IndependentMind

At some point the show has to explain what happened to Root from the age of 10 when Hannah was kidnapped and murdered to her losing her mother (she stayed and took care of her mother until she died, and then how she became an assassin. There are gaps there. If we follow the timeline, Root is 3 years younger than Hannah meaning when Carter and Reese went to Texas, they thought Root was Hannah and they estimated her age to be 35 but as it turned out Root is Samantha Groves, whose mother died 10 years earlier, so that means she left Texas at 22 after her mother died. And I don't think she was killing already at that time. Something happened to her that she lost all human compassion or lost her trust in humanity. Obviously she has feelings because she took care of her mother. I don't think there was ever a father in the picture. I do think she was already a hacker even then in Texas and I think that is how she paid for her mother's medical bills. I think he and her mother were poor and came from the other side of the tracks based on how that Librarian detest attitude towards her. She was probably teased a lot as a child for being poor. Somehow, I think she was recruited mainly as a hacker but eventually, became a hacker by getting tangled in that web.

I think the Machine was aware that putting Reese in the police force is the only way to keep him from going all out trigger happy. Although Shaw is that way too, she is more likely to follow her cover than Reese ever will. Look what he did at the end, Martine barely missed them. But that stunt of Reese made Samaritan suspicious already.

GP said that in episode 5 will get some flashbacks about Root and the Machine during the time the team had to go their separate ways, and that Root and her relationship with the Machine isn;t as solid as it seems. Remember this is just the first episode of the season. Root will for sure get frustrated because her communication with the Machine is limited. Let's see how long she can keep this up.

I don't know if this is an indication that R & I will not be renewed. Because Sasha never works during her hiatus and she is this time. Hmmm. http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/09/24/sasha-alexander-shameless-season5/

This is what I have to say about Shaw and Root. Root knows everything about Shaw and she would not be flirting with Shaw if she wasn't interested or Shaw doesn't swing that way. And from the clip we saw for the season 4 premiere, there is something different about their relationship. Meaning that she is not irritated with Root or she wants to kill her anymore, it's just different. I think Root will be working closely with Harold more this season. And Root will probably be working on her own too.

I think it will. And I wonder if it has anything to do with Samaritan. I didn't it was as bad as 4C. Sorry, as much as I love JC, I was bored to death with that episode..

Yes I adore the Nerd Squad too. I read somewhere the actor who plays Jason has a new gig so I don't know if they will return. But I think Amy was asked about that and she hopes so and that they were fun.

Rizzoli & Isles is consistently in the top 3 of Cable shows so I don't know what the holdup is in renewing. But if it doesn't get renewed, big reason has to be the story lines this season where it [retty much revolved around Jane and Angela. I don't understand why Angela is always there when forst of all, she doesn't have a job anymore, she broke up with Cavanaugh and she is living still in Maura's place. I don't know why all of a suddent there was need to insert her in every situation. It sucks because two things ruined this season for me, 1) Angela 2) Angie turned Jane into herself because she is so keen on not making Jane a lesbian and she wanted to stop all the Rizzles. Sasha just plays along with it but you can tell Angie is irritated by it. I wish they were more like Amy Acker and Sarah Shahi. They both support the SHOOT ship and they have no problem if the show ever goes there. And I love both their answers during interviews and during panels. They have so much fun teasing.

It will be very interesting how JN and GP will end the series. Although they continue to say each of the member of the team has its expiration date.

I think in the end, we will find out that they are all just pawn for the Machine. And that all along, she is just using all of them and only to get rid of them in the end. In my mind that is how it will end. Finch will realized that and he will kill the Machine and only for the Machine to hire someone to kill him.

Just like in "Root Path" where Root had to decide whether to save Cyrus or get the hard drive. I have a feeling that one of the members of the team will be captured by Samaritan and this will force Finch to do something about fighting back. Yes, I have noticed that her tone has changed when she is talking to Reese. It's more playful. And just like you I am hoping for more Reese/Root working together. I just find them stunning together. hehe. I'm a SHOOT shipper but darn, that season 3 gag reel with Jim and Amy, and Jim going "I want you baby." had Roose shipping written all over it. LOL. I felt I have betrayed and abandoned my SHOOT ship.

If TNT renews it, there will be some changes. I could see them getting rid of Lorraine Bracco or limiting her episodes as they should have.

Part of that fear is because I think the Machine has evolved and grown in a way I don't think he even realized. And you never know, maybe in the end, he turns out to be the villain. That is the reason the Machine recruited Root because the Machine knows that Root will risk her life. If the Machine told her to go in there with 10 guys in the room with guns she would. Whereas, Reese and Shaw won't. The Machine also knows that Reese and Shaw would listen to whatever Finch tells them to do, Root won't. He admonishes Root for her recklessness but Root does the things he refuses to do. And it's probably why Shaw finds her fun. And loves working with her. LOL

You will find out in the season 3 finale of the consequence of not killing the Senator. All this is happening because of Finch. Finch who has been avoiding facing what his creation has caused. In season 4, Finch will be in dilema. He is again running away and pretty much surrendering to Samaritan while his team are telling him to fight. JN mentioned that Finch will struggle with this throughout the season.

According to Jan Nash, no word yet from TNT about season 6 pick up. Hmmm. What dos that tell you. TNT has always renewed this show early on. Definitely before summer finale. And now, no word still?

Her and Michael I would are in another level with their performances especially when they do their scenes together. People don't realize that Amy's depth as an actor. If given a chance like in the movie "Much Ado...", she deserved a nomination there. She was hands down the star of the film. And she truly carried that film. You should also see her other Indie film "Sironia". I loved Jim's scenes with Jessica and the whole Jessica arc. He was so human. I also thought he had such great chemistry with Annie Parisse. I love Kara Stanton. She was so scary. I also loved that arc with Kara and Reese. I think Taraji is a tremendous actress but I just don't think that POI showed that. She had her moments there but you can tell halfway through season 2, Carter wasn't really needed anymore in the direction the show was going.

It's a slow progression as it should be. Like I mentioned before there is something darker about her past than Hannah. I am just not sure if the show is willing to go there.

I won't either. The reason I stuck around was because of Root. I became a fan of the show initially because of Jim Caviezel. I have always loved that guy. Then I really liked Taraji and loved her character Carter. But when Root came on, I was intrigued with her character. She was evil but she was so darn good. And every time they brought her back, I always looked forward to watching the episodes with Root. I did not know who Amy Acker was. I had no clue. Then I saw her interviews on youtube and her attending panels, and she was so sweet and very charming. And also very shy. She seems like a genuinely nice person. I don't think they initially intended for the character Root to be expanded this way. But I guess after meeting and working with Amy, they started to see the potential and decided to expand her role more until they fully saw where they could take Root. Shaw was always meant to be a regular. The moment I saw her, I knew she would be joining the team. I don't think Amy was going to be a regular in the beginning unlike Sarah. But they needed to make sure that she is available to them and that is why even though she is only in handful of episodes last season, they made her a regular on the show. The show started out a procedural/genre. But I think JN and GP wanted to get away from the procedural type of show because there is too many out there already and also because I think it limits them. Unlike genre, they can go anywhere they want. It gives them that leeway to change their theme season to season. The reason why I think the show will end after season 6? JN always talked about how he already knows how it will end. Everything is planned out. Camryn Manheim and Amy Acker were amazing. Amy said they filmed that torture scene for 15 or 18 hours straight. I can't remember but she tweeted about it. I love how Amy's voice changes and her acting was just brilliant. Maybe. But I think she does realize that the Machine is teaching her something. And you could see her caring for the team. Not only because the Machine tells her so.

If Decima/Samaritan got to Root first before the Machine did, she will be their ally. But they didn't. The Machine helped her escape the psychiatric ward. She did whatever the Machine asks of her. She even endured the stapendectomy. In Alethea when she came and rescued Harold, Shaw and Arthur, her getting shot and captured by Control was all part of the plan so that Root can tell "Control" that she doesn't belong to her and that she is the one in Control. And that if you don't stop going after my agents, I will take what is most precious to you." Root is loyal to the Machine because it gave her purpose. It is her chance for redemption. If there is anybody who could go betray them it would be Shaw. Even Sarah said so.

I do think that there is more to Root's story that what we were given. It's more than what happened to Hannah. Root wasn't a bad person to begin with. Then something happened to Hannah but that was when she was 10 years old. She stayed in Texas to care for her mother, then left after her mother died never to be heard from again. I don't think the show will ever go there, but something dark and violent was done to her to turn her from a hacker to a hired killer. And to the point of having moral depravity. And I do agree that we will see Root die at the end of Season 5. I think we will get more and more of her back story leading up to her death at the end of season 5. In my opinion, the show will not get cancelled but I do see JN and GP ending the series after season 6.

It seems like a lot of fans have become very annoyed with Angela. http://www.tvguide.com/News/Ask-Matt-Fall-Pilots-Quest-Utopia-Outlander-Red-Band-Society-1086861.aspx

The whole theme of Season 4 is how the team will function without the Machine there all the time. What will they do? How will they cope? It is also about trust. And Finch accepting responsibility for his creation and its consequences. Because of Ssmaritan online now, he can no longer ignore the catastrophe looming if they don't do anything about it. Root has been telling him about it for most of season 3 but he refused to believe her.

On any show there will always be shippers. People want to see what they want to see. There is a bunch of Richer and also Careese. After Carter was killed a lot of them were hurt and vocal and angry. There are aslo Shoot ahippers. Season 4, we will see Finch and Root a lot because he is the creator of the Machine and the Machine talks directly to Root. Root and Finch scenes are always so fascinating to me. And Amy is at her best with her scenes with ME. There was and still a lot of anger towards Shahi/Shaw even before Carter was killed off. Her mere presence and lack thereof of Carter and Fusco towards season 2 irritated a bunch of fans. And it didn't help when Nina Tassler and JN said that "Carter was killed off to make way for Shaw's Catwoman." It doesnt have that when Sarah is asked to describe, she used "Catwoman".

This upcoming season will be different because for years, Finch has been deflecting and trying to ignore the consequences of his creation and actions. And with Samaritan and with Reese, Root and Shaw telling him you have got to fight back. We have to do something, JN has discussed that that is something Finch will grapple with throughout season 4. Why did Carter die? If Harold had let Root communicate with the Machine, could she have been saved? I think so. Root has been warning him about Samaritan and he continued to ignore it and look where they are now.The only time he let Root talk to the Machine was when John;s life was in jeopardy. If Root had not done what she had done, hide their identities from Samaritan they would all be dead. She said this in "Root Path". The moment Samaritan comes online, they are the first four to get killed. and still, Harold didn't do anything. Michael Emerson is an excellent actor and I cannot wait to see what the writers have in store for him as the conflicted Harold Finch. And I love that there seems to bea lot of Root/Finch scenes. I have said this before, if you cannot accept the changes the show has made, you will not appreciate what the show is today. You either go with the slow and enjoy the show, or just stop watching it because complaining about it isn't going to change anything.

But if you have Carter, Root and Shaw, that is too many females for CBS. lol