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It's true though, that perfectly timed engagement likely gave him the edge over Nastia when the scores were so very close. All the casual voters who fall for that stuff likely gave him so many votes because of it.
I'll be forever pissed about his entire DWTS journey, it all just seemed like one long patronizing, vote getting nonsense, between Jamie surprising him Week 2 and the semis proposal, and the endless "you're so brave, here's a 9/10", it's prime example as to why I have issues with those types of contestants. At least Amy Purdy could dance.
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This is Halloween might be too niche.
Ghostbusters theme is a bit catchier and upbeat. Derek is unmatched in team dances for a reason and he has Mark, Lindsay, and Witney on his side to help.
I love Sharna but I find she often gets complimented on choreo when it's not horribly amazing. She's boasted about how amazing Nick is and how amazing their dances are but i've found their entire season so far underwhleming.
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There's a theory that has held up about every season, and that's how the eventual winner of each season dances last at least once during the first 4 weeks of their season:
1: Kelly Monaco- her season was only 6 weeks long but she did dance last 2 of the 6 weeks. (theory doesn't count here)
2: Drew Lachey- his season also short (8 weeks), but he danced last 3 of the 8 weeks. (theory doesn't count here)
3: Emmitt Smith- danced last Week 2.
4: Apolo Ohno: danced last Week 1
5: Helio Castroneves: danced last Week 4.
6: Kristi Yamaguchi: danced last Week 3.
7: Brooke Burke: danced last Week 3.
8: Shawn Johnson: danced last Week 4
9: Donny Osmond: danced last Week 2
10: Nicole Scherzinger: danced last Week 3
11: Jennifer Grey: danced last Week 5 (theory doesn't apply)
12: Hines Ward: danced last Week 2
13: JR Martinez: danced last Week 2 and Week 4
14: Donald Driver: danced last Week 3
15: Melissa Rycroft: danced last Week 8 (theory doesn't apply)
16: Kellie Pickler: danced last Week 2
17: Amber Riley: danced last Week 2
18: Meryl Davis: danced last Week 4
19: Alfonso Ribeiro: danced last Week 1 and Week 4
20: Rumer Willis: danced last Week 1
So out of 18 seasons of normal 10/11 weeks, the eventual winner danced last within the first 4 weeks 16 of the 18 normal week seasons. (88%)
If this theory holds true this season, the winner will be Nick, Bindi (Week 2a and 4), Tamar, or Hayes. If Bindi wins, she will be the only winner next to JR and Alfonso to get the pimp spot twice in the first 4 weeks.
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Looks like video views won't matter anymore. It seems like the official DWTS YouTube account has wiped out all the videos of the dances, even past seasons.
How sad! I don't know why they seem to always do this on YouTube. Do they not realize that's kind of the point of YouTube?
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I saw a lot of people saying that she was treated unfairly or brave for the snake and that she was underscored.
Hopefully that translates into votes, because she doesn't deserve to go yet.
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A fun fact here: the lowest placement anyone who got a perfect score was 8th place, Sabrina Bryan in All Stars and 7th place, also Sabrina Bryan in season 5.
Anyone else placed 6th or higher who recieved at least 1 perfect score, in regards to Alexa and Andy, who many think to be on the chopping block soon.
If either go home next week, they'll be like Sabrina, 8th place with a previous perfect score.
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Question: how was Bindi and Derek's number not a rhumba? IIRC, in the movie, Baby learns the rhumba in order to stand in for Penny, and chickens out on the lift. Then at the end , they start to do the same dance and it turns into the group dance with the flying lift. Wouldn't that still make it a rhumba rhythm dance?
I think it's that Rumba requires a slowly tempo and specific movements to be considered an actual Rumba. There was plenty of it in the beginning part with the slower tempo, but once the tempo picked up it was purely Mambo/Salsa as it did in the movie.
Derek actually said in his blog he didn't have much control on this dance, being told by the producers to keep it super close to the original, but I still think it should've been labeled as Salsa.
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The last time I hated a theme this much was maybe America Night in season 12. There was almost zero content in most of the ballroom dances and everything was just free for all Jazz. Len would’ve gotten so much use out of the 6 and 7 paddles. Times like these I miss him. Now that this week is done I’d like to quickly erase it from memory. Now, because my luck is just grand, just watch me lose a favorite (Alexa) next week because of this horrid theme.
A few thoughts on tonight's dances:
Andy/Allison: Ok, easily his best dance, no questions asked, but honestly a few times of the side by side it felt a hair off from Allison who basically goes balls to the wall in Jazz/Contemporary. Maybe this 40 was for the set, maybe it was “crap we need to keep Allison around for whatever reason”, or maybe the judges honestly have lost it. Then again these are the same judges that thought Noah Galloway was in the same league as Rumer, Nastia, or Riker. Also, why are you making a pregnant woman go up and down stairs and jump on a sofa?
Alexa/Mark: OK, let me just clarify that in the ballroom dances tonight, I think any lack of content is not by the pro’s choice, I honestly think, based on Derek’s blog, that TPTB were heavy on including as much original choreography as possible. She had Cha Cha steps in there performed them well, but I do agree that she could’ve been more grounded. But not in the way of the score she got. IF we lose Alexa next week, it’s honestly by the judges’ fault for that score.
Bindi/Derek: OK, this was a tricky one for me. I love Bindi and she’s my horse this season for a win, but aside from the beginning 30 seconds of Rumba, the rest was easily more along the lines of Salsa/Mambo. Based on that along, I had issue with the perfect score. If we threw out the style it was perfection, but I don’t know why TPTB decided this was an appropriate Rumba. They pulled off the lift though and nice to see Jennifer Grey.
Carlos/Witney: This was the most non-Rumba, Rumba I have ever seen. It was mostly stripping and grinding with a little bit of partnering. This was easily a result of Carlos’ already having Jazz in Week 3 and they couldn’t give it to him again. Len would have easily given this a 5 or 6, as would I have.
Overall, we can just put this theme in the vault of horrible ideas next to America Night in season 12, 80's night in season 13, "Hollywood" night in season 17, and last season's spring break special.
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He did it to Kendra too. She had skill and the body for it, but I think Louis got excited that season thinking they were the frontrunners and knowing Derek was absent that season. Then came their dances and he gave her stuff way past her comfort level.
This is why Derek (and even Mark) do well almost every season. They tailor make their routines for making their partners look as best as possible.
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I actually think Alexa fully deserved her score. She was so sharp and confident. I hope this gives her the boost in confidence when she goes back to Mark.
Bindi also did a very, very respectable Cha Cha. Very flirty and fun with some great turns and hip action.
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Val probably has known about Pure for awhile and that they've basically trashed him on every one of his seasons, most notably when he had Janel and Rumer. The hate was real and sometimes real crazy, pulling things out of nowhere.
He probably got tired of how it seemed like they attacked his character. Bindi posted a message on Instagram saying how much she likes Val and can't wait for Monday. Could be PR damage control, but Bindi doesn't seem like she plays into that.
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I've always wanted them to have a 2nd chance show, but with all the people that were kicked off first.
That, to me, would be incredibly boring watching a bunch of crappy people compete. The one thing about DWTS that works is the mix of good and bad ones. Too many good ones and it can get boring and predictable, but too many bad ones, and then what's the point.
I think a season of All Stars with just people who made say 6th-2nd place would be great. I can honestly think of so many. I think a great All Stars 2 cast would be:
(Included 2 winners because I think 1 or 2 is ok; 6 winners last All Stars was too much), Plus I think Kristi and J.R would be fun with different partners. At least if you bring back winners, don't give them their original partner)
Men:
1. Kyle Massey (season 11) *2nd
Lacey Schwimmer
2. J.R. Martinez (season 13) *1st
Emma Slater
3. Jacoby Jones (season 16) *3rd
Sharna Burgess
4. Lance Bass (season 7) *3rd
Anna Trebunskaya
5. James Maslow (season 18) *4th
Peta Murgatroyd
6. Ralph Macchio (season 12) *4th
Karina Smirnoff
Women:
1. Mel B (season 5) *2nd
Maks Chmerkovskiey
2. Kristi Yamaguchi (season 6) *1st
Sasha Farber
3. Stacy Keibler (season 2) *3rd
Tony Dovolani
4. Mya (season 9) *2nd
Derek Hough
5. Katherine Jenkins (season 14) *2nd
Mark Ballas
6. Zendaya (season 16) *2nd
Val Chmerkovskiey
7. Elizabeth Berkley (season 17) *6th
Artem Chigvintsev
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I always said do an All Star season but make it only good dancers that didn't win. Make it like a "second chance" type of thing.
I actually liked All Stars (count me in the likes the watch good dancing camp), but even I felt like they brought back too many winners.
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My issue with Nick's "Jazz" dance is that the whole feel of it (BSB song, crowd, dance style) felt more like it would've worked better as a freestyle and would've garnered him all 10's. It was just basic boy band/music video choreo that didn't feel horribly inventive and now if they try another BSB inspired dance for the freestyle, it'll seem repetitive.
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Nothing against him as a person, but does anyone else think he's getting the "hero" push in the scores? I felt he, like Noah (with or without his amputations) seems to be getting higher than normal scores. That Paso was so dead in the face. I understand why (lack of rehearsal, the Oregon shooting), but if the judges make a point to say we will judge the dance and not the backstory, then all 7's felt more approproate.
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I have a feeling the next 3 or 4 eliminations might be Paula, Andy, Carlos, and Hayes in any order.
Alexa would've easily got a 22-24 if later in the show. She's lucky next week there's no elimination and the scores are added because that could give her enough cushion for Paula and maybe Andy to stay.
If she lucks out and gets Derek, she could have a redemption.
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It felt weird without Tom, just confirming to met that he's the heart of this show and without, it loses that aspect.
Tamar finally showed a vulnerable and emotional side and I think she needed that to endear herself to voters.
Alexa's dance is a perfect example of a dance that would've scored higher if danced later. I didn't think the mistake was that noticable until they showed it like 10 more times. It's not her fault they didn't get a Ballroom dance until this week. I hope she's safe because she's one of the better dancers left and it'd be a shame if a night like this with inflated scores will be her undoing. I do think she took Alfonso's comment the wrong way.
Bindi was breathtaking. Had me from start to finish. Those that are saying it was laid on too thick and made a huge deal, need we remember how big of a deal they made the Carlton? Danced last on this same theme, teased the whole show, showered with 10's? I bet those same people loved the Carlton but will criticize about this tribute about her dad being so OTT.
Congrats to Allison, knew she was preggo, she's so tiny that any weight gain is noticeable, especially in those tiny outfits. Never a huge fan of her on this show so the aspect of her missing out on next season, doesn't bother me much.
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That's fair, and feelings like that don't have to be justified in any way, I think. But at the same time I also don't think it changes the whole "Mountain out of a Molehill" angle either. Even if every last person agreed he's tiresome and annoying, I don't think that's the same thing as saying there's any real damage from this. Grandma and Mom aren't going to stop tuning into the show, I'd bet, simply because the franchise was in bad straights for a week and dragged in a mugging ham to cover in an emergency. This will be forgotten about within weeks, I'm sure.
All I did was use family members who aren't social media savvy as an example of the "general audience" could be finding him tiresome as well.
Alfonso is a lightening rod of a personality, you hate or love him, and while I don't hate him, I find him endlessly annoying and loud. It'll be a good season when he doesn't pop up for some random reason.
Plenty of former alumni continue to support and tweet about the show, yet don't show up constantly. Maybe that's a note Alfonso can take.
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I get that they needed someone quick, but my point is that i'm just tired of Alfonso in any role on this show, whether it's contestant, judge, and now host.
I hope after this week, we don't see him again for a long time. In his mind that's probably the finale. Give us a chance to miss him. I don't think it's the just the Twitter and online-verse that feels like. Both my mom and grandma, both not into the "Twitter/message board" scene both have been on the "Really, he's back again?" side.
He has fans, no doubt but it's just a point of overexposure to some.
It seems like you're ignoring the people who were brought up that didn't just appear in the audience. Leah Remini and Drew Lachey have both come back to co-host. Kelly Monaco and Emmitt Smith have also come back and been on-screen several times. Kenny Mayne and Jerry Rice do Dance Center repeatedly. I could go on. If this emergency situation with Tom's family hadn't occurred I doubt Alfonso would have appeared again, maybe until the finale. It sucks for those that hate him, but you can just use your mute button.
Yes, those people came back at some point in time, but it's only been a year since Alfonso won and yet he's made THIS many appearances. All of those people above have made appearances here and then since their own season and it was never this many times.
It's not just that he won't go away, but that it's only been a year and it's just too much, too soon.
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It's kind of hilarious that some can't see why some are so over Alfonso. Comparing him coming back after his win to others who've appeared in the audience a few times is a far cry.
Dude has been in the audience before and after his season multiple times, came back to do however many dances (anniversary special, finale with Sadie), guest judged, and now guest hosted. Plus how he headlined the tour and even showed up during the second tour he wasn't headlining.
Dude really needs to back off. I get that it's hard to say no when asked, but there's thing concept called overexposure and he's dangerously over that line, at least for me.
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Put Erin in Tom's spot and have Leah do Erin's role. I could at least handle that.
I can't however handle yet ANOTHER episode of Alfonso mugging and being loud and trying to make as many "when I did the show..." references as possible.
He seems to think he's HBIC of DWTS alum and that what bugs me. He is kind of the Phantom of DWTS at this point.
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You might not have minded them, but other people did. And your analogy doesn't really work because Alfonso wasn't critiquing the pros who have studied for years and years, he was critiquing the celebrities who haven't been training their whole lives. He was giving his opinion, trying to help them out, and they can always take or leave what he has to say.
I've never heard that particular saying before. "Every single season" you're making it sound like it's been years and years since he won. I think this is only the second season since he won.
It's hard to miss someone when they never go away. That's the basis of it. I don't have enough fingers for the DWTS related things he's done since he won only a year ago and that's a bit overkill. The tour, the anniversary show, the guest judge, the dance with Sadie last season, going on GMA to talk about DWTS, etc. I know there's more i just can't seem to remember each time.
I thought Sabrina was the queen of unable to let DWTS go, but the crown was snatched when Alfonso began making DWTS his entire life basically. I mean good that it got him a career boost, but like it's time to move on.
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And I remember several comments when Redfoo and Jessie J were on with people talking about how unintelligent they sounded and how people wished they had done some research so they could make somewhat intelligent comments. It seemed like Alfonso took his experience from on the show and probably did some research to know some things to look for, instead of just giving trite comments like "That was really fun" or "You guys look good together" or "I just wasn't feeling it, dawg." He was asked to guest judge, which meant giving his opinion. It doesn't mean he thought he was an expert.
And, no, he can't back to an "apartment under the DWTS stage" because he has a show to host.
I didn't mind the other guest judges because they stayed in their lane and talked about what they knew. Alfonso could've been constructive without trying to bring up technical points. It's like if I trained in ice skating for my whole life and then some guy who's been doing only a few months tried telling me what I should be doing. It just seems condescending.
I know he's hosting AFV, but "going back to living under the stage" is a saying for when someone just can't seem to stay away from something. Almost in the same sense of when you graduate high school and you keep popping up on campus years after. I'm just tired of constantly seeing him pop up every single season since he's won and mugging all the time when the camera pans to him.
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I just always found him insufferable both tonight, during his season and every single time he's appeared on the show.
That's why it's hard to get excited about his guest judge stint because it seems like he's always there. It wasn't just him trying to make technique comments, but the constant referral to his season just make him seem like "look at me, look a me, remember when I won?"
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S21.E09: Halloween Week
in Dancing With The Stars
Thank god tonight actually had dance content again. I just wanna forget all about what happened last week, what a dumb theme. Here's some of my thoughts:
- Nick/Sharna (Argentine Tango): I feel like the song did it a disservice for 2 reasons: it’s been so overdone that it loses its appeal and that it’s suited more for a Paso, even with the rearrangement they made tonight. I think the theme overtook it a bit. It was a bit unmemorable for me and I would say it’s his weakest dance next to his Jive. I don’t think he’ll go home next week, but now I’m beginning to wonder if he’ll ever make the top 2.
- Hayes/Emma (Waltz): I’m not entirely surprised he went home. I think as good as he came off in the competition, he’s just too unknown with middle of the road dance ability. It happened to Cody and many others who have large social media followings which goes to show the general public opinion means so much. This dance was alright, he did kind of lead with his chin, but he had an easy ride of doing A LOT of ballroom and only 2 Latin routines.
- Alexa/Mark (Paso Doble): I was scared for her. Bottom of last week’s leaderboard, tied with Alek, and I was just not sure if she could hold weight against those guys, but she managed to stay over Hayes even being 2 points below. She obviously has some votes behind her. I’m glad she made a comeback, but she needs to be more consistent and hopefully next week she’ll come back even stronger and get some more 10’s. I loved this Paso; great theme and it still remained a recognizable Paso Doble. Loved that wig on her too.
- Tamar/Val (Foxtrot): Girl, why did you make that comment. I see from Twitter that she’s pissed about the editing, saying that they told everyone to say that. I get how that comes across and maybe she’s right, and that’s how TPTB is choosing to show her. It’s a shame because she is a great dancer and deserves to stay, but with her only 1 point ahead of Alek and tied with Nick, she could be a shocking elimination next week. I liked how they made a Foxtrot work with a Halloween theme and I did love how improved her hold was. They just seemed a little disconnected with hand holds and that such.
- Andy/Allison (Paso Doble): In my opinion, last week’s perfect score for a Jazz and every other dance not being up to par, shows Allison’s weakness in anything that isn’t Jazz/Contemporary. I appreciated the gusto he gave it, but it seemed like a little too over the top at times, and the content of the Paso was a bit lacking. It had recognizable moments, but it seemed a bit too Contemporary/Paso mixed for me.
- Bindi/Derek (Argentine Tango): Glad she got a perfect score for a proper dance this time around. See, this is the difference between Nick and Bindi’s Argentine Tangos. Derek still used the theme but made sure it was also a recognizable Argentine Tango too. Her legs were pure fire in this. I wasn’t keen on the hair they gave her, but man she pulled it off.
- Alek/Lindsay (Viennese Waltz): Was it just me or did the tempo of this song and the overall look of it feel like a Tango? Cause to me it felt and looked very Tango-ish not like a Viennese Waltz. Could just be for the song maybe. Alek still isn’t my favorite because I don’t feel much from him no matter what face he puts on. Also, Lindsay coming into the dance on that EVO was awesome, looked super creepy.
- Carlos/Witney (Paso Doble): It was a good dance for him, but I think the high scores came from the music and overall drama of it. Take the song out and remove some of the theatrics and it was a good Paso, but I’m not sure it was 28 worthy.
I don't know why they needed three in jeopardy for. Maybe it was originally 2 but suddenly put in Tamar for dramatic effect. Glad Alexa stayed, I'd rather see her back then a couple others. Not surprised as to Hayes leaving, I knew his general unknown-ness would come back to bite him eventually. Still funny to me that Bill Engvall was Emma's longest lasting partner.