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Dirker

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  1. 4 things: 1. PB price did go up to 4 tokens. 2. If Probst changed his mind on Immunity idols held by Rob & Natalie, it's just more evidence that the producers are trying their best to help Rob win if he makes it back in. They can give them another challenge that he's good at, but at least they can't guarantee he'll win. I bet producers were bummed when Tyson pulled out the win on the last one. 3. I feel bad for Adam. He screwed up early on and was unreliable. He only did it the one time, but Rob lied about him acting shady again and everyone ate it up, and everyone still believes he's totally untrustworthy. I don't understand why anyone believes anyone who talks about someone behind their back. "She threw your name out... He's gunning for you... They're acting shady." I guess you have to believe some people sometimes, but anyone who believes Rob, Sandra, or Parvati deserves to get voted out. Anyhow, maybe it's just me, but I'd rather have people know bad stuff about that's true rather than believe bad stuff that's a lie. That drives me up the wall, and I have a feeling that situation is part of why Adam just kept unraveling. It's funny that pretty much every player says they're changing up their own game this time, but they all assume that everyone else is playing the exact same game they played before. 4. I think all the old-schoolers got voted out because they played a game that works with newbies, and somehow assumed it would work with new-school winners. With absolute newbies, old-schoolers have had great results aligning with some new people early on, 'cause the newbies look up to them, are flattered to be asked to align with them, and generally let the old-schoolers call the shots. But while new-school winners look up to the old-schoolers, they also see them as competition and big threats, not potential allies. Old schoolers should have stuck together instead of thinking they'd be seen by new schoolers as a way to advance in the game.
  2. As someone said earlier, the show version of an engagement is not anything like a real engagement, even if it was kind of sort of close in the early season. It's super-weird to me that anyone sees it as real. As someone else said, it's just asking someone to "go steady" and give it some sort of try in the real world. I don't think there's anything wrong with "dating around" if everyone knows what is going on, and of course that is how the show works. Sleeping with more than one person is not that uncommon, although usually the agreement to be exclusive comes first. I can't see actual marriage between Peter and any of the final three. Not Madison, since they will never be on the page faith-wise. He might go along with it for a while, while she kids herself that he'll come around eventually, but he will never be anything like her father, which is what she wants, and she will never be like his mother, which is what he wants. Maybe he & Hanna could have a decent thing, but, again, he's not her father. He & Victoria could work for a while, but the first conflict, real or imagined or manufactured by one of them, would probably break it. They are at the same level in many ways, though - they really are the most alike, and she is the most like his mother, so maybe?
  3. Victoria’s deeply insecure, and very likely Borderline Personality (which is incredibly difficult to treat and does not miraculously disappear when subjected to “tough love”). The eye contact thing is 100% in line with my personal experiences; some people truly can not make eye contact in stressful situations, and the shakey eye thing when looking away confirms it for me. I truly feel bad for her, but I’m also mature enough to not let somebody like that make their problems into my problems. And for all her problems, she still has enough control over her actions that I'm not excusing any flat-out bad behavior, just understanding when she's temporarily overwhelmed by her emotions. As for why he keeps her around, I think it’s not just sexual attraction. Really, they genuinely have fun together. They are at the same level as far as maturity and intelligence. Watch their dates when they’re doing goofy stuff like the amusement park (not the concert section with her ex-one night stand) and the Old Timey dress-up. They are so clearly having a ton of fun, especially compared to just about every other situation on the entire show where he & the women are pretending to have fun. With P & V together, it’s completely different. They are on exactly the same page, unlike with the other women who are too good for him. I don’t mean they act like they’re too good for him, I mean they actually are, even if they won’t quite admit it to themselves. Or, if not too good, then at least too mature. VF's girly flirty behavior completely connects for him, however much it would drive most people up the wall. I bet his mother is cutesy the same way. (Ick.) Add in that Victoria is dramatic exactly like his mother, too, and they just fit. They’d never last as a couple because neither one has the social/communication skills or maturity, but they do fit together. Even the Sharleen criticism cited above (Sharleen wrote "... Victoria F relies heavily on a pattern of defensiveness, playing victim, fleeing the scene, and then apologizing weepily …”) describes Peter exactly as much as it describes Victoria. How many times all season has he run away, cancelled cocktail parties, walked away from dates when he’s overwhelmed, or felt attacked when his bad behavior is pointed out? I hope they end up together because that at least protects the rest of the world from relationships with either of them. Well, until she upsets him and he runs home to mommy, or he upsets her and she runs off and shuts down. I like Hannah Ann alright and she may be immature enough for him but I don’t think there’s anything there, and he is not a Real Man like Daddy. And if Madison wants someone with any actual religious convictions, Peter’s the wrong guy for her. He’ll play along with whatever, but he’s never going to be a faith leader for a family. He’s a goofy spoiled rich boy who likes airplanes and simple music and pretty girls and just happily floating through life, with occasional big drama and tears over nothing much at all.
  4. If Peter was honest about all the time he spends line dancing, then it's probably not surprising that he knew who Chase is. I've never heard of him (although I guess I saw him on Survivor), though.
  5. Unlike most here, I think Victoria F. is attractive to look at, but of course she is in no way at all attractive as a human being. There’s a chance that some of her ridiculous overwrought reaction to Chase BroCountry was because he was a one-night stand, and in Bachelor universe people are only ever supposed to hook up for looooove. Maybe the producers told her to make it a “relationship” because otherwise she wouldn’t be considered worthy of being on the show. In the real world I don’t know if anyone cares anymore about people casually hooking up, but it doesn’t fit the Bachelor Brand, and it’s possible Peter would have felt obligated to act judgmental about it. The amount of crying and apologizing fit the Bachelor standard for a one-night stand, but was way over the top for a former relationship. I also think Peter & Victoria F. are a decent couple – they’re both quite stupid, very childish, and drama queens who run away when things get difficult for their little brains. They deserve each other and they really did seem to have fun with the amusement park stuff. Those scenes had the most natural-looking joy of any on the show so far. She fits better with him than just about any of the other women (that’s not meant as a compliment to her or to Peter). The pageant queens are on a different social manipulation level from him and can play him like a fiddle, the strong ones and the smart ones are certainly already sick of him, so who’s left? Maybe the lawyer he met before the show is okay with having him around like a cute toy. Her work days could be filled with over-confident alpha male lawyers, so he could be an appealing break from that. McKenna seems sweet-ish and dumb-ish but she’s not a shiny enough object to grab his attention. I kind of think she’s pretty sometimes, eyebrows and all, but that’s probably because she looks like a real human being and not a mannikin or makeup model. (On a related note, I tried dipping into UK series Love Island recently, and I seriously found myself struggling to figure out what half the women actually look like – it’s all massive fake eyelashes, gigantic inflated perma-duckface lips, and layers of make-up.)
  6. Just another comment on Karishma's cut - nowadays stitches are rare even for pretty serious cuts. They just use a ton of medical glue (very similar to superglue). It's airtight and waterproof. Then a bandage over the top to prevent the glue from peeling/rubbing off prematurely, and you're good to go, even in the water. I got a small but deep cut on my shin a few months back. In the emergency room they covered it with a big patch of medical glue that was like 4x6 inches and then a relatively tight bandage (room for two or three fingers under it), and that was it. I don't know any details about Karishma's cut but it looked to be on the fleshy pad of the hand, so it may not have severed a vein or artery and really was "just a flesh wound" even if it was pretty deep. Folks on Survivor are always randomly appearing with bandages and other medical stuff but they only show the injury and/or medical team if they can fit it into the narrative for that episode. In Karishma's case, the reaction by the rest of the tribe fit into her continual complaining about being on the outs. If it had happened to someone else, they probably wouldn't have shown it.
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