S07.E10: Everyone Hates Kate

[OnceSane]

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The crew members bond over a trip to an elephant sanctuary, but Kate's attitude pushes them to the brink; Simone learns Tanner has been gossiping about their relationship; the others realize they can't trust Rhylee; Capt. Lee witnesses dysfunction.

Airs December 9, 2019.

[The Ringo Kidd]

I glad that we can all agree......everybody hates Kate.

[Mindthinkr]

I may be on board, but I retain the right to jump ship at any moment. 

[pieinmyeye]

6 hours ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

I glad that we can all agree......everybody hates Kate.

Not everybody.

[Kiss my mutt]

Although I generally like Kate I’m looking forward to her getting upbraided 

[Mr. Miner]

I don’t love or hate Kate, but I would love it if someone would throat punch the wanker chef.

[Emmeline]

I wouldn’t like waiting on anyone like that.  The day they went to the elephant sanctuary they were waiting for her and she came out looking like she just rolled out of bed.  She likes the tousled look.

The elephants were adorable.

Brian is quite the dish.  Hope he keeps his eyes on Courtney.  Where the heck did those 2 girls come from?  Are they hired dancers?

Edited December 10, 2019 by Emmeline

[AnnA]

I loved the elephants and yes I hate Kate!

[PaperTree]

Kate will outlast all of them.

[pieinmyeye]

Then stop acting like a little bitch, Kevin! I’ve been watching BD since the beginning and  this is the most immature crew I’ve seen in seven seasons. It’s like watching a really bad fraternity party. I’d be a bitch with that group too.

[tiredofwork]

Everyone in the cast is either despicable or stupid or naive...  Very unlikeable..  Not one really likable

Dont' see what anyone sees in the Captain, he may be nautical but he is all bluff and clearly they don't respect him with what happened in front of him in the crew galley..

[The Ringo Kidd]

3 minutes ago, PaperTree said:

Kate will outlast all of them.

Supposedly there was an ad in the trades looking for a chief stew.

The best thing for this franchise would be if they replaced either Kate or the Dud of the Sea. Preferably both of them. You can provide fan service by bringing back other popular crew members to provide continuity.

Both Kate and Captain Dud have gotten unbelievably arrogant and nasty. You saw it perfectly illustrated in this episode.

[ghoulina]

I love Kate, but I think she was way out of line tonight. I don't know if it was just the alcohol or if she's tired or what. But damn. I thought both she AND Brian were wrong in the van. But I do think there's a bit of her issues with Kevin spilling over onto the other guys. We've never really seem them have an issue with her all season. Suddenly they're saying stuff like, "She's been a bitch for way too long". I just think the chef has been in their ears. 

But none of that excuses her pulling rank and acting like a total snob. And I don't care that she sat by herself most of the day at the pool. If I'm crammed in that tiny crew space with all those people for weeks - I might just need a minute myself. But she took things too far. And I thought Brian sounded sincere in his apology too. Disappointed, Kate. 

Brian is probably, actually, the best guy on the boat. He was drunk and being a fool. But I think he's pretty thoughtful and reasonable, in general. I find him and Courtney just adorable. 

Tanner is the one who turned out to be a real asshole. First he tries to blame it all on Rhylee. She's a shit-stirrer, no doubt. But he shouldn't be revealing intimacy details to anyone! Especially the parts that denigrate her. 

But Simone is disrespecting HERSELF by running back to that loser after seeing the red flags. I guess I just don't get the appeal? He's a sloppy drunk. Texts her for a bootie call, then is snoring before she even gets there. 

And is his mother listed as "mommy" in his phone? Just run, girl. 

It wouldn't be a complete episode is Kevin didn't act like a douche - thinking he owns the damn fridge. Provisions for guests are provisions for guests. Period. I don't get why all the dudes don't see the issue with HIS behaviour, but think Kate's been "being a bitch" all season. 

[PaperTree]

Riley stirring more shit.  Her job seems to be "riling" everybody up.  Eggs Simone on, badmouths Courtney, then decides she's "hunting" Brian.  Please.  I hope he throws her overboard.

That fight with Kate in the van was senseless.

Edited December 10, 2019 by PaperTree

[tiredofwork]

I did like how Kevin at least made an effort to stand up for Simone against asshole, clearly alcoholic Tanner.

[biakbiak]

30 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Supposedly there was an ad in the trades looking for a chief stew.

They literally put that same ad out every season. You can read back through past season threads and media thread.

Edited December 10, 2019 by biakbiak

[Kiss my mutt]

Isn’t this the same elephant sanctuary that the real housewives of Dallas went to? Good it’s getting exposure and bravo gets a twofer!

[Lady of nod]

10 hours ago, pieinmyeye said:

Then stop acting like a little bitch, Kevin! I’ve been watching BD since the beginning and  this is the most immature crew I’ve seen in seven seasons. It’s like watching a really bad fraternity party. I’d be a bitch with that group too.

Yes  This. Like a bunch of annoying little frat boys. Tanner should have kept his mouth shut, not blame Riley for clueing Simone in. (Not a Riley fan) And who told him to tell Riley? Ashton of course. I've lost any respect I might have had for him after this season.

Then Simone runs right to Tanners bed after all this. She may be a mathematician but she's clueless immature and a lousy stew on service. This isn't a training exercise people are paying big bucks for good service and if you want good tips you've got to deliver. Bryan may be the only bearable boy on this boat - but we haven't seen that much of him yet  

Kevin is the biggest douche of all  No Kevin, it's not your fridge and stop with your silly little songs and getting drunk and stupid  It's not cute. I can not stand him. 

And by the way Kate's been at this a long time and knows what she's doing. This is why she's CHIEF STEW. She's not there to hold your hand Simone  She's there to get everyone a good tip  

Oh wait. I'm only half way through. I'm sure someone else (Brian?) will piss me off by the end lol

Edited December 10, 2019 by Lady of nod

[dsteele]

So... it turns out Tanner is circumcised.

The things we learn on this show.

[laprin]

5 minutes ago, The Ringo Kidd said:

Supposedly there was an ad in the trades looking for a chief stew.

This has been posted every season for the past 4 seasons.If they were looking for one they should have found him/her by now.

I think Kate let this really immature crew pull her down to their level.  I agree that this is the most immature crew I’ve seen and I have been a viewer since Season 1 and also watch BDM. I could not work around people who think not wanting to get shit-faced and instead enjoy quiet time alone means you’re mistreating them. 

Simone, when someone shows you who they are, believe them. I have zero sympathy for her in this Tanner situation. 

[The Ringo Kidd]

You saw Kate in all her glory when she put down Simone and than ran to gossip with Courtney so she could build the two against one faction that is her modus operandi every season.

You also saw her true bitch come out when she was throwing fresh laundry on the filthy floor in front of the Captain. She disrespected the work done cleaning and ironing those uniforms as well as the supposed dignity of the Dud of the Sea.

I was really disappointed in Brian for apologizing. You shouldn’t have to apologize for telling the truth. 

[njbchlover]

Kate was wrong several times in tonight's episode - she doesn't get to be late because "she's the highest rank on the ship" - being late is rude, whether you have one stripe or four, or even if you're a captain.  I hate lateness!!  

She also was wrong with discussing Simone with both Courtney and Rhylee, but it seems that BD follows along with the typical reality TV requirement - we must see gossip-fueled drama on every episode!  While I usually like Kate, this is one thing that I do not like about her - she does seem to like to pit one stew against the other, or she chooses a favorite.  

I also felt that Kate was being pretty anti-social at the beach club, but that wasn't such a big deal to me.  Hey - she just gave Kevin more time to gossip about her to everyone else, and try to get the dickheads deckhands on his side.

The guys on this season, with the exception of Bryan, are total misogynistic, frat-boy wanna-be, assholes.  Tanner - I wonder how proud your MOMMY is after seeing the last two episodes of her "baby" being falling down drunk, talking out of turn (and rather nastily) about Simone, and just being a straight up douche.  Ashton - it's not cool or funny if you have a name for your drunken side.  Smashton is not fun, suave or endearing - he's just another asshole looking for easy sex - which is usually a HUGE turnoff for any girl in her right mind.  Kevin is just fucking egotisitcal control freak - starting with giving Courtney a direct order to NEVER use the fridge for storing guest wine, to then arguing with Kate about the same (IT'S MY FRIDGE!!!!), to bitching and moaning about Kate to everyone and anyone who would listen, and then arguing with her about paying the bill?  I didn't even understand that whole argument.

Kate was acting very, very bratty when she returned to the ship with throwing everyone's clothes on the floor - that was not mature by any means.  I'm curious to see how this all plays out with Captain Lee next week.

It's weird - Kate's been called a bitch and other insults before, and always seemed to let things roll - I think the alcohol got to her (wasn't she drinking wine before they even left the ship for the beach club?), and she was in her feelings.  Kate is finally showing a vulnerable side, and I kind of like it and can understand it.  It's not easy to feel like everyone is against you.  

Surprisingly, Rhylee didn't offend me this week, but I didn't like her comments about Bryan - she's just crass.  I'm really liking Courtney and can take or leave Simone - she seems whiny and entitled to me.

As someone mentioned upthread, this really is the most immature crew that I can remember.  For the most part, they seem to drink to excess each and every night/day off, and love to discuss sexual prowess constantly, or throw sexual innuendo into many conversations.  

Not saying I'm going to stop watching, but I'm getting a little bored with it all.

[howiveaddict]

Kevin was an asshole taking the wine out of the walk in refrigerator.  I still think someone who knows Kate was in his ear before the season even started.

Laughed out loud when someone commented he had a dad bod at the pool.

Kate shouldn't have thrown the clothes on the floor, but I can see how she is over the frat boy, asshole behavior of the male crew members.

Tanner is a black out drunk,which isn't a good thing.  He didn't remember texting Simone to come to his bed.  And the dancing with those skanky  looking dancers was just gross. And to say he's being interrogated because she didn't like him talking about their private time to the rest of the crew.  Finally, I think his mom keeps calling him so that she can be famous like Collin's mom.   Except Tanner and his mom, it's just icky.  Joking about getting hookers pregnant.  Yuck!

[spunky]

Simone you’re sleeping with someone who has the emotional intelligence of an ant, I wouldn’t expect too much from him. I had no sympathy for Kate crying after she was called out on her crap by both Brian and Ashton. The same way she can make fun of and bully others, is the same way she can be told about herself. Brian, Courtney is Kate jr. so of course she didn’t have your back.

Edited December 10, 2019 by spunky

[pieinmyeye]

Everyone was bitching about Kate being late, but Rylee walked into the crew mess with Kate right behind her. I didn’t hear anyone complaining about her keeping them waiting.

[breezy424]

Team Kate.  Captain Lee has worked with Kate for years.  He knew there was something going on because it was 'off'. 

Kevin is such an asshole.  His refrigerator?  Sorry dude, it's the guests who are paying for the charter.  Like Kate said, it's about the charter.  And then he has the nerve to criticize Kate for disrespecting the Captain?  Look in the mirror.

Give me a break with the crew sticks together Ashton.  Tanner is telling that he went down on Simone and Rylee tells her.  That's not about 'crew'.  Tanner should have kept that to himself.  How disrespectful.  And then Simone goes back to him?  Sorry Simone.  Between that and thinking that you are all that as a stew, you've got problems.

And BTW, the deck crew with the exception of Rylee, and the chef need to consider cutting back a bit with the alcohol.  They act like fools.  I wouldn't want to hang out with you either.

[Marley]

I don’t like any of these ppl maybe.  Tanner is so gross. Simone is annoying and I don’t care about them Hooking up. They are annoying and dumb together. Wtf is with Tanners moms baby voice? Annoying. Tanner is a sloppy fucking drunk. And how young is Tanner supposed to be? He looks in his mid 30s to me. Enough with the jiminy cricket shit too.

Brian seems like a jerk. Calm the fuck down over a stupid term. Typical drunk douche bro. Fuck off putting ppl in their place guy. Who the fuck are you.

Ashton is a misogynistic pig. The Smashton shit is dumb. 

Kevin is annoying and an arrogant prick.

Why were they so obsessed with the dancing chicks like calm down.

Courtney is funny tho lol.

The guys think they are so cool together but they just seem like a bunch frat boy douchebags.

I think I might be over this show.

[Lamima]

4 minutes ago, pieinmyeye said:

Everyone was bitching about Kate being late, but Rylee walked into the crew mess with Kate right behind her. I didn’t hear anyone complaining about her keeping them waiting.

They did mention the 2 of them...it always being those 2 girls making them all wait. 

[pieinmyeye]

2 minutes ago, Lamima said:

They did mention the 2 of them...it always being those 2 girls making them all wait. 

Thanks! Obviously I missed that.

[njbchlover]

6 minutes ago, howiveaddict said:

Kevin was an asshole taking the wine out of the walk in refrigerator.  I still think someone who knows Kate was in his ear before the season even started.

Laughed out loud when someone commented he had a dad bod at the pool.

Kate shouldn't have thrown the clothes on the floor, but I can see how she is over the frat boy, asshole behavior of the male crew members.

Tanner is a black out drunk,which isn't a good thing.  He didn't remember texting Simone to come to his bed.  And the dancing with those skanky  looking dancers was just gross. And to say he's being interrogated because she didn't like him talking about their private time to the rest of the crew.  Finally, I think his mom keeps calling him so that she can be famous like Collin's mom.   Except Tanner and his mom, it's just icky.  Joking about getting hookers pregnant.  Yuck!

I agree with your entire post!!  I'm almost convinced that Kevin is related to either Rocky or Caroline, or they got in touch with him somehow, or he just binge-watched and formed a pre-conceived opinion and is sticking with it.  Either way, he just doesn't like her and no matter what happens, it's not going to change!  Hey - maybe he's worked with Leon somewhere, making girls cry and laughing about it together!!  

And, yes - Rhylee was right - Kevin does have a dad-bod - compared to the other guys, he looked a little "dough boy-ish" around the middle.

Tanner and his MOMMY will never, ever, match up to Collie and his adorable Mom and Dad.  Tanner is a creep (Colin was adorable!); Tanner's MOMMY seems waaaay too involved in her baby's life - Colin and his parents just seem to have a fantastic relationship.

[The Ringo Kidd]

Kate does what she wants because she is the teacher’s pet and can disrespect him to his face and he won’t do shit. She runs the whole boat and treats everyone except her toadies like shit and wonders why nobody can stand her.

I think she was so upset because she was ineptly flirting with Brian because she was shit faced drunk and Rhylee and Courtney both are after him and she felt left out. Rhylee is a two face as she pretends to be on Kate’s side but then disses her to Simone.

[Lamima]

Tired of Tanner's Jiminy Crickets and his mom with he baby voice telling him not to get hookers pregnant...like WTF. And then he is a douche with Simone. And when he danced with that chic he danced awful...awful.

However Ashton was dancing sleezy gross. Not a way the ladies would like (at least I would have been skeeved out back in the day).

I like Kate. I am team Kate. And they had those uniform laying around the mess table so maybe they should have put them away. 

Chef what's his name. Oh, he is the worst. Hate him.

[Sage47]

Tanner’s mom...wow. That baby voice, “oh Tan! I miss you so much! Don’t get any hookers pregnant!” Ewww.... rather strange lady. 

Tanner is a real douche and very immature. But he’s good looking so Simone is back in his bunk. Eh, we were all young and dumb once, whatever. 

Brian is really hot AND he’s a stand up guy. A total catch. Lucky Courtney! 

Kate looked bizarre in those shots of her getting ready in her cabin. Bony body, gigantic, inflated lips, yikes. She’s a rough one, appearance and personality. 
 

[Sage47]

3 minutes ago, Lamima said:

Tired of Tanner's Jiminy Crickets and his mom with he baby voice telling him not to get hookers pregnant...like WTF. And then he is a douche with Simone. And when he danced with that chic he danced awful...awful.

However Ashton was dancing sleezy gross. Not a way the ladies would like (at least I would have been skeeved out back in the day).

I agree-Ashton’s Chippendale dancing is such a turnoff to me-seems the ultimate in douchiness. I like down to earth guys, not try-hards. Ugh, I cringe when he whips off his shirt and starts gyrating. 
 

[SevenCostanza]

4 minutes ago, Sage47 said:

Kate looked bizarre in those shots of her getting ready in her cabin. Bony body, gigantic, inflated lips, yikes. She’s a rough one, appearance and personality. 
 

Her lips looked really big in that scene, she needs to stop messing with her face.  She shouldn't have told Courtney what happened with Simone that's  unprofessional.  But that seems to be her thing she always has one stew on the outs.   

Tanner and his mom were trying too hard, tone it down.  Tanner's gross and disrespectful and Simone is just stupid. 

I don't know how they consume so much alcohol.  They were drinking at 10;30 in the morning to well after sundown, no wonder they have ridiculous arguments all the time.

[Lady of nod]

This season should be called the real frat boys of valor, as it is starting to look more and more like a housewife show. They're catty and following that script of all ganging up on one cast member.  Ashton has had it out for Kate since day one and has rallied all his little bitches against her. Is he going for the Lisa Rhinna award of queen bitch? I'm sick of him and his stripper moves. There's a reason you're having to work so hard to get your dick sucked moron.

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, njbchlover said:

Kate was wrong several times in tonight's episode - she doesn't get to be late because "she's the highest rank on the ship" - being late is rude, whether you have one stripe or four, or even if you're a captain.  I hate lateness!!  

She also was wrong with discussing Simone with both Courtney and Rhylee, but it seems that BD follows along with the typical reality TV requirement - we must see gossip-fueled drama on every episode!  While I usually like Kate, this is one thing that I do not like about her - she does seem to like to pit one stew against the other, or she chooses a favorite.  

Simone is bad at her job, but that doesn't empower Kate to be gossipy and unprofessional. Would Kate have said "you're a bad second stew" if Simone hadn't specifically asked. I don't think so. For reasons unknown, Kate seems to be unusually passive aggressive with Simone and hoping Simone will figure things out based on little digs and eyerolls. That's not how you lead or manage people. If Captain Lee had used this strategy with Chandler, Chandler would have stayed on the ship for the full six weeks with the bosun rank, but Ross would have done the job and Lee would have told everyone with ears about what a shitty bosun Chandler was. That is a chaotic and ridiculous way to lead and manage people. Simone is a bad second stew, but Kate is being a bad manager. Kate has been a chief stew long enough to know better. And throwing the crew pants on the floor like a dyspeptic cat just confirms to the brüs that she's the problem they think she is even though Kate hasn't really done anything to the crew of the MY Misogyny.

Kevin isn't a great chef. He's not that interesting of a personality positively or negatively. It's sort of interesting watching Kevin pull a Kate with Kate. He's not as witty as Kate, but he's being bitchy, gossipy, and passive aggressive about all things Kate. These are classic Kate moves. It's a little curious.

Tanner is a jerk and Simone needs to learn some self-respect. 

[sara1025]

Random but since when is being a "yachtie" a negative thing? I remember a few seasons back when the temporary bosun who Nico hated (can't remember his name) said he was a yachtie for life and sounded really proud about it. I feel like Brian was being way overly sensitive and immature about Kate saying that. I did think it was nice of him to come back and apologize though, it sounded sincere.

Also, I can NOT stand Tanner's mom's voice. It's like she's trying way too hard to be cutesy, and frankly it was just disturbing when she said to "not get any hookers pregnant" in that baby tone.

Edited December 10, 2019 by sara1025

[biakbiak]

4 hours ago, Kiss my mutt said:

Isn’t this the same elephant sanctuary that the real housewives of Dallas went to? Good it’s getting exposure and bravo gets a twofer!

Different sanctuaries this one was in Phuket, the Dallas women went to one closer to Bangkok.

The uncomfortable chuckles when Tanner made his “joke” about his mom always telling him not to get someone pregnant from Brian and Kevin was amusing given that both have children with women who they are no longer in with but what was up with Tanner adding that his mom ending that with “not again!” 
I hate when people are late but at least according to time stamps that started bitching before Rhylee and Kate were even late which is also annoying.

Kate should stop bitching to her one stew about the other but at least this had to do with Simone’s work and not her personality or Kat’s weird martyr complex about Amy not liking her for sleeping with a dude she was quasi involved with when she came to visit her. 
just like Kate needs to stop bitching to Courtney, Ashton needs to shut the fuck up bad mouthing Rhylee to Brian and Tanner.

Kevin might be rivaling Leon in least favorite chef territory. 
the look on the djs face when he was busy sopping up the water when one of the brus splashed it and was saying how awesome it was with everything.

Edited December 10, 2019 by biakbiak

[Primetimer]

Just posted this week's power rankings:
https://www.primetimer.com/features/below-deck-power-rankings-week-7-10-she-doesnt-like-us-either

[MVFrostsMyPie]

I'd be a bitch around this crew too if I had to live/work with them.

With a mother like that, no wonder Tanner's a verbal diarrhea'd man-child. He look's like a poor man's sunburned Bradley Cooper with a too narrow nose. 

Everything about Kevin is gross, from his personality, to his pasty thighs to his balding hair.

I'd rather lay in the shade and munch on pizza too 🤷🏻‍♀️

[MVFrostsMyPie]

3 hours ago, Sage47 said:

Brian is really hot AND he’s a stand up guy. A total catch. Lucky Courtney! 

🤔

[biakbiak]

Also, Ashton talking about your sexual exploits at work is not bonding or appropriate so shut your mouth about Rhylee betraying confidences. 

[SimonSeymour]

Courtney’s French cut one piece bathing suit was EVERYTHING!! She looked great in it. 🙂

[elsie]

 Disjointed thoughts;

Thank god for the elephants, because without their appearance my favorite part of this episode was the quizzical and then dismissive look that Capt. Lee gave to the piece of lettuce sitting atop his lunch before he tossed it aside.

I have decided I want to be Courtney when I grow up...Too bad I'm just about old enough to be her mom.

The whole "yachtie" spat was so silly. When Kate uses the word, Brian very politely ( and drunkenly) kisses her hand and asks her not to call him that. She wants to explain why he should not be offended by it, but does so by repeatedly using the word. She says she would call herself a yachtie..what would he call her? And then he says he would call her a bitch. That went south in a hurry.

Watching Kate getting ready to go out made me wonder...do people who use lip injections get some sort of dysmorphia? To me they look ridiculous (Particularly in real life) when not done in a very subtle way. Hers are pretty bad...not Rinna bad, but bad nonetheless.

Edited December 10, 2019 by elsie

[psychoticstate]

I generally like Kate but she was wrong.  She's the chief stew; she sets the example for others.  Brian was wrong for telling her she was a bitch but that doesn't give her the right to take it out on everyone else.  (Not to mention that Brian did apologize and Kate should have accepted that apology and moved on.)  

I think Brian is probably the most decent guy there and he's a hard worker.  I think Ashton is a hard worker as well but he needs to pack away Smashton.  

I honestly thought Ashton and Rhylee were heading into hookup territory and it terrified me.  For Ashton's sake.  Dude, you can do better.  

Did my ears deceive me or did Rhylee say that Kevin had a dad's body?  Girl, compared to Kate, Simone, and Courtney you yourself have a dad's body.  I hate to body shame anyone but since Rhylee opened that door, she has no room to talk with those legs.  

Hope Courtney keeps an eye on Brian since Rhylee is clearly on the prowl.  She's really gross.

Speaking of gross, Tanner is disgusting.  Simone, he didn't apologize to you so much for blabbing deets of your intimate moments together as playing some CYA since he got caught.  And have some self-respect, girl!  He texts you for a booty call, don't respond!!  It would be fine and good (I guess, if you're into cigarette mixed with alcohol mixed with vomit breath) if Simone didn't have a case of the feels for him but she does so she needs to cut him off.  

Kevin doesn't offend me as much as he seems to others but he really needs to quit badmouthing Kate.  

Loved, loved, loved the elephants.  I'm with Courtney - - they are amazing animals.  What an awesome experience they had.  

I do wonder why Kate got the bulk of the ire about being late when Rhylee was also dicking around and just as late as Kate was.  People who always run late, with no excuse, get on my last good nerve.  Very rude and inconsiderate to keep others waiting. 

[Baltimore Betty]

40 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

Speaking of gross, Tanner is disgusting.  Simone, he didn't apologize to you so much for blabbing deets of your intimate moments together as playing some CYA since he got caught.  And have some self-respect, girl!  He texts you for a booty call, don't respond!! 

Simone does not realize that we teach people how to treat us and when he texts her she is confused as to his level of interest in her vs. his level of wanting booty.  She seems very naive.

42 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

Loved, loved, loved the elephants.  I'm with Courtney - - they are amazing animals.  What an awesome experience they had.

Bravo took the RHOD to Thailand and visited an elephant sanctuary, it was a very different experience, mostly hands off, no romping in the water, I would love to have the BD experience, do we think that either group donated any money to the sanctuary they visited?

[Baltimore Betty]

46 minutes ago, psychoticstate said:

She's the chief stew; she sets the example for others. 

Kate has been the mean girl all these seasons, usually targeting one of her stews to make their life miserable so she has to get as good as she gives and feel the sting, maybe this is her rude awakening. If she thinks Simone made her department look bad, Kate is misinformed, it was Kate acting like a child throwing clothes on the floor and jumping out of a moving van.  Why wouldn't Capt. Crunch call her out and talk to her in private?  Anyone else behaving like that gets the "someone's going home" speech.

[esco1822]

Does wine get skunked the same way beer does when it's cold, gets to room temp and is put back in to get cold? If so, that's a real dick move by Kevin, despite him saying he wasn't trying to be a dick. If he had a problem with the wine being in the walk-in (which seems ridiculous but whatever), he should have left the wine refrigerated, explained it and asked the girls to move the wine out of the walk-in. I don't understand why the wine had to be removed at that moment, when they were leaving for the day and no guests were on board. I assumed Kate wanting to get it back in the fridge meant it does get skunked and becomes unserveable. Such a waste of money that isn't his. And why exactly didn't Simone and Courtney move it in that time? They were all waiting around for Kate and Rhylee (which was ridiculous and disrespectful) and the guys could have helped and had it done. 

[terrymct]

10 hours ago, breezy424 said:

Team Kate.  Captain Lee has worked with Kate for years.  He knew there was something going on because it was 'off'. 

I am, too, although she shouldn't have thrown the clothes on the floor or purposely been late.

During the day at the resort, she was sunning and staying out of the way while the guys torqued themselves up to be pissed off at her.     Then, at the end of the day when everyone is drunk and starting even to feel hung over and tired the clash happens.  It's as predictable as the tide.