anticipated tell-all, Erika tells ET that fans are in for "a wild ride" when it comes to her and Stephanie.

"It's pretty crazy," she shares. "You'll definitely be shocked."

Part one of the 90 Day Fiancé: Before the 90 Days Tell All airs Sunday, June 7 at 8 p.m. ET/PT on TLC, while part two airs on Monday, June 8 at 8 p.m. ET/PT.

Meanwhile, when ET spoke with Stephanie in March, she already anticipated that viewers might doubt her intentions of coming out on the show.

"I think people will definitely be skeptical, you know, I'm a social media influencer, I'm a YouTuber, so people already just question, 'OK, well, why is this girl doing this? Is it all just for attention or whatever?'" she acknowledged. "But honestly, this is how I've always been. I've always aired my life out on YouTube. I'm a storyteller and I like being open and honest and vulnerable because I want to make people feel less alone. I want others to feel understood because, for such a long time, I felt really misunderstood. I really felt like no one knew who I was and what I was really going through."

"There's a lot of stigma in the LGBTQ community but there's also a lot of stigma for bisexuals," she continued. "For a lot of people, it's not taken seriously -- even within the LGBTQ community, it's like, 'Oh, why can't you just choose?'"

Watch the video below for more:

Stephanie then made a statement on her IG stories, that is entirely too tiny to read, but have been collected on this Reddit post and summarized thusly: [It wouldn't embed but is at that link]

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Erika was more friendly and bonded with the production crew than she did with her. Things strated off rocky and she should have left, but she didn't, because Erika had taken time off of work and she felt bad. Erika was abrupt with her and wouldn't talk to her. She even had a talk with the production and Erika that this wasn't working, but the crew convinced her this is how relationships work. Erika was a phony on camera and was nothing like her camera persona to her in reality.

They had only been exclusive for one month before Steph went over, so it's not that she was trying to figure out her secksuality, but she was trying to figure out if she could love Erika long distance. But all Erika wanted to do was party with her friends. Steph had no emotional support. Steph had told her about her intimacy and jealousy issues BEFORE she had gone over, so she doesn't understand how Erika acted the way she did. They didn't spend much time together because Erika always wanted to go out with her gaggle of friends. In fact she went out dancing with the camera guy and some girl the last night she was there, while Steph spent the night alone at the hotel.

When she came back to the States, she found out that Erika had been talking about Steph's secksuality and about their relationship to at least one cast member, she thinks it could be more. And that's not right. Then Erika emailed her that her and her Ex had been offered to do a spin-off, and Steph thinks that's totally not kewl, because Erika was never real with her intentions for Steph.

A lot of ppl have sent her Erika's interview, and she's done with the one sided narrative, and is finally speaking "her truth". This will the last time she will address this, or speak of "that person".

 

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Maybe UO here, but, from get, Stephanie struck me as exhausting and so high maintenance.  Mommy coddled and needing constant reassurance.  Yech.

Steph strikes me as the "I'm so pretty that I don't need to bring anything else to the table.

Why would anyone expect that someone clear across the globe would just put their life on hold and sit around waiting for some needy American to show up?  Team Erika here.

 

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13 hours ago, zillabreeze said:

Maybe UO here, but, from get, Stephanie struck me as exhausting and so high maintenance.  Mommy coddled and needing constant reassurance.  Yech.

Steph strikes me as the "I'm so pretty that I don't need to bring anything else to the table.

Why would anyone expect that someone clear across the globe would just put their life on hold and sit around waiting for some needy American to show up?  Team Erika here.

If "UO" means "unpopular opinion," that couldn't be farther from the truth. I think most of us are Team Erika.

Stephanie is completely exhausting and high maintenance. She's self-centered and quick to play the victim. She's got an illness, dontcha know?! Your "I'm so pretty" comment is spot on. 

All Steph brings to the table is a giant bag of "uncomfortableness." She's a straight up biatch. 

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On 5/11/2020 at 5:08 PM, monagatuna said:

Considering her desire for the spotlight, all the other reality shows she's been on, her sad little youtube project, and her willingness to rope in a perfectly nice, innocent woman from across the planet to join the ranks of dubious z-list celebrity, it wouldn't surprise me at all if she tried to harangue her mom into hamming it up for that horrible show.

They'd probably shower with her brother too, to make it shocking & different, when all the poor guy wants is more goulash.

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Stephanie posted receipts from two donations she made to some causes, and the comments are making her out to be Mother Theresa. Three slides

Good for her and all, but some people need to get a grip. The praise is a bit over the top. At least it's not the people falling all over themselves to get attention from Geoffrey.

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12 hours ago, Christina said:

Stephanie posted receipts from two donations she made to some causes, and the comments are making her out to be Mother Theresa. Three slides

Good for her and all, but some people need to get a grip. The praise is a bit over the top. At least it's not the people falling all over themselves to get attention from Geoffrey.

I thought charity was supposed to be unspoken?

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5 minutes ago, TigerLily20 said:

Ditto......

And maybe Stephanie also......

I'm more annoyed by Stephanie.  Her friend was an asshole, but I despise the trickery of someone like Stephanie who set this all up and will claim innocence.  

"Tee hee, oh girl, I'm scared of you..... tee hee"

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1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

I'll keep my paid-for 2013 Chevy Equinox if the only way I could buy a Porsche would be with money made from allowing strange men to masturbate while I encourage them to do so.

Me too, except it is a 2008 Volvo.

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3 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I'll keep my paid-for 2013 Chevy Equinox if the only way I could buy a Porsche would be with money made from allowing strange men to masturbate while I encourage them to do so.

Yup, my 2001 F-150 is JUST fine, thank you very much,

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7 hours ago, AZChristian said:

I'll keep my paid-for 2013 Chevy Equinox if the only way I could buy a Porsche would be with money made from allowing strange men to masturbate while I encourage them to do so.

There was a rumor that one of the male cast members subscribed to her Only Fans.  Who is the mystery fapper?

5 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Me too, except it is a 2008 Volvo.

With your vulva you could upgrade your Volvo.

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2 minutes ago, MrBuhBye said:

There was a rumor that one of the male cast members subscribed to her Only Fans.  Who is the mystery fapper?

With your vulva you could upgrade your Volvo.

Wasn’t it Ed? Or did he subscribe to some other inappropriate channel?

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1 hour ago, MrBuhBye said:

I don’t think she said.  Some people thought Ed, Robert or Colt.  I could see Tom.

I thought Tom as well. Am I confused, or didn't he say something on the tell all about how she was so hot? Or was it someone else....oh maybe it was Avery? Anyway my money would be on Tom.

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8 minutes ago, Polliwollidoodle said:

I thought Tom as well. Am I confused, or didn't he say something on the tell all about how she was so hot? Or was it someone else....oh maybe it was Avery? Anyway my money would be on Tom.

He did but he also said BGL is attractive so smh.

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On 7/17/2020 at 11:03 AM, AZChristian said:

I'll keep my paid-for 2013 Chevy Equinox if the only way I could buy a Porsche would be with money made from allowing strange men to masturbate while I encourage them to do so.

Yep, the same for my 2010 Accord.  It has low mileage, probably can't be said for our Steph.

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I can't figure out quite what is going on, and if anyone follows her on IG or OnlyFans they may know, but it sounds like Stephanie is going to start some type of training for how to be a social media influencer, and posted a screenshot of some of her earnings. I'd also like to point out that spellcheck says "influencer" isn't a word and boy do I wish that were true.

This isn't from Stephanie's account:

 

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51 minutes ago, sainte-chapelle said:

I don't get it, I don't find her that interesting or attractive. Looks wise and personality wise she is vanilla.

I suspect that the people who are paying to look at her online aren't looking at her face.

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2 hours ago, sainte-chapelle said:

I don't get it, I don't find her that interesting or attractive. Looks wise and personality wise she is vanilla.

 

1 hour ago, AZChristian said:

I suspect that the people who are paying to look at her online aren't looking at her face.

Which can be found for free on the internet. I'm with @sainte-chapelle, what is her selling point?

I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder; lid for every pot; yadda, yadda, yadda. Still, what is it about her that makes it worth paying for short video clips? The only thing I can think of is that they are seeing a reality tv star, but enough of them have done porn that you can find online if you wanted. 

I'll just be over here yelling at people to get off my lawn and do something better with their money, even though it is none of my business how they spend it.

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15 minutes ago, Polliwollidoodle said:

Confused ( as usual). Why does it say "this isn't from Steph's account"??

 

People repost it and if you link to that then the original poster doesn’t get views which increases  their income potential.

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On 8/15/2020 at 8:19 AM, Christina said:

 

Which can be found for free on the internet. I'm with @sainte-chapelle, what is her selling point?

I know, beauty is in the eye of the beholder; lid for every pot; yadda, yadda, yadda. Still, what is it about her that makes it worth paying for short video clips? The only thing I can think of is that they are seeing a reality tv star, but enough of them have done porn that you can find online if you wanted. 

I'll just be over here yelling at people to get off my lawn and do something better with their money, even though it is none of my business how they spend it.

If you want to know the secrets of getting suckers to pay to see your boobies you gotta pay for Stephanie's class.  

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