Jump to content

Type keyword(s) to search

SeanC

Member
  • Posts

    5.3k
  • Joined

Everything posted by SeanC

  1. I expect next season will be Littlefinger vs. Boltons, with Sansa being involved somehow.
  2. I do, because GRRM is not a bad writer, and he doesn't do things just to "fuck up with fans".
  3. Except that GRRM and the story that he's been writing say otherwise (as do the writers of the show, even though there's been absolutely no follow-through).
  4. I have no idea whether we're going to see Dorne again next season, but if we do, the opening scene had better be Doran having Ellaria, Tyene, Obara and Nym's heads mounted on spikes, considering they just murdered a girl who was under Doran's protection and in the process deliberately allowed Doran's own son and heir to become a Lannister captive. There is literally zero reason for any of those women to still be alive.
  5. Were you attempting to quote me in another thread with that first paragraph? No, the point of sending Sansa to Winterfell was so that she could replace Jeyne Poole and so the show wouldn't have to do the Eyrie story. That's perfectly clear.
  6. In fact, Sansa in KL did precisely that...in the books, where the show didn't gut her plot. She daringly went to the Godswood in the middle of the night, sneaking through the Red Keep, to answer a message and see about the possibility of escape even though she knew it could easily be a trap. So I guess Sansa in the show has caught up to where she would have been if the writers had faithfully adapted season 2. At this rate she might catch up with Book 4 Sansa by the seventh season! Sansa is supposed to be learning to play the game of thrones. That's her skill set, the thing we were told rather explicitly that she would be doing in season 4, especially. That did not happen at all. Indeed, she regressed basically back to square one at the start of this season, and never accomplished anything.
  7. I expect next season will open with Sansa and Theon meeting up with Brienne and Pod, and heading north to Castle Black, only to learn about Jon's death. But that will put them in contact with Davos, who will probably join their group and end up helping look for Rickon, sort of like he is in the books.
  8. Even without Brienne, he was clearly injured there. I really don't see what the point of him being alive would be, at this point; he's got no army or followers. He's done.
  9. My preliminary thoughts on the various main characters' seasons: Jaime - LOL. Arya - Slow start, but great finish. Cersei - The usual show logic problems, but on the whole this was pretty good stuff. Jon - Brilliant right up until they inexplicably botched the ending. Sam - He didn't quite have a story of his own, but I thought the buildup to him leaving was pretty good, the attempted rape of Gilly aside. Stannis - Started off really good, before it was revealed it was all just a setup for D&D to indulge in her hatred of Stannis to the fullest. Brienne - good start, then a lot of nothing, capped by a truly preposterous scene of Brienne killing a man who's already seriously injured (justice!). Sansa - and I was right, a complete waste (and the idea of her manipulating Ramsay using the Walda pregnancy was a complete bust, as it was indeed just there for her to use as a one-liner). Theon - pretty much had his story hijacked (not that it served the hijacker at all), and the end was super-rushed. Tyrion - eh, fine, I guess. Dany - the writers don't have a particularly great handle on Meereen, in my opinion, but on the whole I thought this was okay.
  10. Actors lie about this kind of stuff in interviews all the time.
  11. I really don't see the problem with either of those. Joffrey, especially, was a character who was thoroughly played-out by the time he died.
  12. Well, that was kind of a trainwreck D&D have never liked Stannis, and that shines through in this episode. I have no doubt that Stannis will die in the books, but it won't be anything like this. Ridiculous, to the end, from half the army leaving with nobody noticing, to Stannis just walking up to Winterfell, to somehow ending up in the woods completely alone just so Brienne can appear to kill him. And Sansa's Winterfell story can officially be declared a complete waste of her character development, as she did nothing all season but re-enact her season 2 story, and all the things people suggested might be manipulations were in fact just "cool" one-liners. Apparently, putting a Stark in Winterfell means absolutely nothing. Arya's storyline finally got good (apart from the scene opening with Meryn beating the three girls; yeesh, why was that necessary? We already know he's a villain), and had a very effective ending. I thought Cersei's story was also done well, and I found it interesting how the last few episodes have mimicked the books' POV approach, in that we see nothing of King's Landing beyond what she sees. They botched "For the Watch" completely. If Thorne was going to kill Jon based on the stuff he'd already done, why the hell did he let him through the gates last episode? Because when the Pink Letter is removed, that's all he's acting on. Edit: Oh, and Dorne. Goddamn Dorne, with the Sand Snakes' brilliant plan to get Trystane immediately killed. Though I did enjoy that Bronn survived, validating my conviction the idea that he was going to die based on nothing beyond the fact that Arys Oakheart, a character with no connection whatsoever to Bronn's role in the show, died, was dumb.
  13. That doesn't make sense, though, because she is the one with the more valuable name (hence, why the Boltons want her), and there are supposedly tons of restive Northern bannermen out there. What does she gain by marrying into the Boltons? Nothing, even if Ramsay wasn't a psycho, because the Boltons clearly know she's their enemy, and she herself doesn't make any attempt to hide this. Marrying into the Boltons is no help at all toward avenging her family, which is again supposedly what she's doing. Littlefinger's going to, with Vale soldiers who are evidently skilled at fighting in ice and snow.
  14. Er, yes, she can't do that while locked in a room...but she's locked in a room because she went to Winterfell instead of cultivating support in the Vale and seeking to make use of it. You also miss that the lords of the Vale, as established last season, are far more well-inclined to her than to Baelish; the latter has their friendship only because she vouched for him. That they're "responsible to Robin Arryn" is irrelevant, because she's supposed to be learning to play the game of thrones, which is persuading or manipulating people to serve your interests, just as Littlefinger did. By your own logic, she opted to become a hostage. She went to Winterfell, which is completely in control of her enemies, enemies who clearly know she doesn't like them (which she makes no attempt to hide). Thus, she is a hostage. You're ignoring that the whole reason the Boltons want her, supposedly, is because their rule is endangered by the lack of support from other Northern houses. So Sansa could go and rally those Northern houses (the same ones Littlefinger expects Stannis to want to rally to him upon taking Winterfell). She can make friends and influence people by making contact with them, which she can do from the Vale and/or, after establishing contacts, by going to parts of the North where allies can be found.
  15. In-universe, he left because he wants to get the army of the Vale to attack Winterfell, which would be considerably more difficult to do from Winterfell (though this also implies that he was planning to leave anyway, though he could not have known about Cersei sending for him). Out-of-universe, he left because they wanted Sansa to be raped and abuse with impunity like Jeyne was, since Sansa is there to replace Jeyne Poole.
  16. Yes, she's waiting to be rescued. There's been nothing to indicate grabbing the corkscrew was anything more than her seizing a potential defensive weapon, let alone that she has some plan that requires her to have a corkscrew. Brienne is the person Sansa is trying to signal with that candle (though she doesn't know it). Why would she spit in the eye of a rescuer she herself tried to summon. No, it's not a good idea to keep Sansa locked away. They threw over the Lannisters to get Sansa, supposedly to cement Northern loyalties; keeping her as a tortured hostage would just foment unrest; and it alienates Littlefinger, whose alliance they desperately need now that KL is their enemy. As it is, they've gotten all of the negatives of breaking with the Lannisters and none of the benefits.
  17. They take orders from Littlefinger just fine, as we see. And they are responsible to her cousin, and led by powerful lords who are Stark-friendly. Any reasonable plan of action (like, for instance, the one she's trying to carry out in the books, and Littlefinger's in the show) would involve bringing them into play, or, failing that, attempting to cultivate all the Stark loyalists who apparently exist offscreen in the North. She does neither, opting instead to become a hostage of the Boltons waiting to be rescued (which is what she is in the plan Littlefinger gives her, not just what happens because she misjudged Ramsay).
  18. Where did I say Sansa was stupid for not knowing about Ramsay?
  19. In fact, there is a "ginormous army", in the Vale...the very one that Littlefinger is planning to use in the very same season, the one lead by lords whose friendship Sansa was cultivating at the end of last season. Infiltration only makes sense if you can actually accomplish something by doing that. What was she expecting to accomplish? Literally the only thing Baelish suggested she do was charm Ramsay, which she didn't even attempt; she just sat around sulking, making it perfectly clear that she hates all of them, and waiting to be rescued.
  20. Again, no, she's there to "avenge them"...somehow. It makes her stupid because she put herself in that situation supposedly as some sort of scheme, but does absolutely nothing while there, not even attempting to charm Ramsay, which was the one thing Littlefinger suggested she do. She told them that Petyr kissed her on the cheek and that Lysa went crazy with jealously and committed suicide. Perfectly false. There's no "simple truths" in what Sansa says; it's a story she concocts to get a specific result that she wants. Which is that she wants to rescue the "devil she knows" to achieve some further purpose. But the end of that season clearly indicates that she's as much looking to manipulate Littlefinger, indicating that she does not trust him -- again, a plot point that season 5 drops entirely, as she credulously does whatever he says and never once attempts anything like a separate agenda. Except none of that was in the show, and there is never any remotely credible reason why Sansa would want to marry the Boltons, because it gains her nothing (as, indeed, once she gets there she becomes completely powerless). The Littlefinger/Lysa comparison is a complete non-starter Playing the game means, first and foremost, having a plan that makes some modicum of sense, and demonstrating brains, neither of which she's done this season. I don't see how that last scene could be interpreted as showing her falling for Littlefinger, based on the preceding scene. Because, again, she's supposedly there to avenge her family and manipulate the Boltons, and she is not making the slightest attempt at doing either of those things.
  21. She's supposedly there on being urged to "avenge" her family. So you think she's going to do that by marrying into her family's murderers? She wasn't "telling simple truths" in episode 408. She was making calculated strategic assessments of people and deploying her background and a mixture of the truth and lies to achieve a result she wanted, i.e., playing the game of thrones. And the season ended with the rather obvious point that she was seeking to use her sexuality to manipulate Baelish. Absolutely none of this is seen in season 5. She was sulking in episode 505-506, before she was locked up in a room.
  22. She allowed herself to be dragged from Runestone to Moat Cailin, a distance of hundreds of miles, without ever asking where they were going; agreed to marry Ramsay with absolutely no details as to what the point of this was; and has done nothing, since arriving in Winterfell, beyond sulk, get abused and raped, and spout "cool" one-liners. There's no trace of any of the character development that episode 408 suggested we were going to see (beyond, until episode 506, her wardrobe).
  23. Ned and Littlefinger had already given Cersei everything she needed to foil Ned's plan. He was doomed. The only thing Sansa going to Cersei changed was ensuring Sansa's own capture.
  24. The Austrian Sky network as put the "Previously on..." for the season finale online. It's basically all the expected stuff except for:
  25. That's the thing, the people associated with the show say he wasn't manipulating her. Book Sansa has learned much faster than the show version, at this point (particularly in King's Landing, where the show excised most of her character development and she just sat around doing nothing).
×
×
  • Create New...