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Zazoo

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  1. No question, Leroy Jethro Gibbs, NCIS.
  2. For what it's worth, when I was watching I didn't think the line about sexual fluidity was meant to describe Jackson's sexuality- I thought it was about whatever Will and Grace thought they were doing with Jackson. But then I thought it was weird that Jackson would think that Will would be cool with a threesome with Grace, since it has never been suggested that Will is bisexual- and it was Jackson's suggestion that Will and Grace "get started" that sent them running, so it wasn't like he didn't expect the experience to be fully interactive. This was a failure of writing, as usual, I think.
  3. Re the podcast, I don't think it's so weird that they did the funeral episode for Rosario, who was a much more important character than Bobbi (regardless of the status of the actresses). But I agree that this was a terrible episode, and that Grace is being written horribly- like the writers have no idea what she'd be like with a few more years on her. I didn't think it was so strange that Will would be the one to comfort Karen- he's the adult in the room and that's probably what she needed (it was basically a quiet moment and human contact from a friend-nothing deeply personal), but Jack and Grace didn't need to be so inept to make that happen.
  4. I'm with you on Team Judgead Is Lowkey Sexy.
  5. I'm pretty sure he went with the VP to make him better, at least partially. Even if I'm misremembering that part, I know that he backed him for president because he assumed Bartlet chose him to be the presumptive nominee. Party loyalty. Also, he begged Josh to run the campain.
  6. Apparently I can't leave this alone. So here's my own, partially responsive, list. PRESIDENT JED BARTLET: "Bartlet would certainly be impressed with Clinton's intelligence and experience, as well as her understated commitment to the tenets of her religious faith." - Absolutely. I don't see Bartlet even considering a Bernie endorsement. CONGRESSMAN MATT SANTOS: "Matt (as he likes to be called) would admire Bernie's approach of saying what he means and focusing on policy on the campaign trail." - Clinton is a policy wonk. She would focus on policy all the time if she could. It doesn't play well on the campaign trail, which is one of the reasons her staff is always trying to make her more likeable. It is also why she is always more popular when she's in office than when she's campaigning. SENATOR ARNOLD VINICK: "Arnie would have been the first Republican to defect from the party to denounce Trump and endorse Clinton." - Sure. C.J. CREGG: She worked for Emily's List before her Hollywood job pre-Bartlet. So, yeah. She'd be with her. LEO MCGARRY: I don't see why he wouldn't like Hillary. Public perception? His guy hid a degenerative disease, and his own alcoholism and drug addiction practically took down the administration. JOSH LYMAN: I don't think Josh had a particular affinity for an underdog. (Toby did.) He wanted to support a candidate that inspired him- it's why he left the Hoynes campaign for the Bartlet campaign. I think he would like Hillary for many of the same reasons he liked Bartlet. I didn't even necessarily think of him as a particularly righteous liberal. Rather, he's the guy who knows how to get things done. Something he has in common with Hillary. (Still amused at the idea of him being fired though.) AMY GARDNER: "Amy would have been on the Clinton train even before Hillary Clinton knew there was one. She would have seen this opportunity coming way back in the early 2000s and rallied the women's rights contingent." - Agreed. Not just because she's a woman, but because she's always fought for women's issues. (Except I'm pretty sure Hillary's been on the Hillary train for a very, very long time. She knew about the Hillary train, is what I'm saying.) SAM SEABORN: Like Josh, Sam chose to work on campaigns, or for administrations, because the candidate inspired him. I don't think Bernie is the same kind of candidate leader as Bartlet or Santos (who are actually quite different from each other). I think Sam would even want to write speeches for Hillary- he'd think he could help. TOBY ZIEGLER: "Toby would spend much of the election year drunk, railing against Trump and the terrifying ignorance of the "basket of deplorables." (In fact, he would have written that line for Clinton and had no regrets about it.) Every time a new Clinton scandal dropped, he could be found throwing his ball against his office window. The cost for window replacement in the West Wing in 2016 would be higher than the debt ceiling. Still, he would press on, helping with debate prep, dutifully casting his vote, and staring white-knuckled at the TV screen on election night in a complicated mix of fear and hope." - Yup, pretty solid. Except that the "dutifully" suggests that he wouldn't want to vote for her, and I think he would. CHARLIE YOUNG: I'm not so sure he would doubt Clinton's integrity. Regarding his position on school vouchers- I'm not sure he'll ever find a democratic candidate for president who'd be in favor of them. I don't even know if he would be as a policy matter- as opposed to as a kid from DC who would have liked to have been able to go to a better school. DONNA MOSS: Agreed, she'd be all in for Hillary. (Her younger self might have gone for Bernie at first. Maybe.) WILL BAILEY: "Will and Josh would have jumped on the Bernie bandwagon together, but Will would have bailed earlier to join the Clinton campaign, seeing the Sanders ship listing long before Josh did." - No way. Will stuck with the VP who literally no one wanted to be president because he is a party loyalist and he thought it was the best chance of keeping a Democrat in the White House. He thought Russell was an idiot. Hillary is clearly not an idiot, and was widely thought to be the best chance of keeping a Democrat in the White House. He would have been less likely to support Bernie than Josh or Sam would have been. KATE HARPER: "Still, a Trump presidency might make her more wary; in particular, his flippant approach to nuclearization could be a serious dealbreaker for a former CIA agent with a heart of gold." - This is an understatement. I have no idea what she would think about Clinton because I don't think we ever really got to know her politics. But there is no way she'd even consider voting for Trump, and I think she'd appreciate Clinton's experience on national security. PRESIDENT GLENALLEN WALKEN: I don't really know, but I don't think he'd support Trump, and I really don't think he'd be harassing Clinton supporters at a rally. He took running the country pretty seriously during the short time he had to do it. AINSLEY HAYES: I'm going to use Megyn Kelly as a barometer here and say that there is no way she would support Trump, ever. She worked for a democratic administration, and in defending the gang to her republican friends, she called them patriots and described them as righteous. And that was before she knew them. She wouldn't support Trump. MRS. LANDINGHAM (RIP): There are three things I know about her. She was fiercely loyal to Bartlet. She sought equal treatment for women at Bartlet's boarding school when he was a kid, and that was the beginning of her relationship with him. She lost two sons in war. I see no reason to assume that she'd be suspicious of Hillary. (Unless someone wanted to make a Benghazi argument, but I wouldn't buy it.) ABBEY BARTLET: "She and Clinton would, in fact, be BFFs." - Totally. I have always assumed that the whole storyline about her going by Mrs. instead of Dr. because she thought voters would like her better was based on Hillary as First Lady. They would "get" each other.
  7. Fair enough. I don't expect anyone to just believe me, and I'm not going to go looking for it to back up my assertion, but I'm quite sure I remember Brad Whitford stating in an interview that Josh Lyman's politics were Brad Whitford's politics.
  8. This was fun, but I disagree with so much. There's no way any of these characters support Trump. I think the only one who may have jumped on the Bernie train would have been Donna, and only earlier in the series. Bernie is no Bartlet or Santos. He just isn't the same kind of candidate. Also, Brad Whitford has pretty much said that Josh was based on him, and he was a huge Hillary fan even before the cast of TWW started stumping hard for her. And finally, there's no way Sam even looks at Gary Johnson. I was amused by the idea of Hillary ultimately firing Josh though.
  9. The image of the Capitol really affected me too. I actually got choked up. I'm really hoping that this ends up being a West Wing-ish political show.
  10. AUGH, OF COURSE. Forget Liv. Pretend I said Ravi instead. It also crossed my mind to choose House.
  11. Medical Examiner: Ravi (iZombie) Cops: Abbie Mills (Sleepy Hollow), Mary Shannon (In Plain Sight), Jody Mills and Donna Hanscum (Supernatural) Prosecutors: Jessica Pearson (Suits) and Caroline Julian (Bones) Shrink: Dani Santino (Necessary Roughness) Civilian Consultant: Lucifer Morningstar (Lucifer)
  12. I thought it was clear that Jamal and Michael are back together. Was I reading that wrong? I liked the other guy better (don't remember his name), but he probably wouldn't be as forgiving of Jamal's new attitude.
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