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Wow, what a tragic story. A beautiful young girl murdered by a jealous sociopath. Unfortunately, not an uncommon story, but the twist here was that the murder was filmed and put on social media. One of the things that I, as a sixty-something, find so headshaking is social media and these troubled young people. At one time, Bianca would have probably lost herself in books and poetry and maybe joined one of the High School clubs that other sensitive kids gravitated to. Now, these kids get on social media and put themselves out there and attract thousands of mal-adjusted weirdos. Back in the 70s and 80s, "snuff" films supposedly existed, but people into that kind of horror had to know somebody who knew somebody in very low places and hunt it down but now, wtf, you can see a teenaged girl murdered on all sorts of click of the button social media!!!! And IT'S LEGAL! And what does that say about us as a culture and society? And the on-going pain of Bianca's family who get subjected to horrible trolls who can reach them through the internet. The authorities need to get into this century and make internet trolling, threats, and stalking into criminal offenses with some teeth behind it.

I'll keep watching this because I like murder mysteries but seems like a lower rent Mare of Easttown. The town where this is set makes Easttown look like East Hampton. I can't put my finger on it, but something is kind of lacking with this show compared with the other one. It has some great talent involved but it is just cliched grim.

I personally know of two murders (both of women) where that was the case. The police knew who did it but didn't have enough evidence to bring it to trial. In one of the cases, the killer actually mocked the police every time they showed up at his door. This was back in the mid 80s. Not all the cameras that are around today. I'm really hoping that somebody remembers that green curtain the police think that poor child had been wrapped in. I'm still wondering how the killer got info on the children he targeted like knowing where their mothers worked, mothers bosses names, etc. Many of those small towns had local newspapers then and maybe some of the info would be in the paper.

If you're referring to Dockers and the young male cop, I don't think she is really cold and heartless but the way they are presenting the way the two of them relate to each other is uneasy to watch. It seems to have taken the Chief Detective (still don't know her name) to see an interaction between the two of them and mention "transfer" to set up the latest thing of where she makes a date with the guy and then stands him up but sends an attractive friend to take her place. Why did she do this rather than the adult way of dealing with it which would be to have a conversation with him and tell him that she is caretaking her father who has dementia and really has no time to be involved in a relationship and doesn't just want to use the guy for easy sex (or whatever it is). And the way the young cop is being portrayed, you can see why she had to hit him over the head by standing him up because he also doesn't seem to want to take "no" for an answer. It's all so middle school, but I did like the case of the week. Even Mother was portrayed as somebody human this week.

The "no" meaning "maybe" got even worse on episode 4. She's telling him no and then winds up in a passionate kiss with him. It reminded me of the old joke where the "wolf" is sexually going after a woman and she says, " No! Don't! Stop! then "No Don't! Stop" until finally "No, don't stop!". I guess that the people who write this show are tone deaf to the "Me Too" thing. The actual crime seemed to have more time devoted to it than usual, which was a plus. The relationship between Prof T and his mother is beyond bad. He actually shows up to the gallery show but leaves before his mother can see him and then he buys up all the paintings to keep them locked up in a room. Just weird and ick.

So far, I've watched 3 episodes of this show and I'm just not feelin' it. When I see the Professor himself, and how he is being played, it makes me think of how well Jonny Lee Miller and Bernard Cumberbatch both played their version of Sherlock Holmes. Both versions were prickly and eccentric but the actors made them so human. Ben Miller seems out of his element here. And the supporting cast of characters! I'm beginning to wish that overbearing mother would get hit by a bus, and the young cop with his constant pestering of the young woman cop borders on sexual harassment. And of course, the older male cop is "broken" by the loss of his daughter and Prof T has a thing for the Chief Detective. It's just too damn much with the personal relationships and the crime of the week is basically filler (when it should be the other way around). My SO seems to like the show and there is nothing else on Sunday night at the moment so I'll be stuck watching it, but I can't say that I'm enjoying it.

Sigh. Another show I used to kind of enjoy and now hate watch. (The other half sat through Pose and The Nevers, so this is part of the pay-back). The FBI has turned into the typical Dick Wolf melodramatic/soap opera slop. PLEASE! Just give us cases of the week and spare us the love lives and angst of the agents involved. I can't stand Rina, and I'm hoping that she catches a very fast bullet next season. I find it hard to believe that if it became office knowledge that she and Jubal were having an affair, that one of them wouldn't be transferred somewhere else. Rina was already putting Jubal on the spot with his loyalty to Isobel. So he's sleeping with his boss' boss and this isn't going to end well. And as far as Isobel goes, in real life, if you were passed up for that kind of promotion, anybody with half a brain would be looking for another job because you just hit a brick wall in this one (and going at 90 miles an hour at that). Call me a curmudgeon, but I just can't believe how really bad network TV has become in 2021.

This was kind of a weird ending. It seemed that the writers wanted to wrap everything up in a nice bow (with Pray Tell being the AIDS martyr at long last). It seemed a rather cheap trick to have him on death's door and then get into a clinical trial and appear to be doing so much better, only to have him drop dead of a heart attack after he had his big "come back". He was gonna get his name on that AIDS quilt no matter what! And I agree that the lunch scene at the end was lacking. Yeah it was all exposition as someone above said. And I guess that the only thing these women had in common was that they were all Trans and were part of the Ball Scene? It's common for co-workers of many years who were friendly with each other, to lose touch after leaving a job, but these women were presented to us as a family; yet once they all went off to their happy endings, the bond was broken. They all stayed in New York, so yeah, maybe they move in different circles but not to reach out with phone calls? It just seemed odd. Finally, one of my pet peeves this season was all the slang and expressions that were not in use at the time. "Bougie" "Optics" - there were more but that's what I'm thinking right now. The set design people got the look of the era right (boy, do I remember those lacquer wall units), and the clothing was right on, but jeeze, get the era slang down please! Slaps face here - thanks for the correction!

And there was also an Annie Lennox video that was from the late 80s or early 90s that featured her removing a face full of very fanciful makeup down to bare skin. It was considered to be very daring of her to do that back then.

Oh hot damn - some real snark here! Almost spit out my tea while reading it. Thanks for the laugh! This show always seemed to have a hair/clothing/makeup budget of $100 a show. Every time I saw Joanna Cassidy in the bad wig, it made me think of Valley of the Dolls. And the wedding dress was beyond awful. It looked like the costume dept picked it up at Savers. Somebody's donated party dress from like 4 or 5 years ago. Chelsea Fields must be a really good sport to have agreed to wearing that dress. I swear, somebody should have made a citizen's arrest, it was so awful.

Was Erin killed with a shot to her head? For some reason, I thought that maybe she had been hit on the head. She certainly didn't have her "face blown off", so Dylan's statement about that was incorrect.

There wasn't any reasons given for Emily leaving the show? I am always amazed when a tv show can keep it so quiet when an actor is leaving (or has been fired) and then you see the episode where they are written out. This is the only TV forum that I'm on, but from the comments I've read here (and on TVwoP), the Bishop character didn't seem to be a fan favorite. Was she written out because of that, or other reasons? And did the actress leave because she wanted to (maybe wants to start a family or has gotten another gig) or was she canned? It will be interesting to see if the serial killer bombed Gibbs' beautiful boat or if he did it himself to fake his death. And so far, not really a fan of Knight. The actress is beautiful but the character also seems as if she's going to be pretty annoying.

Ok - so now I have to put my two cents in. Yeah, have to agree that this was really over the top (but fun) fantasy porn here. Top Tier Wedding Gowns, private Spa services, new furniture (where was the badly needed paint job for Blanca's apt?), male strippers - I'm a 63 year old woman and I was drooling! It was fun seeing our gang getting such good things but after one of Elecktra's speeches, the first thing that popped into my head was "Pride goeth before a fall". Elektra is way full of too, too, much pride and it's gonna bite her in the ass. Going in with mob guys, oh no, no, no. But man! I could not get enough of Elektra's outfits! All straight out of 60s, 70s, 80s Vogue. The makeup, the hair, the JEWELS. Swoon.... Blah, to the Papi kid drama. Seems to be a trope everywhere now - the stand-up guy with the child he didn't know about. Since the show seems to be doing fantasy fulfillment here, I guess that Papi's ultimate fantasy was to have a "real" family, and he wouldn't be able to have that with Angel (bio kids anyway). Bring this little boy into the mix and when Angel comes around to the idea - well Papi will get his dream. And just a comment to the "clocked" thing: back in the 70s, my sister and I used to go to the original Lime Lite club in Montreal. We used to like to go during the week as it was mostly Gay people in there and we were left alone (and BTW, my sister was underage, but nobody ever checked our ID). I used to gasp at the gorgeous women I'd see dancing away - and again, the clothes, hair, and makeup - I couldn't ever think I'd be able to compare in beauty to these visions. Then, I'd see one of these gorgeous creatures headed to the bathrooms - and without exception, it would be to the men's room. Clothes may make the woman, but the law was the law. So I'd begin to look a bit closer - and I don't care how beautiful the person looked, the usual giveaways were hands, feet, and adams apples. Maybe adams apples can be made smaller in some way, but your hands and feet are pretty much what you're stuck with. Maybe that is how the "clocking" happens...

Just something that I am mulling over in my head: when True fell backwards after "talking?" to the Galanthi, and she was told that she wasn't going to remember something, and we saw a woman wearing a lot of makeup who appeared to look like Myrtle (or an older version of her). Now Myrtle was the only person who was able to understand what Mary had been singing and that it had been a communication to Amalia True from the Galanthi. Is there a connection to THAT and why it appeared to be Myrtle in that final vision? And I'm thinking that it is one of the bad guys who "hitched along" - probably the evil doctor. I'm just hoping that by the end of this show (2022 - yikes!) the good side wins and the Galanthi makes it out alive. In the brief glimpse we got of it, it looked to me like a Pterodactyl crossed with a squid or octopus. Maybe octopi are going to be the new template for Aliens as opposed to the bug-eyed insect-looking things we used to see in years past.

I think that the new agent is going to be Jack's replacement. She was the negotiator on her murdered team, correct? She more than likely has some kind of training or background in psychology and she seems very badass, so my guess is she's staying with this team. And I agree that she is going to be set up as a possible love interest for Jimmy, or even possibly Torres if Bishop leaves the show.

Ok - so deep breath here. I've been letting this stew in my head since Sunday, and since reading all the great posts above. Let me preface this by saying that I had never heard of Joss Whedon before all the work toxicity reports hit the news and I have never watched any of the past tv shows that you folks are referencing (Buffy et al). I'm not a big SyFy tv fan other than the original Star Trek and if you count it, The Twilight Zone and Outer Limits. I also don't go to Super Hero movies though I read lots of comic books in my youth (we're talking 1960s here people) so I "get" the super powers concept. So far, 6 episodes in, my opinion is this: great acting, great sets/photography/costumes. The story concept is really interesting but the writing of that story is kind of a cluster fuck. Very few writers can do the constant going back and forth from the story present to flashback to present again, well. In the wrong hands it just becomes confusing. In this case, you're also throwing in all sorts of different accents into the mix and also past and future slang and idioms. I'm watching this show with a 73 year old (who was never a comic book fan) who usually watches police procedurals and Dour British Detective shows and he is confused as hell watching The Nevers, and I have to say, a good amount of the time, I am as well. In that way, this show is kind of a fail. I keep thinking that with all the talent involved and the money obviously put into the production, if they only had a writer who could have crafted such an interesting concept coherently you could have had a fantasy masterpiece. Instead we have this episodic thing which never quite gels as a whole, especially when watching it every week as opposed to binge watching it. I'm going to miss this now that it's gone (and probably won't be back unit 2022 - yikes!) but it makes me sad that there wasn't a master story teller (Neil Gaiman, where are you?) behind this concept. To think of what it is, instead of what it could have been....

This was a wrenching episode - I can't honestly say that I enjoyed it because I think it was too much truth in it. I did dislike when Vernon was telling Pray that he loved him and was going to be there on that bus back to NY. I was afraid that the show was really going to go there; thankfully it didn't. I agree with those who think that Pray should've given the POA to Blanca, so one has to hope that the aunt will do the right thing. And I was relieved that Pray said that he didn't want a big sendoff of a funeral as my mind was going to a series finale that would look like the end of "Imitation of Life" (Lana Turner version), white horse drawn hearse, gospel singing, and all.

I used to really enjoy this show - but now I'm glad that it's almost over. This episode was actually painful to watch. I would like to echo what all of you above said, as it's all true. It seems like a bunch of out of work soap opera writers came on board for this final season. It's almost nothing about actual criminal cases and more about Draamaa! The entire Pride's secret son story is bullshit and the Hannah/Carter luv story - blah. What a way to ruin a good show. RIP NCIS Nola.

Katie's mother is friends with Freddie's sister, so he probably saw around enough that he'd see the tattoo, or, they were both drug addicts and wasn't she supposed to be hooking to pay for her habit? And if she were hooking, maybe any number of men could have seen her tattoo.

I'm not sure where they are going with Zabel. I agree that there is going to be something hinky about the case he "solved". On one hand, they show him as this sort of fresh young almost "gee whiz" guy and then there is the backstory about being left at the altar and now his hitting on this older woman who was his boss for a few minutes. It kind of seems innocent (but how would we feel if the tables were turned and SHE were hitting on him), but maybe not. And the devout Catholic mother - is Zabel going to turn out to be some twisted by The Church freakazoid, or is his digging so much into the priest a sign that maybe he was abused by a priest when he was a child?

This was a great episode - The Pose that I waited for with anticipation (not like the previous 2 episodes). Yeah some retconning of Electra, but wow, oh wow. Every time I see Electra rocking one of those incredible outfits I say, "Can I be Electra when I grow up!". And the trunk with the body - thank God they finally got rid of it. And the backstory they gave that trunk - it represented where Electra came from and I think by finally disposing of it, it can "free" Electra in more ways than one.

This was a better episode than most this season. I actually liked the kid (who also has a very nice smile), but I'm unhappy that Lucy is going to him and not staying with Gibbs. Maybe this means that Gibbs will be either sailing away on the boat or be back in action again, leaving little time for a pet. And the bad guy - yeesh. Instead of just contacting the kid's guardians and telling them about his son needing a bone marrow donor, the guy has to hire henchmen, almost kill this nice couple and try and kidnap the kid. Talk about over kill. I guess as the doctor said, the dude was just a bad guy all the way around. And while I wouldn't mind Bishop and Torres together (as what is any NCIS show without 2 of the team in a relationship), this whole "talk" thing just got annoying. It's like what is this, jr high school? At this point, let them #$@% and get it over with already!

It may also be because most of the use of "fuck" is as a verb rather than as a standard curse word almost everybody and their grandma uses today. I've read my share of Victorian porn and that's generally how the act is described in that. How did people in polite society refer to sex? If it was ever referred to in polite society. When Swann was having his fun and games with the one girl in his club, note that he asked her if she was "spending" - that was the Victorian term for having an orgasm (at least in the porn). I think part of noticing the f word also is when Amalia uses it - here she is - looks very upright and proper but she uses the word in it's correct use and I think it comes across as a bit shocking, especially as she is so matter of fact about it. I don't watch many HBO dramas (right now its this one and Mare of Eastport) so I had no idea that graphic sex was such a big part of HBO shows. The opening scene of this episode was really kind of over the top and just seemed an excuse to put some hot action on screen. I guess that actors today have to be fairly exhibitionistic if they expect to get jobs. It's amazing to me how old movies got their point across and could be steamy without being something where you have to chase the kids out of the room when you're watching it. The hint of sex and using your imagination can be a lot sexier than what we're used to watching today.

Another episode which left me confused. Who arranged for that mass electrocution? Massen, The Beggar King, Maladie or ??? And did Massen say that he ordered the "hit" on Mary? I can't understand half of what is being spoken on this show! And the opening sex scene - ok, we get it, Amalia is a lusty woman, but ick. Especially in that her lover is a married man. I agree with Stuffy above - I wish they'd keep the nudity and sex to where it should be - in Swann's sex club.

I'm beginning to think that the COVID lockdowns sucked the brains out of so many tv writers. The shows that I've watched this season have gotten so bad and so cliched that it's an insult to the viewers' intelligence. NCIS mothership is almost unwatchable now. This show has retconned an affair between Dwayne Pride and Sasha Broussard (not even hinted at in the prior season which featured her) that resulted in a son and for what? To make drama between him and Rita, cause all this stupid angst, because all of a sudden this kid he knew nothing about is now HIS SON, and to drive home that Dwayne really is like dear old late Dad. So we'll have the remaining shows featuring Sasha getting her due (and probably killed off in some way), Carter and Hannah declaring their L.U.V. for each other, Tammy moving in with her girlfriend, and the big wedding of Pride and Rita and everybody (including The Son) dancing the night away at the bar.