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Am I crazy or were Russ, Gavin and Lawyer-Ginsberg all wearing identical black beaded bracelets on their right wrists? If I'm not crazy, anyone know the signficance? Also, my unhealthy nerd crush on Gilfoyle grows exponentially.

I am admittedly not quite hip enough (and seemingly will never be) to understand the appeal of the grosser John Waters stuff, so that was uncomfortable to watch, and ergo most of an episode was lost on me. I suppose "uncomfortable" is the whole point, but ... whatever, call me squeamish, I guess. Or what was Pearl's quote? Call me young, call me illiterate. On topic: The dance numbers were good and I actually liked the combo outfits. I absolutely loved Katya and Violet's dance and runway.

I love Ross (I know this is divisive but I fell in love with his crew and their podcast), and the man thinks VERY fast on his feet, so I'm sorry I didn't get to see him pull off more little bon mots. I liked most of what Katya did. (I'm struggling here, I want to respect the thread topic.) I guess the conjoined queens challenge was cute. The Shakespeare one could have been fun in the hands of the S6 queens. Violet actually slayed me with a few looks. I tried!

Yeah, I knew this season was going to be really, really bad when some people (elsewhere) were trying to tell me that Pearl had done something magical during her lip sync of Dreaming early in the season. She literally stood there windmilling her arms like I do before I do my bench presses.

Just want to make sure that any of you who also watch Game of Thrones watch the Gay of Thrones recaps: http://www.funnyordie.com/topic/gay-of-thrones Latrice Royale got a shoutout this week.

I'm just cynical enough to believe that they chose to throw in another non-book rape because last season's non-book rape got them so much media coverage. As much as dissecting every single show and adding up its social justice scores has turned into a really exhausting way to watch and discuss TV, I'm getting equally exhausted with rape/torture porn for its own sake (see: Outlander). I think some of these showrunners need to take a step away from premium cable and calm down a little.

Only speaking for myself, but my issues aren't with the fake science stuff or the writers not having a handle on their time travel canon. It's that they're screwing up the story DNA and the way the Hero's Journey works by having Barry be an ineffectual and arguably selfish dork. They throw in a lot of emotional beats that sometimes hit because the actors are pretty good (except for Robbie Amell, #sorrynotsorry), but those beats are mostly smoke and mirrors and Grant being a good crier. The underlying emotional logic/story journey is kind of busted and I think people are responding to that more so than "why didn't Eddie just get a vasectomy".

Kind of makes you realize what a hot mess this reunion show will be.

Fortunately we've got folks here willing to take the hit for us. This is the first season since I started watching (in S2) that I've actually skipped episodes, such as this week's.

And now you've just made me miss Joslyn Fox.

Sorry, I missed this particular drama but stand by my original post. I get that folks in this thread tend to be staunch defenders of the source material, but I'm also an avid viewer of scripted drama and I believe that a tv show *has* to be able to stand on its own. Whether or not Outlander is doing so is worthy of discussion, and I'm sorry that it's causing infighting. The posting rules in this case seem slightly Byzantine, but I haven't posted in the non book thread even though I really haven't read "the books"; I promise the only dog I have in this fight is "is Outlander a good tv show", and right now I tend to side with the non-bookers that the Wentworth stuff was overkill and felt like torture porn for the sake of torture porn. (I didn't like it any better when it was Theon Grayjoy, FWIW, and good acting or historical realism doesn't make it not torture porn.) (I know my posts are not going to be popular and I expect a bunch of "quoted" notifications, and that's fine. It's possible RDM will pull it out and win some people back next week.)

A page or two late, but I'm a sort of non book reader (made it 25% through book 1, gave up, read Wikipedia summaries instead), just wanted to defend the unsullied. It's not their fault--lots of people watch TV shows with a reasonable expectation of being able to enjoy it even if they haven't read the source material. That's the entire reason the word "unsullied" is part of the greater fandom lexicon now. Once I read the Wikipedia summaries, I think I posted something in the book talk thread wondering if audiences were going to make the jump from the kind of show this appeared to be in the first few episodes to the (very different) show it will apparently have to become instead. I think we reached the first part of that cliff with this episode (and as someone who has watched every single hyper-violent show mentioned in both threads, I honestly think RDM just used too heavy a hand and is not yet used to the premium cable space--the balance is off, or else so many people like me wouldn't be hitting the FF button repeatedly). Anyway, if audiences thought they were getting one kind of show and are getting something else, there's little point in blaming them for their confusion. There's also no point in blaming them for assuming Jamie's emotional fallout will be treated one way or another, because we have no idea how *RDM will actually handle it*. Some of the posts have bordered on mocking non-book-readers for their ignorance, which just doesn't seem fair. They are reacting to the product they are receiving, the same way unsullied GoT viewers do.

Thanks for taking one for the team. Pearl was meh and didn't get eliminated, you say? Must be Monday.

Not in a good place to dig up the link, but there's a fascinating book called A History of English Food that includes lots of Tudor era food trivia. Despite reading lots of history and historical fiction, it took this book to make me understand that a trencher is really sort of a plate made of bread to eat food from, and the bread itself isn't necessarily eaten. I had been picturing sort of an open-faced sandwich, I think.

I'm happy to see this thread since we have several of us who like to hold forth on the subject, but I am beyond confused about when we're supposed to use spoiler tags. I would assume anyone who came in here was prepared to learn some history.

I'm linking it in my head to the Mimi Imfurst shenanigans, but I can't remember if she left the stage or just acted like an insane person. Either way I believe the rule was season 4 and beyond. I guess this season they need to throw 'rules' to the wind in search of anything interesting to show.

I don't think I've ever participated in this show's forum, but I came around tonight to see what people thought of Dichen Lachmann as the season's big bad. Unfortunately the dress is white and gold to me; I didn't mind her much in Dollhouse, but since then she's sucked the life out of every scene I've seen her in in Being Human, The 100 and now this. By this point I was past being annoyed and genuinely curious about how she keeps getting cast in these reasonably big roles with her totally flat affect. I guess there's something there I'm not seeing. (As an aside, is she pregnant? Her face seemed fuller.) Don't have much more to add--I've never been completely able to pay attention to this show, but they got me several times tonight, including the final scene.

Meanwhile, the fact that he had their marriage declared invalid meant that Anne couldn't have committed adultery against him in the first place ... since they weren't married. The crazy never ends.

He hasn't for a while. Raw vegan diet or something.

Tried to watch. This season they managed to make the puppet challenge unfunny. How does that even happen? The puppet challenge is never not funny. Gave up.

It's in the jaw! I'm uncertain enough (because of that jawline) that I tried vaguely to google but I came up empty.Edit: no mention of a stripper on imdb's cast page for the episode.

It was the angel wings, and also a big Christmas star ornament, which I think pins Mark to the wall in the books?

Hah! RuPaul's Drag Race alumni Chad Michaels had a cameo as Cher at the Vegas wedding. I was stupidly excited by this.

Hah, I'm pretty sure Chad had a cameo in this week's episode of Jane the Virgin. Or it was another Cher impersonator, but I doubt it. Edit: yep, it was Chad.

Just for comparison, here's Natalie Dormer's version: EDIT: Sorry, there is some overdubbing in another language on this I think, and I'm about to head out. I'll try to find a better link later. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6-ThCEeTJU