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Season 41 & 42: Spoilers and Speculation

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So I've been wondering why Redmond hadn't had any news about Survivor 41 (which is usually in its casting phases by now), and wondered if that was a bad sign for the franchise.  However, it looks like S41 and 42 are likely a go.  There's not really spoilers, yet, except that we may be getting another Second Chance season.  It might explain why some Survivors are suddenly talking about wanting to go back out there, and some are coming out of the woodwork again.  Donathan had an IG story where he mentioned putting weight on for something, and Caleb made his monthly Twitter pitch asking who wanted to see him back to finish what he started (judging by the responses, not many people).

 

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So I think the odds of either S41 or 42 being some sort of returning player season is strong.  Caleb posted this on is IG recently.  Whether it means he's really been asked back, and is therefore an idiot for spoiling it and may get canned, or he's pretending he's in the running so fans will make CBS people are hyped to see him again, I don't know

https://www.instagram.com/p/B64QcJepjvK/

In addition, Reed (from S29), has come out of the woodwork and is telling fans to contact CBS if they want him to get a second chance (he also posted a link to his audition tape for Survivor).  Some are saying this may not be like the first second chance season, and that people who played more than once may get called back, but that it still won't be winners.  There are other Survivors suddenly alluding to going back on the show, or asking fans to tell CBS how much they want to see them again.

All I can say is, Reem better be in the mix somewhere.  And maybe Noura.  I could only imagine those two on a tribe together.

 

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11 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

There are other Survivors suddenly alluding to going back on the show, or asking fans to tell CBS how much they want to see them again.

Aside from the aforementioned Reed and Caleb, the only other one making any allusions that I can find at the moment is Cydney from Kaoh Rong.

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Donathan made that reference on his IG story about gaining weight for something coming up in the new year (and I do think Donathan is a likely candidate for a returning player season, fan voted or not).  I've just read on other sites over the past couple of months past contestants here and there suddenly showing interest in Survivor again, or talking about coming back again after not talking about it for awhile.  

And Cydney turned down Game Changers, and seemed like she was moving on from Survivor.  So maybe that's another sign that something is at least being talked about.  It could be they are thinking about a returning player season, but change their mind after.  Probst has said he'd love to do another Second Chance season, but CBS has been the hold up there.

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I also heard that there is a chance that S42 might be a Legends season.  Though I highly doubt that because of the all-Winners season being season 40.  I would imagine that they would want Rob, Sandra, etc. for a Legends season as well and I highly doubt either of them would be willing to do three seasons in the span of two years.  Though I guess if the price is right who knows.

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So it sounds like S41 is definitely going to be new players.  And also sounding like S42 might be as well, but the S41 cast is finalized.  I read on other sites that Redmond has said it's a lot of super fans, no word on a theme yet.

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So I was reading the speculation thread over at Sucks, and Survivors Unite (whose a known spoiler source), has said that he and Redmond believed as of last summer that S42 may be a returning player season.  Then Redmond said he heard both S41 and 42 were going to be newbies. 

He also said that S40 wasn't originally a winners season (which corroborates something Russel said in that video in the media thread), but was going to be a returning player season of some sort.  He seems to speculate that one of the upcoming seasons could be a returning player season, and even listed names that were in contention.  Since S41 and 42 were delayed in filming, I won't be surprised if they change the format and do a returning player season of some sort.  It may easier than re-casting a season of newbies. 

Some of the names he mentioned were a lot of old schoolers (John Carroll, Tina, Neleh, Jenna Lewis, Tom Buchanon, Teresa).

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1 hour ago, LadyChatts said:

Some of the names he mentioned were a lot of old schoolers (John Carroll, Tina, Neleh, Jenna Lewis, Tom Buchanon, Teresa).

How about no on Tina. Like we barely need to see people twice let alone 4 fucking times! Can we put a cap on like 3 max times for people to play again, please!

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5 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

How about no on Tina. Like we barely need to see people twice let alone 4 fucking times! Can we put a cap on like 3 max times for people to play again, please!

If that means I never have to see Rupert and his tie dye again I'm all for it.

Also, Robb (with 2 b's, from Thailand) was also on the list for people to return for either S40 original theme, or for S42 that was/is a returning player season.  He's an interesting choice, if true.  Some posters on Sucks are saying Jenna Lewis confirmed she was set to do S40, and then they changed the theme at the last minute.  Which again, kind of interesting?  I'm surprised Jenna would want to come back and have her leaked sex tape rear its ugly head.  

ETA: if one of the upcoming seasons does turn out to be a returning player season, I do hope it's people who've played no more than once or twice.  People like Boston Rob, Sandra, Cirie, Rupert, Ozzy, and the like are not going to win (or win again) unless the odds were stacked tremendously in their favor (which, with this show...).  And the odds of them getting far seem slim, too.  I'd rather see people who haven't played in years and haven't been able to develop a reputation over their many seasons.

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I am really hoping for a season of players that were voted out first (or second if they couldn't get enough voted out first people). It'd be familiarish, yet we have no idea how they'd play.

I am also hoping for an Old School Survivor, where they give them the very basics and there's no idols, no extinction, no tokens, nothing. Just Survivor. But they don't tell the players that! So they run around thinking there's idols and there's not lol.

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Just an idle thought as I sit here looking at contracts in the day job...

I keep seeing people (not necessarily here) saying 41/42 can't happen until Fiji reopens because of whatever agreement production has with the government there. Even if it's some iron clad contract, it's completely possible the parties could agree Probst gets to film somewhere else now and extends their Fiji agreement by a couple seasons in trade, or films somewhere now and promises two new pilots with potential series will be shot there or films somewhere else now and lives a bucket of fire tokens by the back door of parliament, etc.

Gist is, whatever agreements there are, they are always negotiable if the parties want.

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8 hours ago, AncientNewbie said:

Just an idle thought as I sit here looking at contracts in the day job...

I keep seeing people (not necessarily here) saying 41/42 can't happen until Fiji reopens because of whatever agreement production has with the government there. Even if it's some iron clad contract, it's completely possible the parties could agree Probst gets to film somewhere else now and extends their Fiji agreement by a couple seasons in trade, or films somewhere now and promises two new pilots with potential series will be shot there or films somewhere else now and lives a bucket of fire tokens by the back door of parliament, etc.

Gist is, whatever agreements there are, they are always negotiable if the parties want.

I have to think there'd be some sort of clause in there that says if Fiji is unavailable for filming for whatever reason, they can film elsewhere (if they actually have a contract with the Fiji government to film exclusively there).  And I'm thinking the same thing, if they can't film in Fiji and want to whip out a season for the fall, they may have to get creative.

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I think a Big Brother-stye Survivor would be fun.  It would be more real-time like Big Brother is. Episode footage would be shot the week before the episode aired. (There would still be only one episode a week.) And there could be live feeds!! - turned off during competitions and tribal, of course. The edit would be different because the editors would not know who the winner is until the final tribal council.  Then the winner could be revealed back in the US in LA (small audience of just family members, family clusters at least 6 feet from other family clusters) a few days after final tribal and it could be live. 

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23 hours ago, Lamb18 said:

I think a Big Brother-stye Survivor would be fun.  It would be more real-time like Big Brother is. Episode footage would be shot the week before the episode aired. (There would still be only one episode a week.) And there could be live feeds!! - turned off during competitions and tribal, of course. The edit would be different because the editors would not know who the winner is until the final tribal council.  Then the winner could be revealed back in the US in LA (small audience of just family members, family clusters at least 6 feet from other family clusters) a few days after final tribal and it could be live. 

This morning I realized a flaw in my suggestion. In order to do a season the way I described above, they would have to be filming for 14-15 weeks which I don't think they would do.  But they could still be doing some filming while the show is actually airing. The first three episodes could air during filming.

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On 6/1/2020 at 6:36 PM, LadyChatts said:

I have to think there'd be some sort of clause in there that says if Fiji is unavailable for filming for whatever reason, they can film elsewhere (if they actually have a contract with the Fiji government to film exclusively there).  And I'm thinking the same thing, if they can't film in Fiji and want to whip out a season for the fall, they may have to get creative.

I agree.  A pandemic probably falls in the same pile as Fiji getting nailed by a hurricane or other natural disasters.

Unless you believe the virus was constructed entirely in China.

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On 6/1/2020 at 5:36 PM, LadyChatts said:

I have to think there'd be some sort of clause in there that says if Fiji is unavailable for filming for whatever reason, they can film elsewhere (if they actually have a contract with the Fiji government to film exclusively there).  And I'm thinking the same thing, if they can't film in Fiji and want to whip out a season for the fall, they may have to get creative.

I don’t think the issue is one of a contractive restrictions between TPTB and Fiji; I suspect it’s more than likely closer to the following:

  1. Fiji already has a years-long proven track record of bending over backwards to accommodate Survivor, which has been the best worldwide tourism ad campaign in the history of the nation.
  2. If Fiji - with all of its motivations - can’t identify a way to accommodate Production, then it’s highly unlikely any other locations would be able to do much better.
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On 6/8/2020 at 5:09 PM, Nashville said:

I don’t think the issue is one of a contractive restrictions between TPTB and Fiji; I suspect it’s more than likely closer to the following:

  1. Fiji already has a years-long proven track record of bending over backwards to accommodate Survivor, which has been the best worldwide tourism ad campaign in the history of the nation.
  2. If Fiji - with all of its motivations - can’t identify a way to accommodate Production, then it’s highly unlikely any other locations would be able to do much better.

That's a good point.  But just to play Panicked Government Official's Advocate...

Fiji has to date had a total of 18 confirmed cases of COVID-19, and 0 deaths. And then they look at America where the numbers keep going up and up and it looks like that trend will continue.  I can imagine Fiji going "nah... we're good... maybe next spring..."

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1 hour ago, phlebas said:

Fiji has to date had a total of 18 confirmed cases of COVID-19, and 0 deaths. And then they look at America where the numbers keep going up and up and it looks like that trend will continue.  I can imagine Fiji going "nah... we're good... maybe next spring..."

They definitely should say this!

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6 hours ago, phlebas said:

That's a good point.  But just to play Panicked Government Official's Advocate...

Fiji has to date had a total of 18 confirmed cases of COVID-19, and 0 deaths. And then they look at America where the numbers keep going up and up and it looks like that trend will continue.  I can imagine Fiji going "nah... we're good... maybe next spring..."

You mean, a NATION put the health of its CITIZENS over corporate PROFIT???
Getdafuck outta here.

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