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S14.E10: Big O’s And Broken Toes

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I haven’t read all the posts about Emily, but, I hope she’s had a thorough blood work up as the blood tells  ALL.  Thyroid, arthritis and many things, before she starts the gym workouts.  I’m sure she already has, I hope.

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1 hour ago, Stats Queen said:

I agree, the Emily RA really did come out of the blue - that surprised me as well.

RA is a huge part of who I am,so for this to be the first we heard about it from Emily took me by surprise.

Of course, I’m not on a reality TV show - i am pretty boring- but I realize being boring is a good thing. Nor am I married to a dweeb like Shane... Although the first time I did marry outside my species - although the second time is coming on 25 years.

I know I’ve been rambling but my brother collapsed and did unexpectedly a week and a half ago - just turned 59 - and reality and wine head an effect on me tonight 

🤭Omgawd...Firstly...condolences..

your brother was too young...I’m so sorry...

you’ve been put through the fire SQ! 
So trite to say...but hang in there...!
you may have support around you...🙏

i wish I could do or say more...hell...I’d help you...or just talk Reality TV!...anything...for anybody going through a bad time if I could...if nothing more than taking your mind off everything.

sorr the RA rant struck a chord  during your needed escape...but I hope you and others are recognized for what you’re going through.

Love this helps you escape...
but I get it...I hope you’re not...but if you’re like me...I can’t and don’t ask for help...

it’s part of the reason I’m in the shape I’m in....

so reach out...I urge you.

God bless you and your brother...

🙏

😞

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6 hours ago, SweetieDarling said:

Some of it could be from the medications she's taking for her arthritis. If she's been having flair-ups she may have needed steroids which can cause puffiness and bloating...and if she's having flair-ups it's probably painful for her to exercise regularly -the vicious cycle she said she was in with her weight. I'm sure the stress from whatever was really going on with Shane didn't help either.

I know people who have had autoimmune issues and meds taken that cause the face to fill out. Trust me, her eyes are being swallowed up by the filler inejctions, not by meds.  

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9 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

I would find it hilarious if Bravo decides since there hasn't been a great reduction in viewership to fire Vicki and demote Tamra to Friend Of. Gina should be fired too as they aren't going to want to pay her for sitters and Uber.

RHOC runs 2nd or third on the cable ratings.  I saw something like 1.3M viewers.  Is that down?

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4 hours ago, Silver Bells said:

It’s definitely her thyroid.  I had it.  Puffiness in the face, swollen fingers, etc.  As soon as they regulate the thyroid, she’ll be better. 

I’m glad that you received thyroid treatment and have gotten better, but that isn’t the case for a lot of people who have autoimmune thyroid conditions (and the vast majority of thyroid conditions are autoimmune in nature). As someone who was diagnosed with thyroid issues more than ten years ago (in my twenties, but I believe I had the condition well before that), I can say that it’s not as simple as taking thyroid hormones for many of us. I do hope Emily is getting help from a functional MD who will not just give her replacement hormones without examining other contributing factors, causes, and lifestyle interventions. Even with the right help, autoimmune conditions can really shapeshift and require constant attention.  Also, if she does have an autoimmune thyroid condition, then there’s a good chance that her arthritis is RA. Autoimmune conditions love to attack together.

Also, others have said it, but it bears repeating: technically, Emily is overweight not obese (according to BMI). She’s 5’10 and 191 lbs. That makes her BMI 27.4, which is clearly in the overweight category. To be classified as “obese,” she would need to be at least 210 lbs, which would put her BMI over 30 (which is obese). The machine they use at Cut Fitness (InBody) suggests obesity be measured by PBF (Percent Body Fat), which uses different metrics than BMI.

https://inbodyusa.com/general/result-sheet-interpretation/#section2

From what I can tell, BMI (even with all its flaws) still seems to be the primary measure of obesity that docs use. There’s value in PBF, but I don’t think Eddie or Tamra know what they’re talking about. They’re just going by what InBody  tells them is obese. It’s literally just in the instruction manual on the company’s website.

https://www.webmd.com/diet/features/body-fat-measurement

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Re: Tamra's obsession with the whole "train" thing. She seems to think Braunwyn  is cool to have a threesome. Is there some kind of number limit that makes it okay for her? Or is it because the threesome is the male fantasy type (two women, one man) but it wouldn't be okay if it was two men and Braunwyn.

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7 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

RHOC runs 2nd or third on the cable ratings.  I saw something like 1.3M viewers.  Is that down?

Not in Bravo terms, I think SM chatter is how they gauge its shows. You also need to think about the shows they keep on with very low ratings - i.e. Patty Skanker lasted years

I don't see them dropping OC any time soon - it's one of their original RH shows

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On 10/10/2019 at 10:42 PM, Duke2801 said:

🤣 I adore them! I got tickets to go see them in Philly in December—so excited! 

OMG be sure to post feedback! They act out scenes on stage.

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12 hours ago, Stats Queen said:

I agree, the Emily RA really did come out of the blue - that surprised me as well.

RA is a huge part of who I am,so for this to be the first we heard about it from Emily took me by surprise.

Of course, I’m not on a reality TV show - i am pretty boring- but I realize being boring is a good thing. Nor am I married to a dweeb like Shane... Although the first time I did marry outside my species - although the second time is coming on 25 years.

I know I’ve been rambling but my brother collapsed and did unexpectedly a week and a half ago - just turned 59 - and reality and wine head an effect on me tonight 

I had no idea what you have been going thru as I skip around the thread.  I’m so sorry to hear of your suffering.  Much 💕 to you.

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Just now, Duke2801 said:

I will! I can’t wait! Have you seen them live? 

I haven't seen them LIVE, every time I've tried to buy NY tickets they are sold out.  But I've listened to them from the start. Before Watch What Crappens  they made a few videos - I think they called it Housewives Hoedown. When they started the WWC podcast they used to bring their computer to a place like the food court of a mall - and their buddy Matthew I think from yahoo used to join them

If you subscribe to them on Patreon you can watch their podcasts when they have them in front of a live audience

When I mentioned the plastic hammer for the Shannon bowl I made a mistake - I think it was a rubber toilet scrubber they used to bonk each other.

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8 hours ago, MrsWitter said:

From what I can tell, BMI (even with all its flaws) still seems to be the primary measure of obesity that docs use. There’s value in PBF, but I don’t think Eddie or Tamra know what they’re talking about. They’re just going by what InBody  tells them is obese. It’s literally just in the instruction manual on the company’s website.

My conclusion as well.

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2 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:
9 hours ago, MajorNelson said:

RHOC runs 2nd or third on the cable ratings.  I saw something like 1.3M viewers.  Is that down?

Not in Bravo terms, I think SM chatter is how they gauge its shows.

SM, smh.  So they measure how many comments and likes, tweets and posts.  Looking back at PT threads....I see season 10 episodes would have 10-15 pages of comments.  Maybe this "train" has slowed down.  ;D

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On 10/11/2019 at 11:52 PM, MrsWitter said:

The machine they use at Cut Fitness (InBody) suggests obesity be measured by PBF (Percent Body Fat), which uses different metrics than BMI.

https://inbodyusa.com/general/result-sheet-interpretation/#section2

Thanks for your research.  You now, Eddie gave her the muscle(/bone) weights and fat weight and they added up to 191 pounds but in the examples at at InBody, these never add up to the person's Total Weight.  Seems like a third thing, perhaps water or organs, add in.  In the examples, there is 40-60 pounds of other!  Implying poor Emily is over 191.  Also giving us doubts about Eddie's expertise,

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Note to Duke2801

Here's a live performance from 2018. They reviewed the Classic OC Episode of "Naked Wasted".

Question to all, was Jeana Keough's weight/BMI/obese/not obese talked about as much as Emily's is now?

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On 10/11/2019 at 1:21 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

they all came to key west again... they got trashed and filmed in a drag bar 

AND!?!?!?!

Details!  We, or at least I, want details!

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7 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Question to all, was Jeana Keough's weight/BMI/obese/not obese talked about as much as Emily's is now?

My recollection is that Jeana's storyline was that her husband was so awful to her because she'd gained "twenty pounds" since her Playboy Bunny days. The show started and she told us Matt and his mom chose her for her genes and once they'd procreated and she put on weight, he had no use for her.  I guess that was such a weird/sad story that no one really commented on it because...how do you comment on that??

Jeana was always trying to lose.  Remember her goofy trainer who would do weird things like come to her house and throw out all her food?  He didn't look like he was missing too many meals either.  In season three, Jeana, Vicki and Tamra all did Boot Camp together, and there was a consensus among the women that Jeana's ass was smaller than Vicki's.

But, no, to answer the question posed, I don't think there was as much attention paid to Jeana's weight. I think it's because Jeana came on the show at her heaviest, so there was no gain to comment on, and I also think it's because she was a bit older than Emily, in addition to the fact that Jeana got ahead of it and made it her thing from jump.  She bitched about her weight so much that everyone else was probably sick of talking about it.  

Jeana did a Jackie Warner Bravo spin-off about weight loss, and I think she weighed 170 lbs when they first weighed her, before she lost, and she looked thicker than Emily to me, so it just goes to show how some people carry weight better than others. 

I really, really like Jeana Keough, and I don't think this show would have declined as much as it did if she would have stuck around, but one thing that turned me off about her was that she always seemed to be debuting a huge weight loss, plus a cosmetic surgery, and she supposedly looked so good, and...I never saw a difference.  I never got Jeana's physical reformations.  She always looked the same to me.  She looks the same to me now.

So, actually, if my memory is correct, Jeana got the exact opposite treatment Emily is getting:  she only got attention for losing weight.  Even Tamra said that Jeana had a smaller/better ass than Vicki, and Tamra hated Jeana.  I think there was something about the way Jeana carried herself that made other women disregard her as a threat.

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On 10/10/2019 at 4:24 PM, Keywestclubkid said:

Im sorry to point this out but being thin does not equate to being Healthy! people are confusing healthy with a lot of shit they shouldn’t be. People have different body types and different healthy weights. No two people are gonna be the exact same. But don’t confuse  Thin/slim with healthy. This is why people have eating disorders. It’s better to consult a professional with what your ideal body weight should be One size does not fit all when it comes to this.  Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk lol 

I agree, and Weight Watchers is the way to go, but I don’t think Pig heads are allowed.

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Weight is a hotter topic now than ever.  Nothing has really ever been said about Vicki's weight, even though she's larger than the others.  In the real world, Vicki is average or smaller than many women her age, but for this group, in OC, the teensy-tinier they are, the more accepted.

Shannon's story was different, because her weight gain was apparent, and she admitted it was caused due to her unhappiness, so she chose to reveal her struggle.  

But because Emily is tall, and she carries it so well, it's not as noticeable as Shannon's.  I'm built more like Shannon, and shorter, so I get her struggles.

But the teensy-tiny thing amongst women of this age range (which I'm in) seems to be the "in thing" these days, everywhere.  Remember when Heather Dubrow was adding a pizza oven to her kitchen, she said, "I eat pizza once a year, but this will be for the rest of the family".  Who eats pizza only once a year?  Heather Dubrow, that's who.

It always amazes me that these women eat out so often, drink so much, yet are obviously denying themselves food/drink when the cameras aren't rolling.  

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On 10/13/2019 at 8:51 AM, Sterling said:

It always amazes me that these women eat out so often, drink so much, yet are obviously denying themselves food/drink when the cameras aren't rolling.  

And that's incredibly unhealthy and self-defeating. You're messing with your metabolism when you're basically fasting then binging. 

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On 10/13/2019 at 5:36 AM, Silver Bells said:

I agree, and Weight Watchers is the way to go, but I don’t think Pig heads are allowed.

I agree about WW!  Well, if she figured out the points in pig head...

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2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

And that's incredibly unhealthy and self-defeating. You're messing with your metabolism when you're basically fasting then binging. 

That’s actually a myth. https://idmprogram.com/fix-broken-metabolism/
 

Dr Fung is a highly respected dr in the intermittent fasting world. I’ve been fasting for about 9 months and have never been healthier. I eat what I want and don’t have to count points or eat salads all the time and I’ve lost close to 30 pounds. 

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13 hours ago, Mountainair said:

That’s actually a myth. https://idmprogram.com/fix-broken-metabolism/
 

Dr Fung is a highly respected dr in the intermittent fasting world. I’ve been fasting for about 9 months and have never been healthier. I eat what I want and don’t have to count points or eat salads all the time and I’ve lost close to 30 pounds. 

This is so important. Understanding how insulin release signals fat storage you will know why intermittent fasting is most healthy.

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Emily's husband looks like the love child of a giant insect and John Cryer (2 and a Half Men/Ducky from Pretty in Pink). 

And....just watching a repeat of the episode where Shannon debuts her diet food on QVC. Tamra is watching it and says (something along the lines of) "Shannon is going to do great. She won't need Davids money. She can make it on her own and have her own money".   Ummm Tamra, we all know your dumb, but really? Do you not know that Shannon has/had/will always have her own money? Shannon was independently wealthy when she met David and she doesn't need QVC to survive. Shannon is wealthy on her own. Unlike you Tamra. 

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"Shannon is going to do great. She won't need Davids money. She can make it on her own and have her own money". 

I also doubt that her QVC sales will allow her to live at the current lifestyle she is at (ie, David's money and her own money). I mean, kudos to her for starting her own business and all that, but I don't see it taking the diet food industry by storm.

Then again, who knows, Lisa Rinna supposedly did really well from selling on QVC, though that was clothes, not food.

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3 hours ago, Hiyo said:

Then again, who knows, Lisa Rinna supposedly did really well from selling on QVC, though that was clothes, not food.

She made alot of money selling adult diapers too!

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