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The "Justice for Joy" episode really bothered me. That poor woman was murdered by that psycho over a lousy $20 pot deal and the police investigating her murder were told to back off from the scumbag because he was an informer? Good God, unless he was an informant on some multi-million dollar cartel sting, it seems that Joy's life was valued at zero by that police force. And unfortunately, I can believe that April was scared of her ex-husband for years. She probably got the crap kicked out of her by him on more than one occasion and knowing that he could kill her friend and burn down her house, she could easily think that he had nothing to lose if he killed her too. It wouldn't surprise me that maybe he was so murderous towards Joy because maybe she had told April to get the hell away from this guy. There has to be more to the murder/house burning than just the pot deal, although from reading the newspaper everyday, people are killed for a lot less.
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Ok, so did anybody watch the case about Jane Dorotik? This is the first that I've seen anything about this case (I wasn't watching true crime TV 20 years ago). From what they showed here, it appears that she became the victim of bad police work.
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5 hours ago, possibilities said:
Maybe CBS doesn't like the idea of helping ordinary people, and are forcing the show to abandon that premise.
I think that CBS has found that shows that aren't non-stop gun fights/explosions/people getting the shit kicked out of them have a viewership in the dreaded over 50 Female category and for some strange reason advertisers don't like or want us. And I'm getting to the point where I'm fed up to here with violent stupidity and want to spend more of my viewing time watching PBS or TCM and to hell with network TV AND their advertisers for shoving this crap down our throats.
The original premise of this show was a good one and I thought that Robyn was over and done with the CIA and that doesn't seem to be the case now. And yeah, I thought that Fisk was gonna buy the farm when he was on the call with Robyn, but maybe that will be next week's episode unless Donal Logue has a long contract with this show.
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I think that Naomi Watts looked more like CZ when she (Naomi) was young. I found Chloe hard to believe as CZ as well.
Of all the swans portrayed, I think that CZ Guest was the only one of the women "to the manor born", though the families of Babe Paley and Lee Bouvier certainly were wannabes (and groomed their daughters to marry rich).
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On 3/19/2024 at 2:45 PM, christie said:
I saw the first episode, thought it was ok and watched the remaining episodes so as to see what would happen and because I hate dropping tv series. Jack seemed nice (albeit a bit of a doormat), Alice was extremely unlikeable and I never got his fascination and attachment to her.
The only good thing about this series was Jack's friend, who seemed to be the only person with a brain in his head. On the whole this series was boring, the two leads had no chemistry. A waste of six hours (or however long it was).
Well Christie, I peaked at your spoiler and I can say Thank You for saving my companion and me from wasting 5 more hours of our lives. We sat through episode 1 and neither of us could see the appeal of these people. It was like really badly done Somerset Maugham (and at least his writing had a sense of humor). I actually laughed when I read your spoiler. I just hope that the poor woman we saw him married to in Episode 1 got a happy ending.
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Ok, so it looks as if they are using many of the exact same sets as "Funny Woman" (I wonder if both shows were filming at the same time?).
I'm enjoying the show and got a laugh when a character said "Sister George", because that was the first thing that came to my mind about the entire premise of this show.
"The Killing of Sister George" started out as a "shocking" (due to it's lesbian theme) early 1960s play and was made into a shocking- for- it's- day movie in 1968. "Sister George" is the name of a beloved older woman character in a soap opera type tv show who the studio bosses decide must be killed off. The actress playing Sister George is a very tough cigar smoking old broad who is not going to go quietly. I saw the movie about 10 years ago and it was uh, interesting.
"Nolly" is taking place almost 15 years after "Sister George" so the movie would have been known to most of the "Cross Roads" cast and writers.
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Made through the first episode and thought "why?". Wuthering Heights this ain't.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder but the male lead is not really all that attractive and he has the personality of a luke warm bowl of oatmeal. And so far, Alice comes across as borderline bat-shit crazy and not a very nice person. If Jack were my friend, I'd tell him to run for the hills. There is nothing we have been shown that makes either of these characters remotely interesting as people.
And for the shallow aside - whoever decided that Alice should sport the Carolyn Bessette look of severe pulled back hair, no eye makeup, and bold lipstick, is doing the actress no favors. At least pencil in her eyebrows!
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On 3/15/2024 at 12:34 AM, ItCouldBeWorse said:
Here's the article that started it all: https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/a40376194/truman-capote-la-cote-basque/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=arb_ga_esq_md_pmx_hybd_mix_us_18717285305&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwwMqvBhCtARIsAIXsZpbGL82f4Q8kgxEkKPz8OYa3rw-QYHRNIddOVojSGKulD3d5KbCnLfAaAk_0EALw_wcB
Yes, one has got to read this and understand why Slim Keith was so angry. And my God, the way he beyond trash-talked Ann Woodward! That's heavy-duty stuff when you accuse somebody of not only being a former hooker but also a very cold-blooded murderer. If the woman was already shunned from the social circles she wanted to be in and then Capote puts out a story like this - well, I guess you can understand why she committed suicide.
Frankly, other than Slim Keith and Ann Woodward, I don't understand why the other women were so incensed. Ok, yeah, so Babe was probably embarrassed but it wasn't a secret that her husband was a notorious womanizer. And my guess is that the "lady" in that tale might not have been Happy Rockefeller but more likely Pamela Churchill Harriman, who by the way, had an affair with a Rothschild who refused to marry her. And she had also been a lover of Bill Paley as well as all other sorts of very rich men. I think that Truman took all sorts of bits and pieces of these society women's lives and added it to his story.
I'm going to admit that I've read very little of Capote's writing and I'm going to guess that the works that made him famous were better written than this was. The lurid tales he was recounting kept me reading, but man, the writing was awful.
Anyway, thanks for linking this - it was good to be able to read the story behind Feud - Capote vs The Swans.
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1 hour ago, tennisgurl said:
So do we know who ended up getting Truman's ashes? Its all very ghoulish but I think the auctioneer had it right when he said that Truman would have eaten that drama up.
I haven't watched the finale yet so can't comment on that, but I think that at least some of Truman's ashes were scattered with Jack's at some property that they left to the Nature Conservancy in The Hamptons. I also read somewhere that Joanne Carson claimed to have some of Truman's ashes but that has been disputed.
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On 3/7/2024 at 2:34 PM, ItCouldBeWorse said:
It seems like the granddaughter is mostly complaining that the show 1) portrayed Babe as a bad mother, and 2) as still smoking after her lung cancer diagnosis. I can accept that the second was not true, and it does make her grandmother look kind of dumb if the show doesn't also doesn't portray her as at least trying to quit.
As for the first, you can be a terrific grandmother and a terrible mother...
I haven't been able to read the Belle Burden NY Times piece (it's always behind a fire wall), but a few nights ago I WAS able to read a 1990 article about Babe from Vanity Fair magazine, and according to that article she wasn't the best mother as most of her efforts were focused on Bill Paley and his expectations of her. Even her children with him took 2nd place (and from the article, they were much more troubled than the kids both she and Bill had from their first marriages). The article was a long read but enlightening to the life that Babe had.
And I guess I'll go slink off to the bad table near the kitchen as I'm still enjoying this show for all of the craziness. I'm viewing it as a work of gonzo fiction inspired by Truman Capote and his NY High Society friends. This past episode didn't have the laughs the previous episode did (my God, the line Truman said about Herb Ross made me almost choke on my glass of wine), but I thought it to be poetic and beautiful in it's strange way. I'm going to really miss this show when it's over.
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Anybody watch last night's Dateline? How very sad a story - the poor victim had been dating his new girlfriend for such a short period of time and got murdered because she had an obsessed ex.
I'm still almost flabbergasted about how much in denial the murderer's parents are in. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that it was there son on the video. Even the guy's wife obviously realized it was him on the video. I'm glad that she finally got her life together and didn't give him an alibi. And I believe her 100% when she said that she had been getting pressure from both her husband AND his parents to give him that alibi. I think that the charge that she was trying to essentially "blackmail" him was bullshit. The guy was nothing but a cold-blooded murderer and I hope that he spends the rest of his life behind bars.
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21 hours ago, pezgirl7 said:
To minimize the disappointment of those who feel let down by 4 seasons of a relationship buildup, by saying we should just tune in to some crappy reality show on Bravo instead, is just dismissive and disrespectful.
I'm very sorry (mortified actually) that I hurt people's feelings and meant no disrespect. To everybody whom I offended, please accept my apologies - life in general has enough to grind our teeth over and TV shouldn't be one of those things. Again, apologies.
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2 hours ago, tv echo said:
'Miss Scarlet' Without the Duke Abandons the Fundamental Premise of the Show
BY LACY BAUGHER FOR PBS ON MARCH 5TH, 2024
https://tellyvisions.org/article/can-miss-scarlet-survive-without-dukeI'm beginning to think that there is a large audience of PBS British Drama viewers who like to think themselves above watching soap operas or reality TV crap like The Real Housewives of Bayonne but will more than happily tune in to soap operas as long as they are disguised as something else. Grantchester isn't supposed to be about a minister and cop solving crimes together -seems that a chunk of it's viewers supposedly REALLY want all the soap stuff (ministers having sex with gorgeous young women, married or not. The cop cheating on his wife, the Gay minister, blah, blah, blah); just like apparently a segment of it's views will not tune into to Miss Scarlet if the hot, dark, brooding cop is out of the picture because they don't want crimes - they want romance! Lacy Baugher wants a bodice ripper and not a detective show. I'm a viewer who wants the detective show and roots for a woman who, although she can be a self-centered pain the butt, is also great at solving crimes and trying to make her way in a world where women were mostly relegated to being wives or spinsters looking after their parents or other people's kids.
Poor Lacy feels "cheated", well, Portofino Hotel will be back soon enough, plenty of "sexual tension" there. And there's always Bravo and the networks.
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15 hours ago, pdlinda said:
I watch NO LIVE shows...NONE! That's why I pay for cable and have a DVR so I can FF through the INTERMINABLE COMMERCIALS!
There were a few times I missed recording Dateline so I tried seeing it the next day on "ON DEMAND." WHAT A MISTAKE! I tried to access the FF and, whoops, I got a notification that function was not operative for that show!
That was the first and last time I ever accessed ON DEMAND!
15 hours ago, pdlinda said:I watch NO LIVE shows...NONE! That's why I pay for cable and have a DVR so I can FF through the INTERMINABLE COMMERCIALS!
There were a few times I missed recording Dateline so I tried seeing it the next day on "ON DEMAND." WHAT A MISTAKE! I tried to access the FF and, whoops, I got a notification that function was not operative for that show!
That was the first and last time I ever accessed ON DEMAND!
Yeah, we've done this at home also and so not worth it to sit through a million commercials. The only shows we watch in real time are on PBS, HBO, or TCM so we don't have to deal with endless commercials.
The Fotis case - I was kind of surprised that Michelle got convicted on all of the charges. There is no doubt in my mind that she knew about the murder after the fact and was an accessory in helping to cover it up but I still wonder about her actually knowing Fotis was going to kill his wife before he did it. I also kept thinking that the prosecution was hoping that she'd cut a deal and lead them to Jennifer's body but at this stage, she probably really doesn't know where Fotis buried her. My guess is that she is under some construction site or maybe dumped in some body of water. If they ever find her body, it will be by accident. Fotis killing himself was another way he had "control" and was also a big F You to his wife's family by never giving them closure in having her body.
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Another Gary Cole fan here but I'm chiming in to add that this was actually a fairly enjoyable episode. Network schlock indeed but I liked the case and I even liked the light-hearted bits. I much prefer the jokey Torres to the tortured Torres (both mentally and physically).
I'm almost ashamed to admit that I thought that the girlfriend was behind it for a minute and then said "nah". The actress had me sold there - I was actually hoping that she and the kidnapped victim had their "happily ever after". It was a fun surprise that it was a different ending.
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Maybe I'm in the minority in being glad that The Duke is out. I found the would they/won't they to be tiresome and I couldn't imagine how even more tiresome it would be if they wound up together.
Personally, I prefer her with Nash. He "gets" her and appreciates who she is and isn't trying to turn her into another housefrau. If they are thinking of eventually pairing her up with somebody, maybe give her a choice of suitors and some of the romantic tension can come from which one she'd choose in the end.
There was a tv show about twenty years ago called "Caroline In The City". At the start of the show, Caroline had a hunky boyfriend who checked all of the boxes most women want. She also had a male assistant who was snarky, decent-looking but not "hunky", and kind of a pain in her ass. By the time the show ended, the original boyfriend wound up not being the paragon he seemed to be and Caroline wound up with the assistant. Of course there was some interesting reconfiguring of the characters and their stories but it was done in an organic way and it was nice that the guy who was least likely wound up with the girl (and deservedly so) at the end.
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I think that the blind vet said that he smelled the scent three times in his life: (I forget the fist time - maybe in the military?) , then on a trip to Ireland, and then in the subway, but I could be incorrect.
Also, the blind guy's abilities were rather eye rolling, and yeah, why would the dirtbag corrupt construction guy be driving that car (unless it's because the car was so old it's considered "vintage" and cool). I did like that the show was back to the concept of helping people with no where else to turn, and I really enjoyed Aunt Vi and Dee investigating their own case and helping their friend.
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6 hours ago, abbyzenn said:
I too thought it would be the smug CIA agent. I must have dozed off for a few seconds because when they arrested the guy I didn't know who it was.
I did like the humor provided by the trading jobs thing.
There is just something about Kaise that I don't like. Like in this case she goes from being too timid to want to answer the phone (the woman needing the base police) to working the case when she answers Webb's call (which was only her second phone call). And it's not like she's competent in field work.
I also thought it would be the smug CIA agent. As far as Kaise goes, the actress makes her very likeable. I can see her being timid about answering a phone call that may involve life or death but what got her pulled into the case was feeling a connection with the guy who was calling. Her sense of caring about what happened to him totally overcame any fears she might have had about being in the field. And remember: this is NCIS world, logic goes out the window pretty fast.
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2 hours ago, Ottis said:
Maybe the show wants us to think everyone will eventually be driven mad one way or another, and Navarre did kill herself to show one of the most well-adjusted native women was not unscathed.
Still turning this thought over in my slow head. If that was the point, it's not a bad one. Nor, however, is it confined to indigenous natives. Even 65yo Republican white men don't like that the old ways are changing. Though it would be awesome if a few, selected examples would wander off into the ice, too. Note: I'm an old white man, I can say that.
I don't think that Navarro was well-adjusted - I think she was anything but. I think that she was struggling mentally and was afraid that she was going to wind up like her mother and sister who had mental illness and substance abuse issues. The question was whether she was going to follow the siren song of "I want to end me" as the Billy Elish song went over the opening credits or would she reach the point of where she would choose to live in this world.
I kinda like the thought of a select group of old white people wandering out on the ice as long as I'm not one of them, being old and white myself.
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Yes I think that Johnny Whoever was a chop shop guy. I guess that he didn't know who he was dealing with. Both him and the other chop shop guy wound up dead and the girl who worked with them had the diamond, having stolen it from the glove compartment of the car earlier.
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50 minutes ago, blackwing said:
I didn't care for it either. Everyone kept shooting each other, I kind of lost track who and why. So now that Dante is sort of on the team, does that mean everything Robyn and Mel are doing is sanctioned by the police (and the district attorney)? They had no qualms engaging in multiple shootouts, and many people died. Sure, they were all mostly bad guys, but still.
I'm glad I was not the only one confused. I think the ambassador didn't like the dictator so he stole one of the Sudanese crown jewels. He was going to use this money to defect and get away from the dictator. He hid the diamond in the car. But the son took the car to go drag racing. Dictator sent his team to go find the diamond and to kidnap the son to get it back. The people from the chop shop also wanted the diamond? Nobody knew that son's pseudo-girlfriend had stolen it.
The ambassador didn't like the dictator and didn't want to go back home, so he stole the diamond to sell to get enough money for him and his family to change their identities and go into hiding. The guys who wanted the diamond were bad guys (former British military guys turned international criminals) and they were pissed off because they had a contract with the ambassador for the diamond and now he didn't know where it was. I'm confused about how his aide was involved (the woman who was shot and killed by the bad guys); maybe she knew where the son and the car was.... I have no clue.
I don't think the chop shop guys knew about the diamond (the girl didn't tell them; she was keeping that to herself). They wanted the car so they could chop shop it. So you had two sets of bad guys - the international criminals who wanted the diamond, and the local NY chop shop bozos who wanted the car. The whole thing was absurd. And of course the little girl hit and run victim was going to make a full recovery so her Mom wasn't going to press charges (like she would have to - the NY police would arrest the hit and run driver regardless).
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Can't say that I enjoyed this episode. Again, everything seems to revolve around shoot-em-ups. I guess that I really miss "God Friended Me".
I wanted to just slap Dee. Can somebody please tell this little PITA that you can go to college AND after you get your degree you can enlist. And big bonus - since you have the college degree you can go in as an officer, which is a super-shit load better than being an enlisted person.
Dee especially bugged the hell out of me as I enlisted in the Air Force (back in the dinosaur 70s) because my parents wouldn't allow me to go to college and the area where I lived was having a recession due to the Vietnam war ending (so many companies back then were tied up to the aerospace industry). My parents couldn't stop me from enlisting because I was 19, but being in the military (especially coming from my background) was an eye opening experience. And I didn't even have to worry about being sent to a war someplace as there weren't any at that time. Even back then, most of the people who enlisted did so because of crummy job opportunities where they were from. I didn't know anybody who had a chance at college who said, "Nah, I think I'll enlist instead".
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So, reading these comments during my incredibly boring work day are giving me as much entertainment as True Detective - Night Country (which I looked forward to watching every Sunday).
Folks, going all the way back to Season One, this show was called "True Detective" as a homage to trashy pulp crime fiction. Think of the material that many of the 40s/50s Film Noirs were based on. This stuff wasn't meant to be Dostoevsky, or even Hemingway - it is meant to be entertainment pure and simple. The premise sucks us in with the supernatural voodoo hoodoo, and the crime and I think many of us are taking it way too seriously. I remember how I felt at the end of Season One and was wrapped up in Carcosa and the Yellow King and half expected Cthulhu to come crawling out of a corner, and it turned out the killer was some lawn mower driving cretin who came out of an AIP Hippie Horror Exploitation movie. So much for Carcosa... But I still enjoyed the hell out of the show.
Anyway, count me in as somebody who really loved this show despite all the plot holes you could sink the Titanic in. And also count me in as a person who believed that Navarro didn't kill herself and is doing the off the grid Spiritual Quest. I think that she fought her demons and has come out on top, and that the Good Guys won.
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On 2/20/2024 at 5:25 PM, iMonrey said:
And this was in 2009 before social media was as big as it is now. I agree a lot of the school shootings are just inspired by the attention school shootings get. The fact that these two kids chronicled the entire murder plot on video speaks to their desire for infamy and attention. I assume they chickened out at the last minute and tried to burn the tape.
It really doesn't matter which one was the "mastermind" they are both equally culpable.
But I think that the dark haired kid had some degree of guilt (and maybe even remorse) which may be why he started spilling to the police. The blond kid is just a total psychopath. No guilt, no remorse, and apparently his parents are very happy to say that the other kid was the instigator. I guess they think their son, the cool cucumber, was led astray. I bet if you looked into the background of these kids you'd find some kind of animal torture/killing. I can't believe you can go to sadistically stabbing to death a high school friend without some prior practice in killing other helpless beings.
This case reminds me of a 1920s crime which horrified America i- the Leopold/Loeb murder case. Leopold and Loeb were two young men from well to do families and they murdered 14 year old Bobby Frank who was a cousin of one of them. Clarence Darrow was hired as the defense attorney for Loeb and the crime was the inspiration of many books and movies over the years.
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S01.E01: Episode 1
in Mr Bates vs The Post Office
My blood was boiling while watching this episode. The one poor guy being put in jail really had me enraged. I'm hoping that these people whose lives and finances were destroyed by the post office and their software get some kind of justice by the end of this show.