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  1. You are not the only one. I'm having problems remembering which one happened and where myself. For the life of me I cannot remember where did Osha say she'll take Rickon in the show? And did Robb ever name Jon in his testament? And many other small things like that.
  2. I agree. It is a smart decision to show the White Walkers in their environment even though I could not figure it out where that was besides very far up North. Plus I was ecstatic they showed what happens with the Carster baby boys! I mean ever since Gilly (or some of the wives, cannot remember right now exactly) tells Sam that the Others are the boy's brothers and they coming to take him in the book there was a huge amount of talk that the Others really don't kill the boys but transform them somehow. But since it was said by Carster's wives and not written in a direct scene that was considered only a high probability. This is a confirmation I wanted. Because let's face it unless you have Martin writing an Other (White Walker) POV that's not going to be in the books, in my opinion. I did wonder what was with the difference in the way the WW looked (the horse vs the one transforming the baby) but I read here it was the Night's King. Too bad they don't talk... I liked the ep though I could have done with less horrors at Caster's. That was really overdoing it if you ask me. @Mya Stone: I think it was strange to keep the truth from Jon Snow in the books. So changing that storyline to Sam revealing to Lord Snow that his brother was alive makes a lot more sense to me. Also fits with the changes form the books they have been making.
  3. Hilarious! That application is insanely hilarious! Did I mention it is HILARIOUS?! LOL That's three times "hilarious", like Martin likes to do it :P Thank you for the find, Angie! I haven't laughed so hard this week at anything GoT, what with the Cersei/Jaime scene that flamed the net and lunch conversations...
  4. I thought Petyr has some Braavosi in his blood myself, but was not entirely sure. Memory is not what is used to be LOL To the quote all the way at the bottom (sorry, not sure why it won't let me write after I quote you): I think you might of misunderstood me. Or maybe not. I'm not sure, but just to be clear, here's what I meant. I don't think Petyr stole from the Iron Bank ad litteram. I do believe that it is entirely possible he did help himself to some of the money that the Crown borrowed from that bank though, monies which once loaned became the Crown's liability. I'd find that very in character with his persona. Why? Because it would leave the unknowing Baratheons/ Lannisters in the Bank's debt, looking like fools for overspending and unable to repay through investing (which it DID happen), and would cause a huge amount of trouble especially if he was savvy enough to do it and erase all traces. As far as I can remember the loans and the dealings with the Braavosi were left to him unchecked in Robert's time. There was not Tywin to contend or answer to as Hand. (And look what he did to John Arryn!)
  5. An amazing coincidence! I thought the whole Westeros society rules vs modern society ones exactly like you today. I was trying to explain to a friend that it is not necessarily that one cannot divorce herself/ himself from today's rules and standards which ARE different, it is the fact that the concept of right/good and wrong/bad is known even if bad or evil is accepted throughout history, and that forced sexual encounter (which we label today rape) is very much about power over the other and violating their body, getting something the rapists wants against the other ones' wishes or desires. That was never a "modern legal construct" (to use exactly your words). We were talking about beating women. Robert hits Cersei, Aegon beats his wife. Common occurrence. Marital abuse, marital forced sexed (I won't say rape so it won't sound too modern though that is what I mean LOL): these are known to be wrong even in Westeros. I'm just giving the background on the discussion. And this is the end of my off topic.
  6. Oh, this is good! THIS IS WHERE EVERYTHING IS AT!!! Everyone knows in any universe to not mess with the Bank. #ItIsKnown! Except for book!Cersei or show!Tywin apparently LOL And that is the end of my fangirling over a subject I like. On a more serious note: It will be a huge dent in the Crown's power that the Iron Bank redraws their support. We have just scratched the surface in the books IMO. All those Lannister moneys are peanuts to the wealth of the Braavosi bankers. That's my theory and I agree with the posters above. I mean Tycho just negotiated with Jon Snow his boats away to get to Stannis plus a large chunk of money. Which means they are decided, and they can afford to switch allegiances in hopes of getting their loans repaid from whoever sits the Iron Throne at the end. More importantly they can and are willing to risk it, instead of waiting for Cersei's trial consequences and the new regime's stand on the loans (assuming they know of all the dealings in KL, which I am positive they do). Oh, and they just bet on a pretender who had nothing but a snowed in army frozen to death, at that point in the books! Stannis situation was not exactly rainbows and unicorns... I'd like to point out how exciting I found the idea that finally in the last 2 books and now in the show, we get more into the two powers that shape a society such as Westeros: religion and finance. Yes, the two were ALWAYS there, but suddenly they come front and center against the monarchy. Martin puts these two against the rulers of the time. This IS the game of thrones. You've got your religious crusading, with septons having the power of judging the ruler, then you get the banking system in, who makes or breaks a regime! Who cares about Dragons?!?! haha I'm just kidding. Note regarding Petyr: I would be seriously shocked if he does not have some agreement with the Braavosi bankers. The man might embezzle from the Crown, no doubt but he is not guilty of stupidity. He knows where the power comes from, especially if he was skimming funds that came from the Iron Bank. Or maybe he just thinks he's smarter and quicker then them.
  7. I did try to reconcile the Iron Bank arc with what Mel strongly suggested last season. I thought that they tried to emphasize with the Stannis & Davos discussion about the lack of funds that they cannot really do anything at all (no army, no houses, less than 100 soldiers between all of them): whether going to the Wall or try to retake Kings' Landing or whatever else he could possibly think. And the other thing I took away from the whole Dragonstone team interaction is that this news of Joff's death made Stannis reassess his actions. Not that Joff's death would make Tommen less than a foe should he sit the Iron Throne. Honestly, that's the best I could come up with. Gave it a shot.
  8. Thank you! I do too :) So excited to see the rest of the season when it comes to them. For me they provide the flavor and the spice. Kind of like their food really.
  9. I am actually wondering what WAS the point of it. I thought Jaime is supposed to be redeeming himself from throwing a child out of the window. How black you want him to be?! That was a bad change IMO. OK, I liked the Show!Davos change from the book. Him and Stannis as well as his relationship with Shireen. Giving him an Iron Bank arc for financing, seems a good idea. I also loved the Tywin & Oberyn exchange. The fact that Tywin recognizes Dorne as a power to be wary of is huge IMO. Through him one learns without heavy exposition about Oberyn's training at the Citadel, about how the Targs could not conquer Dorne even with dragons on their side. They portray the Martells very well through limited screen time, if you ask me. That's a good change for me.
  10. Thanks GreyBunny for taking the time to post them! I could not for the life of me remember any other description of the Daynes. Frankly of Darkstar, besides his charging at Myrcella and slicing off her ear, all I could remember was his "I am of the night" line. And I completely wrote him off as being a Dayne! LOL
  11. Ooops! You speak of Daynes (plural), but I cannot recall Ser Arthur Dayne being described with purple eyes or silver hair. And Edric Dayne either. Which are the only Daynes that were mentioned/ appeared besides Lady Ashara in the 5 books so far. Am I missing something? The only reason I ask is because I definitely saw it as you, Ashara was given the purple eyes and blond silver hair in Ser Barristan's memories from ADwD, exactly for Jon's parentage red herring. Which is only emphasized in my opinion, if she was the only Dayne to have that coloring. If the whole House had it, well I would not make so much out of it and I'd still hold out hope to have Jon as Ned and Ashara's son. LOL I know, I am an odd bird, but I really want Jon to be Ned's son. I think for Jon it would be hard to take the news that he's only his nephew, and suffered Cat's wrath for so long for something that could have easily been clarified in a small secret family council.
  12. I very much agree with you but with one small exception. Let me explain myself: I have no idea how the dynamic between the two would change so drastically as we've seen in the books without introducing the Tysha story (from love and brotherly affection to hate and resentment). The only possible way Jaime and Tyrion would have such a fall out is for Tysha's story to become somehow consolidated with the show!Shae story. Which would require Jamie to somehow do harm to her or conceal someone doing harm to Shae. I wonder if this be also the reason Bronn with his big mouth stayed around to spar with the new LC of the KG? or is it just the sparring... I mean if Bronn somehow told Jaime about Tyrion trying to sneak off Shae to someplace safe, which in turn told Tywin/Cersei?! Could THAT work?
  13. I consider ImpSlap the best corrective action one can deliver to someone like Joff other than outright imprisonment or worse! It's just so appropriately wicked. So I approve of the title.
  14. Thank you for the welcome :) About Westeros: I used to, some years ago. Then I took a long sabbatical from all things ASoIaF. But no, I no longer go there. I do read WiC since HBO started the big promotion campaign about S4 back in Feb. They have some incredible blog. But it obviously lacks the forum quality.
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