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  1. It's telling that everyone takes it as a given that Amber can't/shouldn't have overnight custody of either of her kids for even one night a week, maybe not one night ever. She doesn't have a job or any other responsibilities, but no one expects or asks her to do anything, for herself or her kids. Yet, she, Gary, and Kristina act as if she's perfectly fine. It's insane that Gary felt like he had to do her basic shopping and errands for her (though he had family, household, and work responsibilities of his own). What married man with 3 kids (including Kristina's off-camera daughter), multiple rental properties to manage, a small farm, a few different small businesses, etc. has time to drive an hour away daily to help his ex with grocery shopping and wiping her ass (I guess)? Especially when said ex has plenty of money to get deliveries and/or hire people to help her. As well as the physical capability to do her own shopping and errands. Even if she doesn't want to/can't drive, she can afford an Uber or pay one of her relatives or friends to drive her around. It's just that she prefers to languish on her bed/couch in her house that she chose to rent an hour away from her kids (again, it's not like she had to be near her job or anything).
  2. Yeah, I can't stand Maci and she is fucking insufferable this season. I believe that she loves Bentley, but she is so fucking selfish and fake that she doesn't get how disgusting it is for her to 1) put Bentley's personal, sensitive issues on blast and 2) be fakely melodramatic about it all for the show. I think Taylor is low-key opposed to the phoniness for the show and tries not to directly participate. I thought it was weird in the scene with the call with Bentley's therapist when Maci "got so upset," but he didn't even pat her on the arm and was just kind of (awkwardly) like, "Why is this so hard for you?," setting Maci up for her heart-wrenching line about how she never wanted to hear "Bentley" and "neglect" in the same sentence. She probably made him rehearse it in advance and he felt weird about it. I've noticed that kind of thing with him other times. They are so utterly dysfunctional as parents and as a couple, despite their constant efforts to seem "together." They don't even know how to fake being functional adults. It's very sad, really. Hopefully, no reputable adoption service would let them adopt (though I guess Bethany might do them a favor in exchange for all C&T have done for them), but I imagine they could get a baby from one of their relatives/associates or a fan. But I think a big part of Ty's desire for a son is based in his wanting a male heir with his genes, so that might not work
  3. Ryan's Triggered! narrative is especially ridiculous because he claims to be triggered by stuff like people pressuring him to parent his child. And the "pressure" that Jen and Larry put on him was basically, "Hey, Ryan, why don't you come over to our house (from the house that we're paying for for you) and take a couple of hours off from shooting heroin to throw a ball around with Bentley or whatever else you'd like to do? Mom will even do your laundry and give you a casserole to take home and Dad will give you a cash tip! Come on, Ry, what do you say!" Larry and Jen are hardly ball busters and, even if they were, it wouldn't be reasonable or helpful for Ryan to blame them for his drug use. I guess there are rehab programs that tell the addicts whatever they want to hear in order to make money off of them and keep them from leaving the program. It makes sense that Ryan would only be open to going to that kind of place. Jen and Larry should go to Al Anon and/or private therapy for themselves. They're deeply flawed individuals/parents, but it's clear that they're terrified that Ryan will die or sever all ties with them (though, who would pay his bills then?) and I'm sure it's horrible for them to live that way and feel like they have to take on so much to "save" Ryan and their grandkids.
  4. I was mind-blown that Gary and Kristina wanted to have Amber move onto their property. WTF? Even if Amber weren't your baby mama/ex, you would never want her to move next door to you (essentially) and/or be her landlord. They know that she is crazy; that she has a volatile relationship with her (other) baby daddy that has resulted in the police being called more than once/her being put on probation (or whatever) for chasing him with a machete; that she has a history of physical abuse with her exes; that she doesn't have a real job or any plan to get one; that she attracts random fans/haters, as well as MTV and paparazzi cameras; etc., etc. Why would they want to bring all of that into their sweet, peaceful little farm life? G&K, but especially Gary, are very codependent with Amber and seem to cling to "supporting her for Leah's sake" as an absolute principle, no matter how toxic a presence Amber is in Leah's/their lives. Amber flipped out when she saw them criticizing her very mildly on the last episode and blasted them on SM, going so far as to accuse Gary of sexual harassment/inappropriateness. I actually think there may be some truth to her accusations (though it's unclear when it allegedly happened), but her response was super out of proportion and ill-advised. Gary posted something about finding it hard to co-parent with her, so, hopefully, he and Kristina have learned their lesson and get that having Amber involved in their lives to the point of her living with them is a super bad idea. It's also super horrifying how they are teaching Leah (and even Emilee) that Amber's behavior-- the physical and emotional abuse, the neglect of her kids, the volatility, the sloth, the refusal to get real help for her various mental illnesses-- are all ok/someone else's fault and that the appropriate/kind way to deal with someone like her is to endlessly enable her, even at the expense of others, even children.
  5. ITA. It's disgusting that Maci is using Bentley's issues with Ryan to make money on her reality show. Just gross on every level. Her story has centered on what assholes Ryan and his parents are for years now, I think in order to 1) create some interest while avoiding showcasing her own issues and drama and 2) to punish Ryan and the Edwardses. I believe that Maci is happy, or at least satisfied, with Taylor now, but she was Very Put Out for years that Ryan had no interest in being with her and even actively disliked her. I believe that she also resented Ryan for being a shitty dad, but it was obvious that her animus toward him went beyond that. Ryan is clearly and undoubtedly an asshole; he has been since before got into smack, but Maci is an asshole too. I think she's very stuck up and has been fawned over since even before MTV and that much more after MTV. So she felt like Ryan and his parents should worship the ground she walks on, especially since she was such a "great mom" doing it all "on her own." Instead, Ryan made it pretty clear that he could barely stand her, even when they were still together, and that his parents were forcing him to be with her. When she broke off their engagement and gave him some kind of ultimatum, he couldn't take her up on it fast enough and happily broke up without ever looking back. I think she hoped he'd realize how much he was losing and shape up as a fiance and dad, so it was a blow to her ego on top of everything else. I do think Larry's segment talking about Bentley and Ryan was edited weirdly, though I believe he is super codependent with Ryan and their whole family dynamic is fucked up. The "triggering" thing seems like major gaslighting to me. Years ago when Ryan went to rehab for one of the first times, Jen was crying about how Ryan's counselor or whoever had made them understand that he used because he was triggered and that they (I think Jen even took the majority of the blame) often triggered him. I agree that that is bullshit and that it seems like Ryan does nothing to help himself, he just blames his parents, Maci, and even his toddler for "making" him be an asshole. It seems that Ryan has forced his parents to accept his narrative that he did nothing to merit Maci and Taylor taking out the RO against him and that they completely fabricated the story. I remember that he insisted on that and blew up when they gently suggested that maybe he should take some responsibility for the incident a couple of years ago, but now they seem to at least pretend to believe that Maci, in another maneuver in her years-long campaign to make Ryan look bad, lied to the police and everyone else. Larry and Jen also seem to give credence to the idea that it's reasonable for Ryan to consider giving up on a relationship with Bentley because of how badly he has been and continues to be victimized by Maci. That was very disturbing to me, especially because Ryan seemed to be saying he wanted to go to therapy with Bentley so he could finally help Bentley understand "the truth." It seems like, rather than taking responsibility for his mistakes, Ryan has forced his immediate family to pretend that he's never done anything wrong. I wonder whether and to what extent he even admits to doing drugs at this point. IMO, he's clearly not sober, so I assume that, at minimum, he's doing pharmaceuticals. I could totally see his parents and Mac pretending like that's ok, but I wonder if they let him drive or leave him alone with the younger kids.
  6. What? Why did they have "Isaac's birthday celebration" without him? If he was at Jo's on the actual day, why didn't they wait until he was with them to have the cake, etc.? Is that a thing- "Here we are celebrating your birthday without you, even though you'll be here in a couple of days!" What?!
  7. Yeah, I've seen Chelsea be rude and snotty plenty of times. I'd kind of say more so in recent years than in the distant past. She's not rude to the MTV people and I think she and Cole have deeply instilled work ethics that compel them to be respectful to their employers (Unlike many of the other TM's, but I actually kind of admire that more than I disdain it because MTV/the producers suck and have exploited the TM's and their kids/families since the TM's were kids themselves. I think Farrah (for example) is fucked up, but I respect and understand her giving MTV her ass to kiss.) Chelsea's not as out-of-control psycho as Jenelle or Amber, so her rudeness isn't so egregious, but I've seen her be rude/impatient/bitchy to her family, Cole, and even her kids. To me, that's worse than being rude to the MTV people, actually. Yeah, Briana and her family admitted that they knew that Devoin pronounces his name the way it's spelled, but they choose to pronounce it "Devon" because they're-- rude and disrespectful(?) I have a "hard to pronounce" name (it's not really so hard) and it annoys me when people I've known for a while mispronounce it (I give people several chances and repeatedly explain how to pronounce my name if necessary (and my name isn't really "hard to pronounce," it's just unusual (to them))). If people I knew, even had a child with, admitted that they knew how to pronounce my name properly, but they just didn't want to, it would piss me off tremendously. Personally, I would make it really uncomfortable for them every. single. time. until they got the message. My point being, I can understand if Devoin has become increasingly annoyed/pissed off by just that over the years.
  8. This is what I kept thinking and why I couldn't work up any sympathy for Brianna as she sat there sobbing about how "unfair" it is that her baby daddies don't do more to help her. Of course useless Dr. Drew didn't say it, but the obvious advice an "expert" should be giving someone with Brianna's complaints is to get court-ordered child support. There is no point in arguing about how much she thinks Devoin should pay vs. how much he thinks he should pay. I'm sure she's too stupid to have looked into how these things work at all, so she probably has no idea, but that's on her. Her mom and sister, who seem to function as her primary advisors, don't seem to get it either. They keep making what they seem to think is a moral argument about a situation that is legal. Brianna could certainly at least pay an attorney to meet with her for an hour to explain things to her, but she seems to be set on thinking it's a clever strategy to keep her kids' dads' names off their birth certificates and unwilling/unable to see how it's not really working out for her. It seems unlikely/impossible that either baby daddy would try to get full or even 50/50 physical custody, which is what I thought she was trying to prevent, except now she seems to be trying to get Devoin to take Nova half the time anyway. So what's the point of not acknowledging Devoin (at least) as the legal father? If she did that, the court would set an amount for child support and would make him pay it regularly or face legal consequences. She probably still wouldn't be happy with the amount, but she wouldn't have to whine or beg or set up stupid meetings where she shows him receipts for bills he's not legally responsible for. She's just so stupid. She and her daughters aren't gaining anything by not acknowledging their dads legally; it only benefits the dads, who get to do or not do whatever they want because they have no legal obligations to their kids. I can't see either being willing to go to court to fight her on the schools their kids go to or what medical treatments they receive or anything like that. She can't really have someone else adopt the kids without the dads' consent since she's publicly acknowledged both of them as the fathers, on international TV no less, for years. I don't get what she sees as the upside to the "strategy" at this point.
  9. I've only watched the pilot episode so far, but it's interesting seeing it all knowing how things progressed (or didn't). Kail looks 20 years younger. Jenelle is (still) insufferable. Chelsea and Leah are dumbasses. The good old days!
  10. Yeah, I was really confused when Jade's mom kept saying that "we" went to school and worked at the same time. What kind of school did she ever go to? Did she mean that she worked (probably at her mom's restaurant) when she was in high school? What good is whatever school she went to if she has the same (low-level, low-paying) job 20+ years later?
  11. I knew Kail was lying about being 45 minutes from the nearest hospital, so I looked it up. ChristianaCare Middletown Emergency Department is 6.5 miles from her house, an 11-minute drive. I'm from DE and I kind of doubt that anyone in DE lives 45 minutes from the nearest hospital. It's possible that her OBGYN's hospital is 45 minutes away (giving her the benefit of the doubt), but she was hardly afraid Creed would die because they were so far from a hospital. And the thing is, it's fine to be concerned about being a 2-minute drive from the nearest hospital if your newborn isn't breathing, but the fact that she's lying makes me question the story about Creed being born not breathing altogether. This show is kind of the opposite of Supernanny, a primer on bad parenting.
  12. I think Brianna is trying to cultivate a "brand" of being an Awesome Single Mom who's "doing so much" for her kids while her baby daddies are irresponsible dickheads. That's an archetype that many people admire/support. Except she's so not an Awesome Single Mom. I'm not sure whether she should even be considered a "single mom" since it seems that she has lived and co-parented with her mom and sister since Nova was born. Apart from that, she doesn't seem to get that it's not "Awesome" parenting to throw a COVID spreader event for your child's birthday or to refuse to speak to your child's grandparents at that event and go outside to film a scene for your reality show whining about how much your baby daddy and his family suck. She claims to want them to be involved in Nova's life, but seems 100% unaware of how her behavior plays into that. She doesn't get credit for allowing/encouraging Nova to have a relationship with them while constantly trashing them in front of Nova, to anyone who will listen, and on her TV show. Devoin is obviously no great shakes as a dad, but he isn't legally obligated to do anything for or with Nova (by Brianna's design). The only reason he does anything for or with Nova (much less Stellla) is because he truly cares. And, again, Brianna is quite far from being an Awesome Mom. She is immature, reckless, and irresponsible. She has unprotected sex with strangers and went on a trip out of the country with a married man, whose identity she was keeping secret. I'm not trying to slut shame her, but that is straight-up irresponsible, reckless behavior. She doesn't think about how it would affect her daughters if she contracted HIV or was murdered. She doesn't even think about how it might affect her daughters for her to trash their dads in front of them all the time, have various boyfriends coming in and out of their lives, etc. But she really thinks/hopes people will watch the show and be like, "You go, Bri! You're a fierce mama doing it all on your own!" It was probably to accommodate MTV's shooting schedule. All true, but Kail will have more kids, quite possibly even with Chris. She's another one who thinks she's rocking out as a mom, but really she sucks. I was horrified to realize that Lincoln (at least) seems to have formed some attachment to Chris and to think of him as someone his mom loves who is somehow part of their family. Kail doesn't see her "relationship" with him as a toxic addiction she needs to figure out how to get over, she thinks they have some kind of complicated love story (or something). That's sad, but also scary for the kids. Where will Kail's sick obsession with him end? She's already uprooted them from living near their dads/schools/friends in a (futile) attempt to lure Chris in. That's not the end of the world, but it's clear that Kail wasn't thinking about their well-being when she made that huge decision. She was only thinking about finding some way to get Chris, whatever it took. She's physically assaulted Chris multiple times and he's allegedly assaulted her. The police have gotten involved multiple times. That's not headed to a good place. Apart from all of that, how does it affect the kids to have their mom literally tell them, "I love Chris and he's part of our family!," then a week later be like, "Chris is a narcissistic asshole and he's not Lux and Creed's dad anymore!" Over and over. Lincoln (at least) is so confused that he doesn't know whether Chris is his "stepdad" or not at any given time. Like, when Kail mentions family plans, he literally goes, "Is Chris going to be involved?" and Kail has to give him the hourly update of where their "relationship" stands. And she doesn't even realize that that's fucked up. She thinks it's fine because they live in a McMansion and go to private schools.
  13. Apparently, Cole's family chooses not to be involved with the show at all (good for them). I also think he would be a family boy, but I've seen situations where having a really demanding/controlling spouse (like Chelsea) is kind of a reaction/resistance to that dynamic, like the "family boy" can resist his parents/family by blaming it on his spouse (directly or indirectly). I could imagine Cole's family not liking Chelsea (because she's annoying, dumb, trashy, and demanding), but I could also see them liking her and appreciating that she makes Cole happy and has given them beautiful grandkids.
  14. Yeah. I think Cole is actually less intelligent and "sophisticated" than Randy. In terms of dealing with MTV/etc., I think Cole came around late enough in the game that Chelsea already had financial/legal advisors (in addition to Randy), so there was quite possibly less need/room for Cole to take on those roles. I assume that he's at least as involved as Chelsea in making those kinds of decisions, but I don't think he necessarily has the intellectual curiosity or other motivation to learn about that stuff as much as Randy did/does. The advisors probably present stuff to him and Chelsea as "We could do X, which would have these pros and cons, or we could do Y, which has these pros and cons" and they make a decision based on that without bothering to learn or think about it much more.
  15. Yeah, there was nothing worldly or sophisticated about Randy before MTV and very little afterward. In all fairness, at this point in his life, he has been to NY/LA several times and dealt with producers/etc. from a major cable network, as well as entertainment lawyers and other people in show business. I don't think he's a Hollywood mover and shaker by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm sure he's learned from all of that. There are huge cultural differences among dentists, lawyers, doctors, or any other professions. Some dentists attended multiple prestigious schools throughout their lives, speak several languages, have traveled extensively, etc. (and would never let their daughter be on a trashy reality show). Other dentists grew up in a trailer park (not saying Randy did), have no appreciation of "high-end culture," have never traveled more than 100 miles from where they were born, and would think it was cool to have their kid on a trashy reality show. Many/most dentists are somewhere in between. I don't think "high-end culture" is inherently superior, but it does have more social value than "lower-end cultures" in many contexts. Good/successful dentists have to continually educate themselves about developments in the field, work with other educated professionals, present themselves as knowledgeable and competent, etc., so all of that affects their "culture" as well. My point is that someone who's an "ignorant jack-off" would probably have a hard time graduating from dental school and an even harder time maintaining a successful dental practice for decades. At the same time, a successful dentist doesn't necessarily need to know a lot about the world beyond dentistry/their community. Personally, I would define "sophistication" as having broader and deeper knowledge and interests than the "average" person. I think Randy is probably more sophisticated than a lot of people he grew up with/his ex-wife/a lot of people in his current community and that attending college/dental school has contributed to that, but he wouldn't be considered "sophisticated" by "east coast elites" (for example). I doubt that he would consider himself "sophisticated" by those standards, or that he cares about that. At the same time, I think he was much more "sophisticated" than most of the TM parents in terms of understanding how to deal with MTV, how to manage the money he and Chelsea earned, where/how to seek help with those things if they needed it, etc. The producers could take most of the parents out to dinner at Applebees and blow their minds and get them to agree to whatever the producers wanted. I don't think Randy was in that position at all.
  16. I think she graduated from aesthetician school (or whatever it's called), which qualified her to do nails or eyebrows or something. I think it is a step down from "beauty school," which I think involves becoming qualified to do hair.
  17. Yes, much better to put Aubree's "imperfect" and "shameful" business on blast while protecting Cole and Chelsea!
  18. Jiggawhat? If she didn't want her segments to be about Aubree's personal life, why did she make them almost exclusively about Aubree's personal life? Is she suggesting that MTV demanded to delve into Aubree's relationship with her paternal family? Obviously, that's absurd. Even if the producers suggested it, Chelsea was fully able to just say no (like she did when they wanted to explore how her anxiety affects her as a wife/mom; what was up with Cole's employment situation; or any other issues that were about her/Cole). There was NOTHING negative/embarrassing about either of them or their mutual biokids, while there was a TON of ultra personal, potentially embarrassing, AND potentially damaging to her relationships with her family stuff about Aubree. They didn't do so much as a "Watson is having a hard time getting potty trained" or "Layne is going through a spitting phase" story about the De Boer kids, which is good and I don't assume that the toddlers have "problems," but no one is perfect and I'm sure they could have featured more about the De Boers than, "Look how cute the babies are! Isn't Cole perfect?! Chelsea is such an amazing mompreneur! Aubree hates her bio dad and his family!" At least the toddlers would be totally unaware if they were being humiliated on international TV weekly (not that that would make it ok). It's just so disgusting that they intentionally threw Aubree under the bus for money and they won't even take responsibility for it; they're acting like it just happened somehow. That's gaslighting the public, which I don't care about (though it shows how they suck), but, a million times worse, it's gaslighting Aubree. When (not if) she fully realizes what they did this season, are they going to try to sell it as something MTV did and which they quit in protest of? They both know that is an outright lie.
  19. Isn't the story that they eyefucked at a gas station without talking, then Cole reached out to her via SM? How would he do that if he didn't know who she was?
  20. To me, it's not even really about "ignoring the haters." It's good to "ignore the haters" if you're sticking to your own values rather than bending to others' opinions. If a single mom (just to make up a random hypothetical) were being judged by her "respectable" community because she chose to have a child without a partner, I think it would be good/admirable for her/her family to disregard community members who were judging her/them. The reason I judge the Houskas for their (IMO) trashy famewhoring is because I see it as a reflection of their values (or lack thereof). IMO, they don't have particularly high standards for themselves on almost any level. Most dentists (to pick a random, high-level occupation) who would be mortified to have their daughters on 16 and Pregnant would be upset because it was contrary to their own values, in addition to concerns about how people in their community would judge her/the family. At the same time, many "high-class" dentists wouldn't necessarily give credence to community members' judgment because their daughter married a man of a different race/religion (for example), which would be admirable. I don't think Randy ever had particularly high aspirations for Chelsea or a particularly high estimation of her capabilities. His "dream" for her was probably that she'd attend college for a couple of years or more and marry a nice, successful guy in her early 20's. He'd also probably have been fine with her killing time in beauty school or some respectable low-level job until she got married if that's how it worked out. I think he was probably disappointed that Chelsea got pregnant by a loser in high school, but he never seemed crushed, like he had had dreams of her joining his dental practice or getting on the Supreme Court some day. Or even dreams of her being a kindergarten teacher, really. Or even a manager at the local supermarket. I think having those kinds of hopes/aspirations for one's child is part of taking it seriously when the child takes the path of being on 16 and Pregnant instead. Since Randy never expected much of Chelsea, he saw the show as a potential opportunity (for her and for him). Even though the starting salary for TM2 was low, it was ok/good money for someone with Chelsea's earning power with additional income for Randy to help cover the cost of subsidizing Chelsea/Aubree. Randy wasn't worried about how the show might negatively affect Chelsea's future career because her "future career" was (at best) being an aesthetician married to a guy who worked for the department of transportation. To me, that's kind of sad and showing a certain level of lack of respect for oneself/one's child, but that's me. I think, in Randy's world, he's an outlier who was unusually smart and ambitious to become a dentist, but it's normal to be far less smart and ambitious and only aspire to get whatever kind of steady job and earn enough to buy a (relatively cheap) house, get married, and have a couple of kids (if you're a man), or to marry someone like that and maybe somehow supplement the family income (if you're a woman).
  21. Yeah, I think it's fair to assume that Randy heartily approved of/encouraged Chelsea to do the show. He himself has been featured on the show every chance he got for the whole time. I believe that he said he saw a bump in his dental practice once he was on the show, which makes sense. In addition to that, he seems to be a bit of a ham and an outgoing guy. In the beginning, he was getting emails or whatever from random people saying they thought he was a great dad and a real hoot and had new patients coming in saying they had seen him on the show. So I can see how he got sucked in (not that I don't think it's gross and tacky). As the SM aspects of the "job" picked up, he was seeing increased opportunities to make money/get attention and he went with it, sometimes wallowing in the mud with random "haters" just to stay in the game/get attention. At this point, I think the whole experience has probably changed him into a tackier guy than he would have been without the show, but he always had the tendencies.
  22. I questioned whether either of them was even sick. Their "storyline" for two episodes has been "OMG, I might have COVID! Come watch me take a test! Phew, test came back negative, but what a scare!" This after the riveting multiple-episode arc of "Aubree is getting a cellphone!" It's so past time for them to leave the show.
  23. I agree with all of this, but, also, Randy has always been pretty permissive, even when Chelsea was a teen mom and he was supporting her. He spent years haranguing her about getting her GED, but never gave her any real consequences for failing to do so. So even if he disapproves of her talking about Cole coming inside her publicly, I don't think she would really care and, at this point, I could see him not even bothering to express his disapproval about such things to Chelsea. And I don't think either of them worries too much about their public reputations. They come from what I assume is a fairly socially conservative community, but they don't seem particularly religious and they don't really rely on the general public to earn a living. I believe that Randy's dental practice grew as a result of his exposure on TM2. People who are turned off by the famewhoring and generally tacky behavior probably wouldn't be going to him anyway. I imagine that very few, if any, of his patients who were otherwise happy with him would get a new dentist because of something trashy Chelsea posted online. Chelsea makes a living off of her public reputation to some extent, but her audience is much broader and she seems to think they like stuff like that. Again, I think a small number of people might unfollow her on IG or whatever, but people who were deeply offended, or even just annoyed, by such things probably wouldn't be following her anyway and certainly wouldn't be stans who buy all of her merchandise or whatever.
  24. I think several different dynamics are at play. For one thing, I think that many people in Randy/Chelsea's social circle would be kind of shocked/turned off/whatever at a grown woman with three kids posting about her husband coming inside her. They probably won't shun Chelsea or her family publicly, but they will gossip and judge. I don't think that gossip and judgment necessarily matters to Chelsea in a material way because she probably has more money than most of those people, certainly has more fame/social clout associated with fame, and isn't dependent on them for job/social opportunities. The daughter of dentist who's married to an accountant/lawyer (or who holds those professions herself) who hopes to get some of her/her dad's social/professional contacts as clients is in a very different situation. Beyond the practical considerations, I think it depends a lot on what kind of communities dentists (for example) and their kids live in to determine what's considered socially controversial, embarrassing, or "bad." I don't get the sense that most of Randy's friends/family would be shocked or scandalized at his kid not graduating from college or having a child/getting married at a young age. I assume they'd be more impressed if a kid graduated from law school or whatever, but I don't think Randy's/Chelsea's community necessarily saw young people who didn't attend/graduate from college as "losers." In contrast, many dentists (for example) live in communities where young people who don't attend/graduate from college (at least) are considered "losers." I think even really dumb kids in communities like that are more likely to attend/graduate from college, just because it's more expected and more of a "requirement" to merit marrying/getting respect from higher-achieving members of those communities. Especially if they were able to get married, I doubt that Randy felt like he was often put in the hot seat to explain/excuse his daughters' life/procreation choices. It's not like anyone who knew Chelsea (for example) would be like, "Chelsea is so bright. She was the top student in biology in 10th grade. What happened?" I don't think anyone ever expected much from Chelsea in terms of academic or professional achievements. If she had gone to some shitty college and dropped out senior year to marry Cole, I think most of the people who knew her would think she was doing really well for herself. (And they'd pretty much be right.)
  25. I get that, but Brianna and Jade's salaries have to be in the high five-figures range at least. I respect them for continuing to work regular jobs, but it's certain that their MTV salaries are significantly higher than what they make from their "real" jobs. I think MTV told them to talk about how their income was hurt because of COVID for storyline reasons and I believe that they miss that money, but I don't think they were hurting/worried the way people who didn't have close to/over $100K coming in were.
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