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Glad to hear they're both doing better...but I'm watching the episode right now, and I really cannot with John's pre-surgery monotone sad-sack voice overs about how desperate to go to Houston because they've tried everything (cut to 2 Pringles cans being opened) and nothing ever works (cut to said Pringles cans being dumped in a rubbermaid trough for the drive). I've seen several episodes of this show and seriously, that kind of bullshit line just gets to me every time. What do they think something "working" looks like? The episode opened with John's breakfast of 5 or 6 fully loaded chili dogs and a platter of tater tots. It feels like: if I were standing in my kitchen with lettuce and veggies in the fridge and defrosted chicken in the meat drawer and pots and pans in the cupboard and I'd be like "Gosh, I just can't make dinner happen, I've tried everything but it just doesn't work." Um you have to actually do the cooking and preparation? Others have noted, in posts on one of these threads, that there's a passivity and distance when poundticipants refer to "the weight" as something "other". Same thing with the eating habit(s). "I've tried everything and it doesn't work." Okay. You've tried some things, maybe, and you didn't like doing them. You've tried some things, and you found them very hard. What you've actually tried that isn't working is eating 6 chili dogs and a platter of tater tots for breakfast. All the time. Sigh. Rant over. On a brighter note, Lonny seems really sweet and fun. (The clothes shopping for John is adorable!) His brother, I have no idea how he is married. I don't see what he offers. He's so lethargic and dull, there's not exactly a sparkling personality and keen mind happening there.

Maybe I've watched, so far, a selection of particularly egregious poundticipants (wait--is it "poundtestants"?), but I found Tiffany to be pretty decent and non-hateworthy. Sure, she was a dingbat in certain ways, but she seemed to have a good future-thinking attitude. At least she made arrangements for help at the airport, unlike Maja ("ZOMFG SO MUCH WALKING HUFF HUFF THE MEAN PEOPLE LIIIIIIED TO ME"). I thought she was polite to the attendants. She did have the famous bathroom "gotta change my panties" accident, but she seemed mostly embarrassed about it. A little passive and dim, but seemed like a nice enough person to me.

OMG, when you put it that way....holy shit. Their relationship seemed way more like a paid attendant/whiny spoiled client than boyfriend/girlfriend. Unlike many episodes in which--no matter how fucked-up the dynamic may be--you do hear and see some sort of love or affection between the featured couple, there was none with Maja and Christian. None. That also makes sense of the "I can take a day off" comment!

Chuck's episode was the first one I ever watched. OMG, what a fucking baby. I couldn't stand his pleading and crying. "Give me another chance, I'll make it right!" I think that was when I developed the habit of muttering out loud as I watched any given episode. "I'm going to do whatever it takes!" No you won't "I will do anything to be the husband and father I'm meant to be!" No you won't "I'll do whatever Dr. Now says!" No you won't "This is my only chance!" No it isn't "I've been mostly sticking to the diet!" No you weren't "I've been doing everything I possibly could!" No you haven't "I eat...two or threeeee? regular meals...and um I snack sometimes on...grapes and crackers." No you don't "I don't understand what happened (when I only lost 23 pounds instead of 70 this month)." Yeah you do I finally saw the Maja episode a few days ago, and wow, she was a drama tornado and a total blamer. I was pro-Christian the entire time. Some people viewed him as being on the spectrum, or being a jerk; I saw what he was doing as being matter-of-fact. Just--totally non-reactive. And I was delighted when he bailed. I think he pursued the WLS and helped her get to Houston in order to give her a leg up (owww mah lehhgg) when he left. I think he was already completely outta there, mentally and emotionally, but wanted to try to get her in a better place to be on her own. A person can only take so much of that constant self-centeredness. People like Maja suck all the air out of the room.

It's the "thrill of the chase". All sorts of addicts know this feeling and these behaviors.

Hi all! I've watched about 10 episodes, and I've read a lot of threads here. I appreciate the discussion of whether the people on the show are addicted to food or, really, to eating. Because as I'm watching, it sure seems like the latter. My main takeaway from the eps I'v watched: an overwhelming sense of revulsion toward drive-thrus. I keep thinking about the way various folks on the show drive from one fast food place to another, boom boom boom. You don't even have to get out of your car, you don't have to stand at the counter and face someone. I wonder if therapists might challenge some people in these situations to go ahead and eat your fast food (initially), BUT you cannot order out, you can't drive through, you can't eat it secretly at home--you must go there and eat it in the restaurant. I also could live the rest of my life without hearing some variation on "Dr. Now is my only hope, my only chance, my only way..." I'm not sure what they actually believe "weight loss surgery" is. It's not surgery that makes you lose weight. It's a tool, but ultimately most of the weight is lost by one's own efforts and seriousness. As is evidenced by the weight they lose prior to the surgery.

Oh, my my my. Today we got the famed "Victor brings makeup to Nikki in the hospital" scene. I've heard about it over the years, but I don't think I've ever actually viewed it. Lucky me! 1. Nikki is such a fucking priss. 2. They sell makeup at a "hospital store"? 3. I found the whole dynamic gross and creepy. 4. Was this considered adorable and swoony back in the day?

Now, now. She also awkwardly thrust her ass from side to side, once or twice, with no discernible sense of rhythm, and stuck her arms straight up in the air a few times. Oh, and then she clumsily bent way down in her lingerie, and stood back up again. All the very best and most seductive dance moves, folks.

I found and acquired a full boxed set of vintage Little House books, and have re-read them all during this stay-at-home time. It's been a delight! Yes, some of the content is really jarring to my 2020 mind, but still, there is a ton of fascinating detail in those books. Also, I can't say enough about Garth Williams' illustrations. They are lovely and evocative.

I used to be a diehard Y&R viewer (I'm sure I've posted with some of you at other forums in the past), but hadn't been following it for the past few years. Tuned in for a little while in early March. I found it boring as fuck, and I can't stand the guy currently playing Adam (Jesus, get a test for anemia, or eat some beef or something), and this whole posse of younger people (Kyle, Theo, Young Chef Lady, Mop-Headed Adam's Childhood Friend, blah blah blah zzzzzz) so I didn't bother. But now! Vintage episodes?! I should have seen this coming, and I love it! The clothes, the hair, the sets...ay yi yi! This should be fun.

So true about the Wilder boys' names! 😝 Dammit, Snow Apple, I missed the Nellie one again? I really want to see it.

Hey all, I checked the local listings for Cozi TV, and they are running the pilot this Thursday. It starts an hour earlier than usual. Lately they've been running the "New Beginnings" season, which sucks. Bring on the pilot! I remember the old thread--and I saw "the mime who raped Sylvia" on Cozi a week or two ago!