I think at the time this was happening that Debra was about 59, which makes the baby voice and giggling even that much worse. The vocal fry with the daughters is bad but, I just can't with a woman that age doing the little girly giggles.
I do have to give her props tho, for putting herself out there with this. She had to know she would come out looking like a desperate, self absorbed nitwit.
I don't know. I thought he had slept with the leader. Didn't he say something like "he didn't usually like having sex with guys."