Sooner Smiles

Cam’s been defending Eliza on Instagram talking about how sweet she is, but here’s my problem. She has a total lack of empathy and understanding of the situation she has created. Imagine someone came on the show and talked about how Eliza’s father and his mistress were like family to them and how they hadn’t done anything to this person so they were still close with the father and mistress. Then this same person goes on to spread damaging gossip about about her mother. If this person were to then confront Eliza with a “I don’t understand why there’s a problem with us?” How do we think Eliza would act? Then if Eliza went off on this person about how hurtful the whole situation was with her family only to be told “everyone has had hard times in life.” What then? Would Eliza be open to be around this person and having a friendship with them? I don’t think so. It’s not a perfect analogy, but there’s no way Eliza would be cool to someone like that so I don’t know why she thinks Katherine would be cool with her. I’m not cool with her either. At least for now.

I think GFM took down her campaign because it was bail for a domestic violence arrest. According to their website they can take it down for the following reason: 8. campaigns we deem, in our sole discretion, to be in support of, or for the legal defense of alleged crimes associated with hate, violence, harassment, bullying, discrimination, terrorism, or intolerance of any kind relating to race, ethnicity, national origin, religious affiliation, sexual orientation, sex, gender or gender identity, or serious disabilities or diseases;

Yeah but when Debbie controls the checkbook a $20 Forever 21 dress is a luxury not often experienced 😂

Am I the only one who thinks Coltee refused to pony up the money for a nice dress for Larissa to wear to the reunion so she came up with the lost luggage story so production would buy her clothes? She knew she had them over a barrel by refusing to go out there until they came up with a nice enough dress. I’ll eat Cheetos with all you Slut People if production doesn’t have to chase her down and peel that dress off her body to get it back!

I hope this is the right place to post this. Apparently Ashley is in Santa Barbara and was supposed to get paid to do a club appearance. Page Six is reporting that the club has cancelled her appearance and apologized to their LGBT patrons for booking her in the first place. I feel like I’m missing part of this story. Does anyone know what the scuttlebutt is?

I understand Katherine was a really bad person and an even worse mom. She did completely awful things that will affect those kids for the rest of their lives. However, going forward, the best thing that can happen is for her to stay healthy and to be in her children’s lives in a positive way. As long as she is doing what she is supposed to do and working on herself and her relationship with her kids then I’m rooting for her. For their sakes if nothing else. It’s not about ignoring her past or thinking she’s a saint, but I can’t keep kicking someone for their past behavior when from all appearances they seem to be working so hard to do better.

I really didn’t like the way Ashley was implying Katherine had a problem with one of her drug tests. She made it sound like it was shady, but when Katherine said she was working and was having trouble getting there by 5:00, Ashley said well you better be glad they let you come late or it would have counted as a fail. Really, so Katherine is working at her job and Ashley would use that against her in regards to custody. That’s just not right. Having someone like her have a say in whether I got to see my children or not would scare the crap out of me.

What was happening with Louis’ face? It seemed in really bad shape. I’m not sold on the new girl yet. It’s always a red flag for me when a girl says she gets along better with other guys instead of girls. They are usually drama. I kind of feel bad for Katherine with regards to the proposal. If she and Lyle really did talk and she told him she wasn’t ready and then he proposed anyway that really sucks. She ends up looking like the bad guy for saying no on camera and breaking his heart and disappointing her friends and family, but that’s no reason to say yes to marrying someone. Marriage is hard enough without saying yes just because you don’t want to be rude or hurt someone’s feelings. Hopefully this season will find its feet and get good!

Naomi does that mean girl high school thing in her fight with JD and Peyton both where she says “everybody here feels the same”. Girl, try fighting your own fights and don’t put words in other people’s mouths. It’s just such a shitty, isolating feeling when someone does that to you.

Agreed, and correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t Naomi track Craig down when he was out of state out of the blue when she had no interest in him before he was on a reality show? I guess you really do see in other people what you’re capable of doing yourself.

I really dislike it when girls go after the other girl instead of being mad at the guy. Peyton really didn’t seem to have any idea why Naomi was mad at her. Have we even seen Craig and Peyton in a scene together? Also, screw you Craig for saying you were only thinking about Peyton for a one night stand. I don’t even especially like Peyton, but that was just bad.

This episode proved to me that Naomi doesn’t have any good girl friends. A good friend would have told her she was being bat shit crazy and was going to look like the bad guy in all this and found her a hot guy to flirt with instead of letting her run her mouth like an idiot to everyone at the party advertising how insecure she is. My friends also would have thrown me into the water before they let me light into Peyton like that and show what an horrid, immaculating shrew I was. That was a lot of crazy in one hour. Whoosh. I think Naomi doesn’t want Craig, but is terrified that he’ll find someone else and be happy. Then, in her crazy mind, that makes the breakup her fault and Craig wins and she loses. She can’t have that. Girlfriend has to win at all costs.

You and @ghoulina make good points, and maybe it wasn’t a dig. But if it was, that’s what makes it so great. Bethenny can definitely deny it and say she didn’t mean anything and what is Carol going to say? It would make her look petty to belabor the point. Not that being petty has ever stopped these chicks before. Maybe I just want it to a jab because I think it would be expert level shade. lol

This may be BEC, but Sonja’s tagline really annoys me this season. “I’m not just a last name. I’m a legacy.” Ummm, lady, that’s your last name by marriage. A marriage that has been over for more than a decade. I could see it if she grew up with the pressures and responsibilities that I’m sure come with that type of last name, but she didn’t. She’s just riding the coattails of her ex-husband and trying to make herself look a part of this upper echelon of society that she’s not at anymore. Between that and her name dropping Ivanka Trump, my eyes about rolled out of my head. Oof. She’s a lot.

IMO Bethenny scored a direct hit on Carol in this episode. She knows Carol’s weakness is her pride in being seen as an accomplished journalist and author, and not just a valid reality star. Stupid Aviva went after Carol with a full frontal attack on the ghost writer accusation which just made everyone say WTF. Bethany implies Carol wouldn’t be able to handle accompanying her to Puerto Rico. Which, to me, was a huge jab at a woman who literally reported from a war zone. I don’t really have a dog in the fight. I like and dislike things about both women. I just had to give a shout out to Bethenny’s game. I’m going to assume Carol was livid when she heard that.

Craig needs to take Gizmo and run far and fast away from crazy! A tracker on his phone? Wanting the address of a girl and all of her family because Craig might be interested in her? She’s gonna boil Gizmo if he’s not careful. And the way Naomi went after Liz was crazy to me. Liz has four kids with JD. Showing up to a baby shower with him was not an attack on her. How in the world Naomi managed to make it about her is unbelievable.

I admit that I’ve never been a fan of Kathryn’s, but I realized last night that I feel sad for her. She’s still so young, but in all of her talking heads she’s just so jaded and bitter. She’s been through a lot, and I’m not saying her attitude is completely unjustified. I know life can be hard and kick you in the teeth. But at that age, you should be alive with the possibilities of life. I also thought it was sad she never really had girlfriends before. I suspect she was one those girls who say they’re not like other girls and only have guy friends. That’s always a huge red flag for me with women. Hopefully she can keep on a positive trajectory.

I have a theory that Meri's Mom has nothing to do with any of this house business. I think Meri wanted the house, Meri didn't want to run the business, and she is manipulating everyone around her including her mother. We have no idea what Meri told her mother or what her mother said to her. Maybe I just have very little trust in what Meri says, but unless they show the conversation between them, I'm suspicious that Meri's Mom expected Meri to buy this house for her to live in without kicking in any money or work. Meri could be using her mother to try and grab this house and have everyone else pay for it. Just a theory.

Did anyone else get the sense that the intern who had served overseas was transgender?

That may be one of the saddest hours of television I've ever seen. As stupid as I think this whole setup is (and I feel it is even more stupid for them to keep defending it when they are so obviously unhappy) it still sort of broke my heart to see this woman so utterly broken. Would it have killed Kodouche to show a little empathy??

I'm sure you are 100% correct. I would also NEVER drive downtown to try and outrun a storm or advocate anyone leaving their house during a storm! But, if I had reservations for Mickey Mantle's in Bricktown during a tornado watch I wouldn't cancel my reservations and I'd feel pretty safe going. It's just about being weather aware around here :)

Someone was asking if Brianna lived in Moore since we've had bad luck with tornadoes. She actually lives in Choctaw which is a nice suburb, but more small town than Moore, Norman or OKC. Tinker is a huge base. My hubby was in the Air Force for 26 years and he was stationed at Tinker when I had my son. There were a ton of Mommy and Me type groups that were available, as well as the ubiquitous Bunko parties for military wives :) Also, for whoever was asking why the choice was the storm shelter or going to Bricktown for dinner for some reasons tornadoes never hit downtown...or they haven't in the 41 years I've been alive. My Granny always said it was because of the river, but I'm no Gary England (a famous OK meteorologist) so I have no idea if that's true or not. The garage storm shelters are super convenient and super easy since we can't have basements here. When I was a kid most storm shelters looked like the one Dorothy had in the Wizard of Oz. With it in your garage, it means you don't have to run through your yard in the hail and wind if you have to get into it. Of course, Vicki and Brianna were being way more dramatic about any it than they needed to be. I lived in Moore for the May 3rd tornado which was the strongest in recorded history and the May 20th tornado a few years ago that took out practically half of the city. I've never in my life heard of anyone sitting in their shelter for 12 hours. You also register your shelter with the city, so if for some reason you are trapped they send the fire department to come and dig you out. Just a little OK knowledge for some background. I so rarely have any knowledge that is useful in the Real Housewives Universe! lol

This concept is very confusing to me. If Jen was born in the wrong body as a man, but she always identified as female doesn't that make her female? So, as a female if she's attracted to women wouldn't that make her a lesbian. I understand labels are troublesome and not always necessary, I'm just trying to understand so I don't say something incorrectly that might hurt someone's feelings. I'm not sure I understand how Jen could be considered heterosexual.

Well, we're really only allowed to disclose that type of information to people who are residents walnut queen, but I'll break the rules just for you. We pattern our diet on the ladies of Michigan and eat lots and lots of potatoes. And, of course, testicles from farm animals. Only after they're deep fried though and we insist on eating them with an extra side dish of potatoes! Our appetizers are chips and salsa so David would be happy. Hope that helps :)

I'm normally a lurker who really enjoys reading y'all's snark, but I had to come out of lurkerdom to give an update from the forgotten state of Oklahoma. My friend texted me super excited because she was at the clinic on base when who should she see? Yup, Ragey Ryan! Brianna and the kids weren't with him, but she managed to get a pic of him. She didn't say anything because her daughter threatened her life if she embarrassed her, but she was able to get in a Woo Hoo as he passed by. Is it awful that I want to go and sit outside the BX and Commissary to catch a glimpse of Brianna....yeah....a little too stalkerish :)