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He's easily the worst dancer left.

We aren't getting rid of Nelly are we?

Whoa, whoa, whats with the name calling her that? Uncalled for. She earned that win despite the judges never giving her proper scores.

Question, did Hannah like kill your pet or something. You use the term pet often i've seen. She "Won" a show. Like are you mad? What did she do to piss you off in such a way? She's a good dancer, and she might win, making her already infinitely better than last season's winner

Why are people "scared" of Hannah winning? She's a good dancer thats often underscored and clearly the audience loves her to never hit the bottom 2. When Bobby Bones wins a season and Sean Spicer was 2 weeks away from making the finale, Hannah, a good dancer with a pro who's never won, winning is not awful for the show. Don't blame the other contestants for James going home. Blame the judges if you're unhappy. Hannah, Lauren, and Kel earned their spots from votes. Ally is a great dancer and from that perspective deserves to make the finale, but if you're in the bottom 3 times maybe its time. Clearly she's getting 4th place next week.

Unless Sean wins we will know he was always pulling the most votes every week, but I suspect he's getting maybe the 4th or 5th best votes and it's just enough to pass the ones that are merely a few points ahead of him in scores. Kate and Karamo could be the bottom 2 in votes and if Sean has the 5th highest votes, he's out of the bottom 2. Now that Karamo is gone, he was someone with a smaller fanbase, I wonder if it'll now lead to the likes of Ally or Kate hitting it again, or Sean finally slips in there. The judges NEED to get harsher in the scores. Literally give everyone left 9's and even some 10's and leave Sean with 6's or 7's and he'll finally at least be the second lowest total and they will send him home. Usually every season I always want my favorites to win. but after last season I'll just take someone that can dance, whether I like them or not. I've seen some people say they wouldn't want Lauren to win because of the Bobby connection, but she'd be a FAR better winner than Bobby and she's actually improving and getting good scores and coming off as likable.

My thing about All Stars, which I actually loved. There were journeys in a way, you had Kelly to come on and prove she deserved to win and could dance. You had Shawn coming on much older and more mature, etc. I think TPTB were all about a newbie winning it and not a previous champ. I think Gilles was their horse from the beginning. Notice how his scores and comments were glowing for the first few weeks, also he got the reigning pro champ. When he started acting douchey, and his votes probably slid, they decided to back Melissa. Notice the week he got some real criticism (country week) and Melissa started getting 10's and then the following week she won the marathon and got this momentum. In the semis, you had Melissa's momentum/TPTB help, the massive Shawn/Derek fanbase, and Kelly's rabid GH fanbase and the chemistry between her and Val, naturally Emmitt and Apolo stood no chance. In the finals, they gave Melissa a perfect 60, and supposedly told Shawn to reprise their rule breaking Quickstep. Rumor was Derek wanted to reprise their fusion he couldn't do when he was injured. So giving them their QS was a way to show viewers "hey look how they broke rules again". Overall, Shawn/Derek should've won All Stars, but I'm not mad that Melissa/Tony did. It gave him his only win, and Melissa while not the best dancer ever on DWTS, she held her own enough to be a good winner.

A lot of Helio's winning backlash (which seems minimal now) was for a few reasons. He was the 4th male in a row to win having Kelly only as the sole female winner by season 5, in a season with the likes of Mel B, Jennie Garth, and Sabrina Bryan. We as a audience assumed as charming as he was, he was destined for a 3rd place or runner up slot. As disappointing as Mel B's freestyle was we didn't know the true impact of the freestyle or the charming male vote, and we assumed with how good Mel was and how great her and Maks were together, most assumed from her multiple perfect scores and a woman not winning that she was going to win and she had a 2 point lead on him in the finals, and she lost. That's how it went down as a shocking victory because at the time we didn't realize the magnitude of the charming male vote, the vote for Julianne winning the previous season. Had that result of Helio beating Mel happened 10 seasons later and we would have predicted it, and not been as surprised by it. By with Bobby he was someone we all assumed would go far from his fanbase. I saw various predictions thinking he'd go out anywhere from 7th-4th place, but in most seasons when the odd man out made the finals (Bill Engvall, Drew Scott, David Ross, Bristol to name a few) they always got some form of 4th-2nd place. The shock of this comes down to that that "odd man out" finalist actually won. I blame many reasons. I blame the movement to get Sharna a win, I blame the fact that his fellow finalists didn't have that single strong backing like he did. The shippers got Alexis far, but the majority got tired of the showmance. Evanna and Milo had a strong backing of Disney and Potter fans, but a lot of casuals split their vote between those two. Add in the weird one night finale and weird last week votes mattering for the following week that we had, and it created the storm that was Bobby winning. I don't care how many more seasons there are, 28, 31, 35, he will probably always be regarded as the shows least talented winner.

It should go back to the ordinal judges score system they used in season 1,2 and what SCD still uses. With the scores in the ordinal system it would have changed the outcome. Assuming the finishing order was the exact layout of voting totals heres how it would've gone: Milo: 4+3= 7 Evanna: 4+2= 6 Alexis: 3+1= 4 Bobby: 1+4=5 So it would've been: Winner: Milo Runner up: Evanna 3rd place: Bobby 4th: Alexis

For next season, either don't cast any female stars, or only cast them. Cause this ridiculousness of how they will never win again and damn even Evanna with how great she was could only manage 3rd place.

I dont care how many more seasons this show goes, Bobby will remain the worst winner, so good for him? Sharna will have the loveliness of her only win (lets be honest) being such a gross hollow victory. It's like if Maks never won with Meryl and got his first win with Amber Rose

There's buzz on Twitter that Bobby had enough of the overall vote that the scores tonight wouldn't have mattered. That's scary.

No one probably wanted to. Poor Keo had that look on his face like "welp, guess i've never winning"

What a complete joke. He's the worst winner ever and will probably stay that way no matter how many more seasons are left. The look on the other's faces was priceless, it's like no one could believe what just happened. I think the lack of appropriate scoring for him helped him. Once he got that 30 and lessened the gap between he and the other 3 I had a bad feeling. Then to find out the top 2 were Milo and Bobby and Evanna couldn't even manage 2nd based on her journey and Keo never winning was disgusting, but with how quick the women went this season, not having any in the top 2 was fitting. I'm very close to decided never to watch again, only sliver of me is holding on because i've been a since season 1 fan, but thank god it's not back until the fall presumably because i'm gonna need a LONG time to get over this nonsense. I know Sharna got her win*, but she's gotta be thinking "couldn't with Nick, James, Charlie, Josh, or even Noah, but Bobby wins it for me?" *not really a win.

Kristyn Burtt said ABC Publicity told her this: 1. Bobby 2. Milo 3. Evanna 4. Alexis

How in the world does that mean she lost? Im confused

I almost hope Evanna wins and slightly redeems this season. Her growth arc dance and emotion wise has been astounding. Someone who is not a ringer dancing incredibly and seeing Keo get a win would be fantastic. She was spectacular tonight. Her Contemporary was chills inducing, so powerful and grounded. You could tell how much it meant to her and her Foxtrot was insane. I'm partial to "Rewrite the stars" so the music made it even better. The growth from week 1 to now is insane, she's so polished and grounded now. That would be a great winner, IMO. Milo would be a great runner up. 3/4 of the final 4 is right and in this insane season of terrible elims, It's shocking. I would replace Bobby with JP or Tinashe, but all in all the 3 aside from Bobby deserve to be in the final.

Bristol had some levels of dance ability, she was just annoying with an annoying family. Joe is bad, looks bored all the time, and has never improved. He's getting by on the regular guy being a non ringer vote.

Twice, Week 4 and tonight. That's it. I don't expect her to win cause she's a woman and we know women don't win anymore. But i'd love her to make the top 3.

Evanna was spectacular. Loved the emotion she had and her musicality. The light and shade and costuming was great. She's the dark horse and has been since the premiere. I would love for her to steal the win, but she won't so let's hope she can make the finals. Not shocked John left because he was the only guy in the original week 1 bottom 6, DeMarcus though was a bit shocking. NFL star with a super popular pro, yes he was plateauing but I thought he'd have the juice for top 6 at least. Note: DeMarcus and Tinashe had the highest week 1 score and both are gone before the semifinals. This'll be the first time the winner didn't get the highest or tie for the highest score week 1 since Meryl in season 18.

Evanna's Tango was the dance of the night. I wonder if both Evanna and Alexis go in next week's probable double elim. With the female star slaughter this season I wonder if something will be done next time to try to prevent that. Weaker male stars? Inviting back Mark or Derek or Maks? More relatable females stars? This has NEVER happened before where 5 women get cut before any of the men. I thought the female ringer slaughter of season 24 was bad but at least a few guys got cut in the first half of the season. It's unreal, and DeMarcus last week was the first guy in the "traditional" in jeopardy; not counting week 1's bottom 6. I get that the male pros aren't as strong or popular this season compared to the females, but 5 women in a row, insane, the voters really do hate female stars.

Of course they do a non-elimination the week after Tinashe, just freaking lovely. Alexis really did an amazing dance, so the score didn't seem overscored for me. Evanna's dance was odd because it was not anywhere near all 8's. I was expecting 9's. It was fun, and cute, and everything about the movie and packed with content. The throwdown seemed odd cause surely with Tinashe gone, they wanna have another talented female besides just Alexis? Maybe she's killing the votes and they need to frame some kind of growth or breakthrough arc with her soon. Who knows? DeMarcus has not at all lived up to his potential, I feel like he got a lot of pre-season hype for only two reasons 1) Lindsay, 2) NFL player, that's it cause he's so not at all what Rashad brought in his season. JP might be hurting for votes too, his Samba was good but not 30 in Week 3 good, and his dance positions have been fairly early in the show mostly. I'm seeing quite a bit of posting of people forgetting him or not connecting to him. Milo was better last week, the 10 from Bruno was ridiculous. If he was more well known, i'd say he was a shoe in to win, but I do wonder if no matter how he dances eventually the older crowd not knowing him much will do him in. With the female bloodbath this season, I would personally LOVE a shock Evanna win. She's just lovely and adorable and truly a great dancer.

I'm still shocked she did, but she had Derek and I'm starting to think Mark and Derek were the keys to women winning or making the finals, Val to a lesser extent. I wonder how Tinashe would've fared with a more seasoned pro even Alan or Val.

I'm disgusted. At this rate it'll be an all male top 6 and then they will be forced to get eliminated. I would lowkey love if Evanna somehow snatched a win in this god awful female hating season. None of the men have been put in jeopardy either, minus John the first week. I'm prepared for Alexis probably next week followed by Mary Lou and then Evanna. It's sucky how the women celebs get treated by the show and audience. If I was a female celeb approached to do the show, I'd say "hell no" Why would I sign up for a show knowing i have zero chance to win or even make the finals in DWTS' current state. It's a shell of it's former self with no balance to help the women who already come in with hate from the voters starting off.

The female ringers have a hard time because the audience does that dumb "they are arrogant/too good/too cocky" schtick the male ringers never get. I don't mind ringers the show would be boring without them, but I am getting very tired of the deck being stacked in the male celeb's favors. Part of the issue is the pro roster. We lost Derek and Mark, arguably the two best male pro choreographers, and Val was stuck with an early out. Brandon hasn't had the time to prove himself or build a fanbase. The women pros have all prior champions, and Sharna who has been in the semis/finals basically every season, so thats part of the recent success in the last few seasons of the male celebs.