S07.E02: They Don’t Know

[Haute Messe]

Holy hell there were several massive servings of cheese tonight, and not just on the pizza and porkless nachos.

Michael, a necklace with red, white, blue, green and gold is just plain tacky, even if it is setting you back 4 grand. Money and taste clearly don't go together. His dog whose name escapes me is very cute and probably has more sense than his master. Michael and Juliana are both lying through their teeth. Now he is playing the 'naive' card? Oy.

Tania -  those rose petals and the gas station flowers at the airport were just shockingly obnoxious as well as tasteless. Then she brings her friends back with them to the hotel room? Then the whole extravaganza in Times Square. Poor guy was understandably overwhelmed and not in a good way. 

I think Bryson is actually a very cute kid who is starved for affection, and maybe attention. The way he was clinging onto nAnny was kinda heartbreaking to me. And I would bet that Robert has filled his little head with ideas about Anny coming to be his new Mommy. But Robert better get another bed for him and hopefully not a used one from Sally Ann.

Anna and Murcel are a complete disaster waiting to happen, and Momma ain't being a big help with her inquisition about 'stoning'. I feel for her boys.

Emily is an idiot. Nothing more to say on that.

Absolutely none of these couples who profess their 'love' know the first thing about each other and I am getting sick and tired of these couples who can't understand a damn word they are saying without using a translator app. Communication between couples can be hard enough when you both speak the same language.

[Delete]

Tania and Syngina are going to be extra thirsty couple of this season. Strong player vibes from him. He's like Jesse. He wants to be a STAR. He tosses his hair around like Fabio in a wind tunnel. He's going to get bored of bossy bitch, and her obnoxious nervous laugh. I don't get her fan club friends who snapped to attention with the flower petals, the champagne and the stupid poster. Didn't seem healthy that they were in the hotel room waiting to be excused. It looked like they wanted to stay and watch. 

The Bee lady and the Turkish Mr. Bean seem very simple. A very awkward coupling. She uses his name constantly,  because it is the only thing he understands besides 'good' 'hello' 'kiss' and 'bees.' Anna's Mother is a horror. Another 90 Day stereotypical American saying stupid things like, "Don't stone my daughter."  And why bring her son into an adult conversation, and worse yet, have him act as google translator.  smdh. 

I'd be booking myself into the nearest hotel, and taking a bubble bath, and make arrangements to go back to the DR if I had to endure Bryson whiny, yelling, and bouncing around on a bed that you are expected to share with him, and clueless 8 hour fiancé after having a long  flight. No bueno. 

If Juliana was denied twice for a visa that doesn't bode well for them. I don't buy Michael's story that she's a model. She's an escort, and was probably passed around since she was 13, or 14.  I have a great deal of sympathy for her, and any other young women who are sex trafficked for rich older men. He gives me the major Jeffrey Epstein creeps. 

Corny 2.0 is a big dummy if she thinks the Russian meathead is going to stay with her. She's a stepping stone for him to get to the USA. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Barbara Please

[Haute Messe]

3 hours ago, Major Bigtime said:

Sasha’s first wife is a straight-up jealous bitch.

You mean Masha? I thought she was just onto his game - she seemed to be dropping some truth bombs.  She looks a bit like Carole Radziwill to me.

[Spike]

At least Sasha got rid of the Moe Howard haircut.

[FrancescaFiore]

Oh right.. I meant to mention.. Sasha's first wife was named Masha. I was gonna lose my shit if wife #2 was named Tasha.

[zoltana]

Julianna, if they are asking you those kind of questions then they have a reason for doing so.   Now they have to provide a police report.  Why is there a police report?  He emphatically said she's NOT a prostitute.  That much money, these guys at yacht parties probably consider these girls/models as just part of the party.  I'm guessing an escort is no big deal because they're arm candy and we've worked hard to make this money, we deserve pretty things.  A prostitute is probably seen as something you get off the corner and don't talk about.  An escort is like "Pretty Woman" and she is taken out and shown off like a date.  Sorry, I'm rambling.

[Chippings]

1 hour ago, zoltana said:

   Now they have to provide a police report.  Why is there a police report?  

Possibly I can answer that one.  Many years ago we adopted our son in Central America, and one of the things that was required was a "police report" - in our case, the other country required that our county sheriff's office provide them with a report that neither of us had a criminal record, and no untoward events at our house.  It may be a thing like, that, where her home town's police would review and see if there was any record on her.  It sounded kind of the same, although coming after a poor interview, maybe in this case it is the next step to see if there is a shred of a chance.  

[MajorNelson]

I do not see how Anna would be delighted with Murcel enough to invite him here, when he is so anti her kids (for the variety of reasons, including her moving to Turkey and leave the kids out, him to USA but keeping them secret, or even him possibly leaving if his parents find out).

Emily, listen to Masha.

Robert, at least your friend from the DR was a good enough friend to speak some truth to you.  Maybe she would work out, but your one bed working-class lifestyle puts the odds higher that after she gets the card, she splits.  Next week is shopping at a used clothing store, and she is a firm No over that.

I'm still no fan of Tania, and I'm glad for the previews of Syngn feeling like just a character in her story.

Juliana being turned down twice for tourist visas is hugely negative.  I would think that means she has a criminal record, or has traveled to countries she shouldn't have (ME) to get into the USA.

4 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

You couldn't advise Juliana to dress like a professional - a skirt suit/pant suit/dress for her immigration interview?

Good point.

But then again, few people on this show tend to think ahead much.

[magemaud]

3 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

Tania and Syngina are going to be extra thirsty couple of this season. Strong player vibes from him. He's like Jesse

I think he’s a Jesse/Ronald combination 

[Pepper Mostly]

Checking in, peeps! Missed the live chat because I'm running a big event at work and have to be there stupid early in the morning! Looks like I missed a good one--hope to check in later today or tomorrow to get caught up. I missed you all like FIRE. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by Pepper Mostly

[moonbunnychan]

There's something....off...about Murcel.  I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but it all sorts of sets off my inner alarm bells.

The fact that Tania got so nasty with the guy sweeping up her mess tells me really everything I need to know about her.
 

Gee I can't imagine why the relationship between a rich white guy twice the age of a "model" he met on a yacht party from an impoverished background would look at all suspicious.

Sasha is like a giant waving red flag you should be able to see from space.

Edited November 11, 2019 by moonbunnychan
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[Major Bigtime]

7 hours ago, Cammi said:

Murcel SUCKS and so does Anna. What kind of man asks a woman to LEAVE her kids? And what kind of woman entertains him after that?!???? Anna is giving me Danielle Jbali vibes. Weird smiling at inappropriate times. They both seem a can shy of a six pack. Fucking idiots. 

I was just telling friends that she reminds me of Danielle. This is not going to end well.

[Lizzing]

I freakin' loved that Ms. Everything Needs To Be Perfect, Tania, couldn't be bothered to spell "sugar" correctly on her banner. 

If Michael really wants to convince me that he has hundreds of thousands of dollars to blow on Juliana, he's gonna have to buy some new Old Navy button-downs that actually fit.  Not a single one has so far.

[Takitaki]

17 hours ago, RealReality said:

The jury is out on mursel for me. 

Who goes to someone's home to have a first meal and immediately shit talks the food?

I think that's just kinda rude.  I wouldn't even expect that from Anna's kids if they were in Turkey.  

He also couldn't be bothered to get his own luggage from the car?  Or even help to bring up his own luggage?  Something about that rubs me wrong.  

He also couldn't bring his plate up to the kitchen.  I can understand if he was there for a visit....but he is supposed to be living there forever.....is he never going to do the dishes or bus his plate?

He couldn't even try to play the video game with the kids?  How is he planning on becoming their friend?  Are things going to only be on his terms?,. They can only be friends if the kids want to do things he wants to do? 

I just thought he was trying to make a cameraman eat the rest of his slice!

[watchingtvaddict]

6 hours ago, zoltana said:

Julianna, if they are asking you those kind of questions then they have a reason for doing so.   Now they have to provide a police report.  Why is there a police report?  He emphatically said she's NOT a prostitute.  That much money, these guys at yacht parties probably consider these girls/models as just part of the party.  I'm guessing an escort is no big deal because they're arm candy and we've worked hard to make this money, we deserve pretty things.  A prostitute is probably seen as something you get off the corner and don't talk about.  An escort is like "Pretty Woman" and she is taken out and shown off like a date.  Sorry, I'm rambling.

When you apply for your immigrant visa. You're supposed to provide the embassy with police record checks from every country you've lived in for over 6 months after the age of 16. So, even though they said they had all their paperwork in order (they didn't)... they were refused for a good reason and not the prostitution question. I've had friends who've brought the incorrect police record check and because the paperwork is easy to get in Korea, they just go to the police station closest to the US Embassy in Seoul and have it printed out and are given the green light a few hours later. 

7 hours ago, Barbara Please said:

Tania and Syngina are going to be extra thirsty couple of this season. Strong player vibes from him. He's like Jesse. He wants to be a STAR. He tosses his hair around like Fabio in a wind tunnel. He's going to get bored of bossy bitch, and her obnoxious nervous laugh. I don't get her fan club friends who snapped to attention with the flower petals, the champagne and the stupid poster. Didn't seem healthy that they were in the hotel room waiting to be excused. It looked like they wanted to stay and watch. 

Syngjin was way too extra. WOW! I'm in AMERICA I am just a BOY from THE BUSH but now I am in THE CONCRETE JUNGLE! Look at all the BRIGHT LIGHTS! This is ALL SO AMAZING!!!

He sounds like a little kid not a 29 year old man.

[Neurochick]

I don’t understand why Juliana was denied a Visa when Anfisa was allowed to come here.  Maybe if Juliana came from Eastern Europe it would be okay.

[watchingtvaddict]

11 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

I don’t understand why Juliana was denied a Visa when Anfisa was allowed to come here.  Maybe if Juliana came from Eastern Europe it would be okay.

I don't think she was denied. She has some paperwork outstanding so, next episode they will probably go back to the embassy. 

[Bryce Lynch]

When Tania was running late to the airport and they showed the sign for the Van Wyck Expressway, it made me think of Elaine on Seinfeld. "Nobody has ever beaten the Van Wyck."

[Bryce Lynch]

20 hours ago, Spike said:

I would think post-9/11 New York airports especially would have a low tolerance for hijinx.  I was wondering about him dropping his bags so far away and running at her.  I suppose the camera crew provides some cover.

She seems kinda skinny and flat to be a swimsuit model.  What exactly does she model?

Juliana is very pretty, but she is as flat as the plains between Chicago and Nebraska.

[Baltimore Betty]

What is it with all these Muslim men having sex out of wedlock?  I thought that was a no-no.

Bee Keeper lady is more concerned with getting laid than anything else including her kids which as we all know with everyone on this show, they are the most important thing in the world.  Also, first meal in her house and they wind up eating pizza on the couch, she couldn't set the table?  She did not even try, it was all about the sex with her.  The constant smirking with her is irritating.

Tania is also hyper focused on having sex before anything else happens, how awkward was it with her friends in the hotel room?  Why would you bring friends to this meeting if all you wanted to do is sex it up the minute your "soul mate" lands?

Wine guy, your girlfriend is/was a prostitute, she would not give you the time of day if you were broke and if she has been denied a visa...there's your sign.

Robert is an idiot. Brings this girl home to be an instant mother to the wild child (like Flea from the Wild Thornberry's) and expects them all to share a bed.  How would anyone think that is okay with her and putting a little bed in your bedroom is your way to make less weird?  Robert is never going to get laid, Flea is a cock blocker, maybe that is what he really wants because he may have issues in that department?

Emily says she is nine months pregnant and the baby could come at any minute...she really does not know how labor and delivery works.  If she believes that his last wife did not want him after he got in shape she is stupid.  Sasha definitely has a type, exwife and new baby mama look alike.

Ugh, these people. 

[OldButHappy]

9 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

She has passport stamps from her yacht parties

When Michael said, "She has a lot of stamps on her passport", it became my new favorite euphemism.

[iwasish]

5 hours ago, Chippings said:

Possibly I can answer that one.  Many years ago we adopted our son in Central America, and one of the things that was required was a "police report" - in our case, the other country required that our county sheriff's office provide them with a report that neither of us had a criminal record, and no untoward events at our house.  It may be a thing like, that, where her home town's police would review and see if there was any record on her.  It sounded kind of the same, although coming after a poor interview, maybe in this case it is the next step to see if there is a shred of a chance.  

Didn’t Nicole fuck up her wedding to Azan by only having a copy of her “criminal history” instead of the original?

If this paper is so important why didn’t she just get it after her first denial?

Edited November 11, 2019 by iwasish

[thejuicer]

When Emily asked Masha if it would be OK for her son Daniel to go to the states, I yelled "NOOOOOOO!" at the TV screen. Yes, I'm willing to let my deadbeat ex-husband and his new baby mama who's about to pop take my child to another country. Have several seats, Emily. You are wife #3 out of 6 or 7. I don't think Masha is jealous for a hot second.

[JasonH]

Anna is becoming a front runner for most disliked person for me.

Getting this out of the way, I think Mursel might be slow. He makes some unique facial and body gestures at times, and if you can’t even communicate with him, it might be hard to pick up on. It could possibly explain some of his bizarre beliefs. He can get jiggy with it though.

Anna is one of those people that just lets things happen. From the obnoxious teenager she has to the trashy, skin tagged eye lidded mom, who, by the way, knew she was going to be filmed, she lets them ask insulting question after insulting question, while she sits there and does nothing. Who cares. As long as she can get 7 orders of nachos from this repulsive interaction, she’ll let it happen. I thought the lingerie store was bad last episode...the Keno restaurant looked worse than that.

[Mr. Miner]

26 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Robert is never going to get laid, Flea is a cock blocker, maybe that is what he really wants because he may have issues in that department?

Anny has dodged a big bullet...so far.

[greekmom]

9 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

She has passport stamps from her yacht parties 

Instead of notches in her bedpost???

[Mrs. Hanson]

23 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

What is it with all these Muslim men having sex out of wedlock?  I thought that was a no-no.

I agree, however it is my understanding that Turkey is kinds Muslim Light on some things, so.....?  But either way Mursel is just weird to me.  Sitting there, with an odd glaze in his eyes, probably thinking about getting out of Nebraska.

23 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

How would anyone think that is okay with her and putting a little bed in your bedroom is your way to make less weird? 

To think (and please no throwing tomatoes) I kinda liked Robert AT FIRST.  In the previews!!!  Now - full on stop.  You want an unpaid Nanny/FB TO SHARE A BED WITH YOU AND YOUR SON and you proposed after eight hours.  Your homeboy from the DR warned you but no......here we go.  As soon as it became clear I was going to co-sleep with a four year old, I would have been gone.  I would have asked that question before landing but hey that is me.   As for Robert, once she sent 1000 mad emojis I would have stopped right there.  You can't call and talk?  Are we in middle school?  Oh wait......

[KateHearts]

Anna and Murcil- she did absolutely nothing- NOTHING- to help facilitate the meeting between him and her kids, or him and her mother. There is nothing more rude than to sit there and natter on in English in front of him while he sits there bewildered. Obviously he knows they're talking about him. How awkward.  And the mother: "tell him not to stone my daughter!" while the poor kid sits there and types in the question on the translator app (not to mention after hearing that his mother considered leaving him to go chase her Turkish boyfriend).  I was laughing at his little waist-scarf to protect his head.  He really doesn't have a clue and is not interested in becoming American or adapting. He's like a child.  All they have in common is bees. And we haven't even seen a bee scene yet!

Michael and Juliana- I am getting a very strong whiff of fakery here about his material wealth. First off, she maxed out his ccs? And he's doing the "well, try the other one" routine? You don't see super wealthy people in that sort of predicament. Secondly, most well-off businessmen know how to dress in a fashion that doesn't look like 2019 Goodwill. His suit in the talking heads was so incredibly ill-fitting it was laughable. His button down shirts gap in the front and sag over his flabby midsection. He wears a hideous plastic-looking watch with bracelets.  White dad sneakers. And he seems so uncomfortable talking- he looks miserable, as if his house of cards will suddenly come crashing down. And I would NOT want jewelry with red, white, blue and green stones. Sounds hideous.  The jeweler was hysterical, unable to contain his laughter as Michael sweats his way through the phone call about his card being rejected. I wonder what she was trying to buy with it? A house for her family?

Robert and Anny- he is so annoying.  "Hey, dog- Imma live my life happily ever after, yo?" The friend is like, ok- I warned you! Meanwhile, he's trying to sell her on sleeping with him and his little boy (uh, nope) in the same bed?!  I changed my mind- he isn't annoying; he's just stupid. 

Syngin and Tania- ugh; most guys wouldn't appreciate the gestures she made (while annoying the general public) to "welcome" him to New York.  "here, hold my purse while I blindfold you to hold up a banner."  (Did you read that the sign said, "love, your Suger"?) And whenever they show people throwing rose petals all over white bedspreads and then flopping down on them, I think, "well, those stains aren't going to come out." Syngin does nothing for me- he has a sort of cro-mag appearance and a flabby body. I think they might provide the most entertainment because she is the most neurotic control freak on this season. I'm not sure why she dragged the poor friends along with her, unless it was to document every second on Instagram for her. 

Edited November 11, 2019 by KateHearts

[FrancescaFiore]

What was Robert thinking, bringing this woman from the DR over without having ever considered that his son sleeps with him in the only bed in the apartment?? Did he not anticipate wanting some alone time with Anny? Did he not even bother telling her she'd be sharing a double bed with him AND HIS SON?

And does Robert discipline his child AT ALL? Free range children grow up to be a-hole adults. Based on the previews, it looks like he puts his foot down with Anny, (presumably because she decided she's too good to thrift shop) but his son continues to be wild and hyperactive. That kid needs some structure. And also maybe some Ritalin. 

[blubld43]

27 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I agree, however it is my understanding that Turkey is kinds Muslim Light on some things, so.....?  But either way Mursel is just weird to me.  Sitting there, with an odd glaze in his eyes, probably thinking about getting out of Nebraska.

To think (and please no throwing tomatoes) I kinda liked Robert AT FIRST.  In the previews!!!  Now - full on stop.  You want an unpaid Nanny/FB TO SHARE A BED WITH YOU AND YOUR SON and you proposed after eight hours.  Your homeboy from the DR warned you but no......here we go.  As soon as it became clear I was going to co-sleep with a four year old, I would have been gone.  I would have asked that question before landing but hey that is me.   As for Robert, once she sent 1000 mad emojis I would have stopped right there.  You can't call and talk?  Are we in middle school?  Oh wait......

I am dying over the whole sleeping situation! I mean, I have to say, who would have even thought to ASK if the kid had his own bed, I would just assume that. Of course, the premise of this franchise is going in blindly whenever possible, but this is a new low. Ben #2, a broke fool with a child and NO BUSINESS bringing over a foreign bride.

[Hangin Out]

8 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Because he can score a hot, exotic model from Brazil. Looks good on the arm.

Maybe, and she’s so hot he just might dump his kids and go live in Brazil for a skinny piece of ass that will take him to the poor house eventually.  Everything comes down to sex with these guys.  She must have done some number on him on that yacht he found her on.  Apparently, the U.S.A. Immigration Bureau must see thousands of them.  Lol.

[OFDgal]

The most animated Mursel was when he was dancing to Turkish music in the car.  I laughed out loud because it was like watching a musical when he started dancing.  I don't know what he expected when he landed in America but it definitely wasn't flat Nebraska.

[SevenCostanza]

9 hours ago, lizajane said:

I think Bryson is actually a very cute kid who is starved for affection, and maybe attention. The way he was clinging onto nAnny was kinda heartbreaking to me. And I would bet that Robert has filled his little head with ideas about Anny coming to be his new Mommy. But Robert better get another bed for him and hopefully not a used one from Sally Ann.

I felt bad for him when he was in bed calling her saying "I want Anny to snuggle with me".  Poor thing he just wants love.   I have no doubt his idiot father told him Anny would be his new mommy,

[Hangin Out]

4 minutes ago, OFDgal said:

The most animated Mursel was when he was dancing to Turkish music in the car.  I laughed out loud because it was like watching a musical when he started dancing.  I don't know what he expected when he landed in America but it definitely wasn't flat Nebraska.

He expected big cities, music, niteclubs, lots of people having fun and dancing.  He should have done his homework.  I don’t give two shits for each one of them two, it’s the three boys I feel sorry for.  A stranger in the house, doing nothing but sitting around and complaining the pizza wasn’t good.  WTF?

[Bryce Lynch]

I think TLC had that pizza and those nachos flown in from Fiji.  The foods looks exactly like the crap they give for rewards on Survivor.  

[Jel]

Tania and the rose petals. Putting aside the absolute 1980s cheesyness of it, I couldn't get past her entitlement. She had the nerve to be annoyed that the man whose job (contractual responsibility) it is to keep the floors clean and non-slippery would actually attempt to do his job. In the middle of her corny grand gesture. How dare he!  Hey Tania, fun fact -- other people matter, too.

Juliana not only looks like a child, she behaves like one too. And that is who Creepy Magruder wants for his wife. I'm disgusted by him.

Edited November 11, 2019 by Jel

[FrancescaFiore]

7 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I think TLC had that pizza and those nachos flown in 

That was the leftover pizza from the last Tell-All.

[Mrs. Hanson]

52 minutes ago, SevenCostanza said:

I felt bad for him when he was in bed calling her saying "I want Anny to snuggle with me".  Poor thing he just wants love.   I have no doubt his idiot father told him Anny would be his new mommy,

Yes - and to be answered with "Here let me plug in the Ninja Turtles" - okay.  Let's regroup.  You told him Anny was coming to be his new de facto mom.  Play that angle up big, my man!  So she gets here, it is now bedtime and Bryson legit asks for Anny to snuggle him to sleep.  He is met with agitated dad offering to plug him into the tv.  Nice message.  You guys wanna bone so bad?  Get a sitter and go to a motel.    Even getting him his own bed (TODAY!) and putting him in the living room, think of how displaced he is going to be.  I am all for these fools to find love, but when you out your kids in the middle of it - LITERALLY IN THE MIDDLE - please stop.   Robert gives so many mixed messages:  "Anny is gonna love you - but she just called you a monster."  All his messages are mixed except for those coming from Robert, Jr.

[AnnMarie17]

18 hours ago, Frozendiva said:

Nothing is free. You earn every dime.

My dear fabulous friend, Linda (RIP), used to say "If you marry for money, you work for it every damn day."  Too true.  Unlike Julianna, I'll earn my money on my terms, thank you very much. 

[Bryce Lynch]

58 minutes ago, Silver Bells said:

Maybe, and she’s so hot he just might dump his kids and go live in Brazil for a skinny piece of ass that will take him to the poor house eventually.  Everything comes down to sex with these guys.  She must have done some number on him on that yacht he found her on.  Apparently, the U.S.A. Immigration Bureau must see thousands of them.  Lol.

I got the sense that Michael was drawing the line at moving to Brazil or anywhere outside the US for Juliana.    When she brought up options like London, he seemed to get quiet and say things like, "We'll need to rethink things."   I took that to mean that if she can't get a visa, he will look for another way too young woman.  

[PamelaMaeSnap]

3 hours ago, Lizzing said:

I freakin' loved that Ms. Everything Needs To Be Perfect, Tania, couldn't be bothered to spell "sugar" correctly on her banner. 

SO THIS!!! I replayed twice and paused just to make sure I was reading it right ... 

[Bryce Lynch]

Just now, PamelaMaeSnap said:

SO THIS!!! I replayed twice and paused just to make sure I was reading it right ... 

I noticed that too.   Not that I give Tania much benefit of the doubt, but I wonder if that is the way she and Syngin spell his pet name for her (which I have little doubt she gave herself).  

The alternative is that neither Tania, either of her friends or the worker at the print shop know how to spell, "sugar".  

[Mrs. Hanson]

7 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I got the sense that Michael was drawing the line at moving to Brazil or anywhere outside the US for Juliana.    When she brought up options like London, he seemed to get quiet and say things like, "We'll need to rethink things."   I took that to mean that if she can't get a visa, he will look for another way too young woman.  

It annoyed me that they were sitting there speculating over everything.  Approved?  Denied?  Worrying will not help.  Go out to a nightclub (can she get it in Brazil at 20?) and talk when the decision comes through.  If she gets denied you can either break up or go long distance.  The choice is yours!

[Bryce Lynch]

I am thinking that Michael and Juliana might have played up her supposed offense at the prostitution question, for dramatic purposes.   It is a standard question on the visa application along with questions about terrorism, plots to overthrow the government, drug trafficking, etc. 

It was interesting that Michael claimed the interviewer asked if she was working as an "escort" when they met.  She might have been legally and legitimately an escort paid to hang out with men on yachts, but not necessarily to have sex with them.   If this was the case, I wonder how that would affect her ability to get a visa.  

[PamelaMaeSnap]

2 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I am thinking that Michael and Juliana might have played up her supposed offense at the prostitution question, for dramatic purposes.   

HE looked offended. She looked ... totally blank. 

[Persnickety1]

5 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I noticed that too.   Not that I give Tania much benefit of the doubt, but I wonder if that is the way she and Syngin spell his pet name for her (which I have little doubt she gave herself).  

The alternative is that neither Tania, either of her friends or the worker at the print shop know how to spell, "sugar".  

Anyone seen Mortal Thoughts with Bruce Willis and Demi Moore?  There was a great scene of Willis' illiterate character going on a rant about his wife buyng sugar for his coffee = "S-U-G-E-R, SUGAR!"  First thing I thought of when I saw that sign.  

I see I got my wish much sooner than I thought....the "your card has been declined" moment!  😄 As a few other posters have indicated, I also have doubts about Michael's financial status.  He really looked rather disconcerted during that conversation at the jewelry store about Julianna maxing out his card.  I wouldn't be surprised to know he was in debt up to his ass to play big shot to his  escort fiancee.  More than a couple of Bravo's housewives have pulled the frontin' and fraudin' routine and it invariably bites them in the ass.  Michael's a douche.  I do thank he and Juliana for the "she has a lot of stamps on her passport" line, though.  I'm going to be working that euphenism into my repertoire ASAP.

Anybody else note Masha saying that Sasha left her and their child for wife #2, then left wife #2 and their child for "#3?"  I'm going to take this to mean that, although Emily conveniently left it out when blathering about how she and Sasha met and their "romance," Sasha was with Wife #2 when he met Emily and bounced to spin the Green Card wheel.  Lovely.  Just fucking lovely.  

Anna and Mursel have the combined IQ of a coffee mug.  Wait, that's probably giving them too much credit.  Maybe more like a demitasse cup.  

And Robert appears to have the IQ of the saucer on which the demitasse cup rests.

What a lineup this season...We're only on episode 2 and already the cracks are showing.  😄 

[Bryce Lynch]

4 minutes ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

It annoyed me that they were sitting there speculating over everything.  Approved?  Denied?  Worrying will not help.  Go out to a nightclub (can she get it in Brazil at 20?) and talk when the decision comes through.  If she gets denied you can either break up or go long distance.  The choice is yours!

It is natural for them to worry, plus I am sure they do it for the cameras to create drama and suspense.  She is 22 so I assume she could get into a club. 

It seemed clear to me that Michael will break up with her, if she can't get the visa.   I'm sure she will get it, so we can have some cringe worthy scenes with her and Michael in Greenwich. 

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, Silver Bells said:

He expected big cities, music, niteclubs, lots of people having fun and dancing.  He should have done his homework.  I don’t give two shits for each one of them two, it’s the three boys I feel sorry for.  A stranger in the house, doing nothing but sitting around and complaining the pizza wasn’t good.  WTF?

Exactly.  I don't care what country you're in or from, you can take your own bags out of the car, you can bring your own plate to the kitchen, you can take interest in a video game and you can pretend the food is good.  

Mursel - a grown ass man, couldn't even bring his own bags up?  He did not bring even one of his bags up, he did not offer to bring his bags up and I'm not sure he coughed out a thank you.  

This is the one instance where I can say Americans on this show are generally better behaved than this guy.

He gets a pass because he seems pleasant and mentally slow, but I found his behavior when he met the boys wayyyyy off-putting. 

I thought Anna's boys were very well behaved and gracious.  They were open and asked questions that could have been conversation starters, but instead turned into mursel insulting the food. 

They asked him to play video games with them, and that could have been a chance to bond.  When I play with my 9 year old nephew I'm awful, but he likes having someone to play with, he likes explaining the game, the story behind the game and teaching me moves.  

Obviously, I just keep pushing all the buttons at once and hoping for the best.  

But mursel wouldn't even so much as touch the controller. 

31 minutes ago, AnnMarie17 said:

My dear fabulous friend, Linda (RIP), used to say "If you marry for money, you work for it every damn day."  Too true.  Unlike Julianna, I'll earn my money on my terms, thank you very much. 

👏👏👏👏

29 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I got the sense that Michael was drawing the line at moving to Brazil or anywhere outside the US for Juliana.    When she brought up options like London, he seemed to get quiet and say things like, "We'll need to rethink things."   I took that to mean that if she can't get a visa, he will look for another way too young woman.  

Quite a few times julianna mentioned that she wanted to get to the US and didn't want Michael to "give up on her" 

Putting two and two together I think she knows that he if he can't get her to the US to be his young trophy wife he will simply move on to the next model/student/yacht girl. 

She is 23 now....that is ridiculously young but I'm sure with the men she wants there are always younger/prettier girls on the scene. 

[Spike]

42 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

I noticed that too.   Not that I give Tania much benefit of the doubt, but I wonder if that is the way she and Syngin spell his pet name for her (which I have little doubt she gave herself).  

The alternative is that neither Tania, either of her friends or the worker at the print shop know how to spell, "sugar".  

Too much Tania gives you diabetes.

[Mrs. Hanson]

21 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

It is natural for them to worry, plus I am sure they do it for the cameras to create drama and suspense.  She is 22 so I assume she could get into a club. 

It seemed clear to me that Michael will break up with her, if she can't get the visa.   I'm sure she will get it, so we can have some cringe worthy scenes with her and Michael in Greenwich. 

Oh I hear you @Bryce Lynch.  It just goes against everything I am to sit around and worry.  But yes I agree - producer led drama, for certain.

3 minutes ago, RealReality said:

Mursel - a grown ass man, couldn't even bring his own bags up?  He did not bring even one of his bags up, he did not offer to bring his bags up and I'm not sure he coughed out a thank you.  

Nor bussed his dishes for the food he disliked.  Would not engage with the kids.  He is a lot of fun, no?