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6 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:

Shame is not restricted to any religion, nor are the concepts of "right" and "wrong." ....Moreover, and not to put too fine a point on it, one man's angel is another man's alien.

I was making fun of him.  Easy, no?  Snark along.  For him, perhaps "shame is just a social construct".  In that case he could also alternatively choose to be Proud of his debt, or maybe he could change his opinion on the fly depending on what the aliens are telling him.  So let's get to the bottomline here.... he wants to keep Natalie in the dark, perhaps because SHE would react badly either 1) due to a moral outrage or 2) a practical concern.

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42 minutes ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

Ok. SO. I paused the DVR over the price tag on the ugly consignment sofa. It says "HESTIA D TBL 250x101 cm" MAR B POL & BRA I & DK BRONZE  $14,450.  That's GOT to be a price tag for a TABLE that is 250 x 101 centimeters. Right? Right. We are not dumb TLC. Nice try to create drama that doesn't exist over a $14000 couch that doesn't exist.  You ARE going to lose your audience w/this dumb shit. 

Great leg work!

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28 minutes ago, Lesia said:

I think, that because My-kull and Angela She-beast are coming back, someone else is not going to make it the whole way and will thus be eliminated from the show.  Anyone remember Loyo, or Lolo, the Nigerian Prince who had that girl snowed? they came late to the show, and then disappeared, right?  Or the exotic dancer mom of 2 who was messaging with some guy from some middle eastern country- names are escaping me now...sorry...still in somewhat of a turkey coma...They came for a few episodes, and then poof no more!

I remember the Nigerian guy and his creepy wall of deskjet printed photos of his beloved.  I was sad that they were gone so fast, they looked like they could have been fun! 

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I love me some coast to coast am with Art Bell, so I'm not at all shocked by any belief in ancient aliens.  I feel it sort of is demeaning to various cultures who achieved great architectural feats...but still.....people who believe in ancient aliens are an interesting bunch. 

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16 hours ago, blubld43 said:

Seriously, is that look(and that of her sister) considered attractive? I find both these women so plastic and fake looking, I guess I can't imagine someone finding that attractive.

Who ever said she was low rent Iggy Azalea was right. Waxy, slug lips, and a face that doesn't move.

It's worse than just fake looking with Jasmin and Sister Jasmin.  It seems like they went out of their way to have surgery to make their faces ugly.  Their cheeks and lips are grotesquely misshapen.   

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2 hours ago, TipseyGirl said:

She sounded like an idiot. What with this and her eggs "disappearing". Dumbass.

Did you see Annie's reaction on Pillow Talk? She asked if they went on vacation. 

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2 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

It's worse than just fake looking with Jasmin and Sister Jasmin.  It seems like they went out of their way to have surgery to make their faces ugly.  Their cheeks and lips are grotesquely misshapen.   

And what's even worse than all that is that some men find that attractive.

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1 hour ago, Lesia said:

I think, that because My-kull and Angela She-beast are coming back, someone else is not going to make it the whole way and will thus be eliminated from the show.  Anyone remember Loyo, or Lolo, the Nigerian Prince who had that girl snowed? they came late to the show, and then disappeared, right?  Or the exotic dancer mom of 2 who was messaging with some guy from some middle eastern country- names are escaping me now...sorry...still in somewhat of a turkey coma...They came for a few episodes, and then poof no more!

So who will it be? I think it’s between Anna/Mursel and Mike/Natalie.

My guess is Mike/Natalie. One or both will be abducted by aliens.

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3 minutes ago, Gobi said:

So who will it be? I think it’s between Anna/Mursel and Mike/Natalie.

My guess is Mike/Natalie. One or both will be abducted by aliens.

Wasn't there a preview where Mike stormed out of a talking head with Natalie? I don't remember what was said because it was in the "this season on 90 day fiance" towards the beginning of the season.

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18 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

What’s the point of going furniture shopping when she hasn’t even seen the house yet?  I would need some idea of the rooms and what would fit where, etc.

I don’t agree with the whole renovation of an entire house just because styles may have changed.  It’s one thing if things are in bad condition, but why is it considered necessary to change things to the current trend (which will be “dated” in a few years again)?  Sure, change wall colors, rip out wallpaper, that kind of thing, but I think it goes too far with every house having to look alike.  

I think it’s a moot point anyway - this guy doesn’t have the money he pretends to have.

OT, but I agree!  If I never see another Agreeable Gray house, I might die happy.

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19 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

It's worse than just fake looking with Jasmin and Sister Jasmin.  It seems like they went out of their way to have surgery to make their faces ugly.  Their cheeks and lips are grotesquely misshapen.   

I just don't understand why people think that looks good?! They are so young to do that to their faces! 

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1 minute ago, libgirl2 said:

I just don't understand why people think that looks good?! They are so young to do that to their faces! 

They most likely have SEVERE insecurity issues or have been molested.

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19 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

What’s the point of going furniture shopping when she hasn’t even seen the house yet?  I would need some idea of the rooms and what would fit where, etc.

I don’t agree with the whole renovation of an entire house just because styles may have changed.  It’s one thing if things are in bad condition, but why is it considered necessary to change things to the current trend (which will be “dated” in a few years again)?  Sure, change wall colors, rip out wallpaper, that kind of thing, but I think it goes too far with every house having to look alike.  

I think it’s a moot point anyway - this guy doesn’t have the money he pretends to have.

It certainly does not have to be ripped out and renovated. My comment was facetious: "oh you are so great but you bought a house that was last updated in 2005!" Most of us cannot afford a 1.2 million dollar house. But because it is a TAD outdated, it probably sat on the market for a long while. People in that price range tend to want the latest trend in home finishes- which will be out of style in 5 years too, as you point out. 1 acre of land in Greenwich for 1.2 million is an absolute steal! I noticed the background room where she is giving her interviews is stunning and looks like they had it professionally decorated. 

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18 hours ago, DaphneCat said:

Yes, I know we're getting off topic here but I am in total agreement.  The idea of renovating just to renovate is crazy to me.  I have no idea if my house is "dated" or not because when we renovated we just did whatever we wanted - and we still like it, even if it isn't the latest fashion.

Yeah it’s like people who hire interior decorators because they have no idea how to pick stuff that just appeals to them. 

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14 hours ago, Persnickety1 said:

I cringed during his science fiction explanation because Brother Persnickety shared those same beliefs (chariots in the sky were actually flying saucers, etc).  

Mike figured out Scientology without paying thousands for the auditing sessions.  Aliens landed on volcanoes and blah blah blah.

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12 hours ago, John M said:

An actual conversation in my house:

Husband: Bees.

Me: Bees.

Husband: Bees

Husband: Instead of the awful wedding dress she should just get married in a bee costume.

Me: Bees

Me: I hope she develops a bee allergy.

Me: Like that movie. Pretty girl?

Husband: I don't know what you are talking about.

Husband: Bees.

Me: You know, that movie where the kids from home alone dies from bees while his best friend watches or something.

Husband: I have no idea what movie you are talking about.

Me: You know, Pretty Bees, or My woman, oh My Girl!

Husband: I have no idea what you are talking about.

Me: My Girl, the kid gets stung to death by bees, that is all you need to know about that movie for now or forever, it's the bee death movie, it's literally the only thing I or anyone else remembers about it.

Me: Bees.

Husband: Bees.

Then the girl from that movie was in another movie where a tractor crushed her boyfriend.  She is bad news.

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2 hours ago, KateHearts said:

I can't recall exactly but one had to do with his aliens beliefs

He added a syllable to civilization and then later he mangled a different word.

2 hours ago, KateHearts said:

He has two other kids and if he can't figure out how to pick a crying baby up, it's because of learned helplessness.  He couldn't give a shit.  Apathy is written all over the guy

He must be quite the motivator as a personal trainer.

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2 hours ago, KateHearts said:

I can't watch Emily dogging Sasha about his parenting duties. "You will be able to change his diaper, right? Are you going to know when to get him up?"  I hope at this point her starry-eyes misjudgment of him has become glaringly apparent. He has two other kids and if he can't figure out how to pick a crying baby up, it's because of learned helplessness.  He couldn't give a shit.  Apathy is written all over the guy.

I couldn't stand the singsong scolding way she described the delay in getting to America, something like, "We had to wait because Sasha didn't apply for his passport, like I TOLD HIM TO!" And I had to laugh when she told him a baby was never too young to learn a language, what's her excuse for the past three years? 

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I found this episode tedious.   

These woman whose biological clock is a ticking time bombs are only thinking of themselves and not of the welfare of their future kids.  Fathers are not interchangeable, replaceable but are needed in their kid’s lives.

So Michael buys a house because Juliana arrives, not because his kids could have decent digs when they visit him.  Guess a two bedroom apartment is good enough for them, but not Juliana.   Also, he abandoned leaves his kids alone, so he can go look for a couch.  First, JMPO, his kids are too young to be left alone.   Second, why not look for a couch when his kids are with their mother and spend some quality time with his kids?

This loser could careless about his kids.   It’s all about Juliana.  Hope Juliana takes him to the cleaners.   

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2 minutes ago, LGGirl said:

 Guess a two bedroom apartment is good enough for them, but not Juliana.  

The kids are at an age where they should no longer be sharing a room.

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5 hours ago, John M said:

Did I miss something or did that Mustang come out of nowhere.

We have seen him with multiple sports cars which makes me think he rents them, remember Jorge had a few different cars at the begining too.

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1 hour ago, Spike said:

Then the girl from that movie was in another movie where a tractor crushed her boyfriend.  She is bad news.

Ha ha, but she made a comeback in veep!

2 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

We have seen him with multiple sports cars which makes me think he rents them, remember Jorge had a few different cars at the begining too.

I'm convinced Jorge had a kit car and anfisa wasn't sophisticated enough to pick up on it.

26 minutes ago, HarleyQuinn said:

Long, long time lurker, stepping in to applaud all of you for making mine and the soon-to-be Mr. HarleyQuinn's lunch hours very freaking enjoyable. 

Tania makes me want to bazooka the TV.  Go on, chick, learn how to cure cancer with peppermint oil, a river stone, and the contents of a goat's stomach.  We'll wait.  Hold up!  Instead of that, why don't you take Biology 101 and find out what really happens to your eggs.

She literally has no time to do any of that because there is LITERALLY a clock inside her. 

 And may I say....welcome!

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Does Tania know that the vast majority of potential eggs we are born with “disappear” by the time of puberty?   Or even after that we “disappear” them at a lesser but steady rate each month?  They don’t just go poof at age 30.  

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25 minutes ago, RealReality said:

She literally has no time to do any of that because there is LITERALLY a clock inside her. 

She literally cannot use literally correctly.

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Just now, Spike said:

She literally cannot use literally correctly.

She would literally look up the word literally, but she doesn't have time because there is literally a clock inside of her. 

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Do any of these people know that having a baby is in fact entirely optional? They are expensive, time consuming, strains on relationships, you are entirely free not to have one now or even ever,

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Hate to defend Tania, but she's right about eggs disappearing. It's actually way more than half that are lost by the time you're 30 - you lose most of the eggs you're born with before you even reach your fertile years. Can't remember specifics, but I have somewhere the numbers that a fertility specialist scribbled down for me. That said, it's a pretty slow decline in fertility til you hit 34, but if she wants multiple kids, she's right that time is not on her side. But neither are a number of other important considerations lol.

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I wasn’t clear on whether Natalie’s ex-husband didn’t want kids or had fertility issues.  I can see at 35 if Mike needs 3-5 years to pay down his debt she might be concerned.  

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I'm betting Natalie's husband was cheating - he traveled a lot on business and he apparently didn't want children.  I would suspect that he is already on wife #2!  (Wows, my faith in humanity is low today.)  I don't buy the reason she gave for divorcing him.  Besides, her mother didn't like him - there had to have been something else.

I wasn't that offended by her encouraging him to run.  Sports (I guess that's the Ukrainian term for exercise?) is important to her and she wants to share that with him and help him continue to lose weight, which has been an issue for him in the past.  She told him he didn't have to do it and I thought he was super sweet saying that he would try and do it with her.

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3 hours ago, Anduril said:

They most likely have SEVERE insecurity issues or have been molested.

That's... a giant leap. Cheek implants, fillers, a nose job, and Botox meant that someone touched you when you were younger? Suddenly 80% of Hollywood makes so much sense.

I would love to see where you found the stats for that. 

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9 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

That's... a giant leap. Cheek implants, fillers, a nose job, and Botox meant that someone touched you when you were younger? Suddenly 80% of Hollywood makes so much sense.

I would love to see where you found the stats for that. 

I would be more apt to go with the insecurity issues. And body dysmorphia. Hollywood is more of a matter of wanting to stay young. The men on screen can age all they want, the actresses playing their wives can't..... they get younger and younger. 

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3 hours ago, Spike said:

Then the girl from that movie was in another movie where a tractor crushed her boyfriend.  She is bad news.

That's Reese Witherspoon. The one in MY GIRL is Anna Chlumsky. Still, have an upvote because your comment was still funny. 

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2 hours ago, LGGirl said:

I found this episode tedious.   

These woman whose biological clock is a ticking time bombs are only thinking of themselves and not of the welfare of their future kids.  Fathers are not interchangeable, replaceable but are needed in their kid’s lives.

So Michael buys a house because Juliana arrives, not because his kids could have decent digs when they visit him.  Guess a two bedroom apartment is good enough for them, but not Juliana.   Also, he abandoned leaves his kids alone, so he can go look for a couch.  First, JMPO, his kids are too young to be left alone.   Second, why not look for a couch when his kids are with their mother and spend some quality time with his kids?

This loser could careless about his kids.   It’s all about Juliana.  Hope Juliana takes him to the cleaners.   

In general I agree with you about Michael's attitude. When we bought our house, though, it took 8 months from start til end. Obviously that's not "normal", but sometimes stuff does happen. He only divorced 2 years ago so he hasn't been in that condo for very long. Still, though, even if he was just living there while he shopped for houses and went through the sale it doesn't explain why he didn't rent a 3-bedroom to begin with. 

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5 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:

I would be more apt to go with the insecurity issues. And body dysmorphia. Hollywood is more of a matter of wanting to stay young. The men on screen can age all they want, the actresses playing their wives can't..... they get younger and younger. 

Yeah, no, the Hollywood comment was more snark directed at saying something like "Plastic surgery = molestation" as if it were fact. Like Juliana clearly being a prostitute and Before the 90 Days Tim clearly being pre- or post-op transgender. 

I'll buy insecurity issues but I also don't think you can paint every person who has plastic surgery as insecure or having body dysmorphia. Molestation is a serious leap, though, IMO. 

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5 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Yeah, no, the Hollywood comment was more snark directed at saying something like "Plastic surgery = molestation" as if it were fact. Like Juliana clearly being a prostitute and Before the 90 Days Tim clearly being pre- or post-op transgender. 

I'll buy insecurity issues but I also don't think you can paint every person who has plastic surgery as insecure or having body dysmorphia. Molestation is a serious leap, though, IMO. 

For some people it can just be where you live or who you associate with. The good old "everyone is doing it". 

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16 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Yeah, no, the Hollywood comment was more snark directed at saying something like "Plastic surgery = molestation" as if it were fact. Like Juliana clearly being a prostitute and Before the 90 Days Tim clearly being pre- or post-op transgender. 

I'll buy insecurity issues but I also don't think you can paint every person who has plastic surgery as insecure or having body dysmorphia. Molestation is a serious leap, though, IMO. 

Agree. I know plenty of people who get massive amounts of plastic surgery because they legitimately think it looks good. The molestation was a jump for me. 

I'm actually getting a little squirmy about the "Julianna was a prostitute" thing. We don't know that and IF she was then I don't think it's something to just flippantly joke about. No teenage girl turns to prostitution because it's their childhood dream. It's usually out of desperation. 

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1 hour ago, John M said:

Do any of these people know that having a baby is in fact entirely optional? They are expensive, time consuming, strains on relationships, you are entirely free not to have one now or even ever,

They are optional, but most people want them, and I'd say very few regret having them.    

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5 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

Great leg work!

FBI forum forensics ! 

I am like Judge Judy when you tell one lie then everything is a lie. TLC is ruining this show with this dumb fake shit. Why manufacture that lie?  Why merge the footage of the dining room table they looked at with a couch tryout? TLC you SUCK. If there is no storyline with a couple then DON'T air them! Gawd. 

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3 hours ago, Spike said:

He must be quite the motivator as a personal trainer.

His motivational skills include acquiring new female clients, making them believe that he has a crazy wife that turned into a huge PITA, then motivating them to take part in more “push up” sessions at a nearby motel. 

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26 minutes ago, PinkFlamingo said:

His motivational skills include acquiring new female clients, making them believe that he has a crazy wife that turned into a huge PITA, then motivating them to take part in more “push up” sessions at a nearby motel. 

When he says they’re going to get pumped, he means it!

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42 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

They are optional, but most people want them, and I'd say very few regret having them.    

That's only because it is considered socially unacceptable to say you regretted having children.

My opinion can't be changed on this.

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3 hours ago, Spike said:

What are the odds that Tania lives in Colcester and Sinjjn’s last name is Colchester.

Well, I have property on the edge of Colchester CT and I'm sure after the near foot of snow they got there overnight, he's not real happy right now.  I suspect Tania did a search on Colchester and the name just came up.

She wants to be T Colchester from Colchester, right?

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1 hour ago, mamadrama said:

That's Reese Witherspoon. The one in MY GIRL is Anna Chlumsky. Still, have an upvote because your comment was still funny. 

Oops.  They were both pretty good movies I admit.

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12 minutes ago, John M said:

That's only because it is considered socially unacceptable to say you regretted having children.

My opinion can't be changed on this.

Ann Landers or one of her ilk asked people with grown kids if they would have had them if they knew then what they know now and like half said no.  But that was only people who cared enough to respond.  We asked our parents and they said they would absolutely do it again, which was sweet.

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I've read many people, if given another chance, would not have had kids.

My hair stylist (40s/married) told me directly that she never had kids & never wanted them. 

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