LindaT

Did Maria not get like $10,000 worth of clothes? Why didn't we get to see the parade of clothes and the girls pretending to be happy for her while they are seething with jealousy? It is always one of the best moments every season. I don't want Maria bullied and I was glad that Sidney and Lea went home, but Maria has an off-putting look-at-me personality and doesn't have good make-female-friends skills. I don't think she should have been bullied but I can see why she was singled out.

I think Gerry was 100% Leslie going into overnights. Maybe Theresa and Gerry got closer during overnights, but it was when his daughter told him that she questioned Leslie's ability to have a long-lasting relationship, that is the moment he changed his mind. He judged Leslie's past and went with the safe bet. What a coward.

When David Hyde Pierce wants a million billion dollars, you pay David Hyde Pierce a million billion dollars.

Thanks, Carrps! I stand corrected. This makes the bullying even worse: bulling someone for their placement who didn't even win.

I was routing for Kayne this season and didn't really like Anna until Kayne and Korto bullied Anna after placing in the top last ep, taking the joy away from her and making her admit that she didn't deserve it. Glad Kayne went home. Hope Korto is the next to go. I don't think Korto or Kayne would appreciate anyone telling them they didn't deserve to place. What a couple of sore-losing jerks! edited b/c Anna didn't win, she was in the top.

Did I hear this wrong? If Charity's parents have been together for 48 years, then they were already together for 20 years when her mom was pregnant with her. Is this correct?

Charity is a great gal but it seems like Gabi deserved to be the Bachelorette because she was the heart-broken lady in second place. Why wasn't Gabi chosen to be the Bachelorette? Poor lady was chosen second and doesn't even get chosen to be the Bachelorette. That is just going to reinforce her belief that she isn't good enough.

What an idiot! Has he never met a woman before? He thought that telling Kaity that he had originally made a pact not to boink anyone and was able to resist one of the ladies but not the other one would make Kaity so happy he was honest it would make her love him even more. IDIOT!

The way they announced Charity as the Bachelorette was so unceremonious with her celebrating all by herself backstage! I was on team Gabi for the next Bachelorette, but whomever is named The Bachelorette, there should be a crowd and fanfare!!

We (my family) cracked up when we saw how little and unintimidating Ariel's brother is. LOL!

My daughter thinks the name of Gabby's and Zach's fragrance should be called Shallcrotch.

Love this show but I'm having trouble overlooking the fact that she looks like she is talking to herself out loud in public and at work. She looks crazy!

So I lost respect for Zach this episode. I feel that Greer's situation was worse because she was working on an actual deadline for work and didn't have the luxury of having life stop until she got better. Also, even if Zach's situation was worse, why argue? What a jerk! Also, he talks about himself more than any other bachelor. When the girls are telling their producer-pushed sad-sob stories, Zach interjects a lot. It is almost as bad as when Gabby, the Bachelorette, would interrupt in every episode with, "...everything that you just said reminds me about how my mother doesn't love me". Zach is turning into an all-about-me boyfriend.

The whole Kylee/Anastasia kerfuffle started when Anastasia tried to force the kiss during the limbo and took Zach away. Kylee thought Anastasia needed to be taught a lesson by having Zach taken away from her and Kylee was just the one to do it with her unflattering bathing suit and all. Anastasia was in the wrong for being so threatened by the "fight-you" comment. Also, Zach should have asked Kylee for just a few minutes to finish the conversation. Kylee didn't "have to" tell Zach anything. Just because the girls are taking comfort in getting Instagram followers if they lose doesn't mean they are there for the wrong reasons. Seriously, aren't they all there for the fame? How many would participate if it was the exact same thing except it wasn't televised? And even then, you could argue that they are only there for the trips. When are the Bachelors going to realize that the motivation for the tattlers is usually jealousy. Shame on Charity for not bringing context to Anastasia's comment! Rant all done. I need a nap.

I would totally enjoy, with every fiber of my being, to watch a 13 episode makeover show where the Property Brothers or Christina (Flip or Flop) or some other fabulous HGTV star renovates the Bachelor Mansion. Please, please, please!!!! Brianna is such a little whiny baby! All girls know that "oh I hate you" means "I'm jealous". It is not an insult it is a compliment!

I baby vomit every time the Tampa team refers to anything in their flip as "sexy". I don't think they know what that word means. I could see the lead guy saying he is going to get dressed up in a "sexy" outfit and he comes out wearing a sandwich board with a mural of Tampa on it. Sexy!

I think that Eliza was using the "you didn't fight for me" excuse so she would make it seem like it was Rodney's fault that she went on the date with Justin. She went on the date with Justin because she wanted to. Rodney never had a chance. She was more into Justin from the start. Rodney was always going to be Mr. Right Now until Eliza meets her real person. Maybe it is Justin. We will see.

What I would love to see is Graham Wardle decide that he made a mistake and come back to the show. I don't care how they do it: faked death or seasons 14 & 15 a bad dream like Bobby's return on "Dallas". The only big problem with the dream idea is the age of the child actors. For me, this show went down hill with the killing-off of Ty. Didn't enjoy sad Amy for two seasons!

Any Gabby Bachelor: Here is something about me. Gabby: That reminds me of how my mother left me. Have you heard the story? I'll tell it again while bawling.

I see Pamela Bellwood from Dynasty.

ETA: I guess I read her wrong. I am clearly the only one who doesn't like Taylor. I will watch tomorrow with an open mind about her. Am I the only one who hates Taylor? Taylor is so self unaware that she brings on the hate herself. The I-am-in-desperate-need-of-male-attention fashion show would raise eyebrows and rub most people the wrong way. She is all about wanting people to think that she cares sooooo much. Asking Monte to pry for Nicole...Why can't she pray for Nicole herself? She just wanted to show everyone how caring she was. Going in to talk to Nicole in front of everyone was to show how caring she was not to actually comfort Nicole. She didn't even know what was wrong with Nicole and acting on her assumption is a huge social mistake. She could have told her that she would be there for her if she needed to talk and offer her a hug. To say that it is OK if you quit shows that maybe Taylor wants her to quit and also that Taylor thinks that Nicole needs her permission to quit. It doesn't take huge social skills to realize that this was the wrong thing to say in this moment. She is the queen of blubbering in public, playing the victim and making everyone feel sorry for her. After I watched her into video I told my whole family that she is going to have trouble making female friends. My guess is that she has been unable to learn from her social mistakes and is a social outcast in every aspect of her life. She is all about herself and her attempts to seem caring fall flat because they are fake. Fake. Fake. Fake.

I agree that this season's bachelors are not as hot as in previous seasons, but Jacob (the Fabio guy) is my favorite and running a close second was Jordan V. I really liked him. What is wrong with Rachel? Let him stick around for Gabby and maybe you, Rachel!

I have seen all 15 seasons. For me, over the years, Tim's personality grew to be comic relief with his predictable crankiness and overreactions. Tim was one of my favorite characters, maybe because I am a big fan of the actor who plays him. His interactions with Jack are some of my favorite! The only character I consistently dislike is Lou.

The difference between the Luke and the Susie situation... Luke was basically saying to Hannah that he wouldn't be able to be with her because he would think of her as a slut and that is not how he wants his future wife to behave. Also, I think he may have been bluffing to try to control her and didn't expect the reaction from Hannah that he got. Also, saying I love you wasn't an issue. Susie, on the other hand, was saying that if you are able to tell the other women you love them and sleep with them, then even if you love me the most, you don't love me enough.

"...if I had known that telling all three women I was in love with them and effing two of them and gaslighting one of them was frowned upon..." Clayton, if you think you are "in love" with all three of them, you really aren't in love with any of them.