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I did a double take when she said but I guess in her head, he's her fiance already. The way she treated those guys on both of the group dates was beyond rude.

That group date had Ben, Bennett, Brendan, Dr. Joe, Zac, Ivan, Demar and even Kenny and his tats and she couldn't give one of them a rose cause they made fun of her pretend fiance!??! Clare better stay off social media for awhile as she's getting blasted right now.

OMG, the producers are giving her such a bitch edit. They really must hate her!

Don't forget that next week's episode is on Thursday night. And poor naive Jordan C, thinking that it would be a good night cause Dale wasn't there.

Guess Bennett won't be getting the group date rose after he just savaged ole Dale

Thank you producers for Jordan C and Bennett in a Tux. Brendan too!

This dumping of Zach by Clare is going to work out wonders for him. With all the Clare hate online tonight, his DMs are going to be off the charts. Can't decide who I like better in glasses--Jordan C or Bennett

This dumping of Zach by Clare is going to work out wonders for him. With all the Clare hate online tonight, his DMs are going to be of the charts. Can't decide who I like better in glasses--Jordan C or Bennett

The Zac not on the date really does look like Nick Viall if you squint at your TV.

I wish we could just fast forward though this pointless date with some guy who I don't even remember and get to Bennett and et al roasting Dale.

Dale, unlike other front runners in the past is not here to make friends. That does up the drama. Oooh, Bennett and his glasses go after Dale. Can't wait for that!

Clare is coming off as a lovesick teenager and Dale is coming off as a smug, creepy wannabe model, IMHO.

Wow, Clare was with Dale for 40 mins. That is totally shitty thing for her to do.

I feel bad for these guys. I know they signed up for this on their own free will but they have been getting a long thin stick stuck up their nose and Clare won't even bother herself to get to know them!? Even Deanna faked it with the non-Graham crowd better than this.

They choose Deanna to give advice??! Why Deanna as she went all in on Graham, who ran for the freedom at final 4 and got stuck with the no job snowboarder Jesse cause she didn't want to end up alone.

There's no Devon in the cast. Do you mean Demar, the wanna be DJ?

I've never seen most of these guys before. Hopefully with Yosef's story line kaput we can meet some of the others now.

They might end up like Kaitlyn's bros. They all became really close when it was obvious she was all in with Shawn with a side of Nick. Tanner, Jared, the Bens, Cupcake, etc are all close still.

I think there have been more commercials than actual content so far tonight. I should really start watching on demand but then I'd miss this thread. Awwww, Bennett! So cute too in his glasses.

Dale to the rescue!!

There better be Paradise in 2021 as I need to see Yosef again on my TeeVee acting all important and making an ass of himself.

I've already had enough of Clare & Dale so I guess I am a wrong reason watcher and not here for a 'love story" Jordan C and his glasses-too cute

So I didn't have anything else to do last night so I caught Reality Steve's Instagram live chat with Ashley Spivey. As he droned on about how people need to stop complaining about Clare and Dale being front center with their love story, he mentioned that we would probably not be getting a love story with Tayshia. I guess we will see what that ends up being. He could be right or he could be totally wrong.

Rachel Lindsey said on The Ringer's Bachelor Party Podcast after the premiere that Clare really, really, really, really delved into Dale's social media from March to July. And she really, really, really, really liked what she saw. 99.9% of Dale's Instagram is probably all puppies, working with special Olympics, his family, blah, blah, blah so its not a surprise that Clare liked what she saw as anyone out there trying to garner a following is going to have a very "clean" social media presence. So add in the fact that he's tall and an ex football player, Clare has created this PERFECT guy in her mind. Time will tell just how perfect he really is.

In Reality Steve's new blog, he says that Abigail received Matt's first impression rose. And she was born deaf and has cochlear implants, not hearing aids. So it sounds like she's going to make a positive impression and could end up being a fan favorite. Wouldn't be surprised if she's in the running for Bachelorette, if she and Matt don't end up together.