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I think anyone using the word diaper is a contributor, doesn't matter which side of the changing table you are on. So, I think it would be a great idea for all of us to give each other a great big huggie, right? Then take some time for ourselves, maybe a little pamper-ing or a good workout? I like push-ups and pull-ups myself. :)

From a practical point of view, I do not think Jen was in the dark about the actual renewal and party. It required in my opinion a larger crew and more equipment that usual so she would of known. Also, that little exchange about the pager going off was about the worst acting I have ever seen. I do however think she was genuinely surprised to see the dress designer show up and that her aunt was there. The party seemed laid back and nice, not at all pretentious. But, I do agree that Jen made it all about her, when it was really just as much about Bill. I am glad it was the last show because at this point I am sick of watching (especially Will) them eat. I think his food problems go way beyond cake and I feel bad for him. I noticed Jen had to remove the plate of fruit from the table because he would not stop taking more even after they told him not to. Yes, Will was most notably absent from the cake scene. I have a feeling he had to be removed from the party at some point because he was also not with anyone else or in the crowd. He is always eating so my guess is the minute the party started and he saw that cake, he had a full tilt boogie meltdown.

Remember the set up before we find out Will doesn't like pickles? Bill was scripted to make it sound like someone choked on their food.

Hope the food was fresh and not out in the sun. If guests gets food poisoning it turns into a bowel renewal. :)

What I should of added is.....that Jens bouquet is on the table, but no Jen. Did Will knock her out?

All he will probably say is .......keck, big keck.

Working title: Screw Jen, I want keck !! and I want it now !!

Yep, that is correct. Thanks for the refresher. :)

Except she did it before she had the port which was the first day she was adopted and screaming. Jen held her away from her, except one time she held her against her in the hotel bedroom.

I go with the bone too, everyone is different. Yet, you can easily see that Bill is naturally affectionate, bonded deeply with those kids. I am sure they got asked hundreds of times why Jen holds Zoey away from her. Obviously they didn't answer that particular question during that show. I would love to know why. Its so unnatural and strange. Once again, if this is such an educational show, why not answer?

I say a lot of dubbing too, plus there are times they mute too. For instance when Will is having his keck meltdown at the table, they muted him at one point.

Exactly and the kids are working. As another poster pointed out it can take days to get a few minutes of useable tape. All that goes into doing just that is a constant interruption to everyday life, especially that of a child.

Thanks for the details :)

The finished dress looked really pretty and great on Jen.

I agree. There is no way Will would of gone back to Houston without eating that cake either. He would end up on "Snapped". :)

Well, it was Jen who portrayed it as .......what if one of her patients needs her? Then ending set up to imply the cliffhanger of what if Jen has to go back and they cannot do the vow renewal.

Doctors on call have to be in the area in case a patient needs immediate care. In her case she is taking care of very sick premature babies, so she cannot be out of town. She talked about if one of her patients needed her. She isn't going to be of much help if she is as Bill said around an hour or so away.

Of course Jen had something to do with it, as she clearly acted out the pager/charger, then the uh oh cliffhanger at the end. This concoction is insulting to viewers, yes its vintage TLC, but The Kleins are and have been drinking the Kool-Aid now for a long time. Jen apparently was so caught up in it that she failed to realize how it would look when a doctor goes out of town while on call? Doctors on call cannot go out of town.

I agree with Bitter Apple about this whole surprise being totally fake. The moments I enjoyed was when Bill and Zoey were in the dress shop. He let Zoey have some space and freedom. It was nice to see her just be...... I didn't see an improvement in Will's speech. He seemed to be stuck with one word utterings and of course one of those words was "keck". Keck, keck, keck and more keck. I do however now understand their motives. We are being edu-cake-ded.

I used to watch the nanny show with Jo Frost. She taught the correct way to deal with a tantrum, meltdown and how to do a time out. The mistakes Jen makes is to reason and go on and on which does nothing as other posters have pointed out but prolong and aggravate the situation. Mr, Matt, she did go on and on about the "ceck" with him. What she should of done is explain once there is no cake/desert tonight and say dinner is over and its time to get down from the table and play. If he persists which he did, she should give him a warning for a time out and then do it correctly which she doesn't do. Less is more especially with little children. You are supposed to explain once why you are being put in time out and then walk away. One minute for how many years of age the child is. If the child gets up or runs, you take them back to time out with no explanation and repeat until the child completes the time. Then you explain again why they were put in time out and ask them to applogize. Then a hug and kiss. What really annoyed me is that Jen during the hit mommy scene kept making Will do his "are you ready?" routine. Once is enough. But I heard them say they are now doing it with Zoey too. I don't see the point of it because its not something that any teacher or school will use. It seems like Jen kept doing it because it was the only thing Will would do and obey her.

So, why make it worse with exposing their personal home lives?

The education thing. It seems to be spin phrase for reality folks. Education would be a couple of specials, not a years long series of The Kleins going on vacation, parties, dinners and doing as many tv appearances and paparazzi opportunities as they can. I would of loved to learn how Jen got thru medical school. I often wonder how she got thru all the rotations? Now that would be educational and very interesting. What I have learned is that this couple seem to need more assistance and help than other dwarfs. Not a criticism, just my observation. While that is indeed educational, wouldn't it be more educational to showcase a family without the money and endless help the Kleins have? Maybe the heartbreak of a couple who cannot fly off to Los Angeles all the time on a moments notice to try and have a baby? Now with the addition of two innocent children with no choices, at this time I have a hell of a lot more respect for Honey Boo Boos mother who doesn't use the education card, the creating memories card or any other card.

Well, I would like to see that too, but I would rather see them take their kids off tv and move to another home without a pool. But, for those two moments a firm no was in order.

There is a huge difference between being filmed for fun by family and they stick it on Facebook or Youtube, versus being filmed on a tv show that millions of people watch. I personally do not google or look for say..."The Johnson Family at the egg hunt" video. There is a huge difference when your home is rigged with many special hot lights needed to film, along with booms, cameras, crew and producers versus a parent taking a video for memories. I am sure Will and Zoey know there is also a big difference in film days versus days off in how they can behave and what they can do. I think Will especially has already learned that if he cries and carries on during filming, chances are a big sugary treat will be provided asap. From what has already been filmed will hurt Zoey and Will when they get to school. Young children can be just as mean as older ones and they already have plenty of material to tease and taunt these 2 little kids with. If as another poster pointed out, the attention goes to their heads versus being teased or bullied, that will be a rude and difficult adjustment when they find out are no different from any other student in class. As another poster said, time will tell what kind of people/parents Bill and Jen really are. I did not say helium voice to be mean. I used it as a description of how she sounds and how many primordial dwarfs sound. I was talking at the time about how Jen seems to have a lot of the primordial characteristics while not actually being primordial.

The episode I would love to see is the final one, hopefully this season is the last. Jen and Bill say they work but we really do not know if that is true. I have often wondered how much Jen could work with all those trips for fertility, surrogacy, adoption, the fun trips and then her cancer. I wonder if she just fills in because she cant be full time while taking all that time off. Myself and others have seen many signs that both of them have been bitten by the fame and the money that comes with it. The big house with the free furniture, the trips, the parties. I actually think they like the fame the most. Dining at Mr. Chows is what all the D listers do the minute they get to L.A. The fake paparazzi who are hired by TLC they seem to like a lot too.