S07.E15: Public Displays of Affection

[Primetimer]

Just posted: Sarah Bunting's power rankings for this episode:
https://www.primetimer.com/features/below-deck-power-rankings-week-7-15-not-okay-not-okay

[The Ringo Kidd]

Given the way Alexis was going at it with her new boy toy Kevin really missed a bet by not serving tongue.

[MrsWitter]

I never fail to be surprised when Bravolebrities talk about how much they value “privacy”.... while addressing a film crew.

Shut up, Brian.

[walnutqueen]

Wow, the douchiness runs deep with these dickhands.

[Kiki777]

8 hours ago, breezy424 said:

It seems like Kevin has moaned and groaned all season

My favorite incident is Diarrhea Kevin from the first episode.  Whoa Mister Dobson!

💕never forget💕

Simone puzzles me.  Why take a job completely unrelated to your degree then brag about said degree?  Insecure much?

[dleighg]

1 hour ago, Kiki777 said:

My favorite incident is Diarrhea Kevin from the first episode.  Whoa Mister Dobson!

speaking of diarrhea-- did anyone notice that immediately after the guest talking about his post-donut-binge diarrhea, a cut to Kevin stirring chocolate sauce? Are these editors 10 years old?

And Ashton "This is called Pilah Bay, and that's all I can tell you about it." Amazing tour guide, you are not.

Edited January 14, 2020 by dleighg

[SuprSuprElevated]

1 hour ago, Kiki777 said:

Why take a job completely unrelated to your degree then brag about said degree?

Said degree won't quench the thirst?

[PaperTree]

I hope Captain Lee sticks to his guns and follows through with this.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/below-deck-captain-lee-says-he-will-never-work-with-ashton-pienaar-again.html/

Not sure if I could watch another Asston season.

I have to agree with Kevin on one thing.  I don’t want to hang out with former customers either, but he still gets the "Whiniest Bitch" award for the season.

If he truly goes down, couldn't they call local restaurants and have the meals catered on board?  Or take them to the nicest restaurants in town?

Edited January 14, 2020 by PaperTree

[pasdetrois]

Am I the only one who sees zero chemistry between Kate and Tanner? Scripted to stir up some final drama with Simone?

Alex B. is well on her way to a frowsy, drunken, desperate middle age. Her boyfriend seemed a bit embarrassed at her manic behavior.

Ashton is consistent. He can be relied upon to be a jerk in every scene.

 

[dleighg]

1 minute ago, pasdetrois said:

Alex B. is well on her way to a frowsy, drunken, desperate middle age. Her boyfriend seemed a bit embarrassed at her manic behavior.

I thought her boyfriend was doing what all the deckhand boys are doing-- getting terrified that she sees him as "marriage material" and he's "just having fun." Every time she started saying "let's get married" he looked scared to death.

[bc1795]

The producers will probably pay a little extra to Kate if she beds Tanner down. You know, for drama.

 

There's a word for that, I think.

[dosodog]

I don't like anybody this year.  Not the men, not the women.

[terrymct]

It was glorious to see Ashton's shock when Capt Lee didn't go along his plan.  Not only wasn't Rhylee fired, Lee told Ashton HE needed to improve as a manager.  Ashton needs more shocks like that in his life.

At first, it seemed like Ashton was going to try to be civil to Rhylee.  They did fine tying up the boat but soon enough he was shooting verbal daggers at her.  Yeah, that's awesome, Ashton.  Insult her as you're pulling away from the Valor to ensure your sad little ego is polished by getting the last word.  

This has to be his last season.   He hasn't posted anything on Twitter since early December, has he?

[TexasGal]

8 hours ago, biakbiak said:

 

Kate and Tanner were flirting before he even noticed Simone.

He only noticed Simone because one of the brus (Brian?) spilled that she had a crush on him.  He's all about the easy hookup, he doesn't care who it's with.

[mytmo]

I stand corrected about Captain Lee not having the cojones to back up his colorful statements.  Glad he didn't appease the "men" by firing Rhylee.

Put Rhylee in the interior and Simone as 1st Engineer since she has a math degree and all.  Hell have her be captain - all she needs is someone to train her.

[esco1822]

10 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

You know if Rhylee were a dude I would guess that her attitude was from roid rage.

If Rhylee were a dude, she wouldn't need to have an attitude. 

[Mr. Miner]

1 hour ago, dleighg said:

And Ashton "This is called Pilah Bay, and that's all I can tell you about it." Amazing tour guide, you are not.

Asshat should have done some research on the area. You know, like he accused Rhylee of not doing for the fishing trip.

[esco1822]

How does one exactly misinterpret "we're just having fun, right?" I think we all know that means it was casual and has no future. I'm not sure why Brian's brain went immediately to not wanting to introduce Courtney to his daughter since we never saw her even intimate that was something she was interested in. He should have spoken to her face to face either after charter or after everyone had gone to bed. I see zero big deal in Courtney telling Kate. She was basically giving her supervisor a heads-up as to why she's about to be so distracted at work. Kate has also been a friend to her so i'm sure she felt like she needed to vent. For Kevin to interpret that conversation as her talking sh*t about Brian is completely ridiculous and I hope Brian feels dumb when he sees exactly what transpired. The excuse about Kate telling the entire boat is ridiculous too. Who exactly is she going to tell? Simone and all the guys who hate her? MAYBE Rhylee but I don't see that either. For him to complain about her talking about their relationship with someone is crap considering we see him running directly to Ashton to tell him what went on. Ashton who that morning asked if Brian got some the night before. Ashton who then joked about knowing Brian was lying when he said they just cuddled. Up until last night I thought it was Brian who was way more into the relationship. It was disappointing to again see such an unflattering side to him. Grow up, bru.

[Boston]

13 hours ago, Lamima said:

I would like to be watching but my cable crapped out the Bravo channel.

I feel asleep😓

[njbchlover]

2 hours ago, PaperTree said:

I hope Captain Lee sticks to his guns and follows through with this.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/below-deck-captain-lee-says-he-will-never-work-with-ashton-pienaar-again.html/

Not sure if I could watch another Asston season.

I have to agree with Kevin on one thing.  I don’t want to hang out with former customers either, but he still gets the "Whiniest Bitch" award for the season.

If he truly goes down, couldn't they call local restaurants and have the meals catered on board?  Or take them to the nicest restaurants in town?

Captain Lee treated the charter group to a birthday lunch on land during Season 3 when Leon walked off mid-charter, so it could be done, but I don't know with the Thailand location if that would work.

 

 

Edited January 14, 2020 by njbchlover

[LaLaLaLa]

2 hours ago, PaperTree said:

If he truly goes down, couldn't they call local restaurants and have the meals catered on board?  Or take them to the nicest restaurants in town?

I thought the same thing then Captain Lee addressed it...said something like, "we can't lose Kevin. I can do the other stuff but I'm not a chef, I'm a line cook...and we're in the middle of nowhere (implying no restaurants nearby)."

[Delete]

I hope Alexis was joking when she said her boyfriend had to sleep on the couch as they weren't 'married yet.'  They were practically having sex on the boat in front of everyone, and she wants all of us to believe she's saving herself for marriage. Yeah right, Jesus Jugs. 

I don't understand Kevin.  He acts like he's in grade school. He seems to enjoy tattle-telling, and that is not a good look. Maybe he is jealous, and wants Brian for himself?

Courtenay did not overreact to the text. I'd be upset if I got that text from someone I cared about.  I've heard Brian tell Courtenay he loves her. She obvious thought it was serious. Now that the charter season is gearing down Brian wants to ease on out. Douche.

Kate, get some standards. Tanner is gross. I'd rather dry hump a garbage can. It has less germs. 

I'm glad Captain Lee kept Rhylee. She is a hard worker, and I like that she stands up to Asston. 

Edited January 14, 2020 by Barbara Please

[LaLaLaLa]

Considering he's a goofy, overgrown child, Tanner gets a lot of opportunities with women.

Edited January 14, 2020 by LaLaLaLa
Rephrase

[PaperTree]

47 minutes ago, LaLaLaLa said:

I thought the same thing then Captain Lee addressed it...said something like, "we can't lose Kevin. I can do the other stuff but I'm not a chef, I'm a line cook...and we're in the middle of nowhere (implying no restaurants nearby)."

It's not the middle of nowhere.

Phuket has a population of about half a million and gets over 9 million visitors a year.

Phi Phi is 25 miles away and gets so many tourists that the government is closing off some scenic areas to let these areas recover environmentally.  The places were getting over 200 boats per day and 5000 visitors.

Looking at the map, these islands are also lined with resorts.

[Neurochick]

14 hours ago, pieinmyeye said:

Grow up, Simone. If the kiss they were referring to was that peck Tan Tan and Kate shared in the van, why do you give a shit? Why give a shit about anything they may have done?

I'm wondering why Kate suddenly wants Simone's sloppy seconds.  

I feel for Simone in a way because I'm a black woman who has had condescending bosses.  I have friends who are black women who have even lost their jobs, or had to leave, because their white, female boss found out that they had a life (home, husband, kids) they didn't have.  Seriously, it happens and it's not our imaginations.  From the beginning, Kate favored Courtney and was a little too happy to send Simone to the laundry.

Rhylee is a horrible employee and Ashton is a horrible boss.

Edited January 14, 2020 by Neurochick

[biakbiak]

Even Ashton looked like “wtf dude?” when Brian was talking about how he started the conversation over text so Brian should have realized he was completely wrong right then and there!

[esco1822]

Just catching up on the aftershow videos on bravotv.com. Turns out Brian was more of a player than we thought! Not sure if this falls under the category of spoilers so I won't get specific but if you're interested, take a look. 

[scrb]

3 hours ago, mytmo said:

I stand corrected about Captain Lee not having the cojones to back up his colorful statements.  Glad he didn't appease the "men" by firing Rhylee.

Put Rhylee in the interior and Simone as 1st Engineer since she has a math degree and all.  Hell have her be captain - all she needs is someone to train her.

He doesn't have the power to "fire" anyone.

The producers make the casting decisions and Lee is just one of the cast members.

They obviously want Rhylee around because despite promising Lee to do better, it looks like she blows up again next episode, this time at her BFF Kate.

[ghoulina]

5 hours ago, dleighg said:

And Ashton "This is called Pilah Bay, and that's all I can tell you about it." Amazing tour guide, you are not.

Yet Riley's supposed to be the moron for not knowing which waters they're allowed to fish in. He's such a hypocrite.

 

4 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

Am I the only one who sees zero chemistry between Kate and Tanner? Scripted to stir up some final drama with Simone?

I don't think Tanner is capable of having chemistry with ANYONE. He has no "game". He's about as suave as a dishrag. As for Kate, I think she just REALLY REALLY wants to get laid and let off some of that pent up aggression. She doesn't seem to have the time or energy to deal with a strange local; and Tanner is the least offensive, "single" guy on the boat. I think that's all there is to it.

2 hours ago, LaLaLaLa said:

I thought the same thing then Captain Lee addressed it...said something like, "we can't lose Kevin. I can do the other stuff but I'm not a chef, I'm a line cook...and we're in the middle of nowhere (implying no restaurants nearby)."

Yea, I think for that to work they'd have to stay anchored in the harbour. And what would be the point of that? The guests want to see that beautiful scenery.

39 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

Just catching up on the aftershow videos on bravotv.com. Turns out Brian was more of a player than we thought! Not sure if this falls under the category of spoilers so I won't get specific but if you're interested, take a look. 

It wouldn't surprise me. When he all of a sudden started talking about his daughter, I got the impression that he had a little something going on back home (maybe even with the mother of his child) and was panicking about bringing his thing with Courtney into the real world. 

I'm completely unaware of anything - this is all just speculation.

[Sampson]

5 hours ago, dleighg said:

And Ashton "This is called Pilah Bay, and that's all I can tell you about it." Amazing tour guide, you are not.

This from the guy that went to the captain to complain about Rhylee not professionally preparing enough for her excursion. 

Oops, Mr Miner beat me to it

Edited January 14, 2020 by Sampson
Hadn't read through the whole thread

[The Ringo Kidd]

4 hours ago, esco1822 said:

If Rhylee were a dude, she wouldn't need to have an attitude. 

If Rhylee were a dude and acted the way she did he would have got his ass kicked and/or would have been fired last year and never rehired this year.

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Alexis and all that PDA and jumping on her new SO was just really vomit-inducing.  She acted like butter wouldn't melt in her mouth while on the RHOC.  And I agree, she's got a new agent but this reality teevee star business can't be THAT lucrative?  I mean, Marriage Boot Camp Family Edition?  That all seemed like a whole buncha nuttin, with the exception of her trying to get it on with that Cory guy's brother. She's kinda acting slutty Jesus Jugs now! 

Well she no longer has her King to pay the bills 🤣.  Maybe the OC needs Slutty Jesus Jugs to lighten it up. 

[spunky]

2 hours ago, Neurochick said:

I'm wondering why Kate suddenly wants Simone's sloppy seconds.  

I feel for Simone in a way because I'm a black woman who has had condescending bosses.  I have friends who are black women who have even lost their jobs, or had to leave, because their white, female boss found out that they had a life (home, husband, kids) they didn't have.  Seriously, it happens and it's not our imaginations.  From the beginning, Kate favored Courtney and was a little too happy to send Simone to the laundry.

Rhylee is a horrible employee and Ashton is a horrible boss.

I agree with you on the Kate/Simone situation 100%. The fact that people refuse to see the real issue is astounding.

[Natalie68]

16 hours ago, njbchlover said:

Seems like this entire season is just one continuous douche move from the men.  

They are all completely annoying, and I'm super-pissed that this particular group of mysognynistic assholes have completely ruined one of my favorite shows!  

I would like to see an entire female crew.  This season of douchebags killed the show.

[esco1822]

8 minutes ago, spunky said:

I agree with you on the Kate/Simone situation 100%. The fact that people refuse to see the real issue is astounding.

In a world where Simone was actually good at service (knew how to pour a beer, make an iced coffee, open a bottle of wine, cut a lemon) and did not actually say she loves laundry, I might see your point. If she had been kept in laundry and never got an opportunity to do service (which up to this point she has not appeared to get better at), I might also see your point. However, all of these things are true so I'm going to have a hard time hopping on the Kate is racist bandwagon. Unlike Simone, Courtney picked things up quickly in service and seemed eager to learn. When given the opportunity to learn...HOW TO POUR A BEER, Simone declined. When put on service, instead of asking the guests if they needed anything, she instead took the time to flirt with Tanner in earshot of the guests. She just wasn't good enough in service and i'm not actually sure she was good enough in laundry considering the crew has mentioned on the after shows that there was problems with the laundry all season. She was hired as a second stew because she supposedly was experienced. Her experience did not show when asked to perform basic tasks of a second stew so she was sent to do the laundry and take on more 3rd stew responsibilities.  That really is all there is to it and Captain Lee has repeatedly confirmed it. 

[LaLaLaLa]

50 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I would like to see an entire female crew. 

Bravo (& many others) would disagree with you. 

[Dance4Life]

3 hours ago, PaperTree said:

It's not the middle of nowhere.

Phuket has a population of about half a million and gets over 9 million visitors a year.

Phi Phi is 25 miles away and gets so many tourists that the government is closing off some scenic areas to let these areas recover environmentally.  The places were getting over 200 boats per day and 5000 visitors.

Looking at the map, these islands are also lined with resorts.

This is exactly why guests hopping on a yacht might not want to get off in Phi Phi to eat.  Phuket is overrun by cheap Aussie travel packages, backpackers and all in between.  
 

I want to eat my food on a yacht and look beyond....!  Omg! I am so happy to be off the beach.  🤣  Krabi is the serene sophisticated spot. 
 

Then again....this is Alexis  Chinillo. She probably has no idea where she is at.

 

Anyone, catch Alexis on Marriage Bootcamp? She was acting the same  loved up way with Corey Feldman’s brother.

 

After this trip is when she did her scenes on RHOC.  Alexis told us she had just returned from 2 weeks (?) in Thailand with her new man!  She was happy in her post-divorced life!
 

Alexis is working and having fun!

The crew said they were very laid back, so this is good.

 

13 minutes ago, esco1822 said:

In a world where Simone was actually good at service (knew how to pour a beer, make an iced coffee, open a bottle of wine, cut a lemon) and did not actually say she loves laundry, I might see your point. If she had been kept in laundry and never got an opportunity to do service (which up to this point she has not appeared to get better at), I might also see your point. However, all of these things are true so I'm going to have a hard time hopping on the Kate is racist bandwagon. Unlike Simone, Courtney picked things up quickly in service and seemed eager to learn. When given the opportunity to learn...HOW TO POUR A BEER, Simone declined. When put on service, instead of asking the guests if they needed anything, she instead took the time to flirt with Tanner in earshot of the guests. She just wasn't good enough in service and i'm not actually sure she was good enough in laundry considering the crew has mentioned on the after shows that there was problems with the laundry all season. She was hired as a second stew because she supposedly was experienced. Her experience did not show when asked to perform basic tasks of a second stew so she was sent to do the laundry and take on more 3rd stew responsibilities.  That really is all there is to it and Captain Lee has repeatedly confirmed it. 

I always thought Simone was fine doing the laundry.  But, when Simone got on with Tanner this is when she started complaining. She wanted to be on deck for the opportunities to socialize with him.

 

After Tanner cooled it off with her......Simone seemed fine doing the laundry again.  It looks like she was doing a lot of both.  Service & Housekeeping.
 

 The attention shifted to Rhylee & deck crew.
 

And, now we are back to Simone...?... 🙄

[The Ringo Kidd]

1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

I would like to see an entire female crew.  This season of douchebags killed the show.

That would be great!

Maybe we could have a repeat of the USS Fitzgerald! That would some real drama!

 

Edited January 14, 2020 by The Ringo Kidd

[biakbiak]

56 minutes ago, Natalie68 said:

I would like to see an entire female crew.  This season of douchebags killed the show.

You should check out the documentary Maiden!

[Dirtybubble]

18 hours ago, TexasGal said:

Why is Mr Bad Back dancing an Irish jig exactly!?

I never want to hear “bru” again in my life please. 

Or Jimmney Cricket.  I feel like reaching thru my t.v. and punching dumb ass Tanner every time he says that

[dleighg]

3 hours ago, PaperTree said:

Phuket has a population of about half a million and gets over 9 million visitors a year.

watching the bar "scene" made me realized that I "missed so much" /s in my drinking-years-20s as I was a grad student and partying meant 10 people in an apartment, spaghetti and red sauce, and a gallon jug of gallo. 

 

2 minutes ago, Dance4Life said:

This is exactly why guests hopping on a yacht might not want to get off in Phi Phi to eat.  Phuket is overrun by cheap Aussie travel packages, backpackers and all in between.

That would certainly be my feeling!

[MrsWitter]

34 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

That would be great!

Maybe we could have a repeat of the USS Fitzgerald! That would some real drama!

 

Right. Because a crew of women is just going to crash a boat. Haha. 🙄

This joke is about as fresh as Tanner’s breath and as tired as Kevin on crew nights out. And as clever as Ashton’s management style. 

[MrsWitter]

2 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

If Rhylee were a dude and acted the way she did he would have got his ass kicked and/or would have been fired last year and never rehired this year.

Nah, she probably would have been promoted to Bosun or at least Lead Deckhand. Those seem to be the positions of choice for dudes with anger issues. 

[The Ringo Kidd]

 Based on how well the woman get along on this show I think it is a real possibility.

I know you think all the bro’s are douches but they are not fighting amongst themselves. From the preview we see Rhylee go after Kate. Add in the nonsense between the stews and you have a recipe for a crash.

Women never get along. That’s the basis of the whole Housewives franchise. 

Edited January 14, 2020 by The Ringo Kidd

[tvfanatic13]

1 hour ago, spunky said:

I agree with you on the Kate/Simone situation 100%. The fact that people refuse to see the real issue is astounding.

I am not sure that it is fair for you to say that racism is the "real issue" considering the many arguments as to why Simone is a crappy stew. We are all entitled to have opinions; it doesn't make one real and the other not.

[heavysnaxx]

57 minutes ago, spunky said:

Seriously, it happens and it's not our imaginations.  From the beginning, Kate favored Courtney and was a little too happy to send Simone to the laundry.

I've seen it happen and what you say is true. Simone is isolated in her industry and among this particular crew. But I see her as a not-great example of an employee.

It's seemed throughout that Simone has assumed there's a whole level of mentorship that's being denied to her. IME, what she was expecting would be more in keeping with a white-collar or academia workplace, not a service job like this. That's why I think there's a class dynamic at play here, too,in addition to race and gender.

Kate did rank Simone higher than Courtney, with the appropriate position (second stew) to demonstrate it. The aired footage shows Simone saying quite clearly more than once that she likes ironing and preferred working in the laundry to dealing with guests. When she then did want service training, Kate provided it and, in the process, learned that Simone struggled opening a bottle of wine, asking guests if they wanted anything, and pouring a beer - tasks that are both basic and intrinsic to the position.

IMO, Courtney had a shit attitude toward the job at the beginning and Simone had a great one. But as the season went on, Courtney's ability to perform ordinary job duties without needing Kate's extra help started to outweigh any below-deck kvetching she was doing. Simone became the stew who outranked Courtney yet couldn't do the service work, and blamed her boss for not reading her mixed signals. I think what Kate was happy to do was follow her subordinates' initial stated preferences because it got the work done with minimal drama.

[MrsWitter]

14 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

 Based on how well the woman get along on this show I think it is a real possibility.

I know you think all the bro’s are douches but they are not fighting amongst themselves. From the preview we see Rhylee go after Kate. Add in the nonsense between the stews and you have a recipe for a crash.

Women never get along. That’s the basis of the whole Housewives franchise. 

I’m starting to think this is just trolling, but just as a point of reference: both Brian and Ashton have broken expensive pieces of equipment this season (Ashton with the DJ equipment and Brian on the boat, under Ashton’s command). And Ashton has only narrowly avoided other damage because he can’t control his temper. And Ashton almost got killed last season because he wasn’t careful with the lines.

Yeah, I’d much rather put my life in the hands of the women than the brus.

People sometimes don’t get along. That’s the basis of reality television. Bravo just likes to focus more on the women. 

 

Edited January 14, 2020 by MrsWitter

[dleighg]

2 minutes ago, MrsWitter said:

People sometimes don’t get along. That’s the basis of reality television. Bravo just likes to focus more on the women. 

agree with the basic premise-- but, for example on Top Chef (Bravo), it's pretty equal opportunity in terms of the conflicts that come to mind.  But yeah, People sometimes don't get along.

[The Ringo Kidd]

I would never sail with an all female crew and I venture that the vast majority of people would agree.

Yes people don’t get along but on most Bravo shows the woman are at each other’s throats and the guys generally get along just fine.

 

Edited January 14, 2020 by The Ringo Kidd

[esco1822]

17 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Women never get along.

So true! That's why, as a female, I have no female friends at all, never have! Can't get along with a single female. Males only. They're so great at getting along! They never fight, have dick measuring contests or try to emasculate each other. They are never aggressive with each other or get into physical altercations. Just look at the Real Housewives of NJ husbands, Joe Gorga and Joe Giudice have always been best buddies. Never said a bad word about each other, never took a swing at each other at, say, a baptism or couples retreat or anything. Yay for men!!! (Insert eye roll emoji here)