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I agree. Coffee date is very casual and no expectations. 2nd date might be lunch or a dinner-date at a pizza place. FWIW, I met my husband on an online dating site when I was 49. We've been married for almost 14 years now. He's cooking me Valentine's Day dinner as I type! I did kiss a few toads before I met my prince. I went out with a guy 8 or 9 times. It was time to be more physical. Oh god, the hairy back - and that wasn't the worst of it. Let's just say he had his shortcomings. I've since nicknamed him "the nub". I hope you have a great night, ladies! (I blame the wine for my bluntness)

I didn't think April had a frozen face. She had prominent cheekbones, so think she had work done. Joan and Faith were ones with frozen faces.

Her name is April, not Amber. ETA - Whoops, didn't see it rolled to the next page with the correct name.

When my mother passed away in 2020, my husband and I cleaned out her house that she, and my step-father who predeceased her, had lived in for 55 years. It was very tidy anywhere a visitor would see. But the cabinets (and there were lots of cabinets!) were crammed full of stuff. Mom had a Costco membership (yes, even as a single person) and she was a child of the depression. So kitchen cabinets would have hundreds of empty Cool Whip and salsa containers and anything else that could be reused. There must have been 30-40 rolls of Aluminum foil, cases of Kleenex, both of which my husband and I are still using as I haven't bought any since her passing. Her bathroom cabinets were packed all the way to the front. When cleaning them out, I could tell when Oil of Olay was on sale. It was like rings of a tree - you'd find 4 bottles of it here, dig a little further and another 4 bottles. I think all up, there were over 20 bottles. She probably couldn't find the batch she previously purchased and just ended up buying more. Same with toothpaste, and mouthwash, and moisturizer, bandaids, Tylenol, and anything else you can think of. I thought I scored when I found a stash of Retin-A she had purchased on a trip to Mexico, but it was from the 1990's, thick, yellow, and smelly. I thought she was in great shape during COVID lockdown because she had so much in her pantry. It turned out most of it expired in the early 2000's, some in the late 1990's. Cans of tomatoes and pineapple had eaten through the cans and you can only imagine the mess that made. My husband joked that no one needs 100 boxes of Jello. Prior to her passing, I often heard her say, "Someone else can deal with it when I'm gone."

I don't know if Theresa could have "pulled off" either of those dresses, beautiful as they are. She is petite, but has a bit of a meno-pot. A simple satin dress like that will show every bump and bulge and Spanx can only do so much. The side gathering on the first picture would help hide it, but I think she would still be self-conscious (or maybe not). I also thinks she has nice legs and could have chosen an above-the-knee length dress with an empire waist. I got remarried in 2010 and got a champagne colored, above the knee dress at JCrew - they actually had a bridal department back then! It was perfection, and I am petite like Theresa. The dress she chose overwhelmed her and was too "first wedding" -ish. I'm okay with someone wanting to wear white on a 2nd wedding. But I think all the lace and tulle was a bit much. Her hair plus the veil closed in her face. It was just all kinds of wrong.

I wonder if Theresa picked the dress she would have chosen if she had more time to plan her first wedding.

I watched the season with my husband, as I thought he would enjoy it. And he did. I previewed the wedding episode, thank goodness, before having him waste his time on it. I am going to invite him to watch Bachelor Fantake's review of it. There was too much cringe on this episode. And too many faces I don't really care about anymore. My husband wouldn't know who 95% of these people were. I don't watch live, only on Hulu. I've found some sort of glitch on Hulu that works in my favor. If you watch a portion of a show (and sorry, I don't know how long), then pause it for half an hour or so and come back to it - you don't get any commercials! You can sense where the breaks are because there's a slight repeat of scenes.

Same link was posted on November 29 on page 32 of this thread. It's old news.

They met less than 4 months ago! Absolutely they need a prenup, to protect both of them. Also, consider that they are potentially protecting their heirs as well.

I'm 65. I've highlighted my dark brown hair for 25 years (growing up, I was a sandy blonde, but at age 20, it went dark). So I'm back to a somewhat sandy-blonde look now. During Covid, it grew out for 6 months without highlighting and I was surprised I didn't have many grays. I don't want to go to brown because I'm pale with grey-blue eyes and it just doesn't look right - I look like a ghost. And why oh WHY is it my eyebrows didn't go dark? I have invisibrows because they are so much like my skin color. I lighten the hair, darken the brows.

I watched a random YT video with a really good take on the FS situation. If a guy says to you, "I love you" and "You're the one", your response should be to ask if they are going to cancel the FS date with the other woman. I thought that was brilliant.

It used to be that the Bachelor or Bachelorette didn't say "I love you" to anyone until the FRC. I'm not sure if they weren't allowed to by contract, or if they just had the sense not to. Ben Higgins broke that rule when he said it both to JoJo ("You're allowed to say that?") and Lauren. Now it seems every lead finds themselves in love with two (wo)men. On the flip side, I think that was an issue in Katie Thurston's season. When she declared that she wouldn't tell anyone she loved them until she picked her final one. She and Greg got into a big argument about it and he stormed off. At least I think that was what the argument was about. ETA - Gary made it worse by telling Leslie that "you're the one". It made it seem like the "I love you" wasn't what mattered, but being "the one" did.

Access Hollywood had a nice interview with the two of them: Yes, it addresses the 'ex', but doesn't go very deep into it.

West-coaster here. So I'll say this and sign off until tomorrow so I won't be spoiled. But maybe, just maybe, Gerry wasn't critical of her weight, but something else and she inferred it to be her weight. Or maybe she was wearing something that because of the weight, didn't fit well.

Yes, me too! I have enjoyed the time shared with my husband watching this. Bummer!

I wonder if they'll address this on the After the Final Rose episode.

From 2010 to 2019, my husband and I travelled a lot. Like 2 international trips a year. COVID hit and that took its toll, plus an aging mother really didn't want 'us' to leave so long. I really have no interest in traveling because of craziness at airports and flights. Mom has passed away, COVID is less a factor. But I still am not anxious to travel like we used to. We are ~65 in age now.

It was the wedding shoot. The woman is Nancy. She was in near tears trying to do the shoot and Gerry picked up on it. She was upset because the last time she wore a wedding dress, it was when she married her, now-deceased, husband. Gerry fully understood and comforted her. And that was her walking off into the sunset with him. She stayed that Rose Ceremony, but they mutually agreed they didn't have as strong a connection as Gerry had with some of the other women and she went home before the next ceremony.

I think it's a wig. My husband is watching this with me and he thinks so too.

I turned it off after the first 45 minutes due to it being depressing to me.

I usually regret watching the Women Tell All episode. It's usually a b**chfest or a pile-on. This was neither and enjoyable. The women seemed to have made true friendships and supported one another. Even Kathy, came off reasonable. She owned up to how she handled herself, saying she's the one who should have "zipped it!" And wow, she certainly looked more rested than she did on the show. It was like her 15-year younger self on the WTA. If it was make-up, I need a tutorial!

I'm pretty sure they wrap up the cliff-hanger rose ceremony first. Then they go to the Women Tell All portion. Probably next week will be a longer episode to include the fantasy suites and the Final Rose Ceremony. I hope Gerry keeps it in his pants. How awful would it be to be intimate with him and then be sent home!

Yep, I migrated here from TWOP. I didn't watch Charity's season of the Bachelorette and am not watching BIP. I also have no interest in the upcoming Bachelor season. But if they do another Golden Bachelor(ette), I'll be here for that.

I'm also a bit surprised by the ages revealed on this thread. I'm 65 and had often thought I was one of the few "Boomers" to watch the franchise or follow this forum.

Um, I don't understand. I may not have had your point of view, but I did not live it either. I had a bad marriage, but with 2 children, in the 80's to early 2000's. I met my now husband in 2007, we married in 2010, and are happily married since. The times we have "fought" could be counted on one or two fingers. Should I be widowed by my now husband, I don't know if I would be on a show like this. I don't know what I would do, frankly.